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Mar 21, 2014 4:21 PM

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No he will use one of the methods of the Taizan Fukun Ritual to do it. The Raven Coat may help increase his success though as implied by Suzu.
Mar 21, 2014 4:26 PM

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Tenma and jin totally owned this episode.... if only there was more character development in this anime... sigh
Mar 21, 2014 6:00 PM
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That OST that played after Kyouko's urging sounded eerily similar I could swear I've had that somehere before
Mar 21, 2014 9:14 PM

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So it has to be said, so I'll say it. Star reading boobies!
Mar 22, 2014 5:48 AM

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nurBAW said:
if only there was more character development in this anime... sigh
Touji got his in ep7-9, Tenma had a slight focus in vol6 but never mind, Kyouko is fine for now with her star reading power awakening in ep 21-23, Suzuka is good for now and Harutora's development actually started throughout the 6 month timeskip in ep7 till episode 19 I guess (barring a few episodes which does not focus him).

The main problem seems to be for Tenma but I think he did a great job in this episode.
Mar 22, 2014 6:08 AM

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"Understand, Pebble?" xD one of the best lines this season.

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Jin is OP as fuk.
This. I didn't expect Kagami to lose as easily, ugh. Ohtomo is Yakou confirmed?

The star reading was badly executed though.

Suzuka and Touji were kick-ass awesome.
Mar 22, 2014 2:17 PM

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So now Suzu makes her move.

And she targets Tenma of all people.

That bakatora thing seems to be becoming quite widespread.

Off they go to revive Natsume. But how? (they don't actually have her body, after all - is that needed?) And at what cost? And what help can Suzu really offer? Again, at what cost?
There is no such thing as shit taste. Only idiots who think everyone should have the same taste as they do.
Mar 22, 2014 8:19 PM

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As usual, Jin was a total BA and completely annihilated anyone that challenged him. :D

That was nice how Tenma was able to help out in his own (useless) way. xD

Kyoko's star-reading was awesome. Loved how she pointed out how rules in the world are only defined by man! Although it was kinda creepy how she was shouting it out but her body was saying it like a zombie.
Mar 22, 2014 9:48 PM

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Dragon_Slayer_X said:

Super dense? Kid please try to watch the show properly. His powers are sealed which is definitely not equal to being incompetent. As his memories start to come back, he shows what he is really capable of.

Despite anime cutting out some characterization, he has enormous powers and he is able to use spell used by other pretty well. In every fight, he has shown his capability. Maybe you didn't see it or maybe you are blind, since you are labeling him as too incompetent. Sheesh some people really love to hate a character for the sake of hating................

Do you have any idea about Omniyoji that you are bringing up vampire/magic/demon/whatever you like for comparison? People like you really whine a lot without even making proper comparisons.


Let's see his nickname is Bakatora and all his friends (with the exception of Tenma) have mentioned how clueless he is, so tell me again he isn't dense.

You're also forgetting he needed that staff for a good long while in order to properly do any spells, there was even an episode about Natsume helping him study since he was so far behind.

Mentioning character flaws that have been clearly established is not mindless hating on a character and while character flaws make for a more interesting character that's only when they're used well. Harutora comes across as a bland character anyone can self insert into, so it's no wonder some people are so quick to jump to his defense while ignoring all this since it makes it feel like any criticism is aimed squarely at you.

The comparison of Onmyoji with vampires/witches/etc is the comparison with STB how all the problems can be traced to whatever supernatural being the creator feels like using is stirring up trouble without any real reason beyond" I have power and I want the protagonist's power as well because I'm evil."

Develop your argument skills if you're just going to claim anyone with a different opinion to you is whining.

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That such vague, stupid and board classification you might as well listed said nearly every fantasy story in existence. Nevermind that quite a bit of is wrong, but even Kill a'la Kill would apply to all of that.

Once again huh?

Your argument is seemingly because TR have some common elements with other stories so it's generic, well then stop reading and watching anything fiction. You not going to find any story that doesn't have something you have seen before.


You know why not every story with those points fall under the definition of generic? It's because they take these elements and use other elements in ways that aren't commonly used so that they mold the story into something that hasn't been shown before. TR uses it's shared elements in the most common possible way so that nothing new or groundbreaking is shown and everything just comes out as same old, same old.

Nothing I mention above doesn't apply to TR so I don't know what show you've been watching, and while we're at it if you want to talk vague, stupid, broad classifications your reasons for why TR isn't generic is exactly this.

Jagd84 said:

The MC's has someone he likes, there is barely harem (and they bow out), the cast even gendered and has far more adults than any LN that isn't Baccano or DRRR. There next to no fanservice, the fights are sensible and it's plot and back-story is something rarely done in this medium.


