Raise wa Tanin ga Ii Episode 12 Discussion

That's it ???? There's no closure on anything and there's two cliffhangers (the old farts and the young one and his flyer), three if you count the call from Shouma...
I'm maaad They better make a season 2 for this!

Also come on that scene in the opening where she's wet and he runs with her in his arms wasn't in the series at all, I feel so played boouuuh
At least the ending scene where she sleep was kinda cute... I guess ?

They better make a second season or I'll riot. Just like I thought, the anime ended with chapter 26, such a pity we didn't get chapters 29, 30 and 31 that got teased in the opening so they better make a second season and hopefully the manga hiatus will end, it's been almost a year.

The cream scene was the most lewd handholding scene in anime/manga history, Kirishima definitely has a few screws loose. But the last scene with Kirishima checking Yoshino was just asleep and nothing bad happened to her was so adorable, don't skip that scene after the ending song. While the animation wasn't that great, the story and characters carried this anime hard, so it's an 8 out of 10 for me.

Guys if you liked the story and want a second season please buy the manga volumes to support the author and to make the studio want to do a second season.

@-Hotaru_ Yup, I'm joining this riot if they don't make season 2.

That's an interesting thing you pointed out, if you read the manga, you'll find out Kirishima's backstory with his friend in chapters 33, 34 and 35, in chapter 35 it also shows the flashback when he bought the train ticket at age 12 to see Yoshino (he told Tsubaki that story in episode 5) that's a great scene. Since the anime ended at chapter 26 and there are only 38 chapters, you'll find the answers to your questions quite soon.




Yes, this scene is in the manga as well, but not from a chapter but from a bonus mini-chapter at the end of the volume, every volume has a couple of bonus mini-chapters at the end, most weren't adapted but this one was. I knew they were going to adapt this scene because a few seconds from it appear in the second trailer.




I agree, I really love the more mature art style and not the kiddy, huge-eyed art style of most anime but like you said, the animation quality is left to be desired, it's quite static and not the most fluid. It's quite obvious they had a small budget to adapt this series.

And with this episode, we have to say goodbye to Yakuza Fiancé

Let's talk about this episode first.

Overall, this episode showed us how much more dependent Kirishima has become of Yoshino, to the point he goes crazy when she doesn't talk to him for 72 hours. This ends up showing how attached he already is to her, and that he, in his own way, truly loves her. Funny how the other Yakuza members were just done with him while he was trying everything for Yoshino to talk to him.
It is then revealed that Yoshino was doing this, because of what he did to Shouma earlier in the anime. I really liked this scene, because it not only showed how Yoshino cares for Shouma and how she's disturbed by the fact that Shouma had to pay the consequences of something that he wasn't responsible for, but also that she's punishing Kirishima for not thinking about his acts and how it affects other people, and ending up no trusting Yoshino (he needed to involve Shouma, because he didn't want to involve Yoshino, which might be a sign that he doesn't really trust that she will get the job done). It also shows that Yoshino does have something for Kirishima, because she ended up doing the same she does for Shouma, that is like a brother to her, to Kirishima.

In this very scene we also get some backstory about Kirishima, and once again it shows just how lonely he is, he doesn't have a single friend, and the one time he tried to have one friend, something went wrong. This is hinting for a lot of trauma to unpack, and I'm not sure if Kirishima really is over that situation. I wonder if this friend he was talking about is Azami, the guy from earlier, since they must be around the same age, Kirishima knew him before, and I don't know, it seems like the anime would want to connect them somehow.

This episode was also important, because after all this pretty talk, it showed us once again that Kirishima really is still crazy and a pervert, in the way that he sexualized the cream situation. That scene also gave Yoshino another reason to always have some distance from Kirishima, because he ended up abusing her confidence. And what the hell was he fetishing about? Licking his own liquid from Yoshino's hands? Guess is better to not think much about it. But the truth is that he once again scared Yoshino.
I loved how the anime directed this scene, because they really showed the horror and fear Yoshino felt during those moments, and just how disturbing the situation was.

