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Aug 25, 2017 8:23 AM
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THIS IS AN ANIME ONLY DISCUSSION POST. DO NOT DISCUSS THE MANGA BEYOND THIS EPISODE.
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Heh, I think it's kinda unique with what they did with the cardboard narrative in the beginning.

So the reminiscence episodes began this week with some baseball drama. Once again, human emotions takes people to make an offering wih Ai. The content is pretty much exactly the same as Season 1, episode 3. (The Tarnished Mound)

This episode honestly gave me nostolgia.
Aug 25, 2017 10:21 AM
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so umm that cardboard at beginning was interesthing...

and so the rest episode gonna be like this now? just use exactly the same clip from older season!? i mean even the song outro (the candle scene) still have ss1 ED than suddenly cut to new ED

jezz why just don't make 6 episode instead or why make new season at all UGHHHH

i hope something happen in the last episode at least to close some stuff out
Aug 25, 2017 10:26 AM
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That intro was comedy gold, i think they have done something similar before with that mangaka guy in season 3, but it's nice to see there is something new (even if it is insignificant) in the reminiscence episodes and it's not simply a rerun.

Was there something wrong with Ai's voice or is it just me? I feel like her voice sounded different than usual.
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Aug 25, 2017 10:33 AM
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So this is exactly same as the the ones in season 1 with no changes ?
Aug 25, 2017 10:37 AM
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I would've waited a season or two if it meant getting another 6 episodes.
Now I gotta wait one or two years to see the new jigoku shoujo do her stuff.
Aug 25, 2017 11:08 AM
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Now that's the old jigoku shoujo, but well... If it's gonna be like this till the end of the season, I don't think there is much purpose to this new season...
Aug 25, 2017 11:09 AM
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Mouloxas said:
That intro was comedy gold, i think they have done something similar before with that mangaka guy in season 3, but it's nice to see there is something new (even if it is insignificant) in the reminiscence episodes and it's not simply a rerun.

Was there something wrong with Ai's voice or is it just me? I feel like her voice sounded different than usual.


this is from season 1.
Aug 25, 2017 11:14 AM
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wolfwing said:
Mouloxas said:
That intro was comedy gold, i think they have done something similar before with that mangaka guy in season 3, but it's nice to see there is something new (even if it is insignificant) in the reminiscence episodes and it's not simply a rerun.

Was there something wrong with Ai's voice or is it just me? I feel like her voice sounded different than usual.


this is from season 1.


Just me then. I suppose it's been a while since i last watched season 1.
Aug 25, 2017 11:34 AM
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Mouloxas said:
wolfwing said:


this is from season 1.


Just me then. I suppose it's been a while since i last watched season 1.


I'm working on it, so reconized it right away. Apparently the rest of this season will be from earlier seasons.
Aug 25, 2017 11:52 AM

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My tag is : "Budget failure after the episode 6, can't let 7/10, enjoy 4/10, just put the anime on hiatus and don't take us for morons please."

But that's not correct, this anime ends at the episode 6 with the new hell girl, next episodes are all gonna be like this with old stories from previous seasons if I get it. Screw this.
Aug 25, 2017 12:56 PM

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So if I understand things correctly, first half of the series were new episodes and the second half will all be rerun episodes from prior seasons of the series? If so, why bother even airing it as a full one-cour series?
Aug 25, 2017 1:03 PM

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I knew this was an old episode I could tell by the drawing style. So apparently it's S1E3 again. What the hell?
Aug 25, 2017 1:12 PM
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this sounds so horrible, i was like "already i watched it?" at all, i dont like this idea for "reminiscence episodes" cuz they are just copy and paste.
Aug 25, 2017 2:12 PM

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now this is disappointing !! the first intro shouts clearly "OUT OF BUDGET!!" and the recap thing is just sad...i mean yes it's great to remember the old days when hell girl was actually a dark show !! but if you're planning on 6 episodes ... say it !! don't give me false hope !! anyway .. it's said that the rest will be re-runs as well...so yeah!
Aug 25, 2017 2:22 PM
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No wonder I thought this episode was familiar :I

Anyone knows will it be just this one or will this continue?
Aug 25, 2017 2:36 PM

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man this episode tho one of my favorites in a unique way glad to see it again (but not too much lol), if am ever in a situation like that and somebody got hurt I would never or agree to make up a story to the parents were its me who caused it even for the smallest incident anymore lol.

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No wonder I thought this episode was familiar :I

Anyone knows will it be just this one or will this continue?

