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May 16, 2015 9:22 AM

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Zefyris said:
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^This. If it wasn't for the Minotaur bit, I would have dropped it on this episode. This is just becoming typical harem. Instead of the the creators making explanations for why that guy is training that Minotaur or at least who the heck he is. We get tons of moments of the MC acting like a wuss.


Are you for real... You're approving the post above complaining about the author, but you do it for reasons that don't have anything to do with the author, since it's the anime who is removing anything else >_<. How do you think that LN readers know the reason he's training the minotaurus and who he is for example heh? -_-"

@L-Ryoshi not yet, I've ordered the first volume of it together with volume 6-7 of the main series, but they aren't arrived yet.
Also, when you're going to give a spoiler, please write above what is going to be spoiled (example : "spoiler LN volume 6") because people like me who are further away than others yet haven't read yet all the material don't know if they're going to be spoiled by opening the spoiler tags or not. GEtting spoiled on that manner is always a bit annoying, although Danmachi doesn't have enough complexity in his plot for really annoying me there. If that was a Ln I care about, would have disliked that though.


Noted for future reference. Though it's not really that much of a spoiler, if you read up on the Sword Oratoria manga that's already been translated.

All I'm trying to do here is to add some perspective to what's been shown in the anime, by adding things that appeared in the LN, that I'm pretty sure won't be added to the anime itself.

Unlike yourself admittedly, I do enjoy and care about this series and don't really mind doing my part in promoting it to those who either don't understand the story fully, or don't enjoy it as much as I do. Also, the things I don't put in spoilers are essentially things that happened in the same time frame of the current episode, which I suspect they won't come back to (and thus require more of an explanation). The varying view I had with you regarding Aiz feelings was one such item, because it relates to the events that happened in the current episode. For things that will be explained in the coming episodes, I'd either add the tag, or not even talk about it. Like the issue with Ottarl and the minotaur, as well as the scene after the ED, I'm assuming that they'll get back to it next episode, since it'd be irresponsible of the director not to. If they fail to do so, then I might have spoken up next episode (though some of us here have already explained it).

I know you mean well, mate. Just saying what I had to since I don't really see them adapting much of the Aiz-side storyline.
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May 16, 2015 9:44 AM

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Aiz is more stupid than I would have thought... Or maybe she's just pretending?! Well, that's still stupid, so.

Hestia are still funny. Bell is really a pussy magnet, literally with Arde ( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°)
Well, not really literally since those ears and tail are fake. CURSE YOU FOR BREAKING MY DREAMS!!

That other familia seem to be experimenting things on monsters. They can ''level up'' or what seem to be like that. In any case, I guess they'll defeat him with the help of Aiz and other people like Bell, etc.
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May 16, 2015 10:18 AM

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L-Ryoshi said:
Just cause I forgot to in the previous post:

The Usagi pokes fun at other animals...


Loli Wars

Hestia attacks first ("My bell-kun has Dat Ass")

Lili retaliates

Aaand Bell runs off....



Aiz takes "Kiss my Ass" to brave new heights.

Then there's Bell's reaction...


Bell and his relentless training.... to be kicked...


Bell and the never-ending lap pillow awakening...


Aiz loves Croquettes... for reals...


Hestia prefers to feed Bell "Meat Buns"...



And who could forget this woman?

Such nice gifs. Dem moments with Lili and Hestia.
At least now Bell is making some progress with Aiz. That "kiss my ass" scene though... what a random somersault there.

Really happy to see those guys from the previous ep get their just desserts. That minotaur just did a job advancement.
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May 16, 2015 10:47 AM

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Knocked out several times as well as waking up in her lap several times. That actually was the best part for me.
I'm so curious about that guy who was kinda training the Minotaur. What was his actual goal of doing that? Pretty bizarre of him.
May 16, 2015 10:48 AM

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Aiz is love
the first 6 minutes were meh, with the lily+hestia part :v
the minotaur training was cool
let's see how that develops
May 16, 2015 11:18 AM

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L-Ryoshi said:
Just cause I forgot to in the previous post:

The Usagi pokes fun at other animals...


Loli Wars

Hestia attacks first ("My bell-kun has Dat Ass")

Lili retaliates

Aaand Bell runs off....



Aiz takes "Kiss my Ass" to brave new heights.

Then there's Bell's reaction...


Bell and his relentless training.... to be kicked...


Bell and the never-ending lap pillow awakening...


