Overlord (light novel)
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| Something about Clementine just annoys the hell out of me. Not sure if it's her face, her voice or both. |
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| Heh, Albedo made herself a dakimakura of Ainz. Liking Clementine a lot. And Aoi Yuuki being her VA is a definite plus. I just adore her voice. |
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| I really hope there will be sequel for this shows. Hope the bluray/dvd sell well. |
But it's important to remember that a movie review is subjective;it only gives you one person's opinion. http://www.classzone.com/books/lnetwork_gr08/page_build.cfm?content=analyz_media&ch=30 It doesn't matter if you like LoGH,Monster etc.If you are a jobless or college/school dropout living in your mom basement, you are still an unintelligent loser. Taste in anime does not make you a better person.If elitist don't exist, casual pleb and shit taste also don't exist. |
Inugirlz said: how do you have babies with a skeleton though? ... with Ainz boner ;) |
| Another great episode. Thank god they don't censor. Let the shounenfegs qq |
| "QQ slow pacing, need more punchy punchy with no context" Guys, please, return to naruto. Okay? This is an anime that actually explains its world and builds it up. There doesnt need to be a fighting scene every 10 minutes. I noticed how volatile and stupid some of the anime community people are. Everyone hated on SAO for "Not having an explained story, world and having too much fights" When Log Horizon came out everyne loved it because "The story and interactions were build up" . Now Overlord comes out and "Its boring because story and interactions are build up, need to come back to only action" Can you make up your goddamn minds? There are all types of anime. If you dont like slow anme which builds up its world, DONT WATCH IT! Go watch your mindless fighters and be done with it! |
| There is no "Good or "bad" anime. There is only different anime. |
| It's actually skipping a lot of world-buildings, especially in this episode. It should've included more contents. |
| 日本人はイッちゃってるよ あいつら未来に生きてんな |
KyerWiz said: The fact that you call him Skeleton Jesus really reinforce that you're not watching the characterization scenes. This episode showed what an average adventurer group looks like: their interactions, their teamwork, the kind of motivation they have, etc. It also put in context the strength of people like the Head Warrior. Those guys were the average, iron plate adventurers, much stronger than the average human but still nowhere near Momon whom they considered on the level of Gazef. How is that an excuse for his OP-ness? You merely described how strong he is, not justified why it is not making him into an overpowered protagonist who doesn't have any actual challenges awaiting him (thus far) because he is so god damn over powered. I mean it's not the first episode this is evident. The last couple of episodes all have shown just how powerful he is. He was able to instantly kill a person with ease. He created a Skelleton Warrior who killed many soldiers with ease. He withstood an army or Angels and a High Angel as well without any harm and beat them all with one attack. He is totally overpowered on purpose (duh) because the Author wanted to create a cool self insert character who beats anyone in his way and gets all the bitches. KyerWiz said: The "Momon is attractive to women" scene is clearly set-up. Nfirea even says WHY that bothers him. Would you prefer that comes out of nowhere when the relevant scene comes up? Totally ignores all that happened before. The first thing MC does before he turns into a Lich is rewrite Demon Girl so she loves him. But then they also introduce Vampire Loli. Obvious Wish Fulfillment nonsense on the level of SAO (a bit more comical though I have to admit). But it's not just the girls, it's everyone who is totally in awe by him and looks up to him. Now given this fact + the self insert nature of the Protagonist (he doesn't even have a real face or a real history, I am not even sure we know his real name, he basically is a blank slate the Otaku viewership can project into) you have pure fanservice and pandering. KyerWiz said: Overlord makes a point of having real characters with depth in a world with its own history before the MC came along. If all you want are big flashy fights then yeah, it might not be the best serie for you. LOL https://33.media.tumblr.com/f8f066cc83721313253bb3ce12214184/tumblr_nsxfri4fKl1u21ng6o1_540.gif Soo deep characters. Characters are fucking one note. What do you know about Druid Guy huh? What is his motivation, dreams, history etc.? He is as basic as an NPC can get. Big Flashy fights would at least do something interesting. But it isn't even that i need that if anything else would be actually good. |
| I am falling, I am fading, I am drowning, help me to breathe. |
| Great episode, showed good fights and a little more about the relationship of Momonga with old comrades, I thought that the development of the anime would be faster, but I am enjoying quite the adaptation, is quite enjoying the storyline and well exploring the characters, Albedo even with a small scene can highlight, and Nabe also showed some funny scenes, I'm looking forward to the next episode .. |
