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| THIS IS AN ANIME ONLY DISCUSSION POST. DO NOT DISCUSS THE MANGA BEYOND THIS EPISODE. ---------------------------------------- Useless Characters killed off? Check. More Bad writing? Check. Bringing back another dead character who should had stayed dead? check. Sounds like Gundam 00 S2. 1/5 Edit:Gonna give it 2/5 just because a certain purple haired innovator is going to die next episode. |
TechnicsMKIIFeb 15, 2009 12:35 AM
| I hope I've got this right as I couldn't watch the whole thing (poor connection), btw thanks for people who have corrected me: Setsuna spams GN particles over the battlefield in Trans-Am mode, So this way Saji finally gets to talk to Louise and starts to move her, Hallelujah is back (briefly), Soma fights Andrei, Revive Revival loses to Tieria and gets captured, |
quentinlauFeb 15, 2009 8:03 AM
| One of greater episodes :3 Mizushima, you sly little bastard, don't worry, we all knew that you won't be able to go without doing Tomino yet again. :3 Quite an intense episode. I seriously wonder now on who will actually survive...in "normal" mental state. EDIT: LOL@trolling OP :3 |
AhenshihaelFeb 15, 2009 12:41 AM
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| why do they have to kill my favorite character who was irrelevant to the story? |
| Can anyone tell me (or send me a private message) where you can watch this? I have searched all over and cannot find Ep. 19 :( |
| Wasn't Tiera the one who captured R. Revival ?! Setsuna and Saji were "talking" with Louise at that time... or am I wrong? perito77, the first posters usually watch raws / ( unsubbed ) episodes ... |
| mflatischler.tk - My Manga translations and transcriptions Anime in Blu-ray あなたの人種、年齢、宗教は問いません |
mflatischler said: the first posters usually watch raws / ( unsubbed ) episodes ... Actually that would be the second wave of posters, but whatever. |
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mflatischler said: Wasn't Tiera the one who captured R. Revival ?! Setsuna and Saji were "talking" with Louise at that time... or am I wrong? perito77, the first posters usually watch raws / ( unsubbed ) episodes ... Thanks for the correction; the video was jumping around so I missed out a lot of details orz |
| the beginning was such a let down, i wanted marina to get shot, but no~~~~. anways, nothing to surprising, most of the ep was quite predictable. still waitn for Masurao and 00 to fight, but that won't be till the end :( |
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| Yes thank guys. I know it's unsubbed but I don't mind at all. Well well seems like a lot is going to happen next week :) I do not thing Wang Liu-Mei died. Maybe Hong sacrifice his save to get her in a escape pod or something. That was to easy. Oh oh Louise what is SHE going to do now. Cannot wait till the subbed version is out to really understand what they were talking. Well I hope this does not finished without the following: 1. Louise finds out that Nena T. is personally responsible for her parents dead. 2. Saji finds out that A.A. Saachez is the one responsible for her sisters dead. 3. Mr. Bushido vs. Setsuna showdown. 4. Kati Mannequin and Sumeragi Lee Noriega (and Wang Liu-Mei if not dead) join forces to kick some serious ass 5. Lockon saving Anew from the Innovator mind controler 6. Andrei Smirnov gets killed by Soma Peries (what I started to doubt) It should be interesting... I wonder if this 2nd Season will be also as many episode as the 1st. |
| lots of mix ups. im sort of upset that the split personalities are resurfacing on everyone. marina is just annoying at this point. shes that plucky lil character that wants peace but is not willing to do shit to get it. and can more innovators die. and i really hope liu mei dies. she always annoyed me. |
| Andrei is still a one track minded bastard as usual and Ribbons bitchslaps two hos. Marina is pretty facepalm worthy for her squeaky clean peace attitude. I kind of wished she did die. The next episode looks like there's going to be some Lockon vs Setsuna? |
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Useless Characters killed off? Check. More Bad writing? Check. Bringing back another dead character who should had stayed dead? check. Sounds like Gundam 00 S2. 1/5 Edit:Gonna give it 2/5 just because a certain purple haired innovator is going to die next episode. I'm starting to wonder why do you still watch it, oh well. Otherwise, nice ep. Especially loveed the animation in this one. |