This episode also confirmed something we were guessing long ago, and that the Renji's yakuza clan is having some internal fights, and it seems that one of the higher ups is trying to do something, and is trying to get Renji out of the picture so that he can do that. This shows that Renji really sent Yoshino to Tokyo so protect her from these internal affairs. ALSO, SHOUMA BOY IS FINE, HE WASN'T HURT IN THE PROCESS. It seems like the guy from the other Yakuza has something to do with this, as well Azami, and we see that Azami got beaten by that Yakuza guy. Also, Azami and the perm guy are working together, and their target seems to be Yoshino, and they are thinking of doing the school exams or something to get close to her.

The weird thing about this episode was how it ended. The episode ended with a scene of Kirishima buying gifts for Yoshino, and then coming to her home, to find her laying on the ground. It showed that he was really concerned about her well being, and after realizing that she was just sleeping, you could see that he is relieved, and ends up just laying down with her, apreciating her beauty. Then Shouma calls Yoshino, but she obviously doesn't answer, since she's sleeping. And then the episode ends. Like, what was this supposed to show? That Kirishima really loves her? I mean, we already got that earlier this episode, and it's not the 1st time he does something similar.
I feel like this scene was just to tell the Yoshino X Shouma shipper that "Y'all better shut up, that is not happening, it's Yoshino X Kirishima and you gotta deal with it", because other than that I have no other explanation for them to end the anime with that scene. Maybe to give some kind of conclusion to whom Yoshino is going to be at the end, since it's unlikely we'll get another season of this?
Is this scene even in the manga?

So, overall, I really liked the content of the episode, it once again worked really well the characters and the relationship between Kirihima and Yoshino, while also building up the next story arc, but at the same it didn't feel like a final episode at all. The scenes before the ending were going in that direction, but barely, and the final scene I already explained why it didn't even make much sense. It's kinda weird the anime ended this way, but ok I guess, nothing too outrageous.

Now, I have to say that this anime surprised me a lot. I feel like it differs from other romance anime, by the strong role the female protagonist has in this toxic relationship, taking place in a violent setting. Yoshino is for real one of the best characters, and you just end up the anime wanting her to have the best of the best. After the 1st episode, I wasn't expecting much, but the anime continued to surprise me episode after episode, and these last episodes were really good, with this Osaka arc.
I mean, with this long post I think you can see that I really enjoyed the anime. It's refreshing and interesting, and that's all it needs to call your attention. I also really enjoyed the artwork (remember when I said in the 1st episode that I didn't like it? Yeah, now I really enjoy the artstyle, it's really unique, and I feel that it helps to show that it's a more mature anime).

Now, the anime certainly has its negatives. I can point out 2 main ones. The 1st aspect is the animation. Well, we all knew the animation wasn't going to be that great, but I perfectly remember episode 6 for being atrocious in the animation. A lot of the fight scenes also didn't have the impact that they could have due to the poor animation. Coming from a studio that doesn't have a good reputation in that regard, it isn't unexepected, but I feel like it holding back the original material with this. The other point was with how the adaptation was done, because I really feel like the first 4 episodes of the anime felt really rushed, especially the 1st episode. They were trying to cramp as much content as possible in those episodes to get to the Osaka arc, which I understand why they did that, but it's still a shame those first few chapters didn't get adapted in their full glory, since that damaged my enjoyment of the anime. And it's kinda weird considering that they could have opted for a 13 episode anime, instead of only doing 12 episodes, but I guess that would sum a lot of costs to the anime, that they probably don't have money for.

But overall, this anime is a easy score for me. I'm going to score this one a solid 8/10. I really feel like with the 2 aspects I mentioned corrected, it could have been easily a 9/10, but this is what we got, and I'm honestly fine with it. I really hope we could get a 2nd season to this, but that's pratically impossible, since I don't see the anime doing enough numbers for that, and the original source doesn't even have enough content for a 2nd season, and it has been on hiatus for a long time now. But I would really apreciate to see the rest of the chapter that have been released adapted, even if it's in the forms of OVAs or a movie. One can dream, right?

