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Eletale said:
If those Sakura and Syaoran where not the ones from CCS that would explain why was Syaoran's mother (the one we thought to be CCs Sakura) a dreamseer when she was suposed to be able to see the future whenever she wanted due to being more powerfull than Clow Reed. However the fact that their magical circles are the same still bugs me, after all Sakura had to change her magical circle in CCS due to the fact that her an Clows magic where somewhat different yet those Sakuras share the same magic circle, not to mention Syaoran has the same "circle" as his CCS counterpart.

the magiccircle IS CCS Sakura's circle o__o, I assume it's the same circle because CCS Sakura gave her wand to this new Sakura (which we all thought WAS the CCS Sakura)

And maybe, just like CCS Sakura, CCS SYaoran gave his sword to this new Syaoran (Who we all thought WAS the CCS Syaoran), hence the same magic circle

Lady-Saber-123 said:

so the SxS from CCS are not Taubasa Syaorans parents so their not Watunuki's (xxxHolic) either?
ok im just writing this to try to work it out in my head ...

so Syaoran's mother saw CCS Sakura in a dream and she gave her the staff, which she then gave to Yuuko as the price for little Tsuabasa Syaoran to pass through to Tsubasa Sakura's world when they were kids.

I think thats about right, right? lol

Well just because the SxS aren't from CCS, it doesn't mean that they aren't Watanuki's parents. I don't believe that there was any indication that says that

And we don't know yet what the star wand was used for :P all we know is that it was used as a price for having Sakura's wish (whatever it is) to be granted. But I think your theory is believable :) The only problem I see here is that...I thought the prices were always supposed to be something important to that person who wants their wish granted. Now that we know R!Syaoran & Watanuki's parents are NOT CCS SxS, then the star wand isn't as important to that Sakura... I agree with someone who previous stated this....but I really feel like CLAMP is just making stuff along :(..

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Plot Twists and endless theories about, in the good manner :D I feel that we will reach the final Chapter around No.220 including filling in odd ends.

Mar 31, 2009 7:32 AM

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I don't know , I just...don't know anymore , I get the feeling CLAMP is just making up stuff as they go to mess up with our heads.
I mean...seriouly...wtf is going anymore ? I don't understand...

If it wasn't CLAMP, I'd be sure it was that, but it's CLAMP, they normally have their stories all set right from the beginning, so...
Still... They must be having fun making all this confusing chapters.. u.u

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Plot Twists and endless theories about, in the good manner :D I feel that we will reach the final Chapter around No.220 including filling in odd ends.

you're really going to be that ambitious? XD I truly don't think it's going to end that quickly

give it maybe 5-10...but three? I dunno.. judging by how much CLAMP puts in one chap..it's going to be quite hard

Mar 31, 2009 7:53 AM

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robbydesu said:

PhantomWings-X88 said:

Plot Twists and endless theories about, in the good manner :D I feel that we will reach the final Chapter around No.220 including filling in odd ends.

you're really going to be that ambitious? XD I truly don't think it's going to end that quickly

give it maybe 5-10...but three? I dunno.. judging by how much CLAMP puts in one chap..it's going to be quite hard

That's exaxtly why I said in an earlier chapter this will end around Chapter 235... Again... It's just a hunch but it's my felings too :P

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oky i get da where da new sakura gets da star staff but it doesnt explain wher da syaoran get da sword 4rm. doesnt ccs syaoran hav da sme one n y do da new sakura n syaoran hav da sme magic circle as da ccs man dis is so confusing. can some1 plz explain dis.

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Great episde, I like it so much... Now 2 Sakuras 3 Shaorans and I so impatient for the nex chapter, what will happen????

