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May 20, 2020 1:10 PM
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I like Tower of God, I really do, but I'm having a bit of trouble keeping up with the whole "plans within schemes within strategies" route the show is taking. Khun deceives a lot of people in this episode, both the test administrator and his teammates, and while he does it for a friend, I wasn't convinced by the mental gymnastics the show did in order to avoid framing his actions as a betrayal.


That's because it was explained awfully, like most things in the anime. Basically, only a limited number can pass for each position. So, if team A got to the exit, everyone in the team would get 100k points, including wave controllers. That means, it would decrease the chance of Bam passing. Since they didn't get to the exit, they will be scored per their performance, and the wave controllers didn't really do much. He did everything he could to ensure his true team passed, since Lauroe and Shibisu already had enough points to pass.
your comment didn't really have any connection with the one you quoted..
May 20, 2020 1:11 PM
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Despite a lot of the action, comedy, and suspense being underwhelming, I did like Khun's betrayal at the end, pretty solid twist. Bam shows a little more personality, not much but still welcomed. Some character development from the side characters a little, but still pretty average tier.
Didn't dislike this episode, found it OK. Still underwhelming though.


I completly agree. The show should have me more invested 8 episodes in, but I feel like it constantly falls short of my expectations. Kinda weird since I am not familiar with the source material.

Biggest issue being that there is no greater theme to the show (at least for now).
-climbing the tower is the thing everybody does on the side
-Bam does not progress the 'plot' as a protagonist
-the princesses of Jahad are mere participants; tower politics are not the point either
-Side characters could be something to be invested in, but the show tells me not to
-Rachel is here but on the sideline, so it is not romance either

So what's the point? I will keep watching and wait for something to happen but this is sooo far off organic storytelling.

No its not a romance and i think from my point of view as someone who read the webtoon and the creator also said it that rachel is the protagoniste of the story she is the one driving the plot forward bam is a reactor he is just following her he will grow in the futur but it will take time
May 20, 2020 1:12 PM

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I agree with what most of the manhwa readers said about the dialogue and such. I also think that with all the worldbuilding and complicated test rules, the original just has the better format because you can take your time to digest everything.

If any of the anime watchers are interested in the positions and how many will pass, here is the manhwa picture. "Best Seed" means that they where the best in one of the previous tests if I remember correctly.
May 20, 2020 1:18 PM

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How beautiful is the Opening? Anyway Khun is undoubtedly the most interesting character of these first 8 episodes, the classic genius, strategist who never tires, you never know what he can do or think.

I don't understand just one thing: why does Rak who obtained the maximum score in his target test not participate, while the others, although sure to pass the test for their score, must participate?

The spear bearers had a special test where if you hit the target which was placed far away, you get to pass the whole position test.
I remember Rak's spear test, so only his category has this kind of test? I thought that each category had a final test.
May 20, 2020 1:36 PM

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God damn the animation was HORRIBLE. Again a mediocre at best episode. 5/10
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That's because it was explained awfully, like most things in the anime. Basically, only a limited number can pass for each position. So, if team A got to the exit, everyone in the team would get 100k points, including wave controllers. That means, it would decrease the chance of Bam passing. Since they didn't get to the exit, they will be scored per their performance, and the wave controllers didn't really do much. He did everything he could to ensure his true team passed, since Lauroe and Shibisu already had enough points to pass.
your comment didn't really have any connection with the one you quoted..


How? HeroVladimir93 said he isn't convinced by the way the anime tried to frame Khun's actions as not being betrayal, and I explained that he needed to do that to enable his real team to pass. In other words, it is betrayal of team assigned for the test, to enable the team he chose for himself to pass.
May 20, 2020 1:51 PM

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Aesthetically pleasing, as always
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May 20, 2020 1:53 PM
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Pretty confusing episode. I don't understand the rules of the game as usual. They really need to explain them more clearly. They get 100,000 points split between the members of the team if their "it" reaches the goal, but how many are needed to pass? Why are some people already guaranteed to pass? I guess Yoru and Endorsi don't have enough points from previous tests because they spent them all on food/healing injuries? Also not sure why Team A winning would have been bad for Team B, aren't their tests done independently?
bro i was waiting for someone to ask these.
I thought i am the only one who didn't understood
May 20, 2020 1:54 PM