Edit: Also, let's not forget the amazing pair that we got with the Opening and the Ending! Will miss them very much, but fortunately both are on my playlist on Spotify! I was expecting the opening to be good, because we are talking about The Oral Cigarettes, but Yoshino surprised me with the ending! Didn't know her, but the song is really good! And it's funny that she has the same name as the female main character of the anime.

Thank you to everyone that took their time to comment on these forums and share opinions or facts about the anime! It was a pleasure to discuss this anime weekly for these past 12 weeks. I'm certainly going to miss it! Merry Christmas for y'all, and a Happy New Year!

And with this episode, we have to say goodbye to Yakuza Fiancé

Let's talk about this episode first.

Overall, this episode showed us how much more dependent Kirishima has become of Yoshino, to the point he goes crazy when she doesn't talk to him for 72 hours. This ends up showing how attached he already is to her, and that he, in his own way, truly loves her. Funny how the other Yakuza members were just done with him while he was trying everything for Yoshino to talk to him.
It is then revealed that Yoshino was doing this, because of what he did to Shouma earlier in the anime. I really liked this scene, because it not only showed how Yoshino cares for Shouma and how she's disturbed by the fact that Shouma had to pay the consequences of something that he wasn't responsible for, but also that she's punishing Kirishima for not thinking about his acts and how it affects other people, and ending up no trusting Yoshino (he needed to involve Shouma, because he didn't want to involve Yoshino, which might be a sign that he doesn't really trust that she will get the job done). It also shows that Yoshino does have something for Kirishima, because she ended up doing the same she does for Shouma, that is like a brother to her, to Kirishima.

In this very scene we also get some backstory about Kirishima, and once again it shows just how lonely he is, he doesn't have a single friend, and the one time he tried to have one friend, something went wrong. This is hinting for a lot of trauma to unpack, and I'm not sure if Kirishima really is over that situation. I wonder if this friend he was talking about is Azami, the guy from earlier, since they must be around the same age, Kirishima knew him before, and I don't know, it seems like the anime would want to connect them somehow.

This episode was also important, because after all this pretty talk, it showed us once again that Kirishima really is still crazy and a pervert, in the way that he sexualized the cream situation. That scene also gave Yoshino another reason to always have some distance from Kirishima, because he ended up abusing her confidence. And what the hell was he fetishing about? Licking his own liquid from Yoshino's hands? Guess is better to not think much about it. But the truth is that he once again scared Yoshino.
I loved how the anime directed this scene, because they really showed the horror and fear Yoshino felt during those moments, and just how disturbing the situation was.

This episode also confirmed something we were guessing long ago, and that the Renji's yakuza clan is having some internal fights, and it seems that one of the higher ups is trying to do something, and is trying to get Renji out of the picture so that he can do that. This shows that Renji really sent Yoshino to Tokyo so protect her from these internal affairs. ALSO, SHOUMA BOY IS FINE, HE WASN'T HURT IN THE PROCESS. It seems like the guy from the other Yakuza has something to do with this, as well Azami, and we see that Azami got beaten by that Yakuza guy. Also, Azami and the perm guy are working together, and their target seems to be Yoshino, and they are thinking of doing the school exams or something to get close to her.

The weird thing about this episode was how it ended. The episode ended with a scene of Kirishima buying gifts for Yoshino, and then coming to her home, to find her laying on the ground. It showed that he was really concerned about her well being, and after realizing that she was just sleeping, you could see that he is relieved, and ends up just laying down with her, apreciating her beauty. Then Shouma calls Yoshino, but she obviously doesn't answer, since she's sleeping. And then the episode ends. Like, what was this supposed to show? That Kirishima really loves her? I mean, we already got that earlier this episode, and it's not the 1st time he does something similar.
I feel like this scene was just to tell the Yoshino X Shouma shipper that "Y'all better shut up, that is not happening, it's Yoshino X Kirishima and you gotta deal with it", because other than that I have no other explanation for them to end the anime with that scene. Maybe to give some kind of conclusion to whom Yoshino is going to be at the end, since it's unlikely we'll get another season of this?
Is this scene even in the manga?