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Mar 31, 2009 6:11 PM

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Ok officially confused!! LOL.... I re-read the chapter again... and what I understood was that R! Sayoran's parents are not CCS Sakura and CCS Sayoran, but ANOTHER pair of Sakura and Sayoran. CCS Sakura was able to predict all of this and knew it was the NEW Sakura's son aka R! Sayoran's destiny to help "save" the world. She then reassured this new Sakura and gave her the Star rod for her to use as a payment with Yuuko. I'm not sure but I think CCS Sayoran gave up "some" of his powers or his "sword" to the NEW Sayoran to aid NEW Sakura and his son R! Sayoran. That's probably why they have the same magic circles.... and then to be able to defeat evil using those given powers NEW Sakura & Sayoran had to pay a price and stay in the glass tube??....
where I'm really confused is when R! Sayoran remembered his past and meeting Yuuko for the 1st time I'm pretty sure his world seemed more like CCS Sakura's than TRC's world... I mean howcome his parents are dressed like they lived in a desert but he used to wear chinese clothes before traveling to R! Sakura's dimension.... and also someone here mentioned that the Star Rod wouldn't mean the same to NEW Sakura as to CCS Sakura but re-reading the chapter CCS Sakura says to NEW Sakura that she knows how important the rod is to her! and reassures her that the Clow cards will be ok... then NEW SAKURA must have had some involvment witht Clow or the Clow cards themselves?? I'm soooo confused anyways sorry for writing this much but I had to let my confusion out!!! LOL :)

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where I'm really confused is when R! Sayoran remembered his past and meeting Yuuko for the 1st time I'm pretty sure his world seemed more like CCS Sakura's than TRC's world... I mean howcome his parents are dressed like they lived in a desert but he used to wear chinese clothes before traveling to R! Sakura's dimension.... and also someone here mentioned that the Star Rod wouldn't mean the same to NEW Sakura as to CCS Sakura but re-reading the chapter CCS Sakura says to NEW Sakura that she knows how important the rod is to her! and reassures her that the Clow cards will be ok... then NEW SAKURA must have had some involvment witht Clow or the Clow cards themselves?? I'm soooo confused anyways sorry for writing this much but I had to let my confusion out!!! LOL :)

that's right, CCS Sakura did say that, totally forgot about that~ My only theory for that is that R!Syaoran and Watanuki's parents are the FUTURE VERSIONS of CCS Sakura and Syaoran XD. Yes, my sad way of keeping the idea of them being CCS Sakura and Syaoran.

Also, even IF R!Syaoran looks like he's from CCS world due to clothing or whatnot, there is no solid proof of where he came from. It definitely would be easier to figure out where once we figure out who his parents really are XD

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3littlepigs said:
Ok officially confused!! LOL.... I re-read the chapter again... and what I understood was that R! Sayoran's parents are not CCS Sakura and CCS Sayoran, but ANOTHER pair of Sakura and Sayoran.

IMO its totally wrong.

R!Syaoran's parents ARE CCS!Sakura and CCS!Syaoran, its been emphasized too much.

However those two who are there now are the "CCS!Syaoran and CCS!Sakura" from yet another world, who both got involved in this xanathos gambit by CCS!Sakura.

Basically - CCS!Sakura contacted her other self in alternate world, gave the wand to her.

Then that other Sakura, along with other Syaoran sealed themselves into the hourglass.

We still do not know where or if alive the CCS!Syaoran and CCS!Sakura are.

What we saw in this chapter and in xxxholic chapter are either the future selves of TRC!Syaoran and TRC!Sakura, or alternate-selves of CCS!Sakura and CCS!Syaoran.

Watanuki and Syaoran are still children of CCS!sakura/syaoran

Apr 1, 2009 7:47 AM

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Fai said:
What we saw in this chapter and in xxxholic chapter are either the future selves of TRC!Syaoran and TRC!Sakura, or alternate-selves of CCS!Sakura and CCS!Syaoran.

YAY, another person who thinks the same as me :D

When I first read the chapter, I was a bit sad and disappointed that it's suggested that R!Syaoran's and Watanuki's parents are not the CCS SxS...as Fai-san has mentioned, it's been emphasized for so long....so it was a bit heartbreaking to think that it may not be true. It felt like a strong connection I had with for R!Syaoran's and Watanuki's parents was severed.

