Knight's & Magic Episode 4 Discussion

beast_regards said:
I know it's kinda late to point that out, but anyone feels that Erni looks too feminine? P

thebrentinator24 said:
It's just Japan's unhealthy obsession with boys that look like girls, nothing new there.

thebrentinator24 said:
It looks like things are starting to heat up a bit with that shady group from the end of the previous episode making their move, so the next episode should be an interesting one.

zcv45 said:
I don't like how they made the Marquis seem like a villain then turn out not to be. But regardless, it seems Ernie have lots of charisma. He reminded the marquis of himself when he was young it seems.

thebrentinator24 said:

It's just Japan's unhealthy obsession with boys that look like girls, nothing new there.

It looks like things are starting to heat up a bit with that shady group from the end of the previous episode making their move, so the next episode should be an interesting one.

OPObsessed said:


What makes it unhealthy?

Stark700 said:
THIS IS AN ANIME ONLY DISCUSSION POST. DO NOT DISCUSS THE MANGA BEYOND THIS EPISODE.
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Those mechnical worm things looks freaky...

So this episode turned from calm to an unexpected battle out of nowhere.
I guess some characters like Eru are more excited than scared to face them. That's exactly what I'd expect from someone like him.

Tokoya said:
Pretty interesting how that old dude was an innovator just like Erni is lol

Seeing the new mech in action was pretty awesome though and I love how even now Erni still has so many more adjustments that he's trying to make to it xD

But finally that underground group are making their move, so I'm looking forward to seeing what they're gonna do

zcv45 said:
I don't like how they made the Marquis seem like a villain then turn out not to be. But regardless, it seems Ernie have lots of charisma. He reminded the marquis of himself when he was young it seems.

but seriously? 300 years of development? they are freaking slow. Longest weapons development I recall is probably around 50 years, but those are the extreme cases. usually development IRL for jets, tanks and guns take no longer than 10 years and 20 years at most. 40 years to 50 are very extreme cases where a series of programs are cancelled and readopted and stuff.
50 years are usually peacetime development and replacement of major warships in the modern day.

300 years is unbelievable amount of time to develop anything. All I have to say is that the people there are just incompetent.

FMmatron said:
Ernies unit could prove it's ability on the battlefield, it was funny when he didn't even care about appreciation for his work.

Episode was decent, I guess the next one will be better, tho.

ReDCaT_NhS said:
Can someone explain the meaning of the words "even weights" and "eleven" in the conversation between the king and the marquis?

nightcrawlercyp said:
Well can you give a little bit more from the conversation? I do not remember that line exactly. But I know the king and his adviser where afraid that Ernesti would become extremely powerful and take over or at least rebel. Never mind that his ideas could be stolen and used against their kingdom.

ReDCaT_NhS said:

Thank you for your replies, these are some lines from the conversasion:

The King: Did you see that, Knut? The Crystal Tissue could only support *even weights* before, but now it can hold *eleven*! I can see the light!

Knut Dixgard: Your lordship, you intend to continue?

I have some troubles understanding these lines.

nightcrawlercyp said:

Maybe, but a robot is not a warship. It took a lot of time to get a robot be able to walk if you remember correctly. Also it depends how many people work on it. Also ideas usually are just like a spark. You can sit for days and years and have none and wake up one day and suddenly have the answer. you must understand that Ernesti had the advantage of coming from a world where similar technology was employed in toys he was researching as a hobby. And he had the programming skills also. The only new thing to him was the engine of the whole thing which was most likely just the core of a behemoth.

zcv45 said:


TOPIO took just 5 years to get to its 3rd prototype. I'm not saying it is easy, making a walking robot but if they already had the first design enter service, the rest will be a lot easier.
The world's first jet aircraft took a long development, but the preceding aircraft were much quicker. That's because the fundamentals are already down.
If the first variant of the mech has been developed, the fundamental systems are in place and the next are much easier. You aren't designing a mech with no knowledge.

A ship is filled with complex electronics and mechanisms and are very big. It also require very complex knowledge of thermal and hydrodynamics and stability to get a modern warship working. And i mention peacetime, meaning it isn't even priority project and usually very budgeted so 50 years is on the long end of the spectrum.

Both the mech and a warship is a national project. Would make no sense for this world to have less qualified manpower. A warship is much more time and manpower intensive than a mech prototype so makes no sense. Creativity is definitely not something you just come up with, but you have to realize they have 300 years of combat experience. If you can't find a flaw(and solutions to it) after 300 years of combat, then you are worse than unimaginative.
The only thing that makes a mech more complex is the movement and balance which they should of mastered when they have functioning combat machines for 300 years.
The whole low tech problem is semi-solved with the help of magic in their world, so they don't need CAD and microscopic sensors like IRL for development.
Which is the main complexity over a warship.
IDK what to say, technology advance very quickly in 50 years, so major warships that been delayed for a long time usually risk being out-dated. This might not be an issue since only they have mechs.

In 300 years, we went from muzzle loading smoothbore to super-sonic and hypersonic missiles. I'm pretty sure a missile of such nature is beyond imagination from the 1700s colonial era. Yet in their world the mechs look almost the same as it first started.

I just don't buy it. Nature also have so much inspiration, so I do think they are incompetent, unimaginative and maybe secluded.

zcv45 said:


TOPIO took just 5 years to get to its 3rd prototype. I'm not saying it is easy, making a walking robot but if they already had the first design enter service, the rest will be a lot easier.
The world's first jet aircraft took a long development, but the preceding aircraft were much quicker. That's because the fundamentals are already down.
If the first variant of the mech has been developed, the fundamental systems are in place and the next are much easier. You aren't designing a mech with no knowledge.

A ship is filled with complex electronics and mechanisms and are very big. It also require very complex knowledge of thermal and hydrodynamics and stability to get a modern warship working. And i mention peacetime, meaning it isn't even priority project and usually very budgeted so 50 years is on the long end of the spectrum.

Both the mech and a warship is a national project. Would make no sense for this world to have less qualified manpower. A warship is much more time and manpower intensive than a mech prototype so makes no sense. Creativity is definitely not something you just come up with, but you have to realize they have 300 years of combat experience. If you can't find a flaw(and solutions to it) after 300 years of combat, then you are worse than unimaginative.
The only thing that makes a mech more complex is the movement and balance which they should of mastered when they have functioning combat machines for 300 years.
The whole low tech problem is semi-solved with the help of magic in their world, so they don't need CAD and microscopic sensors like IRL for development.
Which is the main complexity over a warship.
IDK what to say, technology advance very quickly in 50 years, so major warships that been delayed for a long time usually risk being out-dated. This might not be an issue since only they have mechs.

In 300 years, we went from muzzle loading smoothbore to super-sonic and hypersonic missiles. I'm pretty sure a missile of such nature is beyond imagination from the 1700s colonial era. Yet in their world the mechs look almost the same as it first started.

I just don't buy it. Nature also have so much inspiration, so I do think they are incompetent, unimaginative and maybe secluded.

nightcrawlercyp said:

Maybe he said seven weights. As in he supported 7 units of weight measure instead of 11. To me is the only thing that makes sense. Especially since it says later that the new model can lift 150% of what the old one could.