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Mar 7, 2015 12:22 PM
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THIS IS AN ANIME ONLY DISCUSSION POST. DO NOT DISCUSS THE MANGA BEYOND THIS EPISODE.
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What's happening to Joe?
Mar 31, 2015 10:36 AM
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Oh fuck oh fuck oh fuck.... I can see where this is going...


It was nice seeing Carlos again, but it hurts seeing him like that. Damn, I hope he can recover, not to be a boxer again, but at least to be... normal.

But even worse than the Carlos thing, watching Joe like that cannot lead to anything good. He's clearly with the punch-drunk syndrome.... Dammit...

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Aug 15, 2015 5:01 AM
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It sucks to see Carlos like that man :/ but damn...what a nice reunion between Joe and Carlos :3

Joe is clearly becoming desperate nowadays...smh I hope he can keep his composure for the match against Jose.
Mar 11, 2016 12:11 PM
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It was painful to see Carlos again like that...it actually made me tear-eyed myself when Joe started to cry when Carlos started giving out punches which was just a shadow of his former self.
Mar 29, 2016 8:45 PM
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I am super worried about Joe now. Please be okay!
Apr 13, 2016 7:57 AM
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Such a depressing episode T.T

It was really heartwarming how Joe treated Carlos :)
Apr 27, 2016 6:42 AM
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Man this episode was really a mix for me. On the one hand I witnessed the absolutely worst boxing episode of the anime, filled with gravity defying bullshit. Even for this series which doesn't pride itself on realism, it was an all time low.

Then in comes Carlos. The interactions with Carlos literally elicited more of an emotional response than almost anything, if not everything, I've seen in anime. Then there is also the foreshadowing with Joe. So basically I ended up hating the first half of the episode and absolutely loving the last half.
Apr 28, 2016 6:11 PM
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Carlos' return completely stole the episode. It was really depressing to see him like that but it was a really touching reunion. One of the best moments of the entire show up to date.

Joe's last fight gonna be even tougher now.
Oct 19, 2016 4:05 PM
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It was awful seeing Carlos like that.
Joe seems to feel the damage from his fight against Harimau.
Nov 9, 2016 5:18 PM
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Harimao's totally Blanka from Street Fighter, no ? I wonder if he was inspired by him.
May 6, 2017 5:34 PM
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I dont know how to feel about this
Jul 26, 2017 8:19 AM

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Boy,the feels :/

Seeing Carlos like this was awful.

And well, after this episode I'm prepared for the worst.

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Sep 9, 2017 5:50 AM

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I really like the Joe fights but this one was just bad, I get what the author wanted to do with all the "go back to wild Joe" but the execution was very poor.

Joe is not going to end well and the anime definitely doesn't try to hide it.

How did Carlos even get here from Venezuela in his current condition lol.
Sep 27, 2017 1:27 PM

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That was so sorrowful Carlos was such a great man damn.
Dec 29, 2017 7:25 AM

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WTF? Does Harimao fly?
How sad this about Carlos... :(

Jan 24, 2018 7:45 PM

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Honestly, while the idea of Joe fighting a wild boxer like Harimau in order to regain his old instincts was a good idea, the fight wasn’t that great and at one point I was laughing at how ridiculous it was.

But the second half of this episode was completely different, and damn, it hit me hard. Carlos’ first punch against Joe and the silence that followed as Joe’s eyes were filled with tears, seeing for himself how much Carlos has changed, then Carlos throwing empty punches as Joe slowly hugged him... this was painful to watch. Not to mention Joe showing symptoms of punch-drunk syndrome. Depressing episode.
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Feb 18, 2018 2:39 AM

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Carlos.... this is just sad. as if it wasn't tragic enough for Joe to hear the news of him getting crippled and thus retiring. he get to see what became of him aftermath. harsh.

It's always surprising to me how much Yoko cares for Joe. when she said "Not just Carlos, but all the boxers who are suffering from the same symptoms could" she meant Joe. she already noticed his symptoms before anyone else did.
May 5, 2018 5:46 PM

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Episode was so sad most people forgot how awesome was Joe fighting against Blanka

Yeah it looked unreal, but I dont care.
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May 23, 2018 10:17 AM

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I got teary-eyed at the Carlos scene, and seeing Joe seemingly go-down a similar path is heartbreaking.
Sep 26, 2018 8:36 AM

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That Harimao fight was kinda retarded to be honest, I mean what were those lolshounenmagic moves and techniques? It was a huge let down after the previous, somewhat realistic matches.
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Feb 25, 2019 6:59 AM
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Xin_Eohp said:
Harimao's totally Blanka from Street Fighter, no ? I wonder if he was inspired by him.


This manga is far older than Street Fighter.
Sep 30, 2019 7:00 PM
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The animal has been beaten, and it was uhh, a pretty abnormal fight I'd have to say. Seeing Carlos like that hurt me so much, it was so tragic. While it's unsettling, let's be honest here, pretty sure all of us knew something would happen to Joe, and well, some symptoms are becoming visible now...
Feb 13, 2020 3:40 PM

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retiring_anime said:
Man this episode was really a mix for me. On the one hand I witnessed the absolutely worst boxing episode of the anime, filled with gravity defying bullshit. Even for this series which doesn't pride itself on realism, it was an all time low.

Then in comes Carlos. The interactions with Carlos literally elicited more of an emotional response than almost anything, if not everything, I've seen in anime. Then there is also the foreshadowing with Joe. So basically I ended up hating the first half of the episode and absolutely loving the last half.


My thoughts exactly.
Sep 29, 2020 11