I'm just hoping that CLAMP is just playing with our heads with this (like they alwasy do)...:P

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robbydesu said:

Fai said:
What we saw in this chapter and in xxxholic chapter are either the future selves of TRC!Syaoran and TRC!Sakura, or alternate-selves of CCS!Sakura and CCS!Syaoran.

YAY, another person who thinks the same as me :D

When I first read the chapter, I was a bit sad and disappointed that it's suggested that R!Syaoran's and Watanuki's parents are not the CCS SxS...as Fai-san has mentioned, it's been emphasized for so long....so it was a bit heartbreaking to think that it may not be true. It felt like a strong connection I had with for R!Syaoran's and Watanuki's parents was severed.

I'm just hoping that CLAMP is just playing with our heads with this (like they alwasy do)...:P

I would feel really bad if it turned out to be that Sakura and Syaoran were Watanuki's parents, as I think they should at least die in an epic way... I_i

If CCS!Sakura gave the Star Wand to TRC!Sakura, that would mean that Sakura has to be related to Yuuko somehow, as Yuuko previously had that wand in storage. It would be weird if she's Sakura, as she got it as a price... perhaps another timeline. It would all be solved if we'd know more about Clow... ~Sigh. I want the clue to these whole chapters already!

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"IMO its totally wrong.
R!Syaoran's parents ARE CCS!Sakura and CCS!Syaoran, its been emphasized too much.
However those two who are there now are the "CCS!Syaoran and CCS!Sakura" from yet another world, who both got involved in this xanathos gambit by CCS!Sakura."

I understand what you're saying about CLAMP's emphasis on CCS Sakura and CCS Sayoran being R! Sayoran's parents but obviously he recognized this NEW pair of Sakura and Sayoran to be his parents, I'm pretty sure CCS Sakura and CCS Sayoran also had a kid or kids but it doesn't seem like this R! Sayoran is him! or at least that would make it more complicated since CCS Sakura could have appeared there to save her own "son" just like this NEW Sakura is doing but she basically just aided her by giving her the Star Rod... like someone else mentioned it would all be so much easier if we knew more about Clow or what this NEW Sakura's relationship is to Clow and the Clow Cards ... I mean even if they are the same person in a different dimension I don't think this NEW Sakura has any Clow cards like CCS Sakura so the Star Rod being important to her has me wondering...

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I understand what you're saying about CLAMP's emphasis on CCS Sakura and CCS Sayoran being R! Sayoran's parents but obviously he recognized this NEW pair of Sakura and Sayoran to be his parents, I'm pretty sure CCS Sakura and CCS Sayoran also had a kid or kids but it doesn't seem like this R! Sayoran is him! or at least that would make it more complicated since CCS Sakura could have appeared there to save her own "son" just like this NEW Sakura is doing but she basically just aided her by giving her the Star Rod... like someone else mentioned it would all be so much easier if we knew more about Clow or what this NEW Sakura's relationship is to Clow and the Clow Cards ... I mean even if they are the same person in a different dimension I don't think this NEW Sakura has any Clow cards like CCS Sakura so the Star Rod being important to her has me wondering...

As mentioned before, my theory is that R!Syaoran and Watanuki's parents are not a different dimensions from CCS, but rather they are just the future versions.

The main reason I'm really sticking with this theory is what CCS Sakura said to R!Syaoran's mother, something along the lines of "This is precious to your right?" as CCS Sakura gave her own precious star wand to this other Sakura. How can this star wand be considered precious to this "new" Sakura? The only reason I can think of is that they are the same person. It makes sense that CCS Sakura decided to help out by giving away her precious thing to her future self.

I don't see how you can't see the possibility that CCS Sakura isn't helping at all, clearly she is, just not in a logical way that we may think. Just in a CLAMP confusing way.

Plus if this "new" Sakura is the future CCS Sakura, there is no proof of whether or not she has the cards. There could be several reasons for her to not use her cards. Even if she doesn't have the cards, that doesn't mean it'll take away the sentimental value behind the star wand. This is the wand that she created with her own power, the one thing that was by her side all the time. We ARE talking about CCS Sakura here, everything is important to her, each person she knows, each card she has, her guardians, and of course her wand are all considered to be precious to her.

