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shingojira-chan said:
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Everybody has the right to say his opinion.
You can just say i did not like it.
But you do not have the right to call it trash.

Hmmm isn't trash an opinion as well ?

My point is everybody has the right to say his opinions with respect to others.
Just tell i did not like it because of this reasons but calling something that a lot of people put their day and night and overworked themselves to make it, trash ,is nothing but irrespective
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The sound director recomends the ost but at the end it's up to hayashi and epsiode director to approve


And based off the interview they respect/are scared of him lol so whatever he says they will probably nod their head and approve anyways.


apparently the director either hayashi or ep director has the final say on the music used
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mab03 said:
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Hmmm isn't trash an opinion as well ?

My point is everybody has the right to say his opinions with respect to others.
Just tell i did not like it because of this reasons but calling something that a lot of people put their day and night and overworked themselves to make it trash ,is nothing but irrespective

Fair enough but still even if they worked so much , if the end product isn't good it doesn't really matter .


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Jan 10, 2021 8:46 AM
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Please can someone tell me will eren titan be in cgi ???
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Same thoughts here as well. I wouldn't prefer YOUSEEBIGGIRL at this scene. Im preferibg to hear the New ost that Samuelkim Made a cover of it. That would be way better ost than this one. What im dislik8ng is that ost is already assosiated with Levi VS Zeke fight and its already for that iconic moment. Why the sound director didn't put New ost to make New iconic moment rather than just put this ost all over again?. I loves the episode very much dont get me all wrong, but didn't like the final ost.


Oh that new ost, I think it’s gonna used for ch 120+ because of how suspenseful it is. And I didnt even know it was Levi vs Zeke ost :”D and yeah i can agree with you that it might be better to use new ost though i wont blame the sound director since it’s pretty hard to fit an intense ost into a scene started as slow-motion then immediately became action. Still overall i think it doesn’t completely destroy the hype.


Yeah man. It was Ok, but if they use the leaked ost, the hype would be 10 times bigger than this one.
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No one hates mappa, but WIT made the BIG moments so much better. But I don't speak for all human kind, so don't take my word
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I remember Ajay saying that they would use the original attack on titan track. He was always right with his leaks so wth happened?
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shingojira-chan said:
Sigh...
The preview isn't that good either . As expected , transformation of the Warhammer looked better in the PV . Eren's titan as well .
Wow I guess you guys can't handle criticism .


Rewatched the preview. You're right, they aren't of the same quality. The pain continues.
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I remember Ajay saying that they would use the original attack on titan track. He was always right with his leaks so wth happened?


They did. They used a re-arrangement of XL-TT and then they used 2Volt for the climax.
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tirthasg said:
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Sigh...
The preview isn't that good either . As expected , transformation of the Warhammer looked better in the PV . Eren's titan as well .
Wow I guess you guys can't handle criticism .


Rewatched the preview. You're right, they aren't of the same quality. The pain continues.

I had high expectations after the leaked image of the attack titan . Well this is just one scene . How are they going to handle the fight scenes in the next episodes ? Sad .
No , I am not a Mappa hater . Just saying ....


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Please can someone tell me will eren titan be in cgi ???


In the preview of ep6 both eren and wht is 2D. But they might change between 2d and 3d from scene to scene
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No one hates mappa, but WIT made the BIG moments so much better. But I don't speak for all human kind, so don't take my word


This! WIT did it better. All we can do right now is to hope that MAPPA picks up their game ASAP.
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as said by Ajay there was lot of still frames even the final scene got lots of it and it has no animation or sakuga there damn but ye still good enough
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Episode was fucking great but yeah, I always expected something more epic for the the transformation moment, but with levi vs beast titan it was the same, I guess the moment will grow on people with time.

Also, man, Eren is scarier than in the manga.
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xenosys said:
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I remember Ajay saying that they would use the original attack on titan track. He was always right with his leaks so wth happened?


They did. They used a re-arrangement of XL-TT and then they used 2Volt for the climax.


I remember him saying they would use it at the end and he also mentioned it would play the beat near 1:08 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yYYLbii-izA but maybe i'm don't remember correctly
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shingojira-chan said:
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Rewatched the preview. You're right, they aren't of the same quality. The pain continues.