So, overall, I really liked the content of the episode, it once again worked really well the characters and the relationship between Kirihima and Yoshino, while also building up the next story arc, but at the same it didn't feel like a final episode at all. The scenes before the ending were going in that direction, but barely, and the final scene I already explained why it didn't even make much sense. It's kinda weird the anime ended this way, but ok I guess, nothing too outrageous.

Now, I have to say that this anime surprised me a lot. I feel like it differs from other romance anime, by the strong role the female protagonist has in this toxic relationship, taking place in a violent setting. Yoshino is for real one of the best characters, and you just end up the anime wanting her to have the best of the best. After the 1st episode, I wasn't expecting much, but the anime continued to surprise me episode after episode, and these last episodes were really good, with this Osaka arc.
I mean, with this long post I think you can see that I really enjoyed the anime. It's refreshing and interesting, and that's all it needs to call your attention. I also really enjoyed the artwork (remember when I said in the 1st episode that I didn't like it? Yeah, now I really enjoy the artstyle, it's really unique, and I feel that it helps to show that it's a more mature anime).

Now, the anime certainly has its negatives. I can point out 2 main ones. The 1st aspect is the animation. Well, we all knew the animation wasn't going to be that great, but I perfectly remember episode 6 for being atrocious in the animation. A lot of the fight scenes also didn't have the impact that they could have due to the poor animation. Coming from a studio that doesn't have a good reputation in that regard, it isn't unexepected, but I feel like it holding back the original material with this. The other point was with how the adaptation was done, because I really feel like the first 4 episodes of the anime felt really rushed, especially the 1st episode. They were trying to cramp as much content as possible in those episodes to get to the Osaka arc, which I understand why they did that, but it's still a shame those first few chapters didn't get adapted in their full glory, since that damaged my enjoyment of the anime. And it's kinda weird considering that they could have opted for a 13 episode anime, instead of only doing 12 episodes, but I guess that would sum a lot of costs to the anime, that they probably don't have money for.

But overall, this anime is a easy score for me. I'm going to score this one a solid 8/10. I really feel like with the 2 aspects I mentioned corrected, it could have been easily a 9/10, but this is what we got, and I'm honestly fine with it. I really hope we could get a 2nd season to this, but that's pratically impossible, since I don't see the anime doing enough numbers for that, and the original source doesn't even have enough content for a 2nd season, and it has been on hiatus for a long time now. But I would really apreciate to see the rest of the chapter that have been released adapted, even if it's in the forms of OVAs or a movie. One can dream, right?

Edit: Also, let's not forget the amazing pair that we got with the Opening and the Ending! Will miss them very much, but fortunately both are on my playlist on Spotify! I was expecting the opening to be good, because we are talking about The Oral Cigarettes, but Yoshino surprised me with the ending! Didn't know her, but the song is really good! And it's funny that she has the same name as the female main character of the anime.

Thank you to everyone that took their time to comment on these forums and share opinions or facts about the anime! It was a pleasure to discuss this anime weekly for these past 12 weeks. I'm certainly going to miss it! Merry Christmas for y'all, and a Happy New Year!

I will always have a chip on my shoulder over how most all anime’s prioritize channeling audiences over to the manga over telling a story that feels complete. I get it, the the industry puts business before art, and that’s just how it is. 🤷🏻‍♀️annoying though

And with this episode, we have to say goodbye to Yakuza Fiancé

Let's talk about this episode first.