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Hmm..
There's just something wrong... If she's future CCS!Sakura, why doesn't she has the wand? Or did she already gave it to Yuuko? But the clothing of this N!Sakura doesn't make sense if she's from CCS's world... Unless after all those years Tomoyo's still making clothes for her, which I don't know if I believe.. X_x

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Hmm..
There's just something wrong... If she's future CCS!Sakura, why doesn't she has the wand? Or did she already gave it to Yuuko? But the clothing of this N!Sakura doesn't make sense if she's from CCS's world... Unless after all those years Tomoyo's still making clothes for her, which I don't know if I believe.. X_x

Well...if younger CCS gives her wand to future CCS Sakura...obviously when she grows up till she meets her past self, she won't have the wand.

It won't make sense if this NEW Sakura (Assuming she is the future CCS Sakura) has a wand before the younger CCS Sakura gives it to her, that'll mean she'll have two wands.

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But if she had the wand before, it isn't logical that CCS!Sakura needs to give it to her...
Only if CCS!Sakura gave it to her just for this moment, but it's too much 'time travelling' X-x
I really hope there's some better explanation..

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what? i think clamp finally made my brain explode D= *shall check out your posts later to see if i can re-glue it* ._.

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Lumi-chan said:
But if she had the wand before, it isn't logical that CCS!Sakura needs to give it to her...
Only if CCS!Sakura gave it to her just for this moment, but it's too much 'time travelling' X-x
I really hope there's some better explanation..

Well you never know what may have happened to cause CCS Sakura to do that right? Be open-minded :)

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Lumi-chan said:
But if she had the wand before, it isn't logical that CCS!Sakura needs to give it to her...
Only if CCS!Sakura gave it to her just for this moment, but it's too much 'time travelling' X-x
I really hope there's some better explanation..

Well you never know what may have happened to cause CCS Sakura to do that right? Be open-minded :)

It's CLAMP, if I'm not open-minded I'll end up saying it's all imposible..
And I got to the point of considering Yuuko to be Sakura, cause of that 'all-powered' part and Yuuko not being her real name and so on, it doesn't seem like it, but it's pretty open-minded xDDD
And CCS!Sakura knows all that'll happen so she certainly had a reason for doing that.. We just need to be told what reason...

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Lumi-chan said:
But if she had the wand before, it isn't logical that CCS!Sakura needs to give it to her...
Only if CCS!Sakura gave it to her just for this moment, but it's too much 'time travelling' X-x
I really hope there's some better explanation..

Had the group not went on a journey, there would be no Acid Tokyo accident and no Clow, thus the group woul dnot have went to the journey, thus were would be no Tokyo Accident....<loop>

:)

Overall There's three possibilities:

1) The jar Sakura/Syao, the ones from this chapter are future selves of R!Syaoran and R!Sakura. 70%possible, since Watanuki and Syaoran would not confuse them with their parents and R!Sakura would not say the famous phrase of CCS!Sakura.
2.) The jar Sakura/Syao, the ones from this chapter are CCS!Sakura/Syaoran from yet another world. 90% possible since both Watanuki and R!Syaoran recognised them as their parents and the only way for such a confusion to be would be if they shared the same "Soul".
3) The Jar Sakura/Syao, the ones from this chapter are CCS!Sakura and CCS!Syaoran. 90% possible, since this explains why they were recognised as CCS!Sakura/Syaoran.

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Fai said:

Lumi-chan said:
But if she had the wand before, it isn't logical that CCS!Sakura needs to give it to her...
Only if CCS!Sakura gave it to her just for this moment, but it's too much 'time travelling' X-x
I really hope there's some better explanation..

