Magical Girl Raising Project (light novel)
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Oct 17, 2016 11:41 PM
#101
They were all unusually undistraught by the news. I would have expected Snow White to freak like Madoka. I sure hope she can figure out the true mahou shoujo thing and save everyone, or at least try. This show tries to stay cute and gentle despite dire circumstances, if anything that's the more messed up factor of the show. Top Speed = Marisa. just sayin |
❀桜舞う空〜 Cute is Power. 🔗CosmoGenesis Project AraOto ep06 @ 11:59 “Absence of evidence is not evidence of absence.” “A truth seeker has no patience for BS.” I seek only to improve myself and others. |
Oct 18, 2016 12:50 AM
#102
So we are three episodes in and this is not getting any better. My fears seem to have been confirmed as this litereally is trying to catch Madoka's fame SO HARD that it fails to recognize why Madoka was good. By the time the infamous EP3 of Madoka hit, we already had compelling characters, good build up in terms of philosophy, an interesting struggle and interesting mysteries. Ep3 had edge and THAT MOMENT sure but it did not rely on that to make a point. It hit hard because we cared. This? This has none of that. I barely remember any character names at this point and the "cute girls suffering" seems to be done for the sake of doing it. We get it - you want to make an edgy show where little kids are falling into despair and dying brutally. Great for you, Magical Girl Raising Project writers - so did 57458757 other writing teams after Madoka happened. As someone I know compared it, Madoka seems to have had similar impact to the genre like Evangelion did. AFter Evangelion airing, there were THOUSANDS of mecha shows for years who tried to recapture the same mindfucky nature and tone of the show, not realizing that audience simply does not care anymore and that they liked EVA for being EVA. Same with Madoka. Madoka ended with Episode 12. It had great and logical conclusion. It was not great because of edge or suffering or anything like that. It was great because it was very well made show about interesting characters stuck in interesting philosophical problems and the psychological issues that causes. You could remove the edge and it would still be an efficient show. And it was one of a kind. You do not need to try to redo the same idea AGAIN. And yet just like SAO spawned gazillions of "nondescript japanese boy is transported to the game world where he gets a harem" adaptations, Madoka seems to have spawned a generation of mahou shoujo shows that seem to think that edge=quality and that just having cute girls in dark situations will be enough(I mean that kind of logic is why we have nonsense like Wixoss in the first place). I keep watching this and I keep being reminded of the anime production portrayed in first two episodes of Girlish Number so far. Apparently it DOES go that way in the real world. Magical Girl Raising Project feels like someone clueless took Madoka for edge and copy-pasted bunch of stuff from Danganronpa(I mean seriously? Oh look, Monokuma's back but lost his ears!) and then said "hey this will be surefire hit!". Yet so far, three episodes in, there does not seem to be anything worthwile int his show. I will watch maybe one or two more episodes to see if it does try to differentiate itself from the rest, but so far this seems to be stuck in the "soulless clone" kind of category, lacking identity of it's own and relying on edgy hijinks to try to shock the viewer into being interested. |
Oct 18, 2016 7:20 AM
#104
I'm just disappointing there's no Mahou Shoujo who looks like and acted like Mahou Shoujo. |
Oct 18, 2016 8:16 AM
#105
This anime is becoming like danganronpa but with magic girls |
Oct 18, 2016 8:39 PM
#106
TheHatredDMC said: The 1st half was boring and the 2nd half ended up being them ganging up on Snow White which was predictable. Also I(and some of you)already knew when they lost their Magical Girl Status they would end up dying for real(Madoka). It felt like Madoka if killing a Magical Girl gave you the item needed to live for another day is required rather than let her die, become evil, kill her for the item. Rinse and repeat. 3/5 due to the 1st half being boring. to be fair, madoka rules didn't force its participants to kill each other, they should help each other instead & systematically hunt witches the objective of madoka is completely different then ikusei keikaku, where as ikusei is, the rule is to have a super hero to do good things for the normal people & gain point solely from there until they were pitted in this death tournament where stealing & elimination is encouraged the opposite of madoka, ikusei objectives is completely safe from danger, where as madoka is a very dangerous job of hunting monsters i also like how fav works, it seem to be more of a deliverer instead of recruiter/giver like kyubey, this guys don't have a clue why he did it, and just a message relayer fav so far doesn't act like an evil entity, his employer are and now that from information we get, not many shoujo have power to do a direct combat outside of reinforced body, we'll see how their potential play out in this "encouraged death game", its jojo all iver again |
tehheadOct 18, 2016 8:47 PM
Oct 19, 2016 7:19 AM
#107
