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Jan 12, 12:27 AM
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Proud of what Psyger-0 is doing for the team. She's a key to their strategy so protecting her was essential.

Similar to the previous episodes, this was a very intense one that relied on a combination of many attacks led by Sunraku. One of the best fight episodes imo for this arc. Sunraku and his party really pushed the limits of their powers here.
Jan 12, 12:28 AM
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I'm sorry but anytime they switch to Rei's normal voice and show us her armor and her chagrining up that, what seems to be some almighty fucking attack, I can't help but laugh out loud. But yeah, the setup from last episode paid off big time because thanks to it we got a basically fully action sakuga episode this time around, and everything looked fire yes... but HOLY FUCKKKK

That attack from Rei... the build up, the chant, the ANIMATION, THE EVERYTHING WAS SO FUCKING AMAZINGGGGGGG. That scene where everything goes back to normal for a second and then it all comes back and THE SCREEN GOES FUCKING BLACK AND WHITE HOLY SHITTTTTTTTTT. God C2C, you are fucking INSANE.

But sadly, yeah, it was a clone or whatever... xD Insane episode and arc man, don't know what to say, I'm speechless. It's up there with Weathermon FOR SURE.

Just hope that like Weathermon the series dosen't just laze around and do a whole bunch of nothing for the rest of the season.


Jan 12, 1:11 AM
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...and the curse ate him. Yup, nothing to see here! Move along folks!
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Jan 12, 1:41 AM
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insane visuals god damn
Jan 12, 2:12 AM
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Seems like Lycagon is a multi-stage boss, but it doesn't matter, this is the moment, this episode has the moment. It's the moment like this that make Shangri-la a top-tier full-dive VR online game with 30 million players worldwide.
Jan 12, 2:15 AM
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Seemed more like the mark was upgrading instead of disappearing; om nom nom.
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Jan 12, 2:40 AM
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I believe the climax is the worst part of the whole the fight.
SLF is good at introducing things during fights, but I don't like how they handled Fearsome Dragon Breath, Bamboo Lightning and Exceed Charge: Reject.
I don't think we've seen any of them until now, which makes the climax feel less impactful and the victory not earned, if that makes sense.
It's SLF during the fight with Lycagon, so I can't completely hate the episode for it.
Though I can't help but think that the climax would have been better with some tweaks...
Jan 12, 3:17 AM
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Welp,pretty much the outcome predicted that either side wouldnt actually lose at this point.But man i wished they had done an announcement of beating "Lycagon" like they did Wezaemon,well words gonna still travel anyhow.

Rei-shis ult looked so fuckin dope,wouldve been devastating if it actually wasnt enough.And Sunrakus gear also outta commissioned,wonder what he'll use against the Kraken instead.
Jan 12, 3:21 AM
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Still can’t get over how much that AWICH OP fucks!!

Great conclusion to the Lycagon fight, that’s how you fucking handle a hype boss battle in an anime. So much build up for Sunraku’s exceed charge and then Rei coming up clutch with her ult.. this was dope. But I’m really curious about the in game lore behind Lycagon now. This whole big battle was just a clone?? So how strong is the actual Lycagon?? And was that the OG that Sunraku fought last season or another clone?

It’s pretty funny Lycagon has an actual personality and likes toying with players. The devs put a ton of work into the worldbuilding of this game. I really wish we had something similar to this irl. Ff14 probably the closest.. blue protocol could’ve scratched the itch but alas.

good episode! And Rei finally got her moment to shine alongside her crush. I’m happy
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Jan 12, 3:55 AM

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Builder45 said:
Welp,pretty much the outcome predicted that either side wouldnt actually lose at this point.But man i wished they had done an announcement of beating "Lycagon" like they did Wezaemon,well words gonna still travel anyhow.

Rei-shis ult looked so fuckin dope,wouldve been devastating if it actually wasnt enough.And Sunrakus gear also outta commissioned,wonder what he'll use against the Kraken instead.

They didn’t beat her technically tho, just the clone.
Jan 12, 4:00 AM

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ANOTHER great ep

with the end of the fight

the animation is so so so good,wow

it is a real pleasure to watch SLF, with always funny scenes like the last one...

can't wait to see the next one...
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Jan 12, 4:09 AM
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What the hell just happened?!
Jan 12, 4:24 AM

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ABSOLUTE CINEMA 🔥🔥🔥 Armageddon looked fking insane even tho it was just a clone that was amazing still a W regardless
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Jan 12, 4:27 AM
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To sum up entire episode:

Jan 12, 4:47 AM

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Well, it was kinda obvious that they wouldn’t be able to defeat Lycagon, thanks to the new OP and ED spoiling that the mark wouldn’t disappear. But I thought another player would interrupt their fight, not that Lycagon would just turn out to be another clone, defeating which is a condition for obtaining a unique quest to fight the real one.