Pretty sure from what I heard last 6 episodes are going to be reruns hopefully at least in the end they do something special :)
basically am guessing all the new content is going to be the bits in the beginning lol
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Aug 25, 2017 6:49 PM

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The final six episodes are reruns, but there has to be a purpose to them, right? If it's just a rehash, then maybe it would have been better to air it in the beginning of this season and then add in the newer episodes right after. That would help catch everyone up and add the hype for what's to come.

If it's just reruns, then that's kind of weird.

This episode was pure nostalgia though. The pacing was done well and everything about it was great.
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Aug 25, 2017 9:47 PM

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I love the episode of the Tarnished Mound, quite honestly. Perhaps in part due to how early it was before I caught wind of the formula. That being said, the audacity to repackage this as the fourth season's 7th episode immediately drops this to a 1.

Complete garbage. It is not just the quality, but the shamelessness of such a move. Fuck....you....Deen, or whoever decided this was a great idea. Fuck this. I am out. Sayonara. Really got to update my list though.
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Aug 25, 2017 11:39 PM

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I've posted this previously (in the 12-eps forums) but if you guys are curious about the list of eps. that will be aired for the Reminiscence Arc, just click the spoiler button.



I am loss with words. I was hoping that the team will put more effort in the Reminiscence eps. instead of giving out a full, uninspired, copy & paste episode. Despite that, I like the skit at the beginning though.
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Aug 26, 2017 12:09 AM
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I've posted this previously (in the 12-eps forums) but if you guys are curious about the list of eps. that will be aired for the Reminiscence Arc, just click the spoiler button.



I am loss with words. I was hoping that the team will put more effort in the Reminiscence eps. instead of giving out a full, uninspired, copy & paste episode. Despite that, I like the skit at the beginning though.


Not a single episode that i like apart from the Futakomori one. I wonder on what basis did they choose which episodes to recap.
Aug 26, 2017 12:58 AM

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AHA! So this is why there's no new Yami Shibai episode this week!
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Aug 26, 2017 1:12 AM

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Not even gonna bother if it's literally an exact recap of the original episode. Seriously, if they only had six episodes of new content, why do a full cour of episodes and waste half of them on episodes that people have already watched?

So yeah, this is me done with this I suppose, and I'll probably knock the rating down by 1 at some point to reflect this.
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dustyrice said:
I've posted this previously (in the 12-eps forums) but if you guys are curious about the list of eps. that will be aired for the Reminiscence Arc, just click the spoiler button.



I am loss with words. I was hoping that the team will put more effort in the Reminiscence eps. instead of giving out a full, uninspired, copy & paste episode. Despite that, I like the skit at the beginning though.

They should have aired these six episodes first before showing the newer ones. It's going to turn off a lot of people by doing it the way they decided to do it. I wonder why they went with this route though.
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Aug 26, 2017 2:28 AM

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It's kinda hilarious the end of the episode did a lead up to the S1 ending song, then just cuts out and it plays the S4 ending...

Why the hell did they do this, anyway? I mean it was a good episode...back in season 1. But really? All it really did was show how much better they did back in the old days.
Aug 26, 2017 3:56 AM

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Another great episode.
I would have liked that bastard to suffer more, but it all ended ok.
Aug 26, 2017 7:03 AM
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That intro part with the wieners was wtf, there's no need for real footage mixed with 2D animation. It reminded me of Yami Shibai
Aug 26, 2017 8:36 AM
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The episode was a comun, a baseball school player and his ego killed a teammate but he will pay his act.....kekeke....., but the intro was cool with the change in the animation style!!! This small change did the difference!!!! ;)
Aug 26, 2017 9:41 AM

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Wut? What an odd thing to do. If you only have 6 episodes worth of content, don't make a 12-episode show. Who could possibly profit from this decision?
Aug 26, 2017 11:10 AM

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I knew from the get-go that we'd be going back, but I thought that they'd at least be REMAKING episodes. I didn't know they'd just copy and paste the old content.

This is just so disappointing and frustrating. On top of the fact that I would've loved to see the actual season 4 story fleshed out across 12 episodes, there's absolutely no purpose for 12 episodes to begin with. Why didn't they just make it 6 episodes?

Does anyone know why this happened? This is just plain disheartening, as if the initial news and the rushing of the initial story (and don't get me wrong, I still enjoyed the first half) wasn't hard enough to deal with.

They didn't even give it a quality recap. The skit at the beginning just put a frown on my face because of that fact. Why, man, why?
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SJ7izm said:


I knew from the get-go that we'd be going back, but I thought that they'd at least be REMAKING episodes. I didn't know they'd just copy and paste the old content.

This is just so disappointing and frustrating. On top of the fact that I would've loved to see the actual season 4 story fleshed out across 12 episodes, there's absolutely no purpose for 12 episodes to begin with. Why didn't they just make it 6 episodes?