Fai said: So we are three episodes in and this is not getting any better. My fears seem to have been confirmed as this litereally is trying to catch Madoka's fame SO HARD that it fails to recognize why Madoka was good. By the time the infamous EP3 of Madoka hit, we already had compelling characters, good build up in terms of philosophy, an interesting struggle and interesting mysteries. Ep3 had edge and THAT MOMENT sure but it did not rely on that to make a point. It hit hard because we cared. This? This has none of that. I barely remember any character names at this point and the "cute girls suffering" seems to be done for the sake of doing it. We get it - you want to make an edgy show where little kids are falling into despair and dying brutally. Great for you, Magical Girl Raising Project writers - so did 57458757 other writing teams after Madoka happened. As someone I know compared it, Madoka seems to have had similar impact to the genre like Evangelion did. AFter Evangelion airing, there were THOUSANDS of mecha shows for years who tried to recapture the same mindfucky nature and tone of the show, not realizing that audience simply does not care anymore and that they liked EVA for being EVA. Same with Madoka. Madoka ended with Episode 12. It had great and logical conclusion. It was not great because of edge or suffering or anything like that. It was great because it was very well made show about interesting characters stuck in interesting philosophical problems and the psychological issues that causes. You could remove the edge and it would still be an efficient show. And it was one of a kind. You do not need to try to redo the same idea AGAIN. And yet just like SAO spawned gazillions of "nondescript japanese boy is transported to the game world where he gets a harem" adaptations, Madoka seems to have spawned a generation of mahou shoujo shows that seem to think that edge=quality and that just having cute girls in dark situations will be enough(I mean that kind of logic is why we have nonsense like Wixoss in the first place). I keep watching this and I keep being reminded of the anime production portrayed in first two episodes of Girlish Number so far. Apparently it DOES go that way in the real world. Magical Girl Raising Project feels like someone clueless took Madoka for edge and copy-pasted bunch of stuff from Danganronpa(I mean seriously? Oh look, Monokuma's back but lost his ears!) and then said "hey this will be surefire hit!". Yet so far, three episodes in, there does not seem to be anything worthwile int his show. I will watch maybe one or two more episodes to see if it does try to differentiate itself from the rest, but so far this seems to be stuck in the "soulless clone" kind of category, lacking identity of it's own and relying on edgy hijinks to try to shock the viewer into being interested. So how do you deal facts like -mahoiku isn't even going in the same direction as Madoka so it's not trying to be like it. So obviously, it's failing to be like it. Mahoiku is heavily oriented toward peoples manipulating each others, professionals fighting professionals ( gaolers, criminals , police-like entities, prof. assassins, freelance bounty hunter, politicians, foreign relations, and so on and so on) behind the scenes, with as one of its main theme the corruption of the system, with death on the line. Mahoiku's plots couldn't give less of a fuck of madomagi's plotline than it's giving across the volumes. -mahoiku's cast isn't simply suffering teenagers. More than half of its cast are adults (and it's logical, since lots of them are having a job of some sorts). -mahoiku starts with 16 magical girl, not 2. The first to die isn't supposed to be a character we learned to love for several episodes. Mahoiku isn't failing to make you love the character that died, it's not trying to make you love that character. Also, while madoka had a huge success, it can HARDLY be compared to evangelion as far as its influence goes. Madomagi's influence is almost nothing, whereas Evangelion's influence was huge. As far as rejecting edge=quality (who ever said something like that anyway) Mahoiku is far less about character psychologically suffering than madoka was, so I see no problem here. In Mahoiku, most deaths are brutal and most peoples don't even know each other enough to mourn that much. You saw the reaction of the first death. Snow white reacted, sister nana reacted, and that was it. And Nemurin was actually appreciated by a lot more of mahou shoujo than most other mahou shoujo among those 16. As I said before, and you ignored it, your problem is that you're desperately (why?) trying to tie every single thing in this show to madoka. -oh, that thing looks simmilar, so it must be the same! it's copying! -oh, that thing isn't the same! they tried to do the same but failed so hard! pathetic! Well yeah, with that mindset, no matter what this show does, they're trying to do a madoka bis. If it looks the same they must be copying, if they do differently they just failed to understand/copy properly. The reality is, that story reaaaaally isn't trying to be a madomagi. -The story isn't about becoming magical girl (they already are) -the story isn't about a hidden reality behind the deal to become a magical girl (there's no such thing) -the story isn't about losing your humanity (quite the contrary). -the story isn't about saving the world or universe or whatever -the story isn't about fighting monster (magical girls vs magical girls) -the story isn't about being tricked by an evil mascot (although some peoples may have been) -the story isn't about seeing young girls suffering emotionally (lots and lots of adults, and far more direct and quick brutality than mind pain here) -the story isn't putting in opposition some kind of entity vs pure young girls. It's putting the bland, direct and far more fearsome "evil deeds" that any human can do for various reasons against other humans. Basically it's our world reality with magical girls as characters instead of random normal humans. -the magical girls aren't disconnected of the real world when they act -The magical girls aren't equal as far as social status goes -the magical girls aren't guaranteed to have fighting abilities at all, quite the contrary -magical girl isn't a temporary thing from the youth. Technically a 80 years old woman can be one just as well. Heck, if souta manages to live long enough, he could be a 80 years old man transforming into a magical girl. Think about that. And so on. And so on. TAKE THIS SHOW FOR WHAT IT IS, STOP LOOKING AT IT WITH MADOMAGI'S DEFORMING GOGGLES. |