Aiz loves Croquettes... for reals...


Hestia prefers to feed Bell "Meat Buns"...



And who could forget this woman?

Nice!!
Love this episode. Finally Bell-kun talked to Aiz and trained by her. Aiz looks pretty dumb, I guess. But she adorable!
May 16, 2015 11:28 AM

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( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°)

I bet the dude who was sparring with the minotaur is a beastmaster.



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May 16, 2015 11:37 AM
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I like Aix finally. I started to appreciate her once she started being something other than a piece of cardboard being molested by Loki.
That last line sell it for me though.
Bell, lying on the ground after getting kicked unconscious by embarassed jealous Hestia.
Aiz leans over: "You got a good goddess, I like her."
Finally Bell can at least be within eyeshot of her without running away screaming like a little bitch. He's such a little bitch, for the love of god grow a pair man!
She's just a girl, she's harmless...other than her tendency to forget her own strength and knock him senseless ever time she so much as twitches wrong.
Hestia's a diety and he isn't afraid of her.
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May 16, 2015 12:40 PM

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Ais on her way to become best girl. Nice episode.
May 16, 2015 1:41 PM
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how the fuk does lili carry around that giant backpack
wtf is even inside of it
May 16, 2015 1:59 PM

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I wonder how many brain cells Bell lost

That dude trained monster but why ?
May 16, 2015 2:06 PM

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Mroujeee said:
I wonder how many brain cells Bell lost


Half of them, I guess. So, two.

That dude trained monster but why ?


Remember what Freya talked to him about in the beginning of the last episode? That Bell still had a blemish to overcome. Think back at what this blemish was (beginning of ep1), and you should be able to figure it out.
May 16, 2015 2:50 PM

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Finally the Aiz episode I've been waiting for. Nothing says love like beating the absolute shit outta someone.

Lili is now Bell's permanant partner, great she is a cool character

That Minotaur was trained by a guy to be stronger? That's not good....
May 16, 2015 4:50 PM

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I would pick Lili. I still love Hestia and Aiz.
May 16, 2015 6:44 PM

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Accelevi said:
how the fuk does lili carry around that giant backpack
wtf is even inside of it


Support.
きみ は だれ だい?
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ぼく は だれ だい?
きみ は ラムボ!
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May 16, 2015 6:49 PM

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Aiz is the girl.
May 16, 2015 6:52 PM

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HaXXspetten said:
Harem mode on
Indeed. Also hella face kicks:o
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May 16, 2015 6:54 PM

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Kitoge said:
Aiz is the girl.


Not Bell? Crap I've been wrong this whole time D:
May 16, 2015 7:10 PM

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Ani-Blast said:
Accelevi said:
how the fuk does lili carry around that giant backpack
wtf is even inside of it


Support.

Lili has a skill very useful for a supporter which activates when she carries something heavy, giving her additional strength.
So her bag actually trigger it, meaning that she has no problems carrying it around.
That's something that should have been already explained but was left out in the anime, just like 75% of the explanations anyway.
This LN is actually quite logical, so if they are things that seems illogical when watching the anime version, it's probably just scenes or explanations that were removed.

@L-Ryoshi Well I also find this LN enjoyable, simply, I do not think it's good either. If I thought it was bad, I would buy the new volumes and would just drop it. I appreciate the fact that the plot is simple but solid, as there is no real plot hole or illogical things/behaviour in it.
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@Zefyris Totally agree. I think its the simple, yet solid plot with very few unreasonable plot holes that attracts me to this series. The dungeon adventures are all quite intense at times and the interactions between the characters never appears forced. The entire series flows quite naturally. As someone who hasn't read a novel in a while, it was really easy to pick up and enjoy.
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May 16, 2015 9:02 PM

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ugh, I cringed for the most part of this episode. The dispute over bell at the beginning, bell screaming like a little girl because he is nervous to meet Aiz and hestia nonsense jumping on bell's face. This is SAO all over again... can't we have more actual plot and character development instead of this harem shit? What saved the ep was bell training with Aiz and the minotaur part.

Somebody please tell me this looks less like a harem in the light novel.
May 16, 2015 9:58 PM

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Poor Hestia...

