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KiMarou said: unless it's twincestVGFACTCHECKER said: They aren't twins, sorry to shatter your dreams. Wincest doesn't have anything to do with twins. |
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| This pedophile scenes was disturbing but also the shower scene with is sister, catch me by surprise wasnt visual Yuuji as the silent/thinking type well with such a messed up past....... overall they did a nice job set things up to the upcoming story to bad we get nothing about what happend after Asako find/save him. 7/10 |
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| This was way better than I expected it would. Liked it more than the entirety of the first season. 7/10 with Kajitsu being a 6/10. |
| that cleared up a lot of CGs that asked from some of MAL forums... I thought it was his sister whos sitting on Olso's lap... but the fact that he was molested by a dude... mortified me a bit... well that's past... the incest was good... his sister was hot..., and come to think of it I really feel sorry for him for having such a lousy father... I thought this was going to be at least a few episode... of showing how his master brought him up after the whole ordeal this episode... oh well... it was a short ride but... I'll be looking forward to the sequel... :) 10/10 |
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| Watching this actually gave me a glimmer of hope for Rakuen. Amazingly done. 9/10 |
| Holy shit, that was so fucked up. Seeing how Yuuji endures it all and doesn't break down completely is hard stuff... Great appetizer for the next season, I can hardly wait! |
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julyan said: Tekakurika said: Wow poor Yuuji.... Its rly weird that the isn't traumatized even a bit I think most ppl with this kind of life experience would live for the rest of their lives curled up in a ball somewhere in the dark corner, but it feels that he isn't bothered even a bit o_O He was traumatized but managed to overcome those shit when he started to live with Asako... which was implied in Kajitsu. You'll see more of it in Rakuen, I hope. Yea, but i mean in meantime when he had to suffer from all of that he didn't show any emotions only from time to time just a little bit but always looked just too serious or like he didn't care... At least that's how it looks for me |
| Well this was really good! Haven't read this visual novel since it isn't translated but this really impressed me. 8/10 |
llcruzMay 3, 2015 3:17 PM
| Wow, that's a pretty awful past ! So : - A perverse sister (even if she wasn't that bad) - A family who looked down on him, - The dead of sister - An alcoholic father who tried to rape and strangle his mother - He killed his father - A mother who committed suicide, - A guardian who travesty him and molest.= - A war school where he was bullied and asked to kill his only friend, who died after being graduate, - And until now he was a soldier. That's harsh. |
RodrigoL said: is it just one ep?? Yes it is but the story itself will continue next ep. |
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| Not a bad adaptation. pretty much covered all the important points in the VN. Though I kind of wanted them to follow the VN's setting of Yuuji's converstaion with JB along side with the 5 girls at Mihama looking at the reproduced report. I just enjoyed their reactions in the VN and wanted to see it on the screen, and also that Michiru freak out. BUt still a really solid adaptation, much better than the Kajitsu adaptation. Hoping for something amazing from Rakuen, since i did not read that. JAPANESE IS HARD |
| Yuuji's childhood was sure horrific, trouble after trouble, never got relief. I'm sure Kazuki is alive btw. |
| Only if they don't censored the bath scene. |
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| Wow excellent episode, was finally showing the past Yuuji, with very focus on Kazuki also, I really like her personality, even more acting showing more his personality brocon, I think she is responsible for the current personality Yuuji be this way All the girls of the academy did not have good past, but the Yuuji is the worst of all, from the beginning his family was distorted and no matter where he was taken always would fall in disgrace The episode served as a prediction of what will happen during the season and being now in the focus of the problems, I want to see how is the attitude of Yuuji and of the girls, I'm excited and with high expectations for the anime .. |
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| This episode shows the dark past of Yuuji, which makes it what it is. Each series of the anime is quite intriguing because its filled with puzzles. The past of each hearoine into something interesting. Can't wait for the third story of this trilogy series. |