I had high expectations after the leaked image of the attack titan . Well this is just one scene . How are they going to handle the fight scenes in the next episodes ? Sad .
No , I am not a Mappa hater . Just saying ....


Not a hater myself. But it's been depressing to watch this mess week after week. Sigh!
Jan 10, 2021 9:05 AM
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What a great episode, easy 10/10.
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YEAHHH GO EREN!!!



It's good that they did not censor anything unlike the past 3 seasons.
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Based off the discussion going on you would think they rating for this episode is bad, but when looking at it you realize the majority loved this episode.

Goes to show you how the vocal minority can shout louder than the majority to make it seems like everyone didn't like this episode.
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tirthasg said:
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No one hates mappa, but WIT made the BIG moments so much better. But I don't speak for all human kind, so don't take my word


This! WIT did it better. All we can do right now is to hope that MAPPA picks up their game ASAP.


The next 3 episodes are gonna be lit af whether Mappa resolves all their issues or not tbh. The story is just too good. (All thanks to Isayama sensei ofcourse lol)
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keragamming said:
Based off the discussion going on you would think they rating for this episode is bad, but when looking at it you realize the majority loved this episode.

Goes to show you how the vocal minority can shout louder than the majority to make it seems like everyone didn't like this episode.


Lol let them cope and seethe, Mappas doing a great job even with the shite schedule they were given, kudos to the team!
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This episode was PHENOMENAL
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They did. They used a re-arrangement of XL-TT and then they used 2Volt for the climax.


I remember him saying they would use it at the end and he also mentioned it would play the beat near 1:08 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yYYLbii-izA but maybe i'm don't remember correctly


Yep, it took the choir element of XL-TT, re-arranged some of the sounds, and slowed it down to match the tone and pace of the episode. It played until about 18 minutes into the episode, so it wasn't right at the end, but it was approaching the end of the episode.

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keragamming said:
Based off the discussion going on you would think they rating for this episode is bad, but when looking at it you realize the majority loved this episode.

Goes to show you how the vocal minority can shout louder than the majority to make it seems like everyone didn't like this episode.


You'd think it was poorly received, but most people seem to have loved it so far. Don't get me wrong, I have a couple of nit picks, so I'm not going to pretend it was perfectly done, but they were insignificant in the grand scheme of things.

I doubt most of these that have seen the raw episode were anime-only's either, so they knew what to expect.
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shingojira-chan said:
mab03 said:

My point is everybody has the right to say his opinions with respect to others.
Just tell i did not like it because of this reasons but calling something that a lot of people put their day and night and overworked themselves to make it trash ,is nothing but irrespective

Fair enough but still even if they worked so much , if the end product isn't good it doesn't really matter .

Yes,a bad result that is made by a lot effort doesn't mean we should praise the creators or appreciate them or not criticize them,but it does't mean that we should be irrespective too.words can be the harmful.it's been a lot of times i've seen people saying things like"you fucked up this season" "your work is trash" "why did you ruin aot" "final season is shit" and ...in staff personal account page on twitter and weibo.put yourself in staff's place.you worked hard and put a lot of effort in your work and then some people insult you every day.it isn't intersting,is it?
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tirthasg said:
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What animation do you want? It's a TALKING episode.
Understandable, but I disagree. I was pleasantly surprised how well it worked.


Having a dialogue centric episode doesn't imply that you mess up character models, and use unimpactful OST at key moments of the story. And The last scene was rubbish. Did you even watch the episode? You seem to been blindly fanboying with those responses you're coming up with.
Sorry I'm not delusional enough to think moving manga panels look better. The lack of epic OST is what made the scene pop out. I am also sorry for being able to enjoy something you are not. It must suck feeling how you feel.
Yes it sounds good too, but my god, how desperate must people be to cope so hard?
keragamming said:
Based off the discussion going on you would think they rating for this episode is bad, but when looking at it you realize the majority loved this episode.