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ggYeti said: Orsonius said: And I actually stopped reading there XD Pls try harder.How is that an excuse for his OP-ness? I'm kinda tired of people who complain about his OPness. It's justified - he's so powerful because he was max level in Yggdrasil and a member of one of the best guilds there. And this isn't really hard to achieve if you put some time and money in a game like that (and that makes him more like a loser, since he didn't have anything better to do than no-lifing in some game). Besides, the main point of this anime seems to be discovering what is wrong with that world and (maybe) returning to reality, so his kickass asskicking skills don't mean much if he barely knows anything about the world he's in. So, for some reason, he doesn't really smell like a Gary Stu for me. |
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| This was very boring, from action to dialogues. They are in the middle of the course and nothing major has happpened so far. How they want to develop any good plot within 6 episodes? The world building is interesting but they should have cramed it to 3 episodes max and move on to something relevant. 1/5 |
| Between the adult world and the world of kids, there, Holyland exists. |
| I want that pillow O_O |
| Now that's what I call an interesting slow episode. We got to know more about the group of adventurers, & some proper characterization for one of them. And I am pretty sure that one character will die in the near future. The Albedo part at the beginning was kind of unnecessary. It was a bit funny, but felt kind of out of place since the whole episode was not taking place in Nazarick. |
| I like anime. |
| I just love the pacing of this show, but I hope it has more seasons to justify it. MAL community being hillarious as always. Why would a character being OP would make a story bad? What kind of argument is that? The whole fantasy and epic genre was originally inspired by mythology and legends about invincible heroes such as Achilles, Odysseus, Ragnar Lodbrock, Vainamoinen, Arthur, Lancelot, Siegfried, etc. I actually can imagine you reading the Iliad and cursing at how OP Achilles was, or complaining about an asspull by Odysseus. Der Ring des Nibelungen? MC too OP, cmon slayed a dragon alone and got the valkyr to fall in love with him? 1/10, droped. |
| like the person above me said. an "interesting slow episode". that group of adventurers were introduced well. All were interesting. All have shown their personality. it creates a good environment for the hero to play. |
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Exdeath-chan said: ggYeti said: And I actually stopped reading there XD Pls try harder. I'm kinda tired of people who complain about his OPness. It's justified - he's so powerful because he was max level in Yggdrasil and a member of one of the best guilds there. And this isn't really hard to achieve if you put some time and money in a game like that (and that makes him more like a loser, since he didn't have anything better to do than no-lifing in some game). Besides, the main point of this anime seems to be discovering what is wrong with that world and (maybe) returning to reality, so his kickass asskicking skills don't mean much if he barely knows anything about the world he's in. So, for some reason, he doesn't really smell like a Gary Stu for me. To me it seems people view this from a totally wrong perspective. They seem to ignore the fact that there was an actual human behind every decision in this work of literature. (referring to the script/LN) The Author deliberately made the Protagonist super powerful, with all the best items etc. And yet he still throws in these throw away villains which obviously can't stand a chance against the protagonist. The issue I have is not that he has nothing to struggle against, since the focus seems to be more along the line of Log Horizon. However the pandering nature of it all bothers me. Afaik the Author is this guy who loved playing Table Top RPGs (I used to play them too). But then suddenly all his friends got work and lost time so he was alone and to compensate he wrote Overlord. Yet he deliberately chose a story which panders to this wish fulfillment attitude of social outcast nerds > Power > Respect > Sexual Domination (or desirability) > Overcoming challenges without much effort It's a clear reflection of the insecurity of the author and how blatantly he implemented it into his story. The whole trapped inside a game thing is just an excuse to give the Main Character all these hax powers because, as you correctly stated, it is relatively easy to just achieve max level and find all these times if you played the game long enough (the nature of Online RPGs). So the issue is found at the very foundation of the show, meaning it fails before it even begins, unless it can actually do something interesting with it's story. Even superman who is absolutely overpowered has a weakness and a totally different appeal. Not that I am a big fan of Super Man, but at least the idea is not that he is totally powerful and has to overcome challenges which are too easy for him, but that he has to find a way to live like a human despite being super powerful. Overload is the opposite, he wants to act like a monster to appeal to those around him, but it kinda is boring to watch because there are no real challenges (and also the pacing is horribly slow). Overall it is clear to me that this is just a market trick to boost the sales of the LN (which succeeded last time I checked the sales skyrocketed). So what am I even expecting here other than a cheap shot. |