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| Grisaia should get a re-cut release with episodes 4-9 from Kajitsu surgically removed. Such a damn shame, this whole mess. Meikyuu and Rakuen can be as perfectly adapted as they want but they already kneecapped themselves with the horrible directing of Kajitsu. |
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| Crap, I didn't expect Meikyuu to be this good. I never played beyond Kajitsu and so I didn't know there was a story centered around Yuuji, what a missed opportunity. And I who absolutely cherish MC-centered story... |
| Missing the times of Rewrite, good times. |
| Nice episode, and to some extent was enlightening about the Yuuji's past. Somewhat obscure and dramatic. |
| I expected Meikyuu to be miles better than the god awful piss Kajitsu adaption, but i didnt expect it to get so much hype. Even the VN(only Meikyuu) doesnt deserve a 8/10 imo. I will watch it later, but it seems watchable so far and without a pissin' fetish this time(hopefully). Cant wait for the Open Fire chapter in Rakuen, which will decide if watchin' this adaption is worth it to have survived Kajitsu adaption. |
sanleiApr 14, 2015 6:27 AM
| Holy wow... that was intense. Having not read the Meikyuu VN, this adaptation came as a surprise. I mean, some of the stuff I already knew from Kajitsu, mainly from Makina's and Sachi's path, but I had no idea about others and the details were still very interesting. I have to say, I didn't expect it to be this heavy, it wasn't graphically violent it was just... depressing. Yuuji did indeed went through Hell and back, and he somehow stayed relatively sane, all thanks to the one person he seems to revere as his god - Asako. I can't believe the girls just decided to read about Yuuji's past, though, what the hell was up with that? Leave aside the fact that he wouldn't want his past to be revealed, given how he's a student at Mihama just like the rest of them, but in the Kajitsu novel he always refused of just reading up on the girls' past unlesss absolutely necessary. Bunch of busybodies... Anyway, this had me glued to the screen, and I really didn't notice the ~50 minutes flying by. Since I haven't read Meikyuu I don't know how good of an adaptation it is, so for now, I'll settle with this score: 8/10 |
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| Ive seen it now. Did they fire the Kajitsu staff? I really expected them to show a scared pissin' Chizuru in the first scene, but they presented it normal. Unbelievable. Pacin' is fantastic, even better then i expected and more importantly it is appreciated and right presented unlike Kajitsu. Damn i would like to drop my Kajitsu Score from a 5 to a 4 after seein' how good they could have done it, if they actually cared about it. Welp lets move on: I give it the same score as the Meikyuu VN so 7/10, especially with high credits for the last Tunafish man scene(even if i dont get, y we didnt seen Tunafish man himself again even if we had a glimpse on his anime................... Y are ya doin' this to me 8bit?). It still works as a good setup for Open Fire at least, i will cry again :( I didnt enjoy the Yuuji fanservice though, but at least we didnt get teh H scenes with Asako (yet). I think my initial thought of 3+10 episodes was right, seein' as we still miss some stuff from Meikyuu, which we will probably get it through out of Rakuen. Its still too soon to praise 8bit though, they still have a whole season to piss on us again. |
sanleiApr 14, 2015 1:06 PM
dmasterxd said: Red_Tuesday said: Grisaia should get a re-cut release with episodes 4-9 from Kajitsu surgically removed. Such a damn shame, this whole mess. Meikyuu and Rakuen can be as perfectly adapted as they want but they already kneecapped themselves with the horrible directing of Kajitsu. Not 8 and 9! Honestly those episodes improved upon the VN..... 8 was quite nice, i praised it as the 3rd and last enjoyable episode of Kajitsu. 9 was a failure imo. An improvement would have been the start of her After Story in Meikyuu as an endin' for Makinas chapter instead of the horrible Kajitsu bad endin' Edit: 10-13 deserve a remove too. |
sanleiApr 14, 2015 1:46 PM
| I am sitll not watching it before I get the VN translated...hurry Sekai.... |
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Legal_LatinoApr 14, 2015 4:32 PM
The best anime is the Road to El Dorado |
| Maaaan, Yuuji has one messed up past yo |
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| That was one messed up past know wonder Yuuji turned out like that |
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| I figured he had a pretty bad past but holy shit...that was some pretty fucked up shit right there. Then again, pretty much every character in the series is pretty messed up in their own way :/ |