Overall, this episode showed us how much more dependent Kirishima has become of Yoshino, to the point he goes crazy when she doesn't talk to him for 72 hours. This ends up showing how attached he already is to her, and that he, in his own way, truly loves her. Funny how the other Yakuza members were just done with him while he was trying everything for Yoshino to talk to him.
It is then revealed that Yoshino was doing this, because of what he did to Shouma earlier in the anime. I really liked this scene, because it not only showed how Yoshino cares for Shouma and how she's disturbed by the fact that Shouma had to pay the consequences of something that he wasn't responsible for, but also that she's punishing Kirishima for not thinking about his acts and how it affects other people, and ending up no trusting Yoshino (he needed to involve Shouma, because he didn't want to involve Yoshino, which might be a sign that he doesn't really trust that she will get the job done). It also shows that Yoshino does have something for Kirishima, because she ended up doing the same she does for Shouma, that is like a brother to her, to Kirishima.

In this very scene we also get some backstory about Kirishima, and once again it shows just how lonely he is, he doesn't have a single friend, and the one time he tried to have one friend, something went wrong. This is hinting for a lot of trauma to unpack, and I'm not sure if Kirishima really is over that situation. I wonder if this friend he was talking about is Azami, the guy from earlier, since they must be around the same age, Kirishima knew him before, and I don't know, it seems like the anime would want to connect them somehow.

This episode was also important, because after all this pretty talk, it showed us once again that Kirishima really is still crazy and a pervert, in the way that he sexualized the cream situation. That scene also gave Yoshino another reason to always have some distance from Kirishima, because he ended up abusing her confidence. And what the hell was he fetishing about? Licking his own liquid from Yoshino's hands? Guess is better to not think much about it. But the truth is that he once again scared Yoshino.
I loved how the anime directed this scene, because they really showed the horror and fear Yoshino felt during those moments, and just how disturbing the situation was.

This episode also confirmed something we were guessing long ago, and that the Renji's yakuza clan is having some internal fights, and it seems that one of the higher ups is trying to do something, and is trying to get Renji out of the picture so that he can do that. This shows that Renji really sent Yoshino to Tokyo so protect her from these internal affairs. ALSO, SHOUMA BOY IS FINE, HE WASN'T HURT IN THE PROCESS. It seems like the guy from the other Yakuza has something to do with this, as well Azami, and we see that Azami got beaten by that Yakuza guy. Also, Azami and the perm guy are working together, and their target seems to be Yoshino, and they are thinking of doing the school exams or something to get close to her.

The weird thing about this episode was how it ended. The episode ended with a scene of Kirishima buying gifts for Yoshino, and then coming to her home, to find her laying on the ground. It showed that he was really concerned about her well being, and after realizing that she was just sleeping, you could see that he is relieved, and ends up just laying down with her, apreciating her beauty. Then Shouma calls Yoshino, but she obviously doesn't answer, since she's sleeping. And then the episode ends. Like, what was this supposed to show? That Kirishima really loves her? I mean, we already got that earlier this episode, and it's not the 1st time he does something similar.
I feel like this scene was just to tell the Yoshino X Shouma shipper that "Y'all better shut up, that is not happening, it's Yoshino X Kirishima and you gotta deal with it", because other than that I have no other explanation for them to end the anime with that scene. Maybe to give some kind of conclusion to whom Yoshino is going to be at the end, since it's unlikely we'll get another season of this?
Is this scene even in the manga?

So, overall, I really liked the content of the episode, it once again worked really well the characters and the relationship between Kirihima and Yoshino, while also building up the next story arc, but at the same it didn't feel like a final episode at all. The scenes before the ending were going in that direction, but barely, and the final scene I already explained why it didn't even make much sense. It's kinda weird the anime ended this way, but ok I guess, nothing too outrageous.

Now, I have to say that this anime surprised me a lot. I feel like it differs from other romance anime, by the strong role the female protagonist has in this toxic relationship, taking place in a violent setting. Yoshino is for real one of the best characters, and you just end up the anime wanting her to have the best of the best. After the 1st episode, I wasn't expecting much, but the anime continued to surprise me episode after episode, and these last episodes were really good, with this Osaka arc.
I mean, with this long post I think you can see that I really enjoyed the anime. It's refreshing and interesting, and that's all it needs to call your attention. I also really enjoyed the artwork (remember when I said in the 1st episode that I didn't like it? Yeah, now I really enjoy the artstyle, it's really unique, and I feel that it helps to show that it's a more mature anime).