| I am falling, I am fading, I am drowning, help me to breathe. |
| When Demiurge asked Albedo what she was doing in Lord Ains bed I said to myself "Oh you know, just hanging out with my Lord Ains hug pillow." Didn't actually think she'd have a hug pillow lol. The episode itself was pretty good but I can't help but feel that this show would be better as a binge watch than week to week. It'd put it on hold and wait until it's over but I know I'd probably never get back to it so I'll just continue to watch it as it airs. |
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| Albedo is weird man |
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Reyoku said: I wonder how they gonna end this in another 7 episodes.. smells like (hopefully) a fast season 2 :P but nice and slow paced episode they're probably end this at the end of vol.3 they're already adapted 1.5 volume of the LN.. if there's a second season they'll probably adapt another 3 vol. if it's going to be 1 cour... |
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Dextix said: "QQ slow pacing, need more punchy punchy with no context" Guys, please, return to naruto. Okay? This is an anime that actually explains its world and builds it up. There doesnt need to be a fighting scene every 10 minutes. I noticed how volatile and stupid some of the anime community people are. Everyone hated on SAO for "Not having an explained story, world and having too much fights" When Log Horizon came out everyne loved it because "The story and interactions were build up" . Now Overlord comes out and "Its boring because story and interactions are build up, need to come back to only action" Can you make up your goddamn minds? There are all types of anime. If you dont like slow anme which builds up its world, DONT WATCH IT! Go watch your mindless fighters and be done with it! Man, the thing is that this is 1 cour anime. The pacing would be okay (still somewhat slow) if it was 24 ep anime so we have enough time for good worldbuilding as well as plot and character develoment. So far this show has only worldbuilding with only a faint glimmer of mediocre plot with necromancer and rogue girl. I can't see how this season could be interesting. Pacing in novel =/ pacing in anime. I have read a little bit of the novel (couldn't get further cause narration is just horrible) and the part with this group, Swords of Darkness, should have been over within one episode. It's really not interesting or relevant. Yet as it seems, they will drag it and waste another full episode. |
| Between the adult world and the world of kids, there, Holyland exists. |
| the more I think about it.. Albedo reminds me heavily of Jibril from No Game No Life I really hope this gets a second season, I love this show. |
| "This emotion is mine alone. It is for Madoka alone." - Homura or how I would descripe Mahou Shoujo Madoka Magica. |
slovak125 said: Dextix said: snip Man, the thing is that this is 1 cour anime. The pacing would be okay (still somewhat slow) if it was 24 ep anime so we have enough time for good worldbuilding as well as plot and character develoment. So far this show has only worldbuilding with only a faint glimmer of mediocre plot with necromancer and rogue girl. I can't see how this season could be interesting. Pacing in novel =/ pacing in anime. I have read a little bit of the novel (couldn't get further cause narration is just horrible) and the part with this group, Swords of Darkness, should have been over within one episode. It's really not interesting or relevant. Yet as it seems, they will drag it and waste another full episode. And sure enough, the problem with just reading "a little bit" of the novel rears its head. How do you know the SoD aren't relevant? Because Momon's interaction with them and particularly one character directly leads to an event that affects Nazarick. It's a pity the anime is doing a lot of buildup that anime only watchers won't ever get the payoff from but it doesn't mean the scenes themselves are irrelevant |