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| i want more incest 6/10 |
| Oh my...what a freaking messed past Yuuji had, I was thinking how dark and f***ed up his past could be, but this was really a surprise for me. Can't wait for Rakuen now. |
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sanlei said: I give it the same score as the Meikyuu VN so 7/10 I give it a better score than the VN, because they used only the good parts and left out all the dumb shit, plus they actually managed to make Heath Oslo less of a muppet lol. |
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| Honestly, while i was prepared for how stomach turning this would turn out, it was still very difficult to watch, if i didn't know a few things from the VN (basically, the overall third arc, and yuuji's relationship with ayako) i'd probably have to drop this out of how utterly dark it was. That said, those who think this is over, your wrong, this was labeled at the end as the cocoon of caprice 0, next episode is cocoon of caprice 1, and probably will be following what happens after this part of the series, mainly yuuji's time with ayako. |
| That was a twisted past. |
| I though this was second season's first episode until I finished it lol |
 » Escapism. |
Kenchiin said: It kind of is. The story of Meikyuu and Rakuen is more or less one and the same, except with a "to be continued" at the end of MeikyuuI though this was second season's first episode until I finished it lol |
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| Forget girls, I need more Kazuki! |
albertrojas said: sanlei said: 8 was quite nice, i praised it as the 3rd and last enjoyable episode of Kajitsu. 9 was a failure imo. An improvement would have been the start of her After Story in Meikyuu as an endin' for Makinas chapter instead of the horrible Kajitsu bad endin' Edit: 10-13 deserve a remove too. Unfortunately for you guys who hated those parts of Kajitsu, it's pretty much important if we're following the Eden timeline. As I'm sure you're all aware of, Grisaia no Kajitsu is a Visual Novel with Multiple Endings, and as I'm sure for those of you who played the game, there are only 5 routes where Yuuji ends up with one of the 5 girls. Now this is an important aspect of Meikyuu, which can be said to be the 6th, unplayable route, where it assumes Yuuji solves each of the girl's problems but fails to establish a romantic relationship with any of the 5 girls. Obviously this is what the anime adaptation of Grisaia no Kajitsu did. So don't complain if your favorite girl had her route butchered, it had to be done due to budget constraints and to set up the Eden timeline.(Although they probably could have done better if they were given more budget. More budget=more episodes is usually the case) I've seen worse adaptations, Grisaia no Kajitsu is not one of them. It's an above average adaptation in my opinion, as it's never that easy to adapt a VN that has many endings, you either have to go with it like Amagami SS or Yosuga no Sora style, where they rewind it back to a certain episode, and obviously Amagami SS did better than Yosuga no Sora due to having higher budget(more episodes). Or they can do it like Clannad, unifying the many arcs to a single, unified arc that leads to After Story and make the arcs that can't be fully adapted due to romance being a huge factor in those arcs(Tomoyo and Kyou's routes) have an OVA. Grisaia no Kajitsu did the latter one. As some people said, After Story was a lot better than season 1 of Clannad. Mainly the reason for this is because of the fact that it changed some of the routes, similar to what 8-bit did to Grisaia no Kajitsu, but it was a good adaptation nonetheless in my opinion. Do note that Clannad and After Story have 24-25 episodes respectively, while Grisaia only has 13. The number of episodes is an important factor. But hey, you can't ask for everything. 8-bit did what the could in 13 episodes. Besides, it's not over yet, so they may add more backstory to the girls. But don't get your hopes up, I'm just stating the possibility. I'm not sure about this since I haven't read meikyuu VN, but I heard that it wasn't as good as Kajitsu and in Rakuen they ditch the psychological aspect, so I honestly would prefer it if they could do Grisaia well at least. I mean if we take into account that they had 13 episodes for it we can say they did well. But in my opinion it's better to just make Grisaia well and see if it sells instead of doing all the season at once. And I'm curious, what other adaptation are worse? Since I can honestly say this is one of the worst adaptation I saw in ages. |