Pick any series and more often then not the MC will have someone they like, likewise many series don't have a harem or fanservice. The cast of TR is far from being even gendered the vast majority of characters are male and even High School DxD has quite a few adult characters. Tell me what exactly qualifies a fight as sensible and what part of the plot is rarely done?
Mar 22, 2014 11:10 PM
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About Kyoko's star reading, I don't get it. How come what she said can somehow cause an impact on Jin and Kogure? Can someone explain whats the significance of Kyoko words or maybe can anyone tell me the difference of the scene from the light novel?
Mar 23, 2014 1:02 AM

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Let's see his nickname is Bakatora and all his friends (with the exception of Tenma) have mentioned how clueless he is, so tell me again he isn't dense.


He's called Bakatora when relates to things of romantic nature not in sense of him actually being stupid. Natsume and Touji wanted Harutora to become Onmyoji they believe he has talent for which has shown. It's meant to be affectionate nickname, it's not literal.

He's hardly clueless either, he caught on to fact Suzuka wasn't bad as she seemed, he knew Kyouko when attacked him verbally was just using him to get Natsume for a few examples. None of those things are the actions of someone who really oblivious.

I shouldn't have to explain something so blinding obvious.

You're also forgetting he needed that staff for a good long while in order to properly do any spells, there was even an episode about Natsume helping him study since he was so far behind.


Did you even read his post? Ohtomo gave him the staff because Harutora had difficulty controlling his magic due most of it being sealed and causing accidents. Natsume helped him catch up because up on till a couple weeks ago prior to enrollment, he was a normal kid who intentionally left out most magic related affairs. None of this things are his fault so what hell is your point here?

But I do like how you disregard the fact that not only did Harutora catch up, he learned faster in one year what it took others years to do and is of capable maintaining a high class familiar.

Mentioning character flaws that have been clearly established is not mindless hating on a character and while character flaws make for a more interesting character that's only when they're used well. Harutora comes across as a bland character anyone can self insert into, so it's no wonder some people are so quick to jump to his defense while ignoring all this since it makes it feel like any criticism is aimed squarely at you.


Except what you mentioned aren't even flaws and most of these are driven by your bias or lack of understanding of TR. I couldn't careless what you think about Harutora, that's your business, but don't go around posting your opinions as facts especially when it's just cherry picking. And we could do without snide insults towards others who share different than you. I like Harutora and I'm nothing like him personality-wise so that shows how much you know.

The comparison of Onmyoji with vampires/witches/etc is the comparison with STB how all the problems can be traced to whatever supernatural being the creator feels like using is stirring up trouble without any real reason beyond" I have power and I want the protagonist's power as well because I'm evil."


This one of dumbest things I've ever heard on here. So because a story has supernatural element involved in a conflict it's generic? Compared to what? A story about war? A story's involves romance? A story that involves a mystery or SoL? So TR is generic uses archetype elements that every plot ever created does to build it's world...? WTF?!

Nevermind that TR's conflict isn't even between man vs monster, but man vs man.

You know why not every story with those points fall under the definition of generic? It's because they take these elements and use other elements in ways that aren't commonly used so that they mold the story into something that hasn't been shown before. TR uses it's shared elements in the most common possible way so that nothing new or groundbreaking is shown and everything just comes out as same old, same old.


Except you are not arguing execution, you are arguing that TR is bad for having those literary elements in there in the first place. This directly contradicting what your main point above is.

Furthermore this is pure BS, please show me a work that is using it's elements and playing out exactly the same way TR is.

Oh wait you did by bring up STB in comparison.... hahahahaha.

Nothing I mention above doesn't apply to TR so I don't know what show you've been watching, and while we're at it if you want to talk vague, stupid, broad classifications your reasons for why TR isn't generic is exactly this.


Except it was you posted that list in order to claim TR was generic.

And here is a couple of reason why I think stands out since you requested it:

-Because it's a rare story about Onmyouji in a contemporary society that uses historical events such as WWII to drive, both it's back story and main story.

-It involves real life noble Japanese families and people from both Japan's begone mythological and historical eras. Not mention the political intrigue surrounding those families and magic community in general.

-The main cast is even gendered and secondary are not conveniently primarily female or consists entirely of students at a school. Instead it's more like Durarara or Baccano when there is a mix of all kinds of people by age, gender and profession.

-Male and female leads are an already establish pairing, with little to no harem elements at all. Relationships for that matter all come to a resolution unlike your typical where things are left hanging due it being a harem.