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Animation was pretty meh this episode and I didn't like some changes the made from the source.
The flashback of Serena's past was pretty good though.
I hope next episode will have better quality.
May 20, 2020 2:28 PM
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Thanks to all who helped answer my question. The rules definitely are more lucid to me now.
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May 20, 2020 2:34 PM

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Am I the only one who doesn't quite follow wtf is going on with the rules and purpose of this game? The teams don't even act as teams. This is pretty weird and confusing.
May 20, 2020 2:37 PM
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I liked how they showed Serena’s past and khuns plan. Wish the animation was better though
May 20, 2020 2:38 PM
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Damn I don’t care too much about the changes , as a webtoon reader I can understand that I can be difficult to translate the WEBTOON medium to the anime one but why would they skip essential world building like shinsoo bang and so on.
One of the thing I liked when I first read was the uniqueness of the item but they are skipping it all but they rather add stupid chocolates bar jokes.

Also what is their problem with the poor animation, we are in 2020 and a they can’t even give us a proper animation for a show like this with 2 years of preparation. One of the worst fights scenes I have seen in a long time.
May 20, 2020 2:39 PM

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Twas pretty good, I honestly thought they would win. Was a bit excited too lol. But this unexpected betrayal was refreshing as well.

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May 20, 2020 2:39 PM

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At first I also thought Khun had betrayed his team too but as Yu Han Sung said; Team A isn't his team! His loyalty lies with his original team and the allies his made so far.

I'm super impressed with how he managed to work out a strategy that would allow his allies on Team A to pass but also give his allies on Team B a chance to pass too and all without making anyone on Team A suspicious!

Hoh is definitely gonna be a problem; there's something really off about him. What he said to that girl about killing or doing whatever you need to climb the tower being all 'no hard feelings' was so cold and unemotional...
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Awesome. Do not go underestimating the blue haired turtle! Interesting turn at the end with the princess. I wonder what her game is!
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May 20, 2020 3:01 PM
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Am I the only one who doesn't quite follow wtf is going on with the rules and purpose of this game? The teams don't even act as teams. This is pretty weird and confusing.


I feel the same way. The actions and reactions of the players seem random and without consequence sometimes. I suppose it's an adaptation thing. It must be much expanded upon in more detail, and as a result make much more sense in the source material.
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May 20, 2020 3:35 PM

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Khun's "betrayal" was quite interesting. He's a genius! Leave it to the Rankers to figure out what Khun's real intentions are and not gonna lie, eventho he betrayed most of his team, his real team, which leads back to the scouts assignment wasn't betrayed at all. Good thinking from Khun, but that cliffhanger definitely seems like it's gonna mess around in Khun's strategy, unless he calculated that as well into his plan...

Overall it was a good episode!
May 20, 2020 3:42 PM

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I enjoyed this episode a lot overall even though the animation wasn't the best from what we've seen from the Tower of God so far it was still ok.

I liked Khun's master plan, that was an interesting strategy but they changed the one part where Khun duplicates his lighthouse and they don't explain what a lighthouse is probably because they didn't have the time to fit it into this episode so they can have the main focus on the overall plot of the story. Khun is best boi as usual though.

Khun's betrayal and the twists and turns Khun came up with were really well done by him. After that, we get Bam's team with best girl Androssi where she already causing more betrayal lol. Can't wait to see what happens with all of that which might all fit into episode 9 but we will have to wait and see.

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May 20, 2020 3:51 PM

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Aside from the culling in the first test which was btw very retarded the show so far has been very wholesome and lighthearted. However it doesn't flow welll with certain scenes, like in the flashback where the thief girl's friends get brutally murdered.
3/5
May 20, 2020 3:53 PM
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It was a much better episode than 7. I don’t have much to say besides it being solid. Only thing was that the animation is meh at times. Also had an underwhelming drop
May 20, 2020 3:58 PM
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Episode is uninteresting as expected. Bam is still flat with no character development, he's still simping for Rachel. Only Khun is the one carrying the show. Can't wait to see Bam fall into despair and becomes a terrorist.
May 20, 2020 5:01 PM

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I enjoyed this episode a lot overall even though the animation wasn't the best from what we've seen from the Tower of God so far it was still ok.