"There is a road in the hearts of all of us, hidden and seldom traveled, which leads to an unknown, secret place." |
| This entire episode summed up: FUCK, LASSE! Anyway, still hate Marina who depressingly lived. Liking Louise again, hating Andrei even more, Anew made me cry little girly tears(partially her, partially FUCK, LASSE). This episode succeeded on all fronts outside of what I've grown to expect out of 00. Mannequin still has yet to reappear, which is probably a good thing. Wonder what'll happen with the Liu Mei thing. |
"I'd suck you~" Berri||Desu Ne? |
| nena shows finaly her true face again! ^^ i wonder who controlls anew ... revive or ribbons? It looks like that she is a puppet when she is in innovator-mode ... or is that her real personality? andrei wants to kill saji now? all in one great ep :D |
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| I thought this was a great episode. Saji's character development has finally come around, now that's he's finally accepted that there are things worth fighting for, and Celestial Being's plan to capture an Innovator has backfired magnificently to set us up for some more action next week. A little extra drama between Ribbons and Regene is nice, and I have to give credit to Rie Kugimiya for voicing Nena at the end of the episode in a wonderfully batshit insane fashion. I love 00 S2. |
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| All I can say is, fuck yeah saji. |
| boooo shitty way for lasse to die booo |
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| Does anyone really think Lasse died btw? Probably just hurt. |
| Ok so as always, the action was good, the else was not. If they kill Lasse and not WLM, that'd be so f*cked up... Marina, Andrei and fatty A-LAWS commander still need to die. Looks like next episode will feature some badly wrote emo scenes between Lockon and Anew. |
AlexstratzFeb 15, 2009 12:30 PM
| damnit, Andrei needs to die already. I guess he can't die because he needs to realize how big of an idiot he was and how he didn't know his father at all. then he should feel at a new low then DIE. I freaking hate Andrei and Marie/Soma should of killed him. It was good to see Halelujah back briefly. I just don't care about Marrina and the kids, they are worthless. the Anew betrayal wasn't surprising. only that they didn't see it coming and that Lyle was probably holding something back that could of prevented Lasse potentially getting shot. Still no sign of Katy, and Graham didn't do much so I guess there is still hope for their characters. good riddance to wang liu mei btw. now if that worthless green haired innovator and that annoying a-laws commander would die... |
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darkxdestiny said: i was talking about hong long. >.<mflatischler said: perito77, the first posters usually watch raws / ( unsubbed ) episodes ... True. By tomorrow RAWs should be up. But I'm surprised at how people can watch it first. Frito said: why do they have to kill my favorite character who was irrelevant to the story? True but I suspect someone will survive, at least. |
| The last few episodes were ticking me off, but this one should redeem those episodes. |
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Maurice said: EmmanuelVR said: Does anyone really think Lasse died btw? Probably just hurt. Maybe he didn't, but Liu Wang Mei and Hong Long did I think. (The escape pods couldn't be used, because the power was totally shutdown and Nena kept shooting) based on the show's track record, I'd be surprised if any of them are dead. at least lasse better not be dammit. it's a shame they didn't do away with marina. shirin said it best, she's useless if she's not going to fight. i hate characters like marina. it was cool to see hallelujah back, even if it was for a little while. but i wonder where they're going with him. it seems pointless to just have him show up once every 5 episodes or so. |
Bakayaro said: lasse will not die. he's an underwear model. revive will die. all this innovator jihad/kamikaze is funny. we need the redhead twins back so that they can keep killing them over and over again. This entire episode summed up: FUCK, LASSE! Anyway, still hate Marina who depressingly lived. Liking Louise again, hating Andrei even more, Anew made me cry little girly tears(partially her, partially FUCK, LASSE). This episode succeeded on all fronts outside of what I've grown to expect out of 00. Mannequin still has yet to reappear, which is probably a good thing. Wonder what'll happen with the Liu Mei thing. finally saji is now a man. and will probably have to deal with andrei before he could get to louise. who im hoping will get a MA that will partially block quantum brainwaves. since you can't really stop it from getting in your head. other than that, bakayaro you didn't say anything smart this week. maybe next week. |