Had the group not went on a journey, there would be no Acid Tokyo accident and no Clow, thus the group woul dnot have went to the journey, thus were would be no Tokyo Accident....<loop>

:)

Overall There's three possibilities:

1) The jar Sakura/Syao, the ones from this chapter are future selves of R!Syaoran and R!Sakura. 70%possible, since Watanuki and Syaoran would not confuse them with their parents and R!Sakura would not say the famous phrase of CCS!Sakura.
2.) The jar Sakura/Syao, the ones from this chapter are CCS!Sakura/Syaoran from yet another world. 90% possible since both Watanuki and R!Syaoran recognised them as their parents and the only way for such a confusion to be would be if they shared the same "Soul".
3) The Jar Sakura/Syao, the ones from this chapter are CCS!Sakura and CCS!Syaoran. 90% possible, since this explains why they were recognised as CCS!Sakura/Syaoran.

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I lost count of how many Sakuras and Syaorans there are in this series. XD

But kya! CCS Sakura with her catch phrase "it would all be all right"~ <3

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I lost count of how many Sakuras and Syaorans there are in this series. XD

But kya! CCS Sakura with her catch phrase "it would all be all right"~ <3

I counted! There's four. =_= CLAMP is not being nice eh...:(

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yay! Let's pull infinite FWR and Sakura and Syaoran and Fai and Kuropons from other dimensions and have them fight it out >.<"

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3littlepigs said:
I understand what you're saying about CLAMP's emphasis on CCS Sakura and CCS Sayoran being R! Sayoran's parents but obviously he recognized this NEW pair of Sakura and Sayoran to be his parents, I'm pretty sure CCS Sakura and CCS Sayoran also had a kid or kids but it doesn't seem like this R! Sayoran is him! or at least that would make it more complicated since CCS Sakura could have appeared there to save her own "son" just like this NEW Sakura is doing but she basically just aided her by giving her the Star Rod... like someone else mentioned it would all be so much easier if we knew more about Clow or what this NEW Sakura's relationship is to Clow and the Clow Cards ... I mean even if they are the same person in a different dimension I don't think this NEW Sakura has any Clow cards like CCS Sakura so the Star Rod being important to her has me wondering...

As mentioned before, my theory is that R!Syaoran and Watanuki's parents are not a different dimensions from CCS, but rather they are just the future versions.

The main reason I'm really sticking with this theory is what CCS Sakura said to R!Syaoran's mother, something along the lines of "This is precious to your right?" as CCS Sakura gave her own precious star wand to this other Sakura. How can this star wand be considered precious to this "new" Sakura? The only reason I can think of is that they are the same person. It makes sense that CCS Sakura decided to help out by giving away her precious thing to her future self.

I don't see how you can't see the possibility that CCS Sakura isn't helping at all, clearly she is, just not in a logical way that we may think. Just in a CLAMP confusing way.

Plus if this "new" Sakura is the future CCS Sakura, there is no proof of whether or not she has the cards. There could be several reasons for her to not use her cards. Even if she doesn't have the cards, that doesn't mean it'll take away the sentimental value behind the star wand. This is the wand that she created with her own power, the one thing that was by her side all the time. We ARE talking about CCS Sakura here, everything is important to her, each person she knows, each card she has, her guardians, and of course her wand are all considered to be precious to her.

Ok first I didn't mean to make it sound like CCS Sakura isn't helping... she obviously is and I'm sure seeing that all this was gonna happen she did the best she could. I meant it for the people that were still thinking about her "literally" being R! Sayoran's mother, she "that" Sakura with the school uniform is not R! Sayoran's mom as he did not recognize her as his mom. That was what I meant.

Your "future" version might be possible but for me is just confusing, because R! Sayoran's mom (the NEW Sakura) said that CCS Sakura told her that everything would be okay and she says I quote "The one from another world..who is the same as me" it might mean different things to different people I suppose but to me it means its same Sakura different dimensions like Tomoyo in that "racing" world (can't remember the name), CCS Sakura's Tomoyo and Kurogane's Tomoyo... they are not the same even though they kind of are...and "Acid Tokyo" is the PAST of Clow country yet they're different dimensions as well so I guess we're both thinking the same thing through different angles?? LOL or maybe the wand is precious to this NEW Sakura because she has some kind of relationship with Clow? maybe different than the relationship CCS Sakura had with Clow?? I'm just being really open minded here.. :)

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If Watanuki and R!Syaoran are truly the children of CCS SS, then yes CCS SS are still alive, as Yuuko herself said they are still alive but in another world to Watanuki. I can't see Yuuko being deceptive about it then because if they weren't, she'd pretty much be setting up Watanuki up for a massive fall.