Thai777 said: Chaos;Head, Majikoi and Umineko come to mind @terrible VN adaptations. DEEN's F/SN is pretty craptastic tooalbertrojas said: Unfortunately for you guys who hated those parts of Kajitsu, it's pretty much important if we're following the Eden timeline. As I'm sure you're all aware of, Grisaia no Kajitsu is a Visual Novel with Multiple Endings, and as I'm sure for those of you who played the game, there are only 5 routes where Yuuji ends up with one of the 5 girls. Now this is an important aspect of Meikyuu, which can be said to be the 6th, unplayable route, where it assumes Yuuji solves each of the girl's problems but fails to establish a romantic relationship with any of the 5 girls. Obviously this is what the anime adaptation of Grisaia no Kajitsu did. So don't complain if your favorite girl had her route butchered, it had to be done due to budget constraints and to set up the Eden timeline.(Although they probably could have done better if they were given more budget. More budget=more episodes is usually the case) I've seen worse adaptations, Grisaia no Kajitsu is not one of them. It's an above average adaptation in my opinion, as it's never that easy to adapt a VN that has many endings, you either have to go with it like Amagami SS or Yosuga no Sora style, where they rewind it back to a certain episode, and obviously Amagami SS did better than Yosuga no Sora due to having higher budget(more episodes). Or they can do it like Clannad, unifying the many arcs to a single, unified arc that leads to After Story and make the arcs that can't be fully adapted due to romance being a huge factor in those arcs(Tomoyo and Kyou's routes) have an OVA. Grisaia no Kajitsu did the latter one. As some people said, After Story was a lot better than season 1 of Clannad. Mainly the reason for this is because of the fact that it changed some of the routes, similar to what 8-bit did to Grisaia no Kajitsu, but it was a good adaptation nonetheless in my opinion. Do note that Clannad and After Story have 24-25 episodes respectively, while Grisaia only has 13. The number of episodes is an important factor. But hey, you can't ask for everything. 8-bit did what the could in 13 episodes. Besides, it's not over yet, so they may add more backstory to the girls. But don't get your hopes up, I'm just stating the possibility. I'm not sure about this since I haven't read meikyuu VN, but I heard that it wasn't as good as Kajitsu and in Rakuen they ditch the psychological aspect, so I honestly would prefer it if they could do Grisaia well at least. I mean if we take into account that they had 13 episodes for it we can say they did well. But in my opinion it's better to just make Grisaia well and see if it sells instead of doing all the season at once. And I'm curious, what other adaptation are worse? Since I can honestly say this is one of the worst adaptation I saw in ages. Anyway yeah Kajitsu would never have been easy to adapt due to how its structured, but you still can't deny the fact that it would have been waaaayyy better had it just had more episodes. The reason the anime sucked isn't because of the inconvenient route design or anything. It was just rushed beyond belief and thus the pacing sucked horribly OT: Rakuen definitely isn't as psychological by any means, it's more like action/sci-fi/comedy with the most over-the-top exaggerated plotline ever. It's kind of like TTGL or Kill la Kill as far as atmosphere goes lol |
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albertrojas said: sanlei said: 8 was quite nice, i praised it as the 3rd and last enjoyable episode of Kajitsu. 9 was a failure imo. An improvement would have been the start of her After Story in Meikyuu as an endin' for Makinas chapter instead of the horrible Kajitsu bad endin' Edit: 10-13 deserve a remove too. Unfortunately for you guys who hated those parts of Kajitsu, it's pretty much important if we're following the Eden timeline. As I'm sure you're all aware of, Grisaia no Kajitsu is a Visual Novel with Multiple Endings, and as I'm sure for those of you who played the game, there are only 5 routes where Yuuji ends up with one of the 5 girls. Now this is an important aspect of Meikyuu, which can be said to be the 6th, unplayable route, where it assumes Yuuji solves each of the girl's problems but fails to establish a romantic relationship with any of the 5 girls. Obviously this is what the anime adaptation of Grisaia no Kajitsu did. So don't complain if your favorite girl had her route butchered, it had to be done due to budget constraints and to set up the Eden timeline.