| This episode was actually pretty good. I wonder why you ppl actually gave it a 1. 5/5 |
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Fai said: tomino will kill off every single person if he is in the mood nor he didn't get sex the night before. so yeah....... good riddance if everyone dies. it will be a sad ending. hopefully bittersweet.One of greater episodes :3 Mizushima, you sly little bastard, don't worry, we all knew that you won't be able to go without doing Tomino yet again. :3 Quite an intense episode. I seriously wonder now on who will actually survive...in "normal" mental state. EDIT: LOL@trolling OP :3 |
| Damn, what's up with Hallelujah and this show? Getting 5 seconds every 10 episodes? Since there is only 6-7 episodes till the end, it means he will get 3 seconds next time. Make up your mind producers, do you want him or not? Don't tease me... Saji has finally grown up, I finally don't want him to die anymore. Louise is in love, as expected, but I still like her. Andrei is bastard, I hate him, but somehow I think he will survive and be sorry for all he did when he finds out papa bear didn't betray A-LAWS. I don't want Lasse to die, but if he dies LWM better dies too...otherwise I will be really pissed. Nena is back to her old self...I really like her(I really like psychotic chicks in general) Lockon and Anew (two characters with least background) will play biggest role in future episodes...which is kinda STUUUUPID!, but oh well... Oh well, nice fights, lots of fights, and just like I said on Hallelujah fan club: "S2 is all about fighting and nothing more..."...I guess I just have to bear with it. |
nina4life said: well season 1 is a set up for the bigger picture. they don't have to develop some kind of plot device as they are just moving along with what was planned 40-something episodes before. from the very beginning(season 1) 'til now you will enjoy it more.Damn, what's up with Hallelujah and this show? Getting 5 seconds every 10 episodes? Since there is only 6-7 episodes till the end, it means he will get 3 seconds next time. Make up your mind producers, do you want him or not? Don't tease me... Saji has finally grown up, I finally don't want him to die anymore. Louise is in love, as expected, but I still like her. Andrei is bastard, I hate him, but somehow I think he will survive and be sorry for all he did when he finds out papa bear didn't betray A-LAWS. I don't want Lasse to die, but if he dies LWM better dies too...otherwise I will be really pissed. Nena is back to her old self...I really like her(I really like psychotic chicks in general) Lockon and Anew (two characters with least background) will play biggest role in future episodes...which is kinda STUUUUPID!, but oh well... Oh well, nice fights, lots of fights, and just like I said on Hallelujah fan club: "S2 is all about fighting and nothing more..."...I guess I just have to bear with it. |
Frito said: Bakayaro said: lasse will not die. he's an underwear model. revive will die. all this innovator jihad/kamikaze is funny. we need the redhead twins back so that they can keep killing them over and over again. This entire episode summed up: FUCK, LASSE! Anyway, still hate Marina who depressingly lived. Liking Louise again, hating Andrei even more, Anew made me cry little girly tears(partially her, partially FUCK, LASSE). This episode succeeded on all fronts outside of what I've grown to expect out of 00. Mannequin still has yet to reappear, which is probably a good thing. Wonder what'll happen with the Liu Mei thing. finally saji is now a man. and will probably have to deal with andrei before he could get to louise. who im hoping will get a MA that will partially block quantum brainwaves. since you can't really stop it from getting in your head. other than that, bakayaro you didn't say anything smart this week. maybe next week. :( Maybe next week indeed. Anyway, we can only hope that he's alive. There really isn't much to say this week. Lasse dying will make me bawl like a school girl, now all that's left is to wait. Hong Long/WLM may make it out as well, but that's yet to be seen. They didn't actually