Marinate1016 said:
And was that the OG that Sunraku fought last season or another clone?


I haven't read the manga, but I'm sure players can't fight the OG one unless they have a unique quest. Even Sunraku says at the end of this episode that it was just a shadow that gave him this mark.
Jan 12, 5:45 AM

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Lol, He got eaten and died? XD
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Jan 12, 5:46 AM

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holy fuckin FIREEE!
Rei-shi's Armageddon was such an eargasm and eyegasm, love the monochromatic effects!

I was seriously thinking that this Lycagon fight was way too easy? Tho just thought that Sunraku has higher level and better skills/equipment now so maybe that's why... but im so glad that it wasn't even the real thing!! The Lycagon hype continues!

Wonder what was that cute Lycagon about lol, Sunraku got eaten and probably got isekai'd to Lycagon's trial or something.
Jan 12, 5:52 AM
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The opening elite. The animation for Armageddon elite. Seeing everyone's trump card👏🏾👏🏾👏🏾👏🏾. The Lycagon is the biggest troll ever she was having so much fun toying with them😂. Finding out that wasn't her real form blew me away. Do you mean to tell me her clone is that strong????? We can assume her clone doesn't have all the power she does. So if they take her on will they be fighting the real her plus her two clones😂😂
Jan 12, 5:56 AM
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Reply to gorkthe134th
I believe the climax is the worst part of the whole the fight.
SLF is good at introducing things during fights, but I don't like how they handled Fearsome Dragon Breath, Bamboo Lightning and Exceed Charge: Reject.
I don't think we've seen any of them until now, which makes the climax feel less impactful and the victory not earned, if that makes sense.
It's SLF during the fight with Lycagon, so I can't completely hate the episode for it.
Though I can't help but think that the climax would have been better with some tweaks...
@gorkthe134th Bro, what that makes no sense?
gorkthe134th said:
I don't like how they handled Fearsome Dragon Breath, Bamboo Lightning and Exceed Charge: Reject.
I don't think we've seen any of them until now, which makes the climax feel less impactful and the victory not earned

Of course, we haven't seen the previous abilities. We just met two of the characters, and Sunraku only just made his new weapons. Also, it is a trump card that takes a whole week to recover, so he wouldn't be using that ability willy-nilly, and it can only be used at night.
Jan 12, 6:11 AM

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@gorkthe134th Bro, what that makes no sense?
gorkthe134th said:
I don't like how they handled Fearsome Dragon Breath, Bamboo Lightning and Exceed Charge: Reject.
I don't think we've seen any of them until now, which makes the climax feel less impactful and the victory not earned

Of course, we haven't seen the previous abilities. We just met two of the characters, and Sunraku only just made his new weapons. Also, it is a trump card that takes a whole week to recover, so he wouldn't be using that ability willy-nilly, and it can only be used at night.
@The_Black_B3ast And how does Sunraku know that? He just got his weapons, skipped Bilac explanation of how it works, skipped reading the docs when offered and then started his time with Rei using daggers up to this point.


@gorkthe134th is right. SFL does amazing long fights, be this, Wethermon or the golden Scorpion among others, and whether they are carefully preplanned like Wethermon or with completely improvised tactics like now Lycagon, they are all grounded in a strategy taking advantage of the skillset already displayed previously... until the final moments which always get an asspull to finish it, which is a same after all the episodes. Talking about the Exceed Charge, both Akitsukane and Ceecrue have more leverage since they just got introduced.
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Jan 12, 6:15 AM

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Rei attack might be the finest shoot since Wethermon sky clear, amazing.

Good fight, guess the new skill might be to disperse shadows to reveal Lycagon's true nature, given by the eyes which are like a mask on the wolf face, maybe some kind of sorcerer from the divine era?
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Jan 12, 6:45 AM

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They managed to defeat Lycagon—well, sort of. It was just a copy, but that doesn’t make the victory any less impressive. If the copy was that strong, I can’t even imagine how overwhelming the original must be. Poor Sunraku, though—it seems Lycagon has a personal obsession with trolling him. Those cursed marks might just stick around and become an even bigger nuisance. 😅

I do have a question, though: can only those who passed the trial of the copy enter the special scenario to face the original Lycagon? Or can they bring along teammates who haven’t beaten the copy yet? If not, then Pencilgon and the others would have to track down and defeat a copy themselves—and that’s no easy task.