ZefyrisOct 19, 2016 7:22 AM
Oct 19, 2016 7:56 AM
#108
tehhead said: TheHatredDMC said: The 1st half was boring and the 2nd half ended up being them ganging up on Snow White which was predictable. Also I(and some of you)already knew when they lost their Magical Girl Status they would end up dying for real(Madoka). It felt like Madoka if killing a Magical Girl gave you the item needed to live for another day is required rather than let her die, become evil, kill her for the item. Rinse and repeat. 3/5 due to the 1st half being boring. to be fair, madoka rules didn't force its participants to kill each other, they should help each other instead & systematically hunt witches the objective of madoka is completely different then ikusei keikaku, where as ikusei is, the rule is to have a super hero to do good things for the normal people & gain point solely from there until they were pitted in this death tournament where stealing & elimination is encouraged the opposite of madoka, ikusei objectives is completely safe from danger, where as madoka is a very dangerous job of hunting monsters i also like how fav works, it seem to be more of a deliverer instead of recruiter/giver like kyubey, this guys don't have a clue why he did it, and just a message relayer fav so far doesn't act like an evil entity, his employer are and now that from information we get, not many shoujo have power to do a direct combat outside of reinforced body, we'll see how their potential play out in this "encouraged death game", its jojo all iver again I wished I could believe that but since the end of episode 3, it's basically turned into Madoka with a Battle Royale thing now. "Stealing Candies"= Killing other girls while being the last one standing wins kind of deal. |
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Oct 19, 2016 8:21 AM
#109
TheHatredDMC said: tehhead said: TheHatredDMC said: The 1st half was boring and the 2nd half ended up being them ganging up on Snow White which was predictable. Also I(and some of you)already knew when they lost their Magical Girl Status they would end up dying for real(Madoka). It felt like Madoka if killing a Magical Girl gave you the item needed to live for another day is required rather than let her die, become evil, kill her for the item. Rinse and repeat. 3/5 due to the 1st half being boring. to be fair, madoka rules didn't force its participants to kill each other, they should help each other instead & systematically hunt witches the objective of madoka is completely different then ikusei keikaku, where as ikusei is, the rule is to have a super hero to do good things for the normal people & gain point solely from there until they were pitted in this death tournament where stealing & elimination is encouraged the opposite of madoka, ikusei objectives is completely safe from danger, where as madoka is a very dangerous job of hunting monsters i also like how fav works, it seem to be more of a deliverer instead of recruiter/giver like kyubey, this guys don't have a clue why he did it, and just a message relayer fav so far doesn't act like an evil entity, his employer are and now that from information we get, not many shoujo have power to do a direct combat outside of reinforced body, we'll see how their potential play out in this "encouraged death game", its jojo all iver again I wished I could believe that but since the end of episode 3, it's basically turned into Madoka with a Battle Royale thing now. "Stealing Candies"= Killing other girls while being the last one standing wins kind of deal. When was madoka about stealing something or being the last one standing? What relation between this show and madoka? Are you lacking so so much knowledge about magical girls that you're thinking madoka invented the magical girl genre? |
Oct 19, 2016 10:36 AM
#110
THIS THOUGH. I went looking for spoilers on the novel and since Zefryris has read them thus knows what he/she is talking about, I think we should take Zefryris's word over naysayers who keep calling it "Madoka rip-off". *IT'S NOT F*CKING MADOKA. * Dark magical girl shows ARE NOT A NEW CONCEPT. MADOKA DIDN'T CREATE THIS CONCEPT. This has been going on SINCE THE 90S with Devil Hunter Youko and Dream Hunter REM. I'm just disappointing there's no Mahou Shoujo who looks like and acted like Mahou Shoujo. Uh..........this is Koyuki. Snow White is exactly this. |
ChiibiOct 19, 2016 10:45 AM
Oct 19, 2016 5:24 PM
#111
TheHatredDMC said: tehhead said: TheHatredDMC said: The 1st half was boring and the 2nd half ended up being them ganging up on Snow White which was predictable. Also I(and some of you)already knew when they lost their Magical Girl Status they would end up dying for real(Madoka). It felt like Madoka if killing a Magical Girl gave you the item needed to live for another day is required rather than let her die, become evil, kill her for the item. Rinse and repeat. 