kill anyone this episode, gotta love cliffhangers. Odds are they're all alive outside of Klaus. And yeah, I've been cheering Saji on all season, all the other bitches were complaining about him, but his growth as a character is simply fantastic. Especially when taking last season into account. Now what's left to be seen is what happens with him and Louise. As for next week, past resolving these current conflicts and dilemmas we're dropped right off onto the porch of what I assume to be Ribbons using his Ribbons-yness to mindcontrol Anew or something of the sort. I can only hope that's the case anyway. While it'd be kind of cute for her to go back to Lyle, I don't think it'll work out that way so easily. At least not for a few episodes. The final episodes are certainly going to dwell on the relationships of the characters and the people they spoke of last episode. Including yes, Tieria's Computer love, and Setsuna's Gandamu love. Throw in a little Mannequin, Graham, Regene, and a touching reuniting of Billy and Sumeragi, cut tragically short by an awesomely targeted beam rifle shot to cause an explosion just large enough to take out only Billy, despite Sumeragi being only two-to-three feet away. Successful end, IMO. PS: Crouching Gundam, Hidden Setsuna? Hawt imo. Forever said: It was an entertaining episode, but nothing too ground breaking happened. Anyone else had the feeling the animation quality in this episode dropped a bit? A little, not enough to terribly upset me though. |
"I'd suck you~" Berri||Desu Ne? |
| It was an entertaining episode, but nothing too ground breaking happened. Anyone else had the feeling the animation quality in this episode dropped a bit? |
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| Interesting thing that with their invincible Gundams, the only thing that can beat Celestial Being is an inside attack. The episode itself was so-so, there are several points that didn't make much sense, but still it showed some developments (except for wimpji which is becoming increasingly annoying) and promises for the end. And I'm seriously starting to suspect something hearing the Ribbons speech in the beginning of the episode. Setsuna may be the first Newtype, that's why the series is called Gundam 00, thus the roots of all the saga. I may be wrong but there are too many coincidences to just overlook that. |
 In every age, in every place, the deeds of men remain the same. |
Jacut said: no.Interesting thing that with their invincible Gundams, the only thing that can beat Celestial Being is an inside attack. The episode itself was so-so, there are several points that didn't make much sense, but still it showed some developments (except for wimpji which is becoming increasingly annoying) and promises for the end. And I'm seriously starting to suspect something hearing the Ribbons speech in the beginning of the episode. Setsuna may be the first Newtype, that's why the series is called Gundam 00, thus the roots of all the saga. I may be wrong but there are too many coincidences to just overlook that. |
| I shouldn't be enjoying this but I do (more than I ever should). Shit better start happening soon, only got 6 more to go... |
darkxdestiny said: robosapien said: I shouldn't be enjoying this but I do (more than I ever should). Shit better start happening soon, only got 6 more to go... For sure. I wonder how much more story will they tell? Gundam got their own department or whatever in Bandai, now, right? I wonder if they do some ovas or specials to show after story? I wouldn't mind. Anyway more on the show itself. I want to some main characters die; spice it up a bit. It seems like nothing is happening...wait, because, it isn't. At least not very fast. It's still one of the most enjoyable animes out there right now. (Which isn't really saying a lot but still, really nice show, imo) another thought is they should get it over with louise and saji, they're hogging up all the screentime with their bs. if they were supposed to be main charas they should've done it in the first season. saji should quit redeeming his char. and just die (with louise, it would be touching, no?)... I think I've suggested this every episode. Too bad tomino doesn't care about me |
hznuFeb 15, 2009 3:51 PM