Goes to show you how the vocal minority can shout louder than the majority to make it seems like everyone didn't like this episode.
People who liked the episode liked it and packed their bags. Those who didn't suck on their thumbs here editing music they want over what we got. I am actually laughing.
Jan 10, 2021 9:14 AM
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I_Am_Freeballing said:
tirthasg said:


Having a dialogue centric episode doesn't imply that you mess up character models, and use unimpactful OST at key moments of the story. And The last scene was rubbish. Did you even watch the episode? You seem to been blindly fanboying with those responses you're coming up with.
Sorry I'm not delusional enough to think moving manga panels look better. The lack of epic OST is what made the scene pop out. I am also sorry for being able to enjoy something you are not. It must suck feeling how you feel.
Yes it sounds good too, but my god, how desperate must people be to cope so hard?
keragamming said:
Based off the discussion going on you would think they rating for this episode is bad, but when looking at it you realize the majority loved this episode.

Goes to show you how the vocal minority can shout louder than the majority to make it seems like everyone didn't like this episode.
People who liked the episode liked it and packed their bags. Those who didn't suck on their thumbs here editing music they want over what we got. I am actually laughing.
I_Am_Freeballing said:
tirthasg said:


Having a dialogue centric episode doesn't imply that you mess up character models, and use unimpactful OST at key moments of the story. And The last scene was rubbish. Did you even watch the episode? You seem to been blindly fanboying with those responses you're coming up with.
Sorry I'm not delusional enough to think moving manga panels look better. The lack of epic OST is what made the scene pop out. I am also sorry for being able to enjoy something you are not. It must suck feeling how you feel.
Yes it sounds good too, but my god, how desperate must people be to cope so hard?
keragamming said:
Based off the discussion going on you would think they rating for this episode is bad, but when looking at it you realize the majority loved this episode.

Goes to show you how the vocal minority can shout louder than the majority to make it seems like everyone didn't like this episode.
People who liked the episode liked it and packed their bags. Those who didn't suck on their thumbs here editing music they want over what we got. I am actually laughing.
I_Am_Freeballing said:
tirthasg said:


Having a dialogue centric episode doesn't imply that you mess up character models, and use unimpactful OST at key moments of the story. And The last scene was rubbish. Did you even watch the episode? You seem to been blindly fanboying with those responses you're coming up with.
Sorry I'm not delusional enough to think moving manga panels look better. The lack of epic OST is what made the scene pop out. I am also sorry for being able to enjoy something you are not. It must suck feeling how you feel.
Yes it sounds good too, but my god, how desperate must people be to cope so hard?
keragamming said:
Based off the discussion going on you would think they rating for this episode is bad, but when looking at it you realize the majority loved this episode.

Goes to show you how the vocal minority can shout louder than the majority to make it seems like everyone didn't like this episode.
People who liked the episode liked it and packed their bags. Those who didn't suck on their thumbs here editing music they want over what we got. I am actually laughing.

LMFAOO literally this right here^^
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Surprisingly , me reading the manga with an OST of my own choice felt much more impactful.
There is a chance this quality can deteriorate as well . Gonna keep my expectations low so that I can enjoy episodes more . This season probably shouldn't have released this soon . I wish they had more time .


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keragamming said:
Based off the discussion going on you would think they rating for this episode is bad, but when looking at it you realize the majority loved this episode.

Goes to show you how the vocal minority can shout louder than the majority to make it seems like everyone didn't like this episode.
Yeah, like the votes speak for themselves
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shingojira-chan said:
Surprisingly , me reading the manga with an OST of my own choice felt much more impactful.
There is a chance this quality can deteriorate as well . Gonna keep my expectations low so that I can enjoy episodes more . This season probably shouldn't have released this soon . I wish they had more time .
Then just stick to the manga don't watch the anime cause anime won't always use the ost you want.
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mab03 said:
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Fair enough but still even if they worked so much , if the end product isn't good it doesn't really matter .

