Ao no Exorcist: Yosuga-hen Episode 3 Discussion

lol, does anyone know how old Shrio was in this. When Yuri revealed she was 16, he bolted

Japan doesn't remotely understand Christianity the animated series continues on. They had female higher ups wearing comforters and something on a horse statue at the "alter". I don't even know where to start with all of this. It just gets more and more confused in those aspects each season.

They began with that classic pagan/shinto thinking that demons can be helpful and exorcise demons. I let that go because it's to be expected in anime. The ending of the first season was semi sympathetic to satan and pushed me off any hope of really liking the series back then, as fun as the story was overall.

Now we're at demons are good and created by people's beliefs or whatever. You took the wrong turn, Kazue Kato. I can handle the not understanding and slightly warped aspects, even though they do bother me, being religious. I wouldn't dock a story points for that. You broke the logic in story's world with this reveal of demon origins. That is a no no and degrades the story.

If you cut out God and angels from the world's origins then why are Christian things used in exorcisms or at all? It was essentially revealed that God doesn't exist in this world. The logic broke. They don't need bibles and religious items, text, chants, prayers, etc. if Christianity is only a cover for some demon body creating scheme. Those things would hold zero power in that world and over demons. There's a gaping hole in the logic. You really screwed up Kazue Kato.

It reminds me of that Japanese village that claims Christ didn't die on the cross, but escaped to that village and had a family there. If Christ didn't die on the cross then he doesn't matter.. It's literally the entire point. Sacrafice is the central thing in Christianity and the claim is there was no sacrafice. He just ran away to selfishly be a rice farmer in Japan. They really don't understand Christianity at all.

There you go. This is another unhinged rant from this bored individual who can no longer share ideas on Crunchyroll because no one believes in free speech anymore. Have fun reading or get mad or whatever.

The way they are developing the relationship between Yuri and Shiro, oh God, they’re going to destroy our souls with sadness, I can see it from miles away.

Japan doesn't remotely understand Christianity the animated series continues on. They had female higher ups wearing comforters and something on a horse statue at the "alter". I don't even know where to start with all of this. It just gets more and more confused in those aspects each season.

They began with that classic pagan/shinto thinking that demons can be helpful and exorcise demons. I let that go because it's to be expected in anime. The ending of the first season was semi sympathetic to satan and pushed me off any hope of really liking the series back then, as fun as the story was overall.

Now we're at demons are good and created by people's beliefs or whatever. You took the wrong turn, Kazue Kato. I can handle the not understanding and slightly warped aspects, even though they do bother me, being religious. I wouldn't dock a story points for that. You broke the logic in story's world with this reveal of demon origins. That is a no no and degrades the story.

If you cut out God and angels from the world's origins then why are Christian things used in exorcisms or at all? It was essentially revealed that God doesn't exist in this world. The logic broke. They don't need bibles and religious items, text, chants, prayers, etc. if Christianity is only a cover for some demon body creating scheme. Those things would hold zero power in that world and over demons. There's a gaping hole in the logic. You really screwed up Kazue Kato.

It reminds me of that Japanese village that claims Christ didn't die on the cross, but escaped to that village and had a family there. If Christ didn't die on the cross then he doesn't matter.. It's literally the entire point. Sacrafice is the central thing in Christianity and the claim is there was no sacrafice. He just ran away to selfishly be a rice farmer in Japan. They really don't understand Christianity at all.

There you go. This is another unhinged rant from this bored individual who can no longer share ideas on Crunchyroll because no one believes in free speech anymore. Have fun reading or get mad or whatever.

@portajohn

This is an alternate world, so not everything will be equable with Earth. I can see the comforter thing, most Abrahamic religions try and ensure Priests aren't tempted by curves of females. Sexual energy is part of the fuel used for magic, depleting it will weaken one's abilities until it recharges

Demons are just a label. There are neutral entities, some who are chaotic and others lawful. Good and evil are subjective. Mephisto and others enjoy this world and if there's only blood-spilling and rampages, then it wrecks their little playground. So some will police the other Gehenna entities either by forcing them to behave or removing their vessel used to stay in Assiah

Their take on Gods, Angels and Demons runs in a similar vein. Powers from the adjacent non-physical or spiritual world. Some seen as Creators, others Destroyers. Some wish to Aid, some wish to Rule

They haven't touched on Creator itself, as like here, The All in Hermetics isn't something you can name, point to, or have show up physically. It is Creation Itself. All is the Creator. The religious icons and mantras, sutras are like spells and triggers/foci. Used to draw out, shape and willfully manifest Magic. Source may be within, who knows.

Christ's role was to Teach. To push back on the Old Testament and the obvious control through tyrrany it has established for 2000 years. The Father (Creator) is accessible to All. That's why He spent his time with those who needed it the most. The tax collectors, lepers, ladies of the night.

Free speech is great. Philosophy and working through concepts and having other's perspectives is a path toward growth and understanding. It's even easier when it's a fictional setting. JP does fight against religion a lot in manga/anime. Often demons are good and priests are evil. Although my previous statement holds true. Good/Evil are subjective. My preference is Service to Others polarity, or Service to Self. With ones true intentions, not whatever outward appearance you try and convey. Some of the world's biggest philanthropists use that as a cover for very dark deeds.

Peace ~

@Gemini_Star Do you have any exemple of evil priests in manga ? My only thoughts goes only to manga that either critisize the institution or show these priests in a some good way, like the vengeance of Odin, Innocent shonen jujijgun or Vatican Miracle Examiner

@Kumoiro_Shizuki Berserk comes to mind

Although I recall many instances of depraved, power hungry, abusive characters playing the role of religious leaders


Devil is a part-timer
The Executioner and her way of life
Shield Hero
Fullmetal Alchemist?

@Gemini_Star I see. I think I see the recurrence. After that, I don't think these are the works whose religious side is the most important, knowing the other underlying problems that exist in them, (at least, for the “isekais” you quoted).

On the other hand, Fma? My viewing dates back a few years but I have no recollection of that, to be honest.

@Kumoiro_Shizuki Father Cornello