All these HOES all over bell!
May 16, 2015 11:19 PM

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I wanna know more about Bell's grandfather, he almost Bell into a pervert XD
May 17, 2015 12:21 AM
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Hey guys, I was wondering what her name really is because everywhere I go I see it as Ais, Aiz, or Aizu. Can someone tell me what the sword princess's actual name is?
May 17, 2015 12:28 AM

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DRossweisse said:
Hey guys, I was wondering what her name really is because everywhere I go I see it as Ais, Aiz, or Aizu. Can someone tell me what the sword princess's actual name is?
I have only ever seen Aiz so just go with that.
May 17, 2015 2:20 AM

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Ah, Hestia doing it ala Kurumu Kurono. XD

Seriously, Bell, free lap pillow from Aiz.... Smh just enjoy it. :)
May 17, 2015 3:11 AM

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The buildup with that minotaur! We will get probably a Bell vs Minotaur and Auz will be there too!
What I think is they will pull of a Kirito vs Gleam Eyes fight or something like that. Aiz is love Aiz is life <3 can't wait for next week!!
May 17, 2015 3:17 AM

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Sokah said:
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Harem mode on

"Why am I being so bold?", well I think she only has herself to blame :>


Sadly it's the worst type of harem mode. The worthless sack of poop in the center harem mode. The guy is so dumb and bashful he doesn't make a believable character as he wouldn't be able to function at life. Somehow every woman is amazing, unattached and willing to throw themselves at this sack of poop despite all the alpha men walking around. And this is why people think anime are kids shows... because by and large they are.


Lol "alpha men". Like who? One of those random muscle heads beating up on little girls? Bell is kind hearted, righteous and presumably rather attractive. Stronger than you're average guy by now too. I'd prefer he be a little more ruthless at times, but then I'm a viewer and not an anime girl.

And thank God he didn't plant on Ais when she was sleeping, would have been creepy as fuck and likely extremely awkward.
May 17, 2015 3:49 AM

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jiyoan said:
ugh, I cringed for the most part of this episode. The dispute over bell at the beginning, bell screaming like a little girl because he is nervous to meet Aiz and hestia nonsense jumping on bell's face. This is SAO all over again... can't we have more actual plot and character development instead of this harem shit? What saved the ep was bell training with Aiz and the minotaur part.

Somebody please tell me this looks less like a harem in the light novel.


Exactly. I just want to have a anime like that focuses more on the actual plot, the dungeon, the adventures, the fighting, the items and equipment, the character interaction and development... Why can't I have that?

Every f**king time we instead get your typical brainless main character who wouldn't realise a girl likes him even if they spell it out for him (and ironcally enough they even do that!) and has almost every remotely interesting girl fall for him even though he has the personality of a blank piece of paper with the word "STEREOTYPE" written on it and reacts to each situation like a badly programmed NPC who can only do two things and occassionally walks into a wall until somebody either puts a door there or takes it out entirely for him to progess.

It's like a anime like this can't get produced if the actual theme and story of it isn't secondary to harem and fanservice.
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DancingJack said:
jiyoan said:
ugh, I cringed for the most part of this episode. The dispute over bell at the beginning, bell screaming like a little girl because he is nervous to meet Aiz and hestia nonsense jumping on bell's face. This is SAO all over again... can't we have more actual plot and character development instead of this harem shit? What saved the ep was bell training with Aiz and the minotaur part.

Somebody please tell me this looks less like a harem in the light novel.


Exactly. I just want to have a anime like that focuses more on the actual plot, the dungeon, the adventures, the fighting, the items and equipment, the character interaction and development... Why can't I have that?

Every f**king time we instead get your typical brainless main character who wouldn't realise a girl likes him even if they spell it out for him (and ironcally enough they even do that!) and has almost every remotely interesting girl fall for him even though he has the personality of a blank piece of paper with the word "STEREOTYPE" written on it and reacts to each situation like a badly programmed NPC who can only do two things and occassionally walks into a wall until somebody either puts a door there or takes it out entirely for him to progess.

It's like a anime like this can't get produced if the actual theme and story of it isn't secondary to harem and fanservice.


This looks less like a harem in the LN simply by the sheer fact that we have far more content to read outside of the harem scenes than the anime, due to them being cut out in the adaptation. far more dungeon crawling scenes, far more dialogues about dungeon mechanisms, about the city they live in and its circumstances, about the surrounding, and so on.
Now, the harem component is still clearly here, just not as invasive.