I liked Khun's master plan, that was an interesting strategy but they changed the one part where Khun duplicates his lighthouse and they don't explain what a lighthouse is probably because they didn't have the time to fit it into this episode so they can have the main focus on the overall plot of the story. Khun is best boi as usual though.

Khun's betrayal and the twists and turns Khun came up with were really well done by him. After that, we get Bam's team with best girl Androssi where she already causing more betrayal lol. Can't wait to see what happens with all of that which might all fit into episode 9 but we will have to wait and see.


He can just control more then one lighthouse. I don't know WTF that line was about.
May 20, 2020 5:18 PM

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Last episode, Khun said Bam would probably fail if Team A won, and now this episode Leroro said "Khun, Anaak, Shibisu, and Lauroe are currently guaranteed to pass."

This episode confused me a bit.
I feel like I missed something, but did they already display the ranking of points for the examinees and who's likely who pass?
I understand that Khun lost on purpose so that his 10 'friends' would pass, but I thought they would at least explain the numbers/rankings so we have a better idea.
May 20, 2020 5:25 PM

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I guess I'm one of the few that doesn't see why Shibisu is supposed to be one of the guaranteed passes. He's like one of the weakest there.

Also, I guess people from either team can pass? Why wasn't that explained earlier?

Fine episode. It's definitely better than last episode.

Endorsi's still my favorite character.

Edit: Oh I forgot the backstory part. That really did feel so random.
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Good to see Khun's chess plays but tbh it's my least fav episode.

Roronoa Zoro?
Didn't know he's climbing the tower. Probably got lost and ended there.
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I love how Khun is manipulating pretty much everyone.
May 20, 2020 6:45 PM

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As much as I love the webtoon, the adaptation has been such an underwhelming one so far. For those who love the series might be pitying the series too much.

Yeah, we all can assume that the series is running on a very tight budget. The animation and art are one thing, but at least you can work on the direction. It just sucks. If I weren't read the webtoon, I'd be dead confused with the supposed tension of the test, its rules, Quant's fool-yet-intimidating nature as a ranker, and more. They chose to ignore those points and guess what they've been emphasizing in the series so far?? Yes... Rak and Chocobar. A very definition of a recurring annoyance.

Yeah, Khun is the only one carrying the series so far. It doesn't deserve 8/10 for sure.
May 20, 2020 6:54 PM
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It's REALLY hard to follow this anime.
Nothing is properly explained.
Everything is confusing.

I thought this was going to be a confrotation beetween 2 teams, but then it's not, and some get a free pass because they "did well" or because others reasons. I don't even care.

Then we get the worst character introduction ever, and they talk about how they're gonna kill eachother... But why ? How does it work ? Where are they exactly ?
And why these instructors are teaching them to get stronger, so they can kill one another afterwards...?

The Rachel business is starting to get real annoying, imagine Gon's father was with him during the Hunter Exam and they both avoid eachother ON PURPOSE.

Oh my god...

May 20, 2020 6:56 PM

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Khun is the real MC of this anime.

Btw the anime didn't properly explain a simple detail which is the main reason why so many people got confused.

The thing is, there is a limited slot for each class to pass. So for example, not every wave controller can pass. Or not every fisherman can pass. These slots may be 2 people, 3 people or more or less for each class we don't know.

Each regular also got points during their lessons for their particular classes. That's why some of them are guaranteed to pass thanks to their high performances during their classes.

If team A won, all members of that team would get 1k points. So think about it like this:

Let's say the wave controllers on team A has 3k+ points each. And if they win, they would have 4k+ points. Laure probably has much more points than others since we know he is guaranteed to pass. So one slot is already taken.