3/5 due to the 1st half being boring. to be fair, madoka rules didn't force its participants to kill each other, they should help each other instead & systematically hunt witches the objective of madoka is completely different then ikusei keikaku, where as ikusei is, the rule is to have a super hero to do good things for the normal people & gain point solely from there until they were pitted in this death tournament where stealing & elimination is encouraged the opposite of madoka, ikusei objectives is completely safe from danger, where as madoka is a very dangerous job of hunting monsters i also like how fav works, it seem to be more of a deliverer instead of recruiter/giver like kyubey, this guys don't have a clue why he did it, and just a message relayer fav so far doesn't act like an evil entity, his employer are and now that from information we get, not many shoujo have power to do a direct combat outside of reinforced body, we'll see how their potential play out in this "encouraged death game", its jojo all iver again I wished I could believe that but since the end of episode 3, it's basically turned into Madoka with a Battle Royale thing now. "Stealing Candies"= Killing other girls while being the last one standing wins kind of deal. the rule established up until EP 3 technically doesn't encourage MURDER , the better participant has option to actually trade his/her candy so that the other can stay out of the elimination, but since this current system expect at least 1 people to die by the end of the week, even if they don't kill the other competitor because lacking in guts, they can beat a weaker competitor & rob him/her points & the rest will be the systems call, hey the system might just change their mind and just leave a competitor alive (totally not happening lol) it haven't fully turned into a death tournament game, but sure is steal or be stolen game remember, they still gonna leave 8 people to live & another 8 coming after this elimination for god knows when the system start eliminating again, i'd say it triggers between 16 magic user, those veterans/survival of this game sure are encourage to prey on the newbies, just to keep the number at 15, where its the sweet spot of "everybody is peachy & happy, except for newcomer lol" |
Oct 19, 2016 5:39 PM
#112
rikuhod said: They took it in calmer way than I have expected. This does not feel realistic at all. Maybe that was the point.. I don't know. I have thought they reaction would be like the population of Sword art online when the truth was revealed, with total desperation and panic. Exactly this, I find their nonchalant attitude a little bit annoying, besides, these girls are totally okay with killing other girls just like that? Like, I know there are bad people in the real world but it seems like the only good willed people in this anime are La Pucelle and Snow White, I can already see the demise of the lackeys of that group, their leader is gonna use them, while each one of them dies and she's left last to fight the remaining factions. |
Oct 19, 2016 6:08 PM
#113
MirluSaku said: valvravetruth said: Well not sure about you guys thou, I have read the series very long ago and I can tell you guys the story is a bit stupid really. At first you are surprised about the dying and stuffs, then later it will just purely turn to killing game. Friend protect friend & friend turn enemy leeching for power, which at the end the mc said so herself that this is not a mahou shoujo story anymore. The closure is even more stupid=.= The part that will interest you is 1) whose alive at the end and 2) the real identity behind those mahou shoujo. The saddest one is Top Speed and how she end up:( well, because this episode I was thinking of droping this series because they showed the BIG mystery in a very casual way without impact and chibi characters, in my opinion too early. After reading these spoilers I will definetly drop it now, you saved my time! :D the story IS pretty dumb,just a "wow so darke mahou shoujo such edge much surprise" After reading this, I don't even know if this anime is worth my time but I'll just keep watching to see how bad/good it turns out. |
Oct 19, 2016 9:42 PM
#114
Zefyris said: TheHatredDMC said: tehhead said: TheHatredDMC said: The 1st half was boring and the 2nd half ended up being them ganging up on Snow White which was predictable. Also I(and some of you)already knew when they lost their Magical Girl Status they would end up dying for real(Madoka). It felt like Madoka if killing a Magical Girl gave you the item needed to live for another day is required rather than let her die, become evil, kill her for the item. Rinse and repeat. 3/5 due to the 1st half being boring. to be fair, madoka rules didn't force its participants to kill each other, they should help each other instead & systematically hunt witches the objective of madoka is completely different then ikusei keikaku, where as ikusei is, the rule is to have a super hero to do good things for the normal people & gain point solely from there until they were pitted in this death tournament where stealing & elimination is encouraged the opposite of madoka, ikusei objectives is completely safe from danger, where as madoka is a very dangerous job of hunting monsters i also like how fav works, it seem to be more of a deliverer instead of recruiter/giver like kyubey, this guys don't have a clue why he did it, and just a message relayer fav so far doesn't act like an evil entity, his employer are and now that from information we get, not many shoujo have power to do a direct combat outside of reinforced body, we'll see how their potential play out in this "encouraged death game", its jojo all iver again I wished I could believe that but since the end of episode 3, it's basically turned into Madoka with a Battle Royale thing now. "Stealing Candies"= Killing other girls while being the last one standing wins kind of deal. When was madoka about stealing something or being the last one standing? What relation between this show and madoka? Are you lacking so so much knowledge about magical girls that you're thinking madoka invented the magical girl genre? When the girls becames witches you kill them for the item, technically that would be stealing their life force. And No I don't think Madoka invented it. Where did you come up with that crap? Stop putting words in my mouth. *Faceplam* If anything, it changed how people see the Magical Girl genre for being more than "cute girls doing cute things in an episodic manner" |