-Minimal fanservice and the MC's don't solve every issue in the story.

-Protagonists and Antagonists aren't against each other because of lol "i'm evil" like you claim, but because of a clash of ideals. Everyone in the cast is pretty competent and shows free of asspulls since everything is either hinted at or explained.

Just off the top of my head. How in the world any of that is like STB aside having supernatural elements beyond any comprehension unless you aren't being serious.

Pick any series and more often then not the MC will have someone they like,


Maybe in the a time before the harem craze infected LNs, but certainly doesn't happen often today. I should know because I've read plenty of them.

likewise many series don't have a harem or fanservice.


BS most shows have those, especially LNs, because they are marketable. That why a lots people on various forums end up being surprised when they encounter a show that has little of those elements.

The cast of TR is far from being even gendered


3 boys and 3 girls is not even gendered? What?

the vast majority of characters are male


I was talking about the MC's, that should be obvious. Furthermore having cast when majority is older males rather than the opposite is definitely uncommon, but as i said earlier the current trend to shove harems into nearly everything. Hence why a lot of shows often star one male and several females.

There are exceptions of course, but that's just it. "Exceptions".

and even High School DxD has quite a few adult characters.


Having 3-4 adults is not the same as 90% of the entire cast literally being adults. If this was the standard I was talking about, I would have never mentioned it to begin with. Furthermore DxD is a harem, the only people that matter are the girls (both young and milfs) and their relationships with Issei.

Tell me what exactly qualifies a fight as sensible


For starters:

Ohtomo fighting and defeating D instead of a bunch novices beating him through DEM. Other characters like Amami unexpectedly playing a big role in the plot and crushing Twin Horn agents in the Onmyo Agency instead of being useless and having the kids do his job for him which is what would normally happens in this genre.

and what part of the plot is rarely done?


See my list above.
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Mar 23, 2014 1:11 AM

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sagara1123 said:
About Kyoko's star reading, I don't get it. How come what she said can somehow cause an impact on Jin and Kogure? Can someone explain whats the significance of Kyoko words or maybe can anyone tell me the difference of the scene from the light novel?


They were just surprised that ability awoken in her at that time, not what she said.
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Mar 23, 2014 1:51 AM

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I think given the complexity of the story, the large cast of secondary characters who play important roles, the limited knowledge of the protagonist in the beginning (and the time it takes for them to realize what is actually going on), and the multiple levels of secrecy and subterfuge that mask everything (including family relations and whether entities are human or not), this has been a pretty good show. Yeah, it seemed like the pacing was off here and there, but as time has gone on, this has really found its footing. I'm excitedly waiting for the last episode, and I hope we get a second season soon. Since I unfortunately have to read all those LN spoilers before I delete them, I know we've got some great stuff still to come...

and by the way:

DO NOT DISCUSS THE LIGHT NOVEL BEYOND THIS EPISODE.
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Mar 23, 2014 2:09 AM

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Yeah, I feel bad any mods watching this and having to deal with spoilers, but I'm glad your still enjoying the show despite it. :)
Mar 23, 2014 3:16 AM
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Will the anime end the same way as Volume 9 of the LN ?
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Fleyx27 said:
Will the anime end the same way as Volume 9 of the LN ?
[SPOILER BEYOND THIS POINT]
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Please use the spoiler tag.

Mar 23, 2014 3:26 AM

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The anime skips few things but remained loyal throughout the series.

And just read rodac's post again, it's not that hard to look into.
Mar 23, 2014 3:27 AM

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@Fleyx27 You need a spoiler tag on that




Can't say anymore as this an anime thread.
Mar 23, 2014 3:29 AM

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@ jagd,
Off topic but you think the shikigami Natsume saw on that day when Harutora first promised her that he will protect her and become her shikigami...was actually Kakugyouki checking up on Yakou's reincarnation Harutora?
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Opps.. Sorry I just registered earlier so I don't really know most of the basic commands here aha >.> But now I know how to use it :)
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@ jagd,
Off topic but you think the shikigami Natsume saw on that day when Harutora first promised her that he will protect her and become her shikigami...was actually Kakugyouki checking up on Yakou's reincarnation Harutora?



Hmmm... I don't remember shikigami being around when Harutora made his promise, but while it's possible I kinda of doubt it. Kakugyouki's conversation with Douman back at the end of ep 6 makes him sound this is the first time he had actually seen Harutora.
Mar 23, 2014 4:03 AM

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But then again he said Kon is 'loyal'(you obviously know the meaning behind it). I think he said that at the same time when Kon was getting the focused at the very end of episode 6 when he was remembering his past with Yakou.