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What in the world just happened? Another Duplicate? Only 12 pages, what is happening to TRC @_@?

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3littlepigs said:

robbydesu said:

3littlepigs said:
I understand what you're saying about CLAMP's emphasis on CCS Sakura and CCS Sayoran being R! Sayoran's parents but obviously he recognized this NEW pair of Sakura and Sayoran to be his parents, I'm pretty sure CCS Sakura and CCS Sayoran also had a kid or kids but it doesn't seem like this R! Sayoran is him! or at least that would make it more complicated since CCS Sakura could have appeared there to save her own "son" just like this NEW Sakura is doing but she basically just aided her by giving her the Star Rod... like someone else mentioned it would all be so much easier if we knew more about Clow or what this NEW Sakura's relationship is to Clow and the Clow Cards ... I mean even if they are the same person in a different dimension I don't think this NEW Sakura has any Clow cards like CCS Sakura so the Star Rod being important to her has me wondering...

As mentioned before, my theory is that R!Syaoran and Watanuki's parents are not a different dimensions from CCS, but rather they are just the future versions.

The main reason I'm really sticking with this theory is what CCS Sakura said to R!Syaoran's mother, something along the lines of "This is precious to your right?" as CCS Sakura gave her own precious star wand to this other Sakura. How can this star wand be considered precious to this "new" Sakura? The only reason I can think of is that they are the same person. It makes sense that CCS Sakura decided to help out by giving away her precious thing to her future self.

I don't see how you can't see the possibility that CCS Sakura isn't helping at all, clearly she is, just not in a logical way that we may think. Just in a CLAMP confusing way.

Plus if this "new" Sakura is the future CCS Sakura, there is no proof of whether or not she has the cards. There could be several reasons for her to not use her cards. Even if she doesn't have the cards, that doesn't mean it'll take away the sentimental value behind the star wand. This is the wand that she created with her own power, the one thing that was by her side all the time. We ARE talking about CCS Sakura here, everything is important to her, each person she knows, each card she has, her guardians, and of course her wand are all considered to be precious to her.

Ok first I didn't mean to make it sound like CCS Sakura isn't helping... she obviously is and I'm sure seeing that all this was gonna happen she did the best she could. I meant it for the people that were still thinking about her "literally" being R! Sayoran's mother, she "that" Sakura with the school uniform is not R! Sayoran's mom as he did not recognize her as his mom. That was what I meant.

Your "future" version might be possible but for me is just confusing, because R! Sayoran's mom (the NEW Sakura) said that CCS Sakura told her that everything would be okay and she says I quote "The one from another world..who is the same as me" it might mean different things to different people I suppose but to me it means its same Sakura different dimensions like Tomoyo in that "racing" world (can't remember the name), CCS Sakura's Tomoyo and Kurogane's Tomoyo... they are not the same even though they kind of are...and "Acid Tokyo" is the PAST of Clow country yet they're different dimensions as well so I guess we're both thinking the same thing through different angles?? LOL or maybe the wand is precious to this NEW Sakura because she has some kind of relationship with Clow? maybe different than the relationship CCS Sakura had with Clow?? I'm just being really open minded here.. :)

Well I think your way of thinking that this "NEW" Sakura is just another different VERSION of CCS Sakura just like how Piffle Tomoyo is a different VERSION of Tomoyo-hime (from Nihon) is sort of a established way of thinking. That was the way we were taught to think immediately (by Yuuko).

If you're using the Acid Tokyo and CLow Country example, then you ARE thinking the same way as me XD because they are the same country/world, just a different TIME period. In my eyes, it fits into the word or concept of "dimension". That's why I think it's quite possible that R!Syaoran's and Watanuki's mother is the future CCS Sakura.