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Oct 19, 2016 9:46 PM
#115
tehhead said: TheHatredDMC said: tehhead said: TheHatredDMC said: The 1st half was boring and the 2nd half ended up being them ganging up on Snow White which was predictable. Also I(and some of you)already knew when they lost their Magical Girl Status they would end up dying for real(Madoka). It felt like Madoka if killing a Magical Girl gave you the item needed to live for another day is required rather than let her die, become evil, kill her for the item. Rinse and repeat. 3/5 due to the 1st half being boring. to be fair, madoka rules didn't force its participants to kill each other, they should help each other instead & systematically hunt witches the objective of madoka is completely different then ikusei keikaku, where as ikusei is, the rule is to have a super hero to do good things for the normal people & gain point solely from there until they were pitted in this death tournament where stealing & elimination is encouraged the opposite of madoka, ikusei objectives is completely safe from danger, where as madoka is a very dangerous job of hunting monsters i also like how fav works, it seem to be more of a deliverer instead of recruiter/giver like kyubey, this guys don't have a clue why he did it, and just a message relayer fav so far doesn't act like an evil entity, his employer are and now that from information we get, not many shoujo have power to do a direct combat outside of reinforced body, we'll see how their potential play out in this "encouraged death game", its jojo all iver again I wished I could believe that but since the end of episode 3, it's basically turned into Madoka with a Battle Royale thing now. "Stealing Candies"= Killing other girls while being the last one standing wins kind of deal. the rule established up until EP 3 technically doesn't encourage MURDER , the better participant has option to actually trade his/her candy so that the other can stay out of the elimination, but since this current system expect at least 1 people to die by the end of the week, even if they don't kill the other competitor because lacking in guts, they can beat a weaker competitor & rob him/her points & the rest will be the systems call, hey the system might just change their mind and just leave a competitor alive (totally not happening lol) it haven't fully turned into a death tournament game, but sure is steal or be stolen game remember, they still gonna leave 8 people to live & another 8 coming after this elimination for god knows when the system start eliminating again, i'd say it triggers between 16 magic user, those veterans/survival of this game sure are encourage to prey on the newbies, just to keep the number at 15, where its the sweet spot of "everybody is peachy & happy, except for newcomer lol" And lets just say that Snow White does die, then what? It's once again gonna be another power and another magical girl will be ganged up on. No matter how you look at it, its basically saying "In order to make this whole thing easier, I need to kill you to do just that" scenario. |
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Oct 19, 2016 10:44 PM
#116
Zefyris said: Also, while madoka had a huge success, it can HARDLY be compared to evangelion as far as its influence goes. Madomagi's influence is almost nothing, whereas Evangelion's influence was huge. Yep. People really overstate Madoka's influence. And it's almost like they think Madoka was the first deconstruction of magical girls, forgetting about anime like Utena and Princess Tutu. |
Oct 20, 2016 2:34 AM
#117
Just saying that this anime reminded me of The Genius. ugly victories and beautiful defeats. you know someone will be eliminated (or die) every week. the question is just who will and how. |
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Oct 20, 2016 2:58 AM
#118
Oct 20, 2016 3:32 AM
#119
TheHatredDMC said: Zefyris said: TheHatredDMC said: tehhead said: TheHatredDMC said: The 1st half was boring and the 2nd half ended up being them ganging up on Snow White which was predictable. Also I(and some of you)already knew when they lost their Magical Girl Status they would end up dying for real(Madoka). It felt like Madoka if killing a Magical Girl gave you the item needed to live for another day is required rather than let her die, become evil, kill her for the item. Rinse and repeat. 3/5 due to the 1st half being boring. to be fair, madoka rules didn't force its participants to kill each other, they should help each other instead & systematically hunt witches the objective of madoka is completely different then ikusei keikaku, where as ikusei is, the rule is to have a super hero to do good things for the normal people & gain point solely from there until they were pitted in this death tournament where stealing & elimination is encouraged the opposite of madoka, ikusei objectives is completely safe from danger, where as madoka is a very dangerous job of hunting monsters i also like how fav works, it seem to be more of a deliverer instead of recruiter/giver like kyubey, this guys don't have a clue why he did it, and just a message relayer fav so far doesn't act like an evil entity, his employer are and now that from information we get, not many shoujo have power to do a direct combat outside of reinforced body, we'll see how their potential play out in this "encouraged death game", its jojo all iver again I wished I could believe that but since