Does anyone know why this happened? This is just plain disheartening, as if the initial news and the rushing of the initial story (and don't get me wrong, I still enjoyed the first half) wasn't hard enough to deal with.

They didn't even give it a quality recap. The skit at the beginning just put a frown on my face because of that fact. Why, man, why?


I also thought we'd be getting remade old episodes but apparently nope :(. Still, the animation quality is superior in the old ones XD. Funny how they just cut it...you could hear the old ending song and it just cuts to the new suddenly. I didn't really enjoy the IRL/2d mix at the beginning either.

I have no idea what were they thinking. The only thing that comes to my mind is that they totally gave no fucks, not even about possible profits and just threw something together for pure nostalgia because they could.
Aug 26, 2017 1:25 PM

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Now this was a good Jigoku Shoujo episode! Oh wait... it's a recap from season 1, no wonder why it was so good, lol.

Meh, not sure how I feel about having recaps. Although I do believe previous seasons were better, if I really wanted to watch them so much, I'd go back and rewatch previous seasons instead of wanting another season.

Thanks, person who gave me this on another site a long time ago, lol.
Aug 26, 2017 2:03 PM

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This is terrible...Jigoku Shoujo is over. It ended horribly last week, and now we just have the main characters (without Ai), reminiscing about their past together at a bar. How horrible.
Aug 26, 2017 7:43 PM

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Last month I re watched the first season. Now this one repeat the story. And...

It is me or the quality of animation is worst than the original?



They only did a copy paste of the episode. Do they re animated it? Or only made it HD? Enma Ai is using the Kimono of the first season:



The episode didn't have the preview of next episode. I am really curious about what do this title have to offer. My expectations are now very low.
Aug 27, 2017 10:33 AM

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This was laughable to say the least, i didn't think things would turn out this bad, actually liked the previous 6 eps, but this was a bad way to brings things back, despite that really liked the end because of the nostalgia, what happened to Ai's grandma and her bathing in the river? and finally wanyuudo transforming into a flying carriage, good times.

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Aug 27, 2017 6:01 PM
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Pfft, the second they showed the baseball glove I knew it was going to be a recap of that season 1 episode....but I didn't think they'd just show the whole thing...
I mean if anything the whole thing where Ai gets the message to where she cleanses herself for the ceremony was pretty nostalgic, but other than that what was the point? There wasn't even more commentary afterwards...
Shows don't do recaps or cuts like this unless it's for budget reasons.

I'm happy enough just with the 6 episodes, it ended well too...I wonder if this is why the season is half as long? All the previous seasons had 26 episodes, did this one have 12 because of the budget, or was it just following the recent episode count trend?
Aug 27, 2017 6:10 PM
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According to AniList's description of the fourth season it has "Six new episodes and six "reminiscence" episodes" However based on how they did the first "reminiscence" episode there's no point in bothering with the rest of it. It adds nothing.

EDIT: They could scrap the last six and put out the first six as an OVA instead if a fourth season. Atleast it'll make the dvd and blu-ray release less of a waste of money (specially with Aniplex USA)
Aug 27, 2017 7:29 PM

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Mouloxas said:

Not a single episode that i like apart from the Futakomori one. I wonder on what basis did they choose which episodes to recap.


They probably:
1. Choose the episodes randomly.
2. Used episodes that shows relevant society issues up to date.
3. Airs episodes that had less viewer count (on Japan's TV broadcast).
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4. Based from an unknown reason, where only the director understands (his direction) & thinks that it's relevant for 'Yoi no Togi'. And here I am thinking that the Reminiscence Arc will focus solely on Michiru's past + issues. ㅠ-ㅠ

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They should have aired these six episodes first before showing the newer ones. It's going to turn off a lot of people by doing it the way they decided to do it. I wonder why they went with this route though.


I agree. In that way, first time watchers will be able to get the earlier gist of the Jigoku Shoujo series without tiring themselves to watch the previous 78 episodes.

By the way, did you guys realized that the rating for the series is plummeting? The highest it ever get is 7.87 (during episode 3). The rating now is 7.57 and might get lower in the future. Wow.
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Aug 27, 2017 7:57 PM

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Wow~ The Blu-Ray version of the 1st season looks nice.......
Aug 27, 2017 10:15 PM

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WTF!?

This is just a re-run...

So this season is 50% filler...

Way to ruin something good...

The new arc felt too short. Michiru took over fully basically immediately after she regained her memories and they just dropped the story there...

I am disappointed. They should have made the transition longer, or continued the story longer after with the new Hell Girl. It would even have been better to just end it there at six episodes than to waste half a season on rehashed bullshit!

Talk about wasted potential...