(Although they probably could have done better if they were given more budget. More budget=more episodes is usually the case) I've seen worse adaptations, Grisaia no Kajitsu is not one of them. It's an above average adaptation in my opinion, as it's never that easy to adapt a VN that has many endings, you either have to go with it like Amagami SS or Yosuga no Sora style, where they rewind it back to a certain episode, and obviously Amagami SS did better than Yosuga no Sora due to having higher budget(more episodes). Or they can do it like Clannad, unifying the many arcs to a single, unified arc that leads to After Story and make the arcs that can't be fully adapted due to romance being a huge factor in those arcs(Tomoyo and Kyou's routes) have an OVA. Grisaia no Kajitsu did the latter one. As some people said, After Story was a lot better than season 1 of Clannad. Mainly the reason for this is because of the fact that it changed some of the routes, similar to what 8-bit did to Grisaia no Kajitsu, but it was a good adaptation nonetheless in my opinion. Do note that Clannad and After Story have 24-25 episodes respectively, while Grisaia only has 13. The number of episodes is an important factor. But hey, you can't ask for everything. 8-bit did what the could in 13 episodes. Besides, it's not over yet, so they may add more backstory to the girls. But don't get your hopes up, I'm just stating the possibility. I dont think ya have to tell me somethin' about the vns. I finished them long ago and also read Magical Chiruchiru. :) I gave Kajitsu a 10/10, Meikyuu a 7/10 and Rakuen also a 10/10(for very different reasons than Kajitsu). So tell me, y should i choose a inferior unplayable storyline over multiple complete written stories? Just for continuity or studios budget sake of the sequels story? This are bad reasons. Thats like tellin' new vn readers to not read Kajitsu, just follow the anime and read sequels after that, as Kajitsu storylines dont matter. Great advice, really, really. Also pls stop with the "they did well for 13 episodes, they used the budget they got" nonsense. I still cant see any reason to justify all the piss fetish and anime original stuff they managed to waste both time and money on. And presented all stuff in a very different ridiculous light thanks to the pacin'. (Which may fit better for Rakuen fans, but Rakuen is stupid _AND_ still well presented unlike Kajitsu anime without havin' a pissin' fetish). So nope, it isnt a good adaption just because it follows a particular path for the sequels and tries to adapt it to the ridiculous constraint of 13 episodes. Different staff without pissin' fetishes and more budget for more episodes woulda have helped for sure though. Lets face it: Kajitsu adaption simply sucks with a painful pacin' and is only there to set up the sequels which are perfect for animation, especially Rakuen with its hollywoodish presentation and story. I will only praise a good adaption and thats what i did with Meikyuu. Im still not sure if im goin' to praise Rakuen, as im still scepticial and didnt even need it animated in the first place. I love the vn presentation unlike Kajtisu and Meikyuu. At least the pacin' isnt a issue anymore. |
sanleiApr 15, 2015 3:23 PM
HaXXspetten said: Thai777 said: Chaos;Head, Majikoi and Umineko come to mind @terrible VN adaptations. DEEN's F/SN is pretty craptastic tooI'm not sure about this since I haven't read meikyuu VN, but I heard that it wasn't as good as Kajitsu and in Rakuen they ditch the psychological aspect, so I honestly would prefer it if they could do Grisaia well at least. I mean if we take into account that they had 13 episodes for it we can say they did well. But in my opinion it's better to just make Grisaia well and see if it sells instead of doing all the season at once. And I'm curious, what other adaptation are worse? Since I can honestly say this is one of the worst adaptation I saw in ages. Anyway yeah Kajitsu would never have been easy to adapt due to how its structured, but you still can't deny the fact that it would have been waaaayyy better had it just had more episodes. The reason the anime sucked isn't because of the inconvenient route design or anything. It was just rushed beyond belief and thus the pacing sucked horribly OT: Rakuen definitely isn't as psychological by any means, it's more like action/sci-fi/comedy with the most over-the-top exaggerated plotline ever. It's kind of like TTGL or Kill la Kill as far as atmosphere goes lol In my opinion Majikoi wasn't as bad since actually it spoils nothing...except Momoyo's route best part. That the problem with the sequel. I mean ofc I will enjoy them but if it lost one of the thing that made me like Kajitsu(the psychological part) I would prefer a well adapted Kajitsu over Kajitsu+the sequel. |
| one word..WOW |
| Best Grisaia so far. Yuuji's past is so dark, poor guy. It was good to see Kazuki with him, she was the only kind person. The incest wasn't disturbing, IMO. 8/10, this OVA is different of the others anime aired, and it's nice |
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