the end of episode 3, it's basically turned into Madoka with a Battle Royale thing now. "Stealing Candies"= Killing other girls while being the last one standing wins kind of deal. When was madoka about stealing something or being the last one standing? What relation between this show and madoka? Are you lacking so so much knowledge about magical girls that you're thinking madoka invented the magical girl genre? When the girls becames witches you kill them for the item, technically that would be stealing their life force. And No I don't think Madoka invented it. Where did you come up with that crap? Stop putting words in my mouth. *Faceplam* If anything, it changed how people see the Magical Girl genre for being more than "cute girls doing cute things in an episodic manner" Witches have lost any form of human thinking. It's like the magical girl version of zombies. You don't "steal from zombies". You don't do a battle royale against brainless zombies. And Side A fighting side B isn't a battle royale anyway. If magical girls were to fight each other to steal that life force then YES you would be correct. That didn't happen. Madomagi was far nicer on that than mahoiku. Fact is, as I said earlier, the only peoples influenced by madoka aren't the authors of new works, it's madoka fans that cannot accept that madomagi had alkmost NO IMPACT for new magical girl shows. Almost no influence can be perceived. Magical girls show continued just the same, with the same amount of darker magical show among them, same amount of "pinl coloured world", same amount of slice of life, and so on. As such, the moment you start to see a new show as "doing like madoka" you're going in the wrong direction and have pretty much 100 % chance to be wrong. It should therefore not come as a surprise when peoples tell you afterwards that you're wrong and that it has nothing to do with Madoka. |
ZefyrisOct 20, 2016 3:37 AM
Oct 20, 2016 4:01 AM
#120
This episode was so good, the cliffhanger was too much for me to handle and I ended up reading some spoilers. Shame on me, but it's really worth it. More excited to see the next eps now, even when I know who will die next. |
Oct 20, 2016 6:36 AM
#121
Oh no! The inevitable Mahou Shoujo clash is imminent! and the prime target this time is the MC Snow White! Well that was fast, all the girls immediately found-out the truth that if they drop-out, its the same as death, and as well as Nemurin from the public news. New system update? Which enables to share/give/steal candies?!? still bad news cuz it will lead to more conflict and betrayal in order for survival! 5/5! |
Oct 20, 2016 11:03 AM
#122
Zefyris said: Also, while madoka had a huge success, it can HARDLY be compared to evangelion as far as its influence goes. Madomagi's influence is almost nothing, whereas Evangelion's influence was huge. Yuuki Yuna is "influenced" by Madoka geez... |
Oct 20, 2016 11:11 AM
#123
Zefyris said: TheHatredDMC said: Zefyris said: TheHatredDMC said: tehhead said: TheHatredDMC said: The 1st half was boring and the 2nd half ended up being them ganging up on Snow White which was predictable. Also I(and some of you)already knew when they lost their Magical Girl Status they would end up dying for real(Madoka). It felt like Madoka if killing a Magical Girl gave you the item needed to live for another day is required rather than let her die, become evil, kill her for the item. Rinse and repeat. 3/5 due to the 1st half being boring. to be fair, madoka rules didn't force its participants to kill each other, they should help each other instead & systematically hunt witches the objective of madoka is completely different then ikusei keikaku, where as ikusei is, the rule is to have a super hero to do good things for the normal people & gain point solely from there until they were pitted in this death tournament where stealing & elimination is encouraged the opposite of madoka, ikusei objectives is completely safe from danger, where as madoka is a very dangerous job of hunting monsters i also like how fav works, it seem to be more of a deliverer instead of recruiter/giver like kyubey, this guys don't have a clue why he did it, and just a message relayer fav so far doesn't act like an evil entity, his employer are and now that from information we get, not many shoujo have power to do a direct combat outside of reinforced body, we'll see how their potential play out in this "encouraged death game", its jojo all iver again I wished I could believe that but since the end of episode 3, it's basically turned into Madoka with a Battle Royale thing now. "Stealing Candies"= Killing other girls while being the last one standing wins kind of deal. When was madoka about stealing something or being the last one standing? What relation between this show and madoka? Are you lacking so so much knowledge about magical girls that you're thinking madoka invented the magical girl genre? When the girls becames witches you kill them for the item, technically that would be stealing their life force. And No I don't think Madoka invented it. Where did you come up with that crap? Stop putting words in my mouth. *Faceplam* If anything, it changed how people see the Magical Girl genre for being more than "cute girls doing cute things in an episodic manner" Witches have lost any form of human thinking. It's like the magical girl version of zombies. You don't "steal from zombies". You don't do a battle royale against brainless zombies. And Side A fighting side B isn't a battle royale anyway. If magical girls were to fight each other to steal that life force then YES you would be correct. That didn't happen. Madomagi was far nicer on that than mahoiku. Fact is, as I said earlier, the only peoples influenced by madoka aren't the authors