It's like they're not even trying...

...fuck.
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dustyrice said:
Mouloxas said:

Not a single episode that i like apart from the Futakomori one. I wonder on what basis did they choose which episodes to recap.


They probably:
1. Choose the episodes randomly.
2. Used episodes that shows relevant society issues up to date.
3. Airs episodes that had less viewer count (on Japan's TV broadcast).
4. Based from an unknown reason, where only the director understands (his direction) & thinks that it's relevant for 'Yoi no Togi'.


Based on how much effort seems to have gone in the making of this season, i would choose number 1.
Aug 27, 2017 11:18 PM

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Being accused of something you didn't do especially murder is something that really infuriates me!
Good thing Hanagasa was promptly dispatched to JIGOKU HELL!
4/5.


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I actually don't get it.

I mean, I get it, but I don't GET it. Why did this season even air at all? Why was time wasted animating this?
All of the actual new episodes didn't make much sense to me, but it's been years since I finished season 3, so I thought maybe it did make sense, my memory was just fuzzy. But nah. The last episodes that they're dedicating to reruns could have been a more fleshed out story with the new jigoku shoujo, that I don't even remember the name of, because she was there, got a shitty origin story, and then was gone. aHHHHHHHH they should've just left the series alone. :/
Aug 28, 2017 4:08 PM

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You know...I actually might have preferred if they just presented the reminiscence episode entirely in cardboard cutout fashion. That could have at least told us that they were putting some effort into it...

If this is an attempt for Deen to get newer watchers into the Jigoku Shoujo franchise, then it isn't doing it very well. It's basically spoiling the episodes of past seasons to get newer watchers to buy the older seasons. It's like Deen is saying that the past seasons are better than this season, so you should watch those instead. Season 4's purpose was basically to get people to watch the previous three seasons...Why...

What would have worked better as reminiscence episodes would be to revisit the backstories of Ai's servants and apply them to Michiru's requests. One for Wanyuudo, Ren, Hone Onna, Kikuri, Yamawaro, and finally Ai. I would have been fine with this, but instead we get random episodes. I'm actually interested to see how well Yoi no Togi sells...
Aug 28, 2017 5:31 PM
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I just wished I could set this as completed already, I mean, I already watched all those episodes if they are really going to be recaps, I don't really remember any of them, because it has been like 5 years since I watched all three seasons of Jigoku Shoujo. Anyway, for Jigoku Shoujo as a whole, I never understood the inside plot with the Hell crew, but the revenge-of-the-week plots were cool I guess. Even the first 6 episodes witht the new hell girl and all were wtf to me because I couldn't remember anything from the episodes of 5 years ago, but I couldn't be bothered to watch it all again. Maybe I'll read the story in a wiki or something someday. 5/10 for the new episodes, they were ok.
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You know...I actually might have preferred if they just presented the reminiscence episode entirely in cardboard cutout fashion. That could have at least told us that they were putting some effort into it...


^ THIS!!! I agree with this entirely. At least make the retellings more interesting, or add on to them. It'd maybe be neat to see where these people are at now. If they regret their choices. What that person sent to hell is up to. Anything besides just plain rehashing that requires absolutely no effort.
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A rushed and ill-explained end, now 6 copy and paste episodes ? Seriously, i can not imagine a more horrible end to a serie that i've been watching and loving for so long.

My hopes are in the last episode...
Aug 30, 2017 7:35 AM
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I don't really get why they're re-airing old episodes but I also don't get why so many people are so annoyed about it. If anyone bothered to read the description of this new season it said there will be six new episodes and six reminisce episodes. I always took that to mean that the last six would be revisiting past episodes with no new content. I mean yeah it's kinda dumb but it was pretty clear from the beginning that we weren't getting a usual season of Hell Girl.
Aug 31, 2017 1:05 PM

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I am so disappointed with this season. Not only was it rushed, lack of quality, and the character development of Michiru was very weak--they're now going to use the old episodes from previous seasons? Why? I was already disappointed with last week episode; they didn't explain why Michiru wanted to become Hell Girl. She just out of nowhere took the job like nothing ever happened. What happened to her profound thoughts against being one? So that's it?

They shouldn't have made this season happened.

4/10.
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dropped I won't waste my time with recap episodes
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I don't really get why they're re-airing old episodes but I also don't get why so many people are so annoyed about it. If anyone bothered to read the description of this new season it said there will be six new episodes and six reminisce episodes. I always took that to mean that the last six would be revisiting past episodes with no new content. I mean yeah it's kinda dumb but it was pretty clear from the beginning that we weren't getting a usual season of Hell Girl.


That set aside, they did a piss-poor job with the 6 new episodes.
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