| Best episode so far for this season (possibly the series itself). To start this off, I praise Nena for being the best character in this series. She never hesitates in killing and always tend to surprise me. Characters like Marina should be thrown away; their thinking never work. Liu Mei's been annoying for quite a long time, so have fun in hell. Here's my prediction regarding Anew shooting Lasse. It's either Anew regain herself (from thinking about Lockon) during the last moment and steer the gun off, or one of the girls jump in between and take the shot (unlikely). Lasse isn't that meaningless to be thrown away. Now if Anew dies, Lockon will be having his own episode (like Allelujah) to get Anew off his mind and continue on. Now the prediction for Regene. He will betray Ribbons and give some valuable information off, and in the last moment of his life gets destroyed by Ribbons. I also predict that Hallelujah will be helping Allelujah deal with the Marie problem. I found it odd that Soma didn't just want to return to A-Laws. What's even more odd is that she's not attacking Celestial Being, but instead partially fighting for them. I wish the series didn't have Allelujah, but instead have an insane Hallelujah that gets more caring along the way. Now I'm not sure if Veda would make him pilot if he was insane, but maybe Veda could have known he would regain a part of his old sanity. This episode raised quite a lot of questions for foreshadowing. I just hope this series end the happy way, although considering how the last season ended, it's so unlikely. |
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| Setsuna have become closer to an Innovator, if I understood what Ribbons said.... Clearly, Saji is going to play a very important role in the future. I have the impression Setsuna is leading Saji into the evolution as well. Setsuna play the role of a 'mentor' to Saji currently.... Anew is clearly programmed as a sleeper agent... Poor Lasse, hopefully he's not dead (Marina is not dead from last episode after all) The return of Nena Trinity. WTF was that? And her MS seems to be upgraded as well....She is manipulated by Ribbons, of course.... mystik said: I just don't care about Marrina and the kids, they are worthless. the Anew betrayal wasn't surprising. only that they didn't see it coming and that Lyle was probably holding something back that could of prevented Lasse potentially getting shot. Sorry but the children are hope of the future. Even though this is just an anime, please do not consider human lives as worthless....Saji made a point in this episode about vengeance.... |
wakka9caFeb 15, 2009 4:19 PM
bla bla bla The endless debate between fans and haters. At one point, after spending a lot of time on MAL, you just realize it's totally pointless.Niko-kun said: On MAL, everyone who has used the lame rating system becomes a critic and an intellectual by default, haven't you heard? |
| From my point of view, she rather hates greedy people, although she may be one herself. One more thing, her suit looks beast! |
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darkxdestiny said: wakka9ca said: The return of Nena Trinity. WTF was that? And her MS seems to be upgraded as well....She is manipulated by Ribbons, of course.... I disagree. As of now, Nena to me desires revenge on those who helped "the ones who killed my brothers", i.e. anyone connected to Ali Al-Sachez (or rather the Innovators). I don't think she knew she & the other Trinitys know they were created by Ribbons, yet. do you think Ribbon discovering Regene's plan at the same time was a coincidence? I think she's been manipulated by Ribbons (don't overestimate Nena and don't underestimate Ribbons) |
bla bla bla The endless debate between fans and haters. At one point, after spending a lot of time on MAL, you just realize it's totally pointless.Niko-kun said: On MAL, everyone who has used the lame rating system becomes a critic and an intellectual by default, haven't you heard? |
| Man maybe no more WML chinadressness and Andrei needs to die already so that things can be focused on better things lol. |
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| Lol killing character makes my day too xD |
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| jaja nena T. is awsome fck yo andrei poor saji setsuna is evolving? is he a pokemon or or what wonder if louise is gonna join celestial being aWSOME SERIES |
| Being a fan is like having a penis. Its nice to be proud of it But don't pull it out in public and wave it in other's faces Kyurem Black. Kyurem White. Together they are Pretty Kyurem. |
| great episode!! Nena Laugh >>>> Light's Demonic Laugh |
| Nena really is pure evil. That's for sure. |
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