of new works, it's madoka fans that cannot accept that madomagi had alkmost NO IMPACT for new magical girl shows. Almost no influence can be perceived. Magical girls show continued just the same, with the same amount of darker magical show among them, same amount of "pinl coloured world", same amount of slice of life, and so on. As such, the moment you start to see a new show as "doing like madoka" you're going in the wrong direction and have pretty much 100 % chance to be wrong. It should therefore not come as a surprise when peoples tell you afterwards that you're wrong and that it has nothing to do with Madoka. I'm not even a fan of Madoka so don't put me in the same crowd. The similarities are there (whether you say I'm wrong is your opinion but it quite doesn't make it right ). And by the way, they're fighting Snow White so technically they are stealing the item to live. They're not asking Snow White for the item, they're gonna kill her for it (assuming they succeed). But I'm tired of going back and forth with this post. I'm going to watch Anime now and relax. |
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Oct 20, 2016 11:41 AM
#124
KingGilgamesh_ said: Zefyris said: Also, while madoka had a huge success, it can HARDLY be compared to evangelion as far as its influence goes. Madomagi's influence is almost nothing, whereas Evangelion's influence was huge. Yuuki Yuna is "influenced" by Madoka geez... YuuYuuYuu has no relationship of any sort with Madoka. Once again, peoples see influence where there simply isn't. MAdoka has little to no influence on the whole mahou shoujo stories being released. TheHatredDMC said: Zefyris said: TheHatredDMC said: Zefyris said: TheHatredDMC said: tehhead said: TheHatredDMC said: The 1st half was boring and the 2nd half ended up being them ganging up on Snow White which was predictable. Also I(and some of you)already knew when they lost their Magical Girl Status they would end up dying for real(Madoka). It felt like Madoka if killing a Magical Girl gave you the item needed to live for another day is required rather than let her die, become evil, kill her for the item. Rinse and repeat. 3/5 due to the 1st half being boring. to be fair, madoka rules didn't force its participants to kill each other, they should help each other instead & systematically hunt witches the objective of madoka is completely different then ikusei keikaku, where as ikusei is, the rule is to have a super hero to do good things for the normal people & gain point solely from there until they were pitted in this death tournament where stealing & elimination is encouraged the opposite of madoka, ikusei objectives is completely safe from danger, where as madoka is a very dangerous job of hunting monsters i also like how fav works, it seem to be more of a deliverer instead of recruiter/giver like kyubey, this guys don't have a clue why he did it, and just a message relayer fav so far doesn't act like an evil entity, his employer are and now that from information we get, not many shoujo have power to do a direct combat outside of reinforced body, we'll see how their potential play out in this "encouraged death game", its jojo all iver again I wished I could believe that but since the end of episode 3, it's basically turned into Madoka with a Battle Royale thing now. "Stealing Candies"= Killing other girls while being the last one standing wins kind of deal. When was madoka about stealing something or being the last one standing? What relation between this show and madoka? Are you lacking so so much knowledge about magical girls that you're thinking madoka invented the magical girl genre? When the girls becames witches you kill them for the item, technically that would be stealing their life force. And No I don't think Madoka invented it. Where did you come up with that crap? Stop putting words in my mouth. *Faceplam* If anything, it changed how people see the Magical Girl genre for being more than "cute girls doing cute things in an episodic manner" Witches have lost any form of human thinking. It's like the magical girl version of zombies. You don't "steal from zombies". You don't do a battle royale against brainless zombies. And Side A fighting side B isn't a battle royale anyway. If magical girls were to fight each other to steal that life force then YES you would be correct. That didn't happen. Madomagi was far nicer on that than mahoiku. Fact is, as I said earlier, the only peoples influenced by madoka aren't the authors of new works, it's madoka fans that cannot accept that madomagi had alkmost NO IMPACT for new magical girl shows. Almost no influence can be perceived. Magical girls show continued just the same, with the same amount of darker magical show among them, same amount of "pinl coloured world", same amount of slice of life, and so on. As such, the moment you start to see a new show as "doing like madoka" you're going in the wrong direction and have pretty much 100 % chance to be wrong. It should therefore not come as a surprise when peoples tell you afterwards that you're wrong and that it has nothing to do with Madoka. I'm not even a fan of Madoka so don't put me in the same crowd. The similarities are there (whether you say I'm wrong is your opinion but it quite doesn't make it right ). And by the way, they're fighting Snow White so technically they are stealing the item to live. They're not asking Snow White for the item, they're gonna kill her for it (assuming they succeed). But I'm tired of going back and forth with this post. I'm going to watch Anime now and relax. You have yet to point out a single similarity. Well yes and? I think you didn't understood what I was saying. What I was saying is that Mahoiku has that, but madomagi doesn't have that. Madomagi never had something like that. they never fought each other to survive. never stole from each other. Kyuubey never tried to pit them against each other, either. |
