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Sep 15, 2017 5:32 AM

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thepath said:
SilentNox said:
I just wonder ,why in all Fate series i have watched lancer's seem to be the strongest of all classes (except for the Gilgamesh who is by far the moster powerful servant ever presented)?



Fate/zero lancer was not strong. I also think saber can easily beat fate/stay night lancer with Excalibur. I also think Berserk can beat him or at least equal to him
Fate/Zero Lancer, in terms of skill, is the best iirc. He is outmatched by FSN Lancer in speed and NP, who is a demi-god btw.



Anyway you also have to consider that the other servants usually don't get a chance to shine because plot. But in Apocrypha's case, Vlad has insane fame boost and Karna is a demi-god.

Tl;dr it depends on what the heroic spirit is AND the class, not just the class.
Sep 17, 2017 10:53 AM
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So Vlad can just apply the concept of being pierced onto things... Then why did he waited that long to pierce karna from the inside, and why did he not used it constantly after it? Couldn't he just apply bigger spikes into Karna's head and just behead him or something? Instead of throwing a bunch of stakes at the guy...

Heck couldn't he just use his stakes to attack caster's fortress from the outside, like impaling it with a huge stake?

Sep 17, 2017 5:07 PM

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Vlad vs Karna was intense. It sucks Karna had to withdraw before he could his NP. That would've been epic. Sieg vs Mordred was awesome too. Ruler tanking Spartacus NP with her own was great.
Sep 18, 2017 3:01 AM
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Best girl with her flag and saving the day :)
Heckle was here...
Sep 18, 2017 1:03 PM
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That damn homonculus is getting on my nerves. Why won't he die for his stupidity? Honestly...
Most of the characters I really don't care for. With Fate/Zero there was time to build them all up and know what's at stake, get to know the personalities. Here, there's too many characters and most are very unlikeable with few exceptions such as Ruler, Red Saber and the necromancer. My opinion on Black Rider swings around.
But this episode was pretty good (still wanted homonculus to die...disappointed). Ruler and Saber's fights are definitely the highlights.
Sep 22, 2017 6:25 AM

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wow, that was a pretty intense episode. those Karna vs Vlad scenes were the only thing I really loved about this series so far though. also. when is Sieg finally gonna die? I can't help but cringe every time he opens his mouth.
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Sep 23, 2017 6:47 AM

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Infinite stakeworks so stupid
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Sep 30, 2017 5:13 AM

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Spartacus was insane...
Vlad and Karna fight was great, I believe one of the best battles until now.
Oct 7, 2017 6:48 AM

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This thought from now on, and I've always seen the red faction as the enemy and not the other way around, who knows why. Narration that does not disappoint this time, the roaring attacks never fail, eheheh!
Oct 9, 2017 6:17 PM

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Glad to see more Jeanne!! Luminosité Eternelle!!!!!!!!!!
Oct 11, 2017 8:21 AM
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pretty, shinning ald gold Grial!!! kekeke
Oct 30, 2017 10:41 AM

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I wonder what's so bad about his Noble Phantasm that he refuses to use it...
"At some point, I stopped hoping."
Nov 10, 2017 12:45 PM
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So were finally starting to understand Vlad's motivation this episode.
I really like his Noble Phantasm. its pretty OP but its a nice reference to who he was in life.
Vlad's motivation is pretty understandable and I totally understand why he doesn't want to use his more popular legend.

We lost Frankenstein but at least Dracula is tagging in for her. All we need now is the Mummy, a Wolf-Man, and a Fishman just for good measure.
Dec 29, 2017 4:24 PM

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And then Vlad impaled Semiramis' Babylon fortress with a giant spike because Lancer ability. Fight over, become one with Romania. Jk. Meanwhile Dranic sp is just kind of there with the Grail. Not much Jeanne this episode? On to the next.
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Dec 31, 2017 9:01 PM

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Damn, I am wondering whatever this massive battle will continue all the way till the end because in this episode it sure missed it's opportunity to hold up and take the breather.

Then again, 20 episodes long endless battle of servant sure doesn't sound bad.
Feb 6, 2018 4:50 AM

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The fight was cool. 3/5
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Nov 19, 2018 3:05 AM

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Spartacus gets hurt, makes masochist comments
Dammit Japan, why you gotta make this weird

Jeanne has to stop Spartacus from hurting innocent people? Where was she when jack the ripper was killing people lol?

Why does the inside of the hanging gardens look like a gothic castle?
Jun 23, 2019 4:58 AM

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So Vlad can barely fight with Karna outside of Vlad's territory, pretty lame if I must say.

frenze12 said:
So Vlad can just apply the concept of being pierced onto things... Then why did he waited that long to pierce karna from the inside, and why did he not used it constantly after it? Couldn't he just apply bigger spikes into Karna's head and just behead him or something? Instead of throwing a bunch of stakes at the guy...

Heck couldn't he just use his stakes to attack caster's fortress from the outside, like impaling it with a huge stake?


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Exactly my thoughts. Though one of the reasons he don't want to behead him, is he still want to enjoy the fight, I guess.
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Jul 8, 2019 10:53 AM

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Glad Spartacus is finally gone, they certainly did not portray him in a very positive light.
Aug 28, 2019 2:21 AM

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Jeanne has to stop Spartacus from hurting innocent people? Where was she when jack the ripper was killing people lol?

You cannot always save everyone.

Are you Emiya Shirou?
Dec 17, 2019 3:42 PM
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Ew, Spartacus's noble phantasm. Never cared for him either, so good riddance.

If I could summon any servant in a holy grail war, I would pick Karna.
Mar 26, 2020 8:06 AM
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Is Red Berserker dead? Like, for real? I do hope so, that is the least interesting class across the anime franchise (maybe with the exception of FZ).
Apr 12, 2020 3:54 AM

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hmm.. two black down...one red down.... 11 servants and ruler left
Apr 28, 2020 9:18 PM

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Another great episode.
Nov 18, 2023 10:10 PM
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A lot happened!
- Atlanta stands in the way of ruler
- Spartacus just a big monster now
- Karna vs Vlad is very visually stunning, although short
- Karna is internally stabbed? So Vlad can just spawn them wherever he wants
- Karna burns millions of stakes at once…. Nice
- “Filthy meat balloon”
- Spartacus beam was pretty stunning, good job to Ruler for protecting Astolfo and Sieg. Looks like that was the last of Spartacus. 6v6, both Berserkers are down.
- Karna is called back to his master? Damn that was gonna be a cool fight
- The Flying Fortress Destroys the castle! They’re taking the Greater Grail with it!
- The fight has been taken inside the fortress. People will most likely begin dying more frequently.
Dec 1, 2023 6:58 PM
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Wow why did she stop running then continue back in running lol funny moments
Jan 3, 5:49 PM
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quite good but the story is hard to follow
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