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Oct 10, 2008 11:06 AM
#1
THIS IS AN ANIME ONLY DISCUSSION POST. DO NOT DISCUSS THE MANGA BEYOND THIS EPISODE. ---------------------------------------- The story is getting better. First scene of ecchi in this one but you do not see as much as Ikkitousen but you know how THE DVD SYSTEM works so they will rebuffer this scene. Hayase finally kicks the stupid ass of these guys who bully him and gets Risa more envious. THEY FUCKED UP THE STORY! THEY REALLY SCREWED IT UP. In the manga the guy is dead and killed by LineBarrels when he was young with Risa and Yajima. This time it's when he gets struck down by LineBarrels like in the present. I think that sucks and makes the story weirder. Anyways loved the scenes with HIND Machina and the other one that I forgot. PAINKILLER was good also! Those twins sure are something apart from the manga version. I DID NOT LIKE THE SCENE OF HAYASE NAKED IN THE BATHTUB! WTF IS THAT? I AM NOT GAY NOR I ENJOY THAT CRAP! HIGHLIGHTS The first ecchi scenes ![]() ![]() THE ROBOTS OF JUSTICE SO TO SPEAK! ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() LineBarrels SLICING IN HALF ROBOTS!+ Who The Hell digs his own grave??? ![]() ![]() |
angel999Oct 10, 2008 1:38 PM
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Oct 10, 2008 1:15 PM
#2
Ali Project doing the OP is good in my opinion ^^ Lolz Kouichi again with his evil laugh in the end of the episode. |
Oct 10, 2008 3:43 PM
#3
THEY just had to make the pain worse.....GONZO's depiction of the incredible manga is just AWFUL........FAILZO I HATE YOU!!! >_< |
Oct 10, 2008 3:53 PM
#4
This is what I wrote on FTV (www.fansub.tv): - FAILZO and Masamitsu Hidaka (the director of Pokemon and this show) are to blame for this FAILURE!! =((( :angry: I just watched episode 02 and it just had to get worst.....in the manga we never saw his mother, younger sister or the brown haired chick factor who pilots a stupidly named Machina called "Painkiller" (I don't know if this is one of the unknown Machina in the manga because we only know the names of 5 or 6 of the total 11 Machinas). <_< Also the "summoning" of LineBarrel using Breast-pathy.....is just pointless ecchi done by FAILZO. :angry: <_< :angry: Also, his death and reaction are COMPLETELY DIFFERENT to the manga and also Emi hates his guts in the manga for like the first 15 to 20 chapters (something like that) a BLACK LineBarrel. I don't know why I am watching this, I guess its because I really hope for it to return to original manga plot and its the ONLY reason for me to continue watching this series......this is worse than MOUSE. ;) |
Oct 10, 2008 4:25 PM
#5
JCDRANZER said: This is what I wrote on FTV (www.fansub.tv): - FAILZO and Masamitsu Hidaka (the director of Pokemon and this show) are to blame for this FAILURE!! =((( :angry: I just watched episode 02 and it just had to get worst.....in the manga we never saw his mother, younger sister or the brown haired chick factor who pilots a stupidly named Machina called "Painkiller" (I don't know if this is one of the unknown Machina in the manga because we only know the names of 5 or 6 of the total 11 Machinas). <_< Also the "summoning" of LineBarrel using Breast-pathy.....is just pointless ecchi done by FAILZO. :angry: <_< :angry: Also, his death and reaction are COMPLETELY DIFFERENT to the manga and also Emi hates his guts in the manga for like the first 15 to 20 chapters (something like that) a BLACK LineBarrel. I don't know why I am watching this, I guess its because I really hope for it to return to original manga plot and its the ONLY reason for me to continue watching this series......this is worse than MOUSE. ;) I agreed about the ecchi breast grabbing! WTF is that? In the manga he should be able to summon anytime and anywhere so WTF? Also Painkiller is just the another for the robot the twins pilot. |
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Oct 10, 2008 6:02 PM
#6
Oct 10, 2008 7:15 PM
#7
yea I take back waht I said.... this is awful |
It doesn't think, it doesn't feel, it doesn't laugh or cry..... All it does from dusk till dawn is make the soldiers die. |
Oct 10, 2008 8:31 PM
#8
GOD. THIS IS HORRIBLE. im SICK of his faggot attitude, if he doesnt somehow hit a point and change in the nxt ep stuff this anime and wtf is up w/ the breastgroping summoning technique? and the bathtubs?! URGGHHH *angst |
Oct 10, 2008 8:56 PM
#9
Chelleee said: GOD. THIS IS HORRIBLE. im SICK of his faggot attitude, if he doesnt somehow hit a point and change in the nxt ep stuff this anime and wtf is up w/ the breastgroping summoning technique? and the bathtubs?! URGGHHH *angst IS THE BREAST GRABBING THAT BAD????????????? |
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Oct 10, 2008 9:29 PM
#10
Very predictable, cliched and not really going anywhere interesting is what best describes this. 2.5/5 |
Oct 10, 2008 9:32 PM
#11
I like how they destroyed the plot to make a fanservice anime ..... GONZOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO! |
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Oct 10, 2008 10:16 PM
#12
give it a few more episodes first I recall I didn't like Strike Witches much when it started... but I was wrong |
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Oct 11, 2008 8:01 AM
#13
I'll agree with those who dislike it. The main character is a jackass. The breast grabbing is totally unnecessary and comes across as forced ecchi. I'll give the show three more episodes to turn it around. |
Oct 11, 2008 8:08 AM
#14
angel999 said: I DID NOT LIKE THE SCENE OF HAYASE NAKED IN THE BATHTUB! WTF IS THAT? I AM NOT GAY NOR I ENJOY THAT CRAP! Congratulations, not you've been given a small minute taste of what women go through watching all the fanservice in anime directed toward guys. You know not all fanservice has to be about naked girls. Your being childish and throwing a fit over it annoys me. |
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Oct 11, 2008 8:45 AM
#15
O I'll probably keep watching. this is some thing you need to see. It's gonna go down as one of those animes as everyone remembers for being really awful. |
It doesn't think, it doesn't feel, it doesn't laugh or cry..... All it does from dusk till dawn is make the soldiers die. |
Oct 11, 2008 9:39 AM
#16
ukonkivi said: angel999 said: I DID NOT LIKE THE SCENE OF HAYASE NAKED IN THE BATHTUB! WTF IS THAT? I AM NOT GAY NOR I ENJOY THAT CRAP! Congratulations, not you've been given a small minute taste of what women go through watching all the fanservice in anime directed toward guys. You know not all fanservice has to be about naked girls. Your being childish and throwing a fit over it annoys me. NOW NOW, OPINIONS ARE JUST EXRESSIONS AND WE ARE ALL DIFFERENT SO LEARN FRIEND OF SUCH WONDERFUL NEWS. |
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Oct 11, 2008 11:04 AM
#17
angel999 said: NOW NOW, OPINIONS ARE JUST EXRESSIONS AND WE ARE ALL DIFFERENT SO LEARN FRIEND OF SUCH WONDERFUL NEWS. Why do you use caps so obsessively? It's extremely annoying! Besides, you aren't doing what you just said. Ukonkivi is stating his opinion. Besides, how hard is it to ignore it? We, as women, have to ignore fanservice of female characters in many shows, so you get to ignore it fanservice of a male character in one show. Big deal. |
Oct 11, 2008 11:33 AM
#18
Jelli said: angel999 said: NOW NOW, OPINIONS ARE JUST EXRESSIONS AND WE ARE ALL DIFFERENT SO LEARN FRIEND OF SUCH WONDERFUL NEWS. Why do you use caps so obsessively? It's extremely annoying! Besides, you aren't doing what you just said. Ukonkivi is stating his opinion. Besides, how hard is it to ignore it? We, as women, have to ignore fanservice of female characters in many shows, so you get to ignore it fanservice of a male character in one show. Big deal. The caps are just my style please do not get offended. Unlike many people think it is specifically for yelling but I use it emphasize or stress like someone underlines things in books. I understand the frustration but I do NEVER excited by ecchi or hentai things but I despise really. I try to tolerate to certain points but there are limits. MY APOLOGIES ONCE AGAIN. I do think GONZO is really ecchi studio but yet they may not be Remember Druaga.....that did not really have ecchiness. They were some but not much. Did not even notice it. |
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Oct 11, 2008 11:49 AM
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Oct 11, 2008 1:23 PM
#20
Koichi is now officially the most retarded hero. So, who attacks allies in their right mind? Please. "Just a plain kid getting power without no [sic] hard work... That just makes me sick!" I totally agree with that guy, at least in this case (and I'll overlook the (accidental) double negative). Well, at least the coolest mecha ever IMHO has appeared. Anyone care to guess? Seeing it in the previews is really the only reason I started watching this show. As soon as this show fails to simply annoy me by its stupidity, I'll see what the manga is like. Probably look like a masterpiece in comparison. Off-topic: angel999 said: The caps are just my style please do not get offended. Unlike many people think it is specifically for yelling but I use it emphasize or stress like someone underlines things in books. <pre>Then use underlines. angel999 said: What about Jin running around naked in the first ep of Kannagi? Did you complain about that? Please understand that showing a naked guy is not gay.I DID NOT LIKE THE SCENE OF HAYASE NAKED IN THE BATHTUB! WTF IS THAT? I AM NOT GAY NOR I ENJOY THAT CRAP! |
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Oct 11, 2008 1:46 PM
#21
The only reason people are hating this show is because of the retarded male protagonist? I don't find that a very good reason to hate a show overall. The whole point of making Koichi being an ass is so that he can be more like a real "hero" as he mature over the series, people are just jumping into conclusions with just 2 episodes. |
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Oct 11, 2008 2:14 PM
#22
kaminakun said: The only reason people are hating this show is because of the retarded male protagonist? I don't find that a very good reason to hate a show overall. The whole point of making Koichi being an ass is so that he can be more like a real "hero" as he mature over the series, people are just jumping into conclusions with just 2 episodes. I hate it cause the whole show sucks. |
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Oct 11, 2008 8:58 PM
#23
kaminakun said: Deal is, that's human nature. First impressions usually mean everything to a person, so when the show doesn't start off good, a lot of people are going to jump to conclusions about it. This may end up being the best show of 2008 for all we know, but a lot of people are not going to watch it all because of these first few eps.The only reason people are hating this show is because of the retarded male protagonist? I don't find that a very good reason to hate a show overall. The whole point of making Koichi being an ass is so that he can be more like a real "hero" as he mature over the series, people are just jumping into conclusions with just 2 episodes. |
Oct 11, 2008 9:13 PM
#24
Oct 12, 2008 1:02 AM
#25
kaminakun said: The only reason people are hating this show is because of the retarded male protagonist? I don't find that a very good reason to hate a show overall. The whole point of making Koichi being an ass is so that he can be more like a real "hero" as he mature over the series, people are just jumping into conclusions with just 2 episodes. It's a waste of time trying to defend a series with bigots. Hate to say it, but its true. Jigero said: I hate it cause the whole show sucks. best argument ever Jelli said: Deal is, that's human nature. First impressions usually mean everything to a person, so when the show doesn't start off good, a lot of people are going to jump to conclusions about it. This may end up being the best show of 2008 for all we know, but a lot of people are not going to watch it all because of these first few eps. And it's completely fucking retarded, ~in my opinion~, that people do that. A lot of good series don't always have the strongest first couple episodes but people judge everything by those episodes and it's unfair. What's more retarded is that people IN EVERY SINGLE NEW GONZO SERIES, immediately accuse Gonzo of being shit by tossing around the ever so clever "gonzo'd" (is it "failzo'd" now? good one!) term. Hey, I take it some of you go to /a/ right? Do us a favor and stay over there. You're not clever. Gonzo is shit, huh? They were the ones behind Gankutsuou, NHK and Seto no Hanayome, and those were all shitty weren't they? (even if you think so, most of MAL doesn't!) What you guys fail to realize is that it's not always Gonzo's fault for everything that goes wrong, its what they have to work with. Anyway, like I said, bigots. I know it's meaningless to argue anything, so that's it for me. |
Oct 12, 2008 5:06 AM
#26
i somehow like this show... maybe because the main character isnt a good guy, im tired of watching nice guys saving the town or rescue virgins. im sure that in the next few eps he will definitely change to a good one and stop being a brat. |
Oct 12, 2008 5:54 AM
#27
It's alright so far, but Im dropping it. There are plenty of other fall anime, and most of them kick ass. This one just isn't worth watching unless you have nothing better to do. To Aru Majutsu no Index Toradora Shikabane Hime aka Akane-Iro ni Somaru Saka Casshern Sins (mixed feelings about it though) |
Oct 12, 2008 6:05 AM
#28
Not sure exactly what Gonzo we're thinking when they did this project. I've heard so much good from the manga but Gonzo just seems to remove all the good and replace it with things we hate and have seen before. Won't drop it, but I just don't get what Gonzo are trying to do time upon time making average shows. They've done good stuff before, but lately almost all they touch turn into dirt. |
Oct 12, 2008 10:04 AM
#30
Universally. angel999 said: What about Jin running around naked in the first ep of Kannagi? Did you complain about that? Please understand that showing a naked guy is not gay.I DID NOT LIKE THE SCENE OF HAYASE NAKED IN THE BATHTUB! WTF IS THAT? I AM NOT GAY NOR I ENJOY THAT CRAP! Yes I am complaining about that scene too but the context made me less into complaining but I still felt uncomfortable. BTW just to let you know I HATE FOLLOWING UNIVERSAL LAWS. THE LAW IS MY LAW MY WAY! Learn about individuality! |
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Oct 12, 2008 4:26 PM
#31
It was alright i was hoping better from this anime although the whole sick with power approach to the main character is a nice twist |
Oct 12, 2008 4:31 PM
#32
angel999 said: What about Jin running around naked in the first ep of Kannagi? Did you complain about that? Please understand that showing a naked guy is not gay. ... Did you just talk to yourself? |
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Oct 12, 2008 8:16 PM
#33
ukonkivi said: angel999 said: What about Jin running around naked in the first ep of Kannagi? Did you complain about that? Please understand that showing a naked guy is not gay. ... Did you just talk to yourself? No just a stupid typing mistake. ANYWAYS! STUPID MISTAKE THEY DID: Hayase never says thank you for killing me to Kizaki. IN FACT he is supposed to hate her and thank her! IDIOT HAYASE! |
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Oct 13, 2008 2:09 AM
#34
4 Reasons I actually like this show. 1) Main character acts in a realistic way for a high schooler, none of this Kira Yamato overly stupid calm crap. Also in this ep, not every person would know who their allies and enemy's where. If you where in his situation would you choose a side right off the bat without knowing who the hell they where? He also shows that power can cause a person to change dramatically. Not every person, let alone high schooler, has the will power to suppress their desire to go nuts when given a tool for killing, be it for justice (what they think is right), for fun, or just for flat out killing. 2) The show makes fun of almost every mecha related series ever made. People are taking this show waaayyyy to serious. Stop over analyzing every detail and just sit back and laugh at how belatedly obvious it is that their making fun of other shows in a much more serious way. 3) The main character isn't necessarily "good". Far to many anime mecha shows have hero's that are too good. We never see what happens when a questionable character becomes the hero of the story. It's interesting to think that at any given moment he could flip out and kill everyone in his path. 4) Real life situations - Similar to my number 1 point, I find it interesting to see how the main character acts in school and around people once realizing he's dead and has power. So, I think people need to keep an open opinion about this series.....or at least not think so hard about it. |
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Oct 13, 2008 6:27 AM
#35
DeathfireD said: 4 Reasons I actually like this show. 1) Main character acts in a realistic way for a high schooler, none of this Kira Yamato overly stupid calm crap. Also in this ep, not every person would know who their allies and enemy's where. If you where in his situation would you choose a side right off the bat without knowing who the hell they where? He also shows that power can cause a person to change dramatically. Not every person, let alone high schooler, has the will power to suppress their desire to go nuts when given a tool for killing, be it for justice (what they think is right), for fun, or just for flat out killing. 2) The show makes fun of almost every mecha related series ever made. People are taking this show waaayyyy to serious. Stop over analyzing every detail and just sit back and laugh at how belatedly obvious it is that their making fun of other shows in a much more serious way. 3) The main character isn't necessarily "good". Far to many anime mecha shows have hero's that are too good. We never see what happens when a questionable character becomes the hero of the story. It's interesting to think that at any given moment he could flip out and kill everyone in his path. 4) Real life situations - Similar to my number 1 point, I find it interesting to see how the main character acts in school and around people once realizing he's dead and has power. So, I think people need to keep an open opinion about this series.....or at least not think so hard about it. DeathfireD BEAUTIFUL OPINIONS AND WELL WRITTEN POINTS. I AGREED WITH THE ABOVE 100% EXCEPT I don't think it makes fun of the mecha shows! It is still cool the designs they have and the Machina are wayyyyyyy better than Gundamns except they suck at flying and space. |
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Oct 13, 2008 8:11 AM
#36
It was better than ep 1, but only with a rats ass. We did find out that the booby-grabbin is actually needed to summon the.. machina (lame!). This a.hole kid annoys me to death. It's realistic, but isn't fun to watch. On the "making fun of other mecha related series" part: you generally need two things to make this work. 1. be funny or at least interesting 2. make it easy to recognize that you're making fun of something The good part was the cool names for other mechas. Like I would love to pilot Painkiller! Reminds me of transformers. The worst part was the OP. It inflicted physical damage on my ears. I'll keep watchin' this, but i'm a masochist.. |
Oct 13, 2008 8:25 AM
#37
Kvakond said: It was better than ep 1, but only with a rats ass. We did find out that the booby-grabbin is actually needed to summon the.. machina (lame!). This a.hole kid annoys me to death. It's realistic, but isn't fun to watch. On the "making fun of other mecha related series" part: you generally need two things to make this work. 1. be funny or at least interesting 2. make it easy to recognize that you're making fun of something The good part was the cool names for other mechas. Like I would love to pilot Painkiller! Reminds me of transformers. The worst part was the OP. It inflicted physical damage on my ears. I'll keep watchin' this, but i'm a masochist.. YOU SAID: On the "making fun of other mecha related series" part: you generally need two things to make this work. 1. be funny or at least interesting---------------> It is interesting about two organization fighting off one for world domination and the other for world peace and having all the Machinae (that is impossible since some other people with Katou have some). I think that is a good plot that is worthy of interesting! 2. make it easy to recognize that you're making fun of something----------> I think only the slice of life parts or when they are not fighting.....the battle are pretty serious to my eyes and the blood during those is NOT LOL AT ALL. I for one take the battles seriously. YOU SAID: The worst part was the OP. It inflicted physical damage on my ears. ---------> ARE YOU KIDDING ME? I love to Karaoke it! I am very surprised by this but ok. |
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Oct 13, 2008 8:28 AM
#38
Oct 13, 2008 8:47 AM
#39
Well that wasn't actually how I meant funny or interesting, but never mind. angel999 said: YOU SAID: The worst part was the OP. It inflicted physical damage on my ears. ---------> ARE YOU KIDDING ME? I love to Karaoke it! I am very surprised by this but ok. We have a saying in my country: "tastes and slaps", which means everyone's different and doesn't like the same stuff. To me, the OP was a chaotic pile of chimps playing GuitarHero. But hey, we could still have a beer without cutting each others throat. |
Oct 13, 2008 10:31 AM
#40
Kvakond said: Well that wasn't actually how I meant funny or interesting, but never mind. angel999 said: YOU SAID: The worst part was the OP. It inflicted physical damage on my ears. ---------> ARE YOU KIDDING ME? I love to Karaoke it! I am very surprised by this but ok. We have a saying in my country: "tastes and slaps", which means everyone's different and doesn't like the same stuff. To me, the OP was a chaotic pile of chimps playing GuitarHero. But hey, we could still have a beer without cutting each others throat. YOU ARE RIGHT..........BEER TIME! You made me LOL BIG TIME WITH YOUR COMMENT! THANKS! ^_^ |
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Oct 13, 2008 11:24 AM
#41
I"m sorry, but I have no reason to believe that this show doesn't take itself seriously. In a show like Tengen Toppa Gurren Lagaan, it is painfully obvious that the whole concept of mechs in anime is a joke, and they go about the whole thing tongue in cheek. Here in Kurogane, people take all this so seriously, trying to explain the difference of mechas and arma. Also, there is a way to depict a normal teenager being whiny and slightly assholeish while maintaing a sense of charisma within him to keep the viewer captivated and not so annoyed as, again, was done in Tengen with Simon. So even if Hayase is written well in the manga, and you are just defending that version of Hayase to everyone, I don't think it is ridiculous to say that this interpretation is very, very, very annoying, and lacking charisma. |
Oct 13, 2008 11:41 AM
#42
noteDhero said: I"m sorry, but I have no reason to believe that this show doesn't take itself seriously. It really doesn't really matter if the show takes itself seriously or not, it's up to the viewer to decide. Personally, I find this show extremely amusing and entertaining. My grandfather just passed away a few days ago, and the first episode was very amusing and lifted my spirits immediately. The second a bit less amusing , but still highly entertaining. I like my entertainment. |
Oct 13, 2008 12:14 PM
#43
angel999 said: THIS IS AN ANIME ONLY DISCUSSION POST. DO NOT DISCUSS THE MANGA BEYOND THIS EPISODE. ---------------------------------------- The story is getting better. First scene of ecchi in this one but you do not see as much as Ikkitousen but you know how THE DVD SYSTEM works so they will rebuffer this scene. Hayase finally kicks the stupid ass of these guys who bully him and gets Risa more envious. THEY FUCKED UP THE STORY! THEY REALLY SCREWED IT UP. In the manga the guy is dead and killed by LineBarrels when he was young with Risa and Yajima. This time it's when he gets struck down by LineBarrels like in the present. I think that sucks and makes the story weirder. Anyways loved the scenes with HIND Machina and the other one that I forgot. PAINKILLER was good also! Those twins sure are something apart from the manga version. I DID NOT LIKE THE SCENE OF HAYASE NAKED IN THE BATHTUB! WTF IS THAT? I AM NOT GAY NOR I ENJOY THAT CRAP! HIGHLIGHTS The first ecchi scenes ![]() ![]() THE ROBOTS OF JUSTICE SO TO SPEAK! ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() LineBarrels SLICING IN HALF ROBOTS!+ Who The Hell digs his own grave??? ![]() ![]() omg ur here too! |
Oct 13, 2008 12:31 PM
#44
Did anyone sub it? |
Oct 13, 2008 2:29 PM
#45
gc said: kaminakun said: The only reason people are hating this show is because of the retarded male protagonist? I don't find that a very good reason to hate a show overall. The whole point of making Koichi being an ass is so that he can be more like a real "hero" as he mature over the series, people are just jumping into conclusions with just 2 episodes. It's a waste of time trying to defend a series with bigots. Hate to say it, but its true. Jigero said: I hate it cause the whole show sucks. best argument ever Jelli said: Deal is, that's human nature. First impressions usually mean everything to a person, so when the show doesn't start off good, a lot of people are going to jump to conclusions about it. This may end up being the best show of 2008 for all we know, but a lot of people are not going to watch it all because of these first few eps. And it's completely fucking retarded, ~in my opinion~, that people do that. A lot of good series don't always have the strongest first couple episodes but people judge everything by those episodes and it's unfair. What's more retarded is that people IN EVERY SINGLE NEW GONZO SERIES, immediately accuse Gonzo of being shit by tossing around the ever so clever "gonzo'd" (is it "failzo'd" now? good one!) term. Hey, I take it some of you go to /a/ right? Do us a favor and stay over there. You're not clever. Gonzo is shit, huh? They were the ones behind Gankutsuou, NHK and Seto no Hanayome, and those were all shitty weren't they? (even if you think so, most of MAL doesn't!) What you guys fail to realize is that it's not always Gonzo's fault for everything that goes wrong, its what they have to work with. Anyway, like I said, bigots. I know it's meaningless to argue anything, so that's it for me. Geeez QQ more please. I'm sorry you have horrible taste I truley am, but last time I checked a forum is a place of opions, No where does it say, I have to like anything. Nor do I have to have give positive opions. If I'm a bigot that makes your a bleeding heart pansey. enjoy. |
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Oct 13, 2008 3:08 PM
#46
HAHAHAHA the hero is such a jerk, he seems like a Makoto bis ;) And the staff is nice too, Hisashi Hirai, Masamitsu Hidaka (Pokemon), and Ali Project, it's like heaven for the mecha haters, there's averything you could dislike in this anime, I even wonder if the producers of the show didn't plan this? Still, the ridiculously funny plot, the inconsistent characters, the strange direction, heavy use of fanservice and the loads of clichés make it enjoyable if you take it as a parody of a mecha show, I'm quite thrilled by this series actually ;) |
Oct 13, 2008 3:57 PM
#47
i haven't seen a bigger douche bag like koichi since makoto from school days, or renton from eureka 7. i hate the whole "failure of a person becoming a hero at the end" motif, or just plain obvious character flaws that make people cringe. i don't blame gonzo b/c they make good stuff, or the manga plot for i haven't read it to judge, but this anime has one the things i hate most about potentially good animes--protagonists that make you want wish for their immediate death for being such a damn....well you see where i'm going with this. |
Estoy_GordoOct 13, 2008 4:10 PM
Oct 13, 2008 4:30 PM
#48
DeathfireD said: 2) The show makes fun of almost every mecha related series ever made. People are taking this show waaayyyy to serious. Stop over analyzing every detail and just sit back and laugh at how belatedly obvious it is that their making fun of other shows in a much more serious way. Your arguments are very good, only this part is flawed. Even if you don't take a look at the manga, you can see it's not going for anything like this, they're trying to do a serious job, which they clearly cannot. There's much to criticize, they completely obliterated the original plot, specially with making Kizaki Emi play a fanservice role. The way they introduced Linebarrel screwed with a lot of things that should be happening later on; The art is horrible; The opening is by Ali Project, which many people hate because their songs are somewhat similar to each other and use very archaic and complicated japanese, but I don't have anything against them personally; The voice cast is just plain wrong(great actors chosen for the wrong roles), this one's more of a opinion, but just looking at the credits I can spot a few misfits: Mamiko Noto as Emi: before the anime aired I was happy she was going to voice someone in this series, but Emi wasn't the best choice, I was originally expecting her to voice Ishigami's secretary. Still hoping to hear more lines from her though, to see how it comes through. Sawashiro Miyuki as Satoru: this one we already heard and it came out horrible, she does the same voice she did for Kurenai. Kugimiya Rie as Izuna: He's probably coming with the voice of Rokujou Miharu, and that's bad. She'd probably do a better job as Shizuna. EDIT: Close up of the worst part of the animation: ![]() |
RandomOugiOct 13, 2008 4:40 PM
Oct 13, 2008 5:45 PM
#49
That was slightly better than the first episode, although I'm still not sure if I'll finish it. It has earned another episode trial though. |
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Oct 13, 2008 5:46 PM
#50
This is so bad that I think I'm actually not gonna drop it because of that, if that makes any sense. angel999 said: It is still cool the designs they have and the Machina are wayyyyyyy better than Gundamns ...I don't even know where to start in reply to this. Maybe with the fact that they're called Gundams, not Gundamns. |
Monkey_D_LuffyOct 13, 2008 7:07 PM
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