Now, the anime certainly has its negatives. I can point out 2 main ones. The 1st aspect is the animation. Well, we all knew the animation wasn't going to be that great, but I perfectly remember episode 6 for being atrocious in the animation. A lot of the fight scenes also didn't have the impact that they could have due to the poor animation. Coming from a studio that doesn't have a good reputation in that regard, it isn't unexepected, but I feel like it holding back the original material with this. The other point was with how the adaptation was done, because I really feel like the first 4 episodes of the anime felt really rushed, especially the 1st episode. They were trying to cramp as much content as possible in those episodes to get to the Osaka arc, which I understand why they did that, but it's still a shame those first few chapters didn't get adapted in their full glory, since that damaged my enjoyment of the anime. And it's kinda weird considering that they could have opted for a 13 episode anime, instead of only doing 12 episodes, but I guess that would sum a lot of costs to the anime, that they probably don't have money for.

But overall, this anime is a easy score for me. I'm going to score this one a solid 8/10. I really feel like with the 2 aspects I mentioned corrected, it could have been easily a 9/10, but this is what we got, and I'm honestly fine with it. I really hope we could get a 2nd season to this, but that's pratically impossible, since I don't see the anime doing enough numbers for that, and the original source doesn't even have enough content for a 2nd season, and it has been on hiatus for a long time now. But I would really apreciate to see the rest of the chapter that have been released adapted, even if it's in the forms of OVAs or a movie. One can dream, right?

Edit: Also, let's not forget the amazing pair that we got with the Opening and the Ending! Will miss them very much, but fortunately both are on my playlist on Spotify! I was expecting the opening to be good, because we are talking about The Oral Cigarettes, but Yoshino surprised me with the ending! Didn't know her, but the song is really good! And it's funny that she has the same name as the female main character of the anime.

Thank you to everyone that took their time to comment on these forums and share opinions or facts about the anime! It was a pleasure to discuss this anime weekly for these past 12 weeks. I'm certainly going to miss it! Merry Christmas for y'all, and a Happy New Year!

@Yasminaa

Riot by Three Days Grace is the background audio for our riot lol.

That's it ???? There's no closure on anything and there's two cliffhangers (the old farts and the young one and his flyer), three if you count the call from Shouma...
I'm maaad They better make a season 2 for this!

Also come on that scene in the opening where she's wet and he runs with her in his arms wasn't in the series at all, I feel so played boouuuh
At least the ending scene where she sleep was kinda cute... I guess ?

The cream... That's some slasher movie shit.

Raise wa Tanin is an anime that tries to do two different things at once. We've got a trashy, dysfunctional romance between the main characters, and we've also got yakuzas beating the shit out of each other. Question is, will people who came for one also enjoy the other? I myself was here for the latter, but can somewhat appreciate the psychological battles between Yoshino and Kirishima.

Main complaints are the art style needing some getting used to, and the fact that it takes way too long to pick up. Side characters and villains are whatever. Kind of wish Tsubaki got more screentime.

7/10 is the highest I can go. I lack the necessary juices to enjoy this title to the fullest extent. Yoshino's beautiful, at least.

So does this mean we're getting a second season? If not, that's a real sucky ending

Regardless, this has screamed to the top of my list of animes that need to be remade, by a studio that knows WTF they are doing.

I will always have a chip on my shoulder over how most all anime’s prioritize channeling audiences over to the manga over telling a story that feels complete. I get it, the the industry puts business before art, and that’s just how it is. 🤷🏻‍♀️annoying though

Kinda sad that happens, I hope at least this ends up boosting the manga sales, because that way we might see a 2nd season of this!

@joemaamah if you buy and read the manga

@SoulReaper85 Homie don't do manga 😆

can't believe there are no s2 announcement for this while other stupid shows get s2, s3 and so on *facepalm*

@joemaamah well you won't know what happens next if you don't read it since the anime is never the complete story

I want season 2 NOW!!!

@Yasminaa SAME. I know we're in December, but it seems so unfair 🥲