Although your way of thinking about the wand IS being open-minded, I don't agree because it doesn't follow the basic facts of the manga world. The Star Wand is a wand that CCS Sakura created HERSELF with HER powers, this is not connected to Clow whatsoever. Unless your connection is referring to the fact that the "TEMPLATE" of the star wand was the wand that Clow gave CCS Sakura...

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If Watanuki and R!Syaoran are truly the children of CCS SS, then yes CCS SS are still alive, as Yuuko herself said they are still alive but in another world to Watanuki. I can't see Yuuko being deceptive about it then because if they weren't, she'd pretty much be setting up Watanuki up for a massive fall.

I don't think she is lying per se (but if she is, I agree with you, that's just not fair for Watanuki)...it really depends on Yuuko's defnition of "alive". Perhaps for her, being "alive" is having the soul still existing in the world. But I think we all know the Yuuko is allllllways cryptic about things XD so who knows

robbydesuApr 3, 2009 4:54 AM

Apr 3, 2009 1:52 PM

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"Well I think your way of thinking that this "NEW" Sakura is just another different VERSION of CCS Sakura just like how Piffle Tomoyo is a different VERSION of Tomoyo-hime (from Nihon) is sort of a established way of thinking. That was the way we were taught to think immediately (by Yuuko).

If you're using the Acid Tokyo and CLow Country example, then you ARE thinking the same way as me XD because they are the same country/world, just a different TIME period. In my eyes, it fits into the word or concept of "dimension". That's why I think it's quite possible that R!Syaoran's and Watanuki's mother is the future CCS Sakura.

Although your way of thinking about the wand IS being open-minded, I don't agree because it doesn't follow the basic facts of the manga world. The Star Wand is a wand that CCS Sakura created HERSELF with HER powers, this is not connected to Clow whatsoever. Unless your connection is referring to the fact that the "TEMPLATE" of the star wand was the wand that Clow gave CCS Sakura..."

Ok then we are thinking the same way just explaining it differently! LOL sorry for the confusion. I know Sakura created that wand herself yet the "TEMPLATE" as you call it was originally the one Clow gave to her. What I'm trying to say is even if this NEW Sakura is a "future/ different dimension" version of CCS Sakura she wouldn't value the Star Wand as "Something really precious to her" just because she is the future version of CCS Sakura, there's something else ... but as always we're gonna have to wait until next chapter to get some more info and become even more confused!!

3littlepigsApr 3, 2009 1:57 PM

Apr 4, 2009 8:08 AM

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analyzing chapters every week to get a vague idea of whats happening is becoming this mangas greatest aspect or the thing turning everyone off. I think I'll wait for the end of TRC before i go back and say " just what happened the last 20 chapters?" I've been lost since the clones died.

Apr 4, 2009 1:44 PM

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Interesting, so while CCS's SxS are not directly Tsubasa Syaoran or Watanuki's parents, but just another set, they could be younger versions of his parents? that's a thought... but with Acid Tokyo and Clow Country following that now, I don't think that's totally unreasonable. and that's why the both have the same magic circles. if it was just NEW Sakura that had the same magic circle, that could just be due to the fact she got CCS Sakura's magic wand, but the fact that BOTH the NEW SS had the same magic circles in CCS leads me to believe more that they are in fact, future versions of CCS SS.

ugh, i've been mind-CLAMPed....

Apr 4, 2009 1:47 PM

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TwilightShiva said:
Interesting, so while CCS's SxS are not directly Tsubasa Syaoran or Watanuki's parents, but just another set, they could be younger versions of his parents? that's a thought... but with Acid Tokyo and Clow Country following that now, I don't think that's totally unreasonable. and that's why the both have the same magic circles. if it was just NEW Sakura that had the same magic circle, that could just be due to the fact she got CCS Sakura's magic wand, but the fact that BOTH the NEW SS had the same magic circles in CCS leads me to believe more that they are in fact, future versions of CCS SS.

ugh, i've been mind-CLAMPed....

YAY! Another person who thinks this way

Apr 4, 2009 1:59 PM

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eh? so it was was Syaoran's parents 0___0
then cross reference with CCS - jeez enough with the cofusing stuff >.<

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