Oct 21, 2016 3:30 AM
#125
Yuna and Mina were complaining about being treated as the same entity by the system. Are they already only considered one magical girl? Maybe I'm looking too far into this, but I got the impression there's secretly another magical girl we don't know about yet. Also seems pretty likely that Souta will sacrifice himself for Koyuki, giving her all his candies at some point. I really want to see where this goes o.o |
Oct 21, 2016 9:03 AM
#126
Does anybody know where I can read the light novel of this anime series? |
Oct 21, 2016 11:30 PM
#127
the dark side of being a mahou shoujo omg |
Oct 22, 2016 4:53 AM
#128
After watching this eps im sure La Pucelle & that queen girl will die. Dangan Ronpa duh... someone who close to MC first is most likely will die. |
Oct 22, 2016 7:56 AM
#129
LOOOOL dat semi trap boi got a GIANT SWORD what they gonna do against it XD |
Oct 22, 2016 9:39 AM
#130
I wonder if the girls will be fighting each other like in Mai-HiME. Love the show! ♥ |
Oct 22, 2016 11:23 AM
#131
I hope to see Ripple ripping someone apart soon. *laughs* |
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Oct 22, 2016 5:24 PM
#132
Oct 23, 2016 11:22 AM
#133
I'm really liking the character interactions here. We've got Top Speed and Ruler, who used to be friends ...? :P Then of course Ruler's entire group - Swim seems awfully dedicated, the twins and Tama not so much (btw, love the twins concept with them each being "half" of an angel! :P), but it seems like Ruler just wants to make sure nobody in their group drops out. What are these Magicaloids? One goes to "side with" Calamity Mary? Then we have Winter and Nana ... hmm. Not to mention La Pucelle kneeling down to Snow White as her knight ... aww how adorable :3 Well anyway, so everyone finds out they can die! Not to mention being able to transfer candies ... initially I thought that means you can help prevent your friends from dropping out, which is what I thought Ruler's group would do (Hey Snow white, we don't have many candies can you give some to us?) but it seems like they're planning on stealing all of them from her instead? I wonder what their plan is? :O I wonder how the whole transfer thing even works, since you don't even need your device to be on for it to work ... |
Oct 23, 2016 1:06 PM
#134
>YuuYuuYuu has no relationship of any sort with Madoka. lmao ok whatever. |
Oct 23, 2016 5:53 PM
#135
Don't worry, with the novel-prequel that complements the anime (and was supposed to be read together with the anime) of YuuYuuYuu being adapted, you'll be able to understand how wrong you are without having to read a small little book. How's that, life is easy sometimes, isn't it ;). |
Oct 28, 2016 12:53 PM
#136
Eh, Top Speed's silhouette looks like pregnant woman. |
Oct 29, 2016 11:17 AM
#137
I kept hoping one of those Magical Girls would ask WHY that tadpole is killing them off |
Nov 15, 2016 9:00 AM
#138
That was obvious.. what else other than death ? They're trying to pull something crazy I see.. wonder how it'll turn out. |
Dec 13, 2016 7:23 PM
#139
Kind of a let down episode. I get that they were setting things up for major stuff yet to come, but it really bored me. I hope they raise the intensity level up and keep it there from this point forward. |
Jan 11, 2017 2:43 AM
#140
This episode was slow, if anything we learn that Ruler is a bitch |
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Jan 21, 2017 7:40 PM
#141
It was fun while it last but now shit is finally about to get real and as expected, the moment the survival game aspect gets introduced, the characters starts showing their repulsive side. I'll be pissed if they kill off Top Speed, so far I love everything about her. Fav is slowly reaching Monokuma level of assholery. |
Jan 25, 2017 9:28 PM
#142
so, it has begun. sigh. |
Mar 13, 2017 7:23 AM
#143
Ruler sure is an abhorrent person. And that she got that treatment on her workplace, is her own fault. Now they can trade, meaning steal, magical candies. It's no surprise, that Snow White is targeted. |
May 19, 2017 8:52 AM
#144
So death is confirmed, and now you can steal candies from each other. So yeah you can totally indirectly kill someone by stealing their candies, but if you kill them as magical girls...can you take their candies that way? Also if someone is killed in the one week period, does the lowest candy-earner also drop out??? This show is making me anxious O_o |
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Aug 29, 2017 4:49 PM
#145
May 5, 2019 6:51 AM
#146
God, the Peaky Angels are more annoying here than in the book. I can't wait for them to die, lol. |
Apr 14, 2021 3:48 AM
#147
this makes Snow White my most hated magical girl in this show. Ok, someone is dead.. it's sad and scary. However, this person who died is just only acquaintance of a few weeks.. no need to carry an emotional baggage and saying something stupid like not wanting to gather candies anymore. And I suspect Snow White would follow the goody goody magical girl way of not wanting to fight other magical girls -- I have a sad feeling she will get Souta hurt or killed at some point in this anime for protecting her, because she does not want to fight. |
Jun 23, 2021 3:15 PM
#148
So, the cruel truth of the game is revealed and now it's time to steal some Candies Things are going to get violent. |
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Jan 6, 2023 9:24 AM
#149
this show is the gift that keeps on giving another solid episode that finishes the ruler arc in a satisfying last note |
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