If you want a setting with a "real dungeon full of demons beneath a city " with RPG elements in "real world", yet don't want harem setting, your best try is to go with Yuusha, aruiwa bakemono to yobareta shoujo, which is a wonderful LN with a similar setting but no romance at all (all the main characters are female adventurers)

Unfortunately, that kind of LN usually doesn't get adaptation, even though there would be enough content (since books are longer than normal) of it to fit a one cour season, because well. No ecchi, no harem. MC is a OreTuee though, so all hope isn't lost... maybe....

EDIT: now that I'm thinking about it, there's probably Sword Oratoria too. It's Danmachi's spin off with Ais as the main character. Which means no harem around the MC, and I've heard it's far more focused on dungeon crawling. Haven't read that one yet, and probably not as good as the first one I listed, but that's a good option too. No anime adaptation either though.
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An okay episode with bit of funny scenes though I'm really not sure if I like Hestia in her jealous mode.

And if Aiz should be complete non-character, then I guess job good done.
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Thoughts on ep7: http://www.almostmainstream.net/articles/anime/is-it-wrong-to-try-to-pick-up-girls-in-a-dungeon-episode-7-impressions/ (sarcasm and criticism doesn't equate to disdain)

Summary: Aiz is rather dull

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While Hestia and Lili are fighting over Bell, Aiz is taking her turn.
Meanwhile, some guy is Minotaur training, which is pretty cool.
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May 17, 2015 9:48 AM

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It was a decent episode enjoyed the action while it lasted.
May 17, 2015 11:28 AM

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Smudy said:
Lili > Aiz > Hestia


This.

Zadion said:


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And this.

A really funny episode. I choked on my asain rice, D:
May 17, 2015 6:00 PM

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Nice that Aiz gets some time, I just hope there will be more to her than this, even though I do like her already.

Hestia Always great!

Not very much happened this episode though.
May 18, 2015 1:41 AM

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Lili looked too cute in this episode omg.

Aiz is really beating the training into Bell. He's learning quick though. The scream everytime he wakes up from being knocked out was hilarious.

Thankfully Lili won't have to worry about the scumbags who were exploiting her. They got what was coming to them.
May 18, 2015 4:47 AM

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Chick magnet

May 18, 2015 12:43 PM

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Nice to see Aiz get a bit more time on the screen, though she's still pretty mysterious. Still my favorite though. Bell is a pretty likable MC for the most part too. Only real problem i've had so far is how easily he forgave Lili last episode. She literally sets him up and leaves him for dead, and Bell's like "Aw, that's all right. No harm, no foul." Anyway, I hope i see more Bell x Aiz in the future.
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I love Bell's reactions to Aiz. Those screams, the rolling...it's just too funny. xD
Holly that minotaur is very scary. I'm kindda curious to why the adventurer enticed the minotaur.
May 18, 2015 5:23 PM

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More Aiz.

We can always use more Aiz!
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May 18, 2015 7:23 PM

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Aiz saved this anime from getting dropped. She is at least amusing and this episode made me laugh.
May 18, 2015 11:09 PM

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Oh my God. lol I've seen too much Rule 34 to misunderstand this....



lol bringing a girl to a lonesome place... Bell is going to be a man.
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May 19, 2015 8:28 AM

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I also want a training like that with my crush.
We'll see who trains better on the next ep; Aiz or the Minotaur dude.
May 19, 2015 5:22 PM

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That guy fucking flexed and broke a minotaur's horn
May 19, 2015 7:02 PM
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Lol. One thing that messes me up, is remembering that Bell's VA also VAs Bimii, that cat fairy flying thing.
May 19, 2015 7:47 PM

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Aiz actually has fans? She's pretty much cardboard. She can't be best girl cause I can't call her her anything. Until she actually gets a character instead of "uber badass female with blandness" She's dull and we have no reason as to why she likes him or vice versa except "oh my godz she strong" it wouldnt have been so bad if Bell didn't risk his life numerous times just to get to a woman's level.. Said woman who he knows nothing about and no chemistry but some Aiz x Bell fan will try their hardest to make it seem that way

Hestia is great when she isn't overly jealous which only happened once..Her talk with Lili was pretty good and hopefully we continue to see that side of her. Lili is good no problems with her. Bell is an embarrassment on all fronts

Unfortunately this show is getting worse and worse. Like SAO 3.0
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Peak Aiz episode, goodbye best girl.
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A perfect episode for Aiz and Bell.
10/5!


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Nice focus on training, with Bell and Aiz, and the adventurer and the minotaur. Who is this man ? Is it the man that Aiz wants to caught up ?
Good action in this episode.
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