And let's say Bam has 2.5k points. Even if his team won, he would have 3.5k points which is lower than other wave controllers in team A. Thus, Bam would fail.
May 20, 2020 7:04 PM
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how even do people say how good this is when it is still airing.......


lmao didn't you make a whole thread on how bad this anime was even it didn't even finish airing?
isn't a new thread coming up every week from the same 5 dudes ranting on how this show is overrated and nothing else
May 20, 2020 7:12 PM
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The episode was good but as some of them have pointed out,it is not the exposition but rather the visuals that are missing. Some have correctly pointed out that sometimes the animation looks like Studio Pierrot. Unfortunately, it will not be anime of the year. Hell, it is even losing to Kaguya-Sama in terms of rating and being an epic fantasy genre, I can guarantee that everyone can agree that ToG under-performed.

The only thing pushing me is the story. It is so good but someone please has to notify the director that story and art and sound enjoyment does not require an anime, they can be built individually. What we need is animation, the sakuga and the choreography. Even though the indivdual scenes are good, the anime is so jittery. It does not flow like Shinsu (you get the pun). I am not saying to make it movie level but please watch Shinchiro Watanabe since the story can have any opinion but he sure knows how to make a sandbox. Also, MHA -> people can have whatever opinion but the individual episodes -> "My Hero", "Shoto Todoroki: Origin", "Japanese Hero Billboard Chart", "His Start", "Lemillion", "Infinite 100%" -> Yes, the title of the episode is the theme of the episode, i do not think ToG can come any close to this level of choreography. Do not get me wrong, in ToG the title of the epsiode is the story of the episode, not the theme.

If episode 8 had a theme, it should be "Betrayal" or maybe "Khun" or "Friends" or there could be thousand other themes which they do not leverage on and hence the anime is good but because of the lacking emotion, I just feel bad.


MHA was a big budget production that stayed faithfull to the manga and didn't try to cram 7-8 chapters into one episode like this shitfest did. Not really comparable.


mha and demonhunter was literally hard carried by the animation studio, the source material is extremely mediocre the animation was over budgeted so they had to time for stuff like that im glad some one else knows this,

and tog should be compared to something like inferno cop or star patrol luluco cuz thats what its budget is comparable to,
May 20, 2020 7:12 PM

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It's now time for Kami no Uragiri.

Quite a good episode with worse animation compared to the previous episodes. I hope the reason is that they saved the animation budget for the latter episodes.

More like Uragiri no Tou. But nice try weeb.
May 20, 2020 7:58 PM

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Ah yes the Spear Bearer revolution! LOL

This game is another manifestation of Tower politics which is at it's very basic is just another "plans within plans".
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May 20, 2020 8:07 PM

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I was kind of waiting for Khun's betrayal the whole time. He cares about Bam so much that it would feel unnatural if he didn't betray others for him.

I don't like how the episodes end right in the middle of things. I wish they were slightly longer.
May 20, 2020 8:16 PM

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Meh after meh episode, at this point im just watching for the lolz and to see how would anime only react to this show XD. 5/10 adaptation so far.
May 20, 2020 8:24 PM
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Dang Khun, he really failed for Team B to pass the test. That plot twist shocked me and I still like Rak the way he wanted to eat more chocolate bars, I love him so much. XD

I wonder how Team B will go since she said their team was full of 'trash'.

But I'm counting on Team B and can't wait to see how they'll pass the test or not? HAHA but I think they'll past the test. :>
May 20, 2020 8:44 PM

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It's REALLY hard to follow this anime.
Nothing is properly explained.
Everything is confusing.

I thought this was going to be a confrotation beetween 2 teams, but then it's not, and some get a free pass because they "did well" or because others reasons. I don't even care.

Then we get the worst character introduction ever, and they talk about how they're gonna kill eachother... But why ? How does it work ? Where are they exactly ?
And why these instructors are teaching them to get stronger, so they can kill one another afterwards...?

The Rachel business is starting to get real annoying, imagine Gon's father was with him during the Hunter Exam and they both avoid eachother ON PURPOSE.

Oh my god...



1. you are just missing details the that were stated. They clearly said that the teams are not facing each other. 2 this part wasn't as clear they showed that some of the people are more closer to top of the class, now they just stated who.

2. Quant is that type of character that is impulsive. No they are not training them to kill them but they also don't care if they die that is the kind of place the tower is.