I personally like that guy because he helped Harutora in episode 8, so it could still be possible. If the character interactions go that deep then I would really love to see that.
Mar 23, 2014 11:48 PM

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lol that Tenma guy makes me kind of sad, saying how useful his specialty is. .

Well I don't know where Kyouko's star reading ability awakened from, but that's awfully convenient, especially to now have Jin helping (like always).

Not looking forward to the end, but I am still pretty excited to see it!

Mar 25, 2014 4:34 PM

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Jin is just too awesome. Best teacher a student could have xD
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Mar 26, 2014 7:53 PM

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Woohhh pretty good.
Finally almost over
Mar 27, 2014 3:06 AM

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5/5

Anime that reevaluates and leverages the collective, giving the sense that we all have a place, as Warhol said: Everyone has their fifteen minutes of fame! Here is the bride in an exquisite manner this concept.
With only one episode left must make a closing with a bang and who knows if there will be space for a possible second season.
However, in the BD version must redo the designs in many places and improve the CG.
As always, the best are always Othomo sensei and Doman! XD
Mar 28, 2014 2:45 AM

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Pretty good episode, esp. near the end. Didn't expect star reading in this anime.
Mar 29, 2014 7:19 PM

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Scarface just got sent back to earth, he's like a beginner against Jin :D Too many characters now = too little screentime for everyone :)
Mar 31, 2014 12:39 PM

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Rinji- said:
That star reading seemed like an asspull...


pretty much
Apr 9, 2014 2:19 AM

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Jin is getting more and more badass.

Lol suzu is pretty mean to tenma calling him a pebble.

What the fuck happened to kyouko? How can she read stars like that?
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Apr 11, 2014 4:10 PM

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That ending! Pretty great episode but well let's see what the last episode has to offer and well perhaps we'll see Natsume-chan back again?
May 25, 2014 7:14 PM

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Damn Four-eyes is the key!! Their description of his strength is great!!
A pebble's power!! Damn he has some major role in this important event!!
Glad Ohtomo is on the good side!!
Knight on the white horse has come!!
Yehey! They save harutora!! (well that was a little moment of happiness)
Woah a huge power boost for kyouko!! Stars reading nice!! Prediction to the fullest!!
The Revival Next episode!!!
Great episode btw.
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Aug 9, 2014 7:00 PM

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That astrology was fucking convenient yes? Prediction for the next episode: Natsume awakens and they kiss, happy END.
Aug 29, 2014 2:49 PM

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Why is Kagami on the other side? I thought he was an ally.
Looks like Tenma is not useless after all.
Kyouko reads stars? Cool
Let's see the ending.

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Prediction for the next episode: Natsume awakens and they kiss, happy END.

I want to see Natsume alive again, but I don't want them to kiss. CUZ HARUTORA IS GAY
Dec 14, 2014 2:30 PM

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The teacher surfs lava waves and has his own rock soundtrack in the background. Okay, that's a whole new level of badassery.
Dec 23, 2014 10:46 AM

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I think resurrecting would cost him a leg or arm xDD
Mar 20, 2015 3:09 AM

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Wow kyouko's astrology thing is really cool~
Apr 13, 2015 3:50 PM

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So that's what Tenma was doing. It was him who let the Raven Coat out. Cool. Nice to have him shine for a moment.

Ootomo-sensei is probably the most badass guy in this show. Like holy shit man.

Kyouko seeing all of those Earths was kinding weird. So that's what it means to read the stars?

What exactly does Suzu want/get out of this? So she want to revive Natsume too? Also where is Takiko? Is she really sleeping through all this? lol

Onto the final episode! Lets see how this ends!
May 23, 2015 5:36 AM

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Jin is a good teacher No only one ep left.

May 25, 2016 3:18 AM

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Looks like there's still a way to resurrect natsume.
Feb 3, 2017 10:44 PM

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Dam Tenma, and Kyouko who I thought were only boring background characters are doing something. Ohtomo-sensei is badass asf.
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Eijikita_Rukaede said:
Jin is getting more and more badass.

Lol suzu is pretty mean to tenma calling him a pebble.

What the fuck happened to kyouko? How can she read stars like that?


not to mentioned when she said if u fail i'l make sure u'l never have kids, she is savage lol

she can read stars cause its in her family
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Pretty late to prove glasses guy Tenma is actually useful. I mean it just so happened to be the penultimate episode after all. Though such is this show, so yeah.

Btw, again the thing with Kyoko was pretty much out of nowhere as well. Though okay, at least they were hinting something was about to happen since the last two episodes. So.. can work. Now yeah, last episode and Natsume will be revived.
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