Yes,a bad result that is made by a lot effort doesn't mean we should praise the creators or appreciate them or not criticize them,but it does't mean that we should be irrespective too.words can be the harmful.it's been a lot of times i've seen people saying things like"you fucked up this season" "your work is trash" "why did you ruin aot" "final season is shit" and ...in staff personal account page on twitter and weibo.put yourself in staff's place.you worked hard and put a lot of effort in your work and then some people insult you every day.it isn't intersting,is it?
I agree
Criticizing someone is different from trash talking them


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For music choice I can’t say I’m not disappointed, but I thought everything else was great. While I know some people thought YSBG wouldn’t have fit in the scene, I think it would’ve fit more than the Zeke vs Levi ost. I had hoped they used that one track that played during the livestream (Samuel Kim made a cover on YT) or at least something more dramatic and hype after all the tension. Also can someone explain the conditions needed for cutting out the op/Ed because I feel it could’ve helped the episode. Overall 8/10
Jan 10, 2021 9:25 AM
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Lmaoooooo. God Mappa sucks ass. Imagine having a better One Piece episode than this trash. Way to ruin an internet breaker.
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At this point, nothing will satisfy those that are already iffy about this season. Even if an episode is near perfect, they'll nitpick about the one thing that wasn't completely perfect and will only focus on that and disregard anything the episode did right. People are acting like as if every second of Wit's adaptation was perfection or something.

Anyways, this episode was really good. It managed to capture the same intensity I felt when I read these chapters for the first time. Voice acting was on-point, especially Eren and Reiner's. Eren's voice was apathetically sympathetic (or sympathetically apathetic, lol). This contradicting tone makes it hard to understand the emotion he's feeling and I like that. Reiner sounded like he was on the verge of a mental breakdown, so that's definitely on-point lol.

The OST at the end was definitely something I wasn't expecting. But, I don't hate it. I actually think it fits the feeling of "keep moving forward" quite well, as the drums give it marching music vibes.
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shingojira-chan said:
Surprisingly , me reading the manga with an OST of my own choice felt much more impactful.
There is a chance this quality can deteriorate as well . Gonna keep my expectations low so that I can enjoy episodes more . This season probably shouldn't have released this soon . I wish they had more time .


Expect this to go downhill soon. But people with poor taste will keep rating it 10/10 and buy all the Blurays and merchandise when they're released. Who said low quality doesn't sell? Ask the fanboys, they happily buy everything that's shoved down their throat.
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While I gave previous episodes 4 I gave this one a 3 because of ending lack of music fucking destroyed the scene it felt empty
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tirthasg said:


Having a dialogue centric episode doesn't imply that you mess up character models, and use unimpactful OST at key moments of the story. And The last scene was rubbish. Did you even watch the episode? You seem to been blindly fanboying with those responses you're coming up with.
Sorry I'm not delusional enough to think moving manga panels look better. The lack of epic OST is what made the scene pop out. I am also sorry for being able to enjoy something you are not. It must suck feeling how you feel.
Yes it sounds good too, but my god, how desperate must people be to cope so hard?
keragamming said:
Based off the discussion going on you would think they rating for this episode is bad, but when looking at it you realize the majority loved this episode.

Goes to show you how the vocal minority can shout louder than the majority to make it seems like everyone didn't like this episode.
People who liked the episode liked it and packed their bags. Those who didn't suck on their thumbs here editing music they want over what we got. I am actually laughing.


Oh my, I envy your cognitive abilities. Wish I could rent it.
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At this point, nothing will satisfy those that are already iffy about this season. Even if an episode is near perfect, they'll nitpick about the one thing that wasn't completely perfect and will only focus on that and disregard anything the episode did right. People are acting like as if every second of Wit's adaptation was perfection or something.



Nostalgia's a helluva drug. They take the great things WiT did and extrapolate that out into the entirety of the 3 seasons they produced, and think it was faultless.

Ironically, they're doing the exact opposite with MAPPA because they aren't WiT.
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mab03 said:
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So much better than the trash we had to watch!

Everybody has the right to say his opinion.
You can just say i did not like it.
But you do not have the right to call it trash.

I mean... They do have the right to call it trash, though. Even if it's disrespectful to the artists who worked on it, and you disagree with them.

Besides, they still got paid for it, and something with this big of a following is bound to have haters.

Also, source material readers in general should really stop hyping the shit out of everything. At least the expectations would be fair, and the disappointment would be lessened.
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mab03 said:

Everybody has the right to say his opinion.
You can just say i did not like it.
But you do not have the right to call it trash.