3. I not sure you could call it spoiler but I tell you "one" thing about Rachel to understand her better
May 20, 2020 9:24 PM

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Something I notced this episode is why is CR translating MC-kuns name as Bam?

Reading from the list that was revealed in the episode... and by hearing (Yoru) his name translates to “Night of the 25th Day”.

Ok so then, why Bam? And what does Night of the 25th Day mean?


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Great episode for sure, so Khun lost on purpose because that was his real objective, damn! What a "game".

That girl was right but it appears that Hoh is of a completely different opinion.

Now i can't wait for the next episode! Team B, do wonder what's their plan...
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May 20, 2020 9:42 PM
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Another good episode, regarding animation, i can't really describe it but I guess it's neither bad or great, its just basic I guess, but still for being basic I still somehow like it, I can feel weight and impact in every hit (or is it just me?) in quant's actions and i let the lack of choreography slide only due to the fact it isn't even a matched fight, (choreography was much better presented in the crowns game as it was a matched battle) its a subtle way to show the difference of a ranker and a regular, i'm not giving an excuse it's really just how I see it.
May 20, 2020 10:23 PM

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The art style is so simple yet the animation is pathetic. Either make detailed art style with decent animation (Old Berserk) or make simple art with excellent animation (Mob Psycho 100)(I prefer the latter btw). Or any other variation in between (like most other anime). ToG is on the low end both in art and animation.
May 20, 2020 10:53 PM

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Having to wait a week again for the next episode will be painfull. Really this show is quite interesting so far. Im not yure how long the story is overall, which makes me wonder how they will handle characters in the future. More and more will drop out as far as I understand, so either the character list will grow thin in the end or they have to substitue new ones. Which is why Im worried about the characterization, only a few of them got a backstory. And 2 of those are limited to "know each other, done". But somfar its good in that regard I would say.

I was quite curious to see a ship and a harbour in the backstory, and a ranker outside the test. Makes me wonder how big the world is really.

Bam(??) and Rachel seem rather edgy still, so Im glad the other characters are there to balance it out
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May 20, 2020 10:56 PM

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The episode was okay. But I can't get over the feeling that I am still missing somenthing to fully understand the whole story lol.
May 20, 2020 10:58 PM

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Personally the comedy isn't really doing it for me. The whole chocolate bars thing was funny in the beginning but now it's become Rak's whole personality. Rak has seen the least amount of character development of the bunch.
May 20, 2020 11:19 PM
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Personally the comedy isn't really doing it for me. The whole chocolate bars thing was funny in the beginning but now it's become Rak's whole personality. Rak has seen the least amount of character development of the bunch.

Makes you wonder why they put this anime original scenes when they rush everything else including some very needed explanations of what is really going on.
May 20, 2020 11:26 PM

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couldn't tell if it was just me or due to how much happened but this episode felt very very long didn't help i wasn't in the greatest of moods ,will speak about some of these characters backgrounds this is the 2nd character that has some fucked up past like the dude with the horns having all his people get bagged up or this girl with all her friends getting killed by a ranker? forgot if she actually said who it was ,for now it all seems very out of place like what kind of lives are these people living in the tower before they came here lol it makes Bams caveman liffe seem pretty peaceful.
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Personally the comedy isn't really doing it for me. The whole chocolate bars thing was funny in the beginning but now it's become Rak's whole personality. Rak has seen the least amount of character development of the bunch.

Makes you wonder why they put this anime original scenes when they rush everything else including some very needed explanations of what is really going on.
True, I found myself quite lost at how they glazed over the explanations of the roles.I had to spend some time understanding how a "Lighthouse" or "fisherman" works on Wikis.
May 21, 2020 12:09 AM
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This episode was alright, It's not the worst but its not as good as some of the other episodes. I did however enjoy Khun's betrayal; I really liked how we got to see more of him using his intelligence as a tool. With this I am now seeing that Khun is kinda the complete package, he's strong, smart, nice and level headed. I'm hoping that we get some info on his lineage to give us some answers on why's he's so op.
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Okay this finally got my interest in the webtoon

How many chapters does it covers now? Also how many chapters is S1 and 2 of the webtoon?
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