Dextix said: "QQ slow pacing, need more punchy punchy with no context" Guys, please, return to naruto. Okay? This is an anime that actually explains its world and builds it up. There doesnt need to be a fighting scene every 10 minutes. I noticed how volatile and stupid some of the anime community people are. Everyone hated on SAO for "Not having an explained story, world and having too much fights" When Log Horizon came out everyne loved it because "The story and interactions were build up" . Now Overlord comes out and "Its boring because story and interactions are build up, need to come back to only action" Can you make up your goddamn minds? There are all types of anime. If you dont like slow anme which builds up its world, DONT WATCH IT! Go watch your mindless fighters and be done with it! then thank god that i stay away from said community! wait a second... |
Orsonius said: Yet he deliberately chose a story which panders to this wish fulfillment attitude of social outcast nerds.  |
| Pretty sure Ains just wrote "Is in love with Momonga" in her code. What's with all the creepy obsessed shit? Wow, Clementine is an edge lord tier character. I could practically hear all the angsty teens watching this cum in their pants. |
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Objurgo said: Pretty sure Ains just wrote "Is in love with Momonga" in her code. What's with all the creepy obsessed shit? Personalities of NPCs are affected by their creators, we'll see more about them... if season 2 happens. |
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DawnJ said: Objurgo said: Pretty sure Ains just wrote "Is in love with Momonga" in her code. What's with all the creepy obsessed shit? Personalities of NPCs are affected by their creators, we'll see more about them... if season 2 happens. If there isn't a season 2 though, it'll render stuff like that scene and the vamp loli 'wetting her self' in Ains' prescence completely pointless :P |
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Steven15ify said: From all the game anime this one must be my least favourite. The story is waaaaay all over the place, but I give it a point for the body pillow scene. What are you talking about? I don't think the story is all over the place at all. |
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Orsonius said: Exdeath-chan said: I'm kinda tired of people who complain about his OPness. It's justified - he's so powerful because he was max level in Yggdrasil and a member of one of the best guilds there. And this isn't really hard to achieve if you put some time and money in a game like that (and that makes him more like a loser, since he didn't have anything better to do than no-lifing in some game). Besides, the main point of this anime seems to be discovering what is wrong with that world and (maybe) returning to reality, so his kickass asskicking skills don't mean much if he barely knows anything about the world he's in. So, for some reason, he doesn't really smell like a Gary Stu for me. To me it seems people view this from a totally wrong perspective. They seem to ignore the fact that there was an actual human behind every decision in this work of literature. (referring to the script/LN) The Author deliberately made the Protagonist super powerful, with all the best items etc. And yet he still throws in these throw away villains which obviously can't stand a chance against the protagonist. The issue I have is not that he has nothing to struggle against, since the focus seems to be more along the line of Log Horizon. However the pandering nature of it all bothers me. Afaik the Author is this guy who loved playing Table Top RPGs (I used to play them too). But then suddenly all his friends got work and lost time so he was alone and to compensate he wrote Overlord. Yet he deliberately chose a story which panders to this wish fulfillment attitude of social outcast nerds > Power > Respect > Sexual Domination (or desirability) > Overcoming challenges without much effort It's a clear reflection of the insecurity of the author and how blatantly he implemented it into his story. The whole trapped inside a game thing is just an excuse to give the Main Character all these hax powers because, as you correctly stated, it is relatively easy to just achieve max level and find all these times if you played the game long enough (the nature of Online RPGs). So the issue is found at the very foundation of the show, meaning it fails before it even begins, unless it can actually do something interesting with it's story. Even superman who is absolutely overpowered has a weakness and a totally different appeal. Not that I am a big fan of Super Man, but at least the idea is not that he is totally powerful and has to overcome challenges which are too easy for him, but that he has to find a way to live like a human despite being super powerful. Overload is the opposite, he wants to act like a monster to appeal to those around him, but it kinda is boring to watch because there are no real challenges (and also the pacing is horribly slow). Overall it is clear to me that this is just a market trick to boost the sales of the LN (which succeeded last time I checked the sales skyrocketed). So what am I even expecting here other than a cheap shot. What's your problem? The anime is great! I've rewatched some episodes about 3 times now. This anime is very enjoyable and just because you can't stand the part where the MC is the strongest or is supposed to be (I don't know because I havn't read the LN except the first chapter), doesn't mean that you should be so negative about it. If you don't like the anime, why do you even watch it? I mean, by episode 6 you should have dropped this anime if you don't like it that much, yet here you are posting such a negative post about it. |