I mean... They do have the right to call it trash, though. Even if it's disrespectful to the artists who worked on it, and you disagree with them.

Besides, they still got paid for it, and something with this big of a following is bound to have haters.

Also, source material readers in general should really stop hyping the shit out of everything. At least the expectations would be fair, and the disappointment would be lessened.


almost everyone in this thread at this moment are manga readers that watched a raw.

we will see the supposed damage of the overhyping tomorrow when anime onlies see the episode.
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Lmaoooooo. God Mappa sucks ass. Imagine having a better One Piece episode than this trash. Way to ruin an internet breaker.


To be honest the latest One piece episode was directed by arguably the best director of Toei so that is a pretty high bar and i wouldn't do a comparison.
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I mean... They do have the right to call it trash, though. Even if it's disrespectful to the artists who worked on it, and you disagree with them.

Besides, they still got paid for it, and something with this big of a following is bound to have haters.

Also, source material readers in general should really stop hyping the shit out of everything. At least the expectations would be fair, and the disappointment would be lessened.


almost everyone at this moment are manga readers that watched a raw.

we will see the supposed damage of the overhyping tomorrow when anime onlies see the episode.


Most anime only watchers have not watch fan made animation, or reading the manga while selecting a ost they like, hence they get used to this ost and imagine it being used, nor they watch manga motion panel on youtube.

So I expect most anime only to be blown away by this, as they have none of those things to cloud their opinion.
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@Sirtristram and @mirionbiron were right all along, mappa’s AOT will never be a masterpiece like previous seasons, just look at how they messed up such a hype scene.
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I mean... They do have the right to call it trash, though. Even if it's disrespectful to the artists who worked on it, and you disagree with them.

Besides, they still got paid for it, and something with this big of a following is bound to have haters.

Also, source material readers in general should really stop hyping the shit out of everything. At least the expectations would be fair, and the disappointment would be lessened.


almost everyone at this moment are manga readers that watched a raw.

we will see the supposed damage of the overhyping tomorrow when anime onlies see the episode.
Obviously , anime onlies will enjoy it much more than manga readers , since animation is just a part of what they look forward to . The entire reason you and everyone in this thread are here are because of the voice acting and animation that would be there . I wish I was an anime only rn .


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Eren looking at ocean had more impact than this. Change my mind
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@Sirtristram and @mirionbiron were right all along, mappa’s AOT will never be a masterpiece like previous seasons, just look at how they messed up such a hype scene.


I'm waiting for them to post, meanwhile i'm grabbing my popcorn.
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Eren looking at ocean had more impact than this. Change my mind


Water is wet.

Anyways S3P2 despite the issues had the perfect adaptation for the most important moments.
Also the buildup to the finale was a huge factor in the hype

This episode was still a great though. I personally don't dig MAPPA's art but criticisms outside of my tastes would for this episode would be Eren's model still kinda being inconsistent. OST was good enough.

Will re-evaluate after subs are out though.
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I mean, isn’t the sound director the same as the past seasons?

It’s not about wit or mappa then, the dude just missed the mark this time.
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While 2Volt wasn't necessarily the most fitting one for the last scene, it still was far from bad. Didn't Levi vs Beast Titan get the same OST too? And even then the anime onlies still loved it to death. Other than that, VERY GREAT EPISODE, the directing, the tension, the OST overall ( I loved the new theme that had Attack on Titan(the OST)'s melody. But if I had to praise a part about it the most, then it' s the voice acting, especially Reiner, his breakdown was way better portrayed than I ever imagined
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While 2Volt wasn't necessarily the most fitting one for the last scene, it still was far from bad. Didn't Levi vs Beast Titan get the same OST too? And even then the anime onlies still loved it to death. Other than that, VERY GREAT EPISODE, the directing, the tension, the OST overall ( I loved the new theme that had Attack on Titan(the OST)'s melody. But if I had to praise a part about it the most, then it' s the voice acting, especially Reiner, his breakdown was way better portrayed than I ever imagined
the funny thing is, people complained back then about 2volt being unsuitable for levi vs beast titan fight lol
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