Either way, it was an intense and well-executed battle.
Jan 12, 6:54 AM

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What a drag they didn't get to beat the real Lycagon. And how ironic to get eaten at the end. This series has the bitchiest cliff hangers.
Jan 12, 7:23 AM

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@gorkthe134th Bro, what that makes no sense?
gorkthe134th said:
I don't like how they handled Fearsome Dragon Breath, Bamboo Lightning and Exceed Charge: Reject.
I don't think we've seen any of them until now, which makes the climax feel less impactful and the victory not earned

Of course, we haven't seen the previous abilities. We just met two of the characters, and Sunraku only just made his new weapons. Also, it is a trump card that takes a whole week to recover, so he wouldn't be using that ability willy-nilly, and it can only be used at night.
@The_Black_B3ast There is something I didn't like about this episode and I am myself trying to figure out what it is.
As I said, SLF is usually good at introducing things during fights, but for some reason these felt different to me.
It may be that the reason for using those abilities was not clear to me the first time I watched it.
I think I misunderstood the line: "If it's hiding in the dark, then I just have to light it up!" (Maybe I even missed it entirely...)
So I was confused about why Akane started attacking instead of trying to dodge.
And then I didn't understand what Bamboo Lightning does; I thought it was also meant to be an attack that requires fire to work, for some reason...
In general, I thought they ware waiting for Rei to finish her chant, so I got confused when I thought they started attacking.
As for Exceed Charge, what @CorbanEsp said is true, it is a shame that SLF has a habit of ending its big fights using a surprise skill / ability.
On the bright side, this doesn't mean Sunraku wins just because he is lucky; he did plan to use the skill / ability in question, we just didn't know it.
I would like to rewatch one of these fights to see if they feel better knowing what skills the characters can use, it's just hard to find the time do so.
Jan 12, 7:32 AM
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This needs to be in the Animation of the Year Category 🔥, Holy shit MAPPA who??
Jan 12, 7:48 AM
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does someone remember that the original goal was to reach the sailor town?
Jan 12, 8:18 AM
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absolute fucking cinema
if an episode like this doesnt manifest this show as one of the best modern battle shounen then i dont know what does
Jan 12, 8:21 AM
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Holy shit that black and white nuclear blast was ABSOLUTE CINEMA! This show never misses when it comes to the battle climax!

Also Lycagon trolling Sunraku is just hilarious lol
Jan 12, 8:22 AM
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I'm speechless. To be honest the fight did feel like it was dragging at about the halfway point but the climax was absolutely worth it. I would love to see a different cut of the fight against Lycagon., something with less internal monologue. I'm no stranger to anime so while I get it, I think the fight as a whole could be condensed to be faster paced. Just wishful thinking. Rei's Armageddon alone was well worth the watch and unquestionably earns her the title of Attack Master. Seriously that has to be one in the top five anime attacks up there with Saber's Excalibur
Jan 12, 8:28 AM

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Welp,pretty much the outcome predicted that either side wouldnt actually lose at this point.But man i wished they had done an announcement of beating "Lycagon" like they did Wezaemon,well words gonna still travel anyhow.

Rei-shis ult looked so fuckin dope,wouldve been devastating if it actually wasnt enough.And Sunrakus gear also outta commissioned,wonder what he'll use against the Kraken instead.
@Builder45 I guess you don't pay attention. It's not the real Lycagon. it's just the clone. They beat it and got the EX scenario to fight the real one.
Jan 12, 9:09 AM
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@Builder45 I guess you don't pay attention. It's not the real Lycagon. it's just the clone. They beat it and got the EX scenario to fight the real one.
@DJKuroinu Or maybe you just dont know what the " was used for.
Jan 12, 9:18 AM
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The lycagon fight ended about as predicted, with that shadow wolf slithering off before being properly defeated. Talk about a crazy fight overall! Everyone contributing to beating that big pup. Rei casting her incantation to unleash her ultimate skill attack. Sunraku using his own new weapons charged up attack. Using the mana from the moon to blast right at the wolf, very ironic using moon energy since she hates the moonlight. We got some very flashy and pretty animation in this episode. With the fight reaching its climax it was nice seeing with everyone's strongest attacks we got some sweet animation. Sunraku pulling out all his stops to buy Rei time to say all of her incantation. When she's finally able to use her ultimate attack it looked so badass!! The black and white effect on the screen made it incredible visually. Rei managed to land the hit but of course lycagon has some sort of trick up It's sleeve. Even the shadow wolf we've seen them fighting is just another clone, with the real lycagon remote piloting from another location. That's a wild revelation honestly, no ones ever beaten lycagon like that to find out this information until now. Sunraku definitely didn't get his curse markings removed, but he's learned valuable information for the next battle against the shadow wolf
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Brah awesome attack from reishi, and to think they only defeated a clone. I had a feeling that was the case, especially when lycagon used a clone to fight with when shadows appeared.