| Kuroookoooooo-chin! |
Antanaru said: Wait... if he's a full skeleton, how is he supposed to produce offspring? I know there's a lot of space for boner jokes but really, how? Uhm... magic? Probably, shapeshifting. But the kind of mad sorcery that gave birth to owlbears would do the job too. |
Kuro-chin said: What's your problem? The anime is great! I've rewatched some episodes about 3 times now. This anime is very enjoyable and just because you can't stand the part where the MC is the strongest or is supposed to be (I don't know because I havn't read the LN except the first chapter), doesn't mean that you should be so negative about it. If you don't like the anime, why do you even watch it? I mean, by episode 6 you should have dropped this anime if you don't like it that much, yet here you are posting such a negative post about it. Did you google "how to make bad arguments so you never convince anyone" to write this comment? I know this sounds disrespectful but this is like the most common nonsense I read when criticizing anime. First of all no. The anime isn't great. What can be asserted without evidence can be dismissed without evidence. Also the fact that you enjoy it doesn't have any weight on anything but you. Meaning your personal subjective experience does not necessarily follow for anyone else who watches it. Also I not only don't like the OP-ness of the protagonist, I also dislike the one dimensional characters, the incredibly slow pacing, the tensionless plot, and the constant otaku pandering which reduces any amount of seriousness this anime might have. Also the regurgotated premise which is just a cheap way to create a setting and a way to put a character into an "adventure" (aka the trapped in a video game premise). Afaik in the Light novels at least for the next 5 there is not a single villain who is capable of beating Ains. And what do you mean "doesn't mean that you should be so negative about it" Since when am I obligated to be entirely positive. Since when is criticism not allowed? This is an anime discussion forum. All opinions and perspectives should be allowed in. I even point out why I am so negative about it all. >If you don't like the anime, why do you even watch it? This is the most garbage argument ever made in the anime community. Because 1) I need to watch it in order to know if I like it or not 2) because I want to finish it regardless 3) because I am not obligated to like anything 4) because I like to analyze and criticize something 5) because I want to know how it will develop 6) because I want to talk about it with others 7) because an infinite amounts of reasons why I can watch it without liking it > yet here you are posting such a negative post about it. Posting negative post about anime is forbidden. I see thanks for telling me. PS: looking through your anime list >Mean Score: 9.0 so by your standards all anime you've ever seen are basically almost perfect and no anime is below average. See this is why I have a hard time taking the anime community seriously. There is no critical thought present. |
OrsoniusAug 12, 2015 8:12 AM
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| I'm not a fan of rushed plots, but proper time must also be given to the producers of the anime. The blame is on the guy who made the decision to make only 13eps for a history that needs time to develop. I just started reading the LN because of that. I know I will not get enough of Papa Bones this season. |
eslej said: Isn't the anime made to advertise the LN(which is working) and that's why it's only 1 cour?I'm not a fan of rushed plots, but proper time must also be given to the producers of the anime. The blame is on the guy who made the decision to make only 13eps for a history that needs time to develop. I just started reading the LN because of that. I know I will not get enough of Papa Bones this season. |
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Orsonius said: The Author deliberately made the Protagonist super powerful, with all the best items etc. And yet he still throws in these throw away villains which obviously can't stand a chance against the protagonist. He's not even the most powerful in the game he played. I guess you never bougt any items in a game before, ainz has money and he's obsessed with the game, so what? He was transferred to this world which has lower standards, and how do you know these villains are throwaways? you don't even know what this world is capable of, you would die like a fool if you were in ainz's place. |
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Byon-kun said: Yeah, it worked for me. But I would like the anime to go 2 cour when the plot is too big. Personal taste.eslej said: Isn't the anime made to advertise the LN(which is working) and that's why it's only 1 cour?I'm not a fan of rushed plots, but proper time must also be given to the producers of the anime. The blame is on the guy who made the decision to make only 13eps for a history that needs time to develop. I just started reading the LN because of that. I know I will not get enough of Papa Bones this season. |
ichii_1 said: Orsonius said: The Author deliberately made the Protagonist super powerful, with all the best items etc. And yet he still throws in these throw away villains which obviously can't stand a chance against the protagonist. He's not even the most powerful in the game he played. I guess you never bougt any items in a game before, ainz has money and he's obsessed with the game, so what? He was transferred to this world which has lower standards, and how do you know these villains are throwaways? you don't even know what this world is capable of, you would die like a fool if you were in ainz's place. the whole point of ains ooal gown was that all the members needed to have proper social lives and works. |
Orsonius said: Kuro-chin said: What's your problem? The anime is great! I've rewatched some episodes about 3 times now. This anime is very enjoyable and just because you can't stand the part where the MC is the strongest or is supposed to be (I don't know because I havn't read the LN except the first chapter), doesn't mean that you should be so negative about it. If you don't like the anime, why do you even watch it? I mean, by episode 6 you should have dropped this anime if you don't like it that much, yet here you are posting such a negative post about it. Did you google "how to make bad arguments so you never convince anyone" to write this comment? I know this sounds disrespectful but this is like the most common nonsense I read when criticizing anime. First of all no. The anime isn't great. What can be asserted without evidence can be dismissed without evidence. Also the fact that you enjoy it doesn't have any weight on anything but you. Meaning your personal subjective experience does not necessarily follow for anyone else who watches it. Also I not only don't like the OP-ness of the protagonist, I also dislike the one dimensional characters, the incredibly slow pacing, the tensionless plot, and the constant otaku pandering which reduces any amount of seriousness this anime might have. Also the regurgotated premise which is just a cheap way to create a setting and a way to put a character into an "adventure" (aka the trapped in a video game premise). Afaik in the Light novels at least for the next 5 there is not a single villain who is capable of beating Ains. And what do you mean "doesn't mean that you should be so negative about it" Since when am I obligated to be entirely positive. Since when is criticism not allowed? This is an anime discussion forum. All opinions and perspectives should be allowed in. I even point out why I am so negative about it all. >If you don't like the anime, why do you even watch it? This is the most garbage argument ever made in the anime community. Because 1) I need to watch it in order to know if I like it or not 2) because I want to finish it regardless 3) because I am not obligated to like anything 4) because I like to analyze and criticize something 5) because I want to know how it will develop 6) because I want to talk about it with others 7) because an infinite amounts of reasons why I can watch it without liking it > yet here you are posting such a negative post about it. Posting negative post about anime is forbidden. I see thanks for telling me. PS: looking through your anime list >Mean Score: 9.0 so by your standards all anime you've ever seen are basically almost perfect and no anime is below average. See this is why I have a hard time taking the anime community seriously. There is no critical thought present. Im just going to throw my two centws into this. Look. I undersstand, you dont like the anime, but you dont need to go bashing it. I know, i know " Posting negative comments about anime is forbidden" . But look. Right now, i can easily find a refutation for every one of your critical argument. But this wont help anything because we wont ccomvince each other. When i go to shit, i dont tell everyone how good or bad i shat, alright? You dont like this? Good for you. But no need to go critisising it. There is no point. Whats the point of that? You wont convince those who dont like this anime, and neither will you convince people who dont like this anime to not like it more. You are a part of this anime community, you like it or not. But there is no "critical thought" and there ccan be neve "critical thought" when you discuss about anime. Absolutely evverything, and i mean everything about an anime is subjective. There is no good or bad anime. You can check how i rate my anime. Secret. I dont rate them at all. All it comes down to is if you enjoy it or not. And if you dont, then you dont, if you do, you do. |
| There is no "Good or "bad" anime. There is only different anime. |
>Mean Score: 9.0 so by your standards all anime you've ever seen are basically almost perfect and no anime is below average. See this is why I have a hard time taking the anime community seriously. There is no critical thought present. Criticizing a series with a idiotic main argument like 'MC is too OP' doesen't make you look like you have the most developed critical thinking, to be honest. Rating stuff badly for the wrong reasons is as bad as blindly giving 9s and 10s, and there are many people in both sides here at MAL. Anyway, about the anime itself, apart from the "MC is too OP" bs, your other complaints are somewhat legitimate (except for the slow pacing, if we ever have a follow up, people need to chill and learn that not everything has to be fast paced if there's payoff). However those flaws only show that this is, obviously, not a perfect series, yet it's still objectivelly far from bad, at least amongst anime standards. |
orangpelupa said: I wonder why everyone speaking the magic name ecerytime they use it. Light heal... Instead of, "hold still, I'll heal you". In my limited MMO gaming (mainly destiny) I don't remember my character yells their skill. No offense, butt Destiny shouldnt even be considered a real Mmorpg. And the answer is that the writer (If im not mistaken) is a huge fan of Dungeons and Dragons. And some of the spell names and their usage was just like that. |
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Dextix said: But no need to go critisising it. So what are you advocating? That we all just circle jerk over the anime how good it is and anyone who doesn't agree shouldn't speak his or her mind since then people who like the anime would have to face elements they might have to examine? See your argument that I cannot convince a single person is wrong, as I myself have been convinced in the past by criticism. Also it is to exchange and learn. If all you hear is praise and not critique then you will never learn. Putting people out of their comfort zone is an obligation of everyone of us. >And the answer is that the writer (If im not mistaken) is a huge fan of Dungeons and Dragons. And some of the spell names and their usage was just like that. I know that. I actually researched this anime a bit. ggYeti said: So....the same can be said about you right now.Basically your "subjective" opinion> his "inferior" opinion right? and the best part is your so called "evidence" and masked "critisizing". No. I said the anime is bad BECAUSE reasons. He said the anime is great because... no arguments put forth. So I can simply dismiss his assertion. ggYeti said: Like srsly? :D attacking somoenes list all of a sudden with your superior taste?. Pls dont get me started on Monogatari's Otaku Pondering and so called "Wish Fulfillment nonsense" you love so much. My mean score: Mean Score: 5.6 (almost 5.5 thus almost perfectly in the middle of 1-10) I actually am capable of criticizing anime and not overrating everything. Actually Monogatari isn't my favorite anime. I simply wanted only monogatari on my profile. You can look through my list. I give exactly one 10/10 and only sever 9/10 of which three are movies. and none is a monogatari anime. Those are in the 8 and 7s. I also have no issue with people giving their favorite anime a 10/10. But I have an issue with people trying to argue with me about the quality of an anime, but are themselves evidently incapable of critical analysis and thus out of my league. I know this sounds kinda elitist. But if you honestly can't even give any anime a score below 6 that you watched, I doubt you actually understand the meaning of average and perfect. If 9 is the average you dilute your perfect score simply by overrating everything you watched. A 10 then is meaningless ggYeti said: Then what on earth are you doing here? Actually good question. I did start this conversation on hummingbird and reddit as well. And to be honest MAL is not the worst community (reddit is). Hummingbird is much more critical of anime though. |
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| Look orso, i am not in a mood for strawmen. That was not what i was saying at all. At least for me, these episode discussions should be discussions about episode and its hqappensings, not how good/bad it was. Anime Critique is really complicated, beccause its always subjective. At least for me, these forums are used wrong. We shouldnt be judging anime here, we should be talking about what happened in there, craft theories, have banter. And about "learning". look. People have been trying to "Teach" me that half of the anime in my list is shit and doesnt deserve to be watched. Critique is so subjectictive, that it cant "teach" anything im afraid, it always comes down to our individual preferences. The D&D part was for the other person. And the last part. I suggest you stop trying to fight people over scoring and things like that. These are just ad hominem attacks. Just because someone scores anime highly doesnt mean he hass no critical thought, and just because someone scores anime low doesnt mean he is critical. I for one refuse to judge anime based on these scores. Because you just cannot give a score to such a subjective thing and then rub it in someone elses face. Again, im not saying that critique or praise should be forbidden, but this, isnt the place, and it shouldnt be. |
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