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Jan 12, 9:26 AM

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Jan 12, 9:45 AM

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This episode was fire! Psyger-0’s Armaggedon Ultimate was insane, the animation was next level! Rei’s incantation had me on the edge of my seat, and Sunraku revealing the Gilta Brill’s ultimate was such a great moment. The ending was totally unexpected and hilarious, with the mark turning into a chibi Lycagon head and biting Sunraku. Everything was just perfect—10/10!
Jan 12, 10:28 AM
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Damn bro the animation team went stupid and gave Rei the respect she deserves on that finisher
Jan 12, 10:37 AM
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But seriously, what is with that ending? Cliffhanger much. So she isn't really dead. Is this something to do with his curse?
Jan 12, 10:42 AM

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They finally "defeated" that creature. And it seems like he's going to have a pet dog now.
Jan 12, 10:50 AM

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the ending was so cute, lycagon had a lil bird snack fr.

also, as usual, massive respect to c2c/ the staff for giving us such raw and godly animation. sound fx was orgasmic too
insane sequence
Jan 12, 10:56 AM
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what a amazing animation
Jan 12, 11:40 AM
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Well, that ending was unexpected. Wonder how he's going to come out of the wolf head. I feel like being half naked is his thing, so they'll find a way to have him keep the curse, just...changed somehow.
Jan 12, 11:49 AM
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Builder45 said:
Welp,pretty much the outcome predicted that either side wouldnt actually lose at this point.But man i wished they had done an announcement of beating "Lycagon" like they did Wezaemon,well words gonna still travel anyhow.

Rei-shis ult looked so fuckin dope,wouldve been devastating if it actually wasnt enough.And Sunrakus gear also outta commissioned,wonder what he'll use against the Kraken instead.

Yes! or at least like an announcement that phase 1 had been completed which would have hit so hard that A) they did something no one had yet, B) one of the members was the same, and C) the Colossi can have more than one battle which essentially increases the count of insane white knuckle battles that the player base needs to collectively win. (And if you have to beat phase one to get to phase two, it tells everyone that the race is on!)
Jan 12, 12:00 PM

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Ok so Sunraku and team beating Lycagon, or a shadow version of it, was kind of like phase 1 of this fight and the potential real Lycagon is next, at least it makes this boss almost as impressive as Wethermon so far. Also, Lycagon "eating" Sunraku is probably a troll move or something and lastly I wonder if Sunraku still plans on meeting Rust and Mold, guess he'll be pulling an all-nighter to get to the meeting place.
Jan 12, 12:20 PM
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what what what the fuck
Jan 12, 12:46 PM
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wth happened?...........
Jan 12, 1:09 PM
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They really cooked with the armageddon
Jan 12, 1:19 PM
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SIMPLY ABSURD!

All the effects with the animation and build up for what was basically a double climax, sound track coming in the perfect moment, all that combined into perfection.

That plot twist at the end was really unexpected, the author and the director really know how to make someone crave for more!
Jan 12, 1:56 PM
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I can’t believe that Lycagon was not the real one. Either way, they managed to defeat him as a team, so it’s still a win.

Finally, Sunraku is getting his mark off from his body and he can wear armor now:)

What was with the final scene? I hope Sunraku didn’t die.

The OP and ED themes are so good… If it weren’t for Psyger-0, they wouldn’t have beaten Lycagon.

Sunraku, Arthur and Oikatzo defeated Wethermon way easier.
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ARMAGEDDON!!! C2C COOKINGGGGG
Jan 12, 2:04 PM
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kinda glad they didn't win, given how much prep they needed for weathermon, beating lycagon with none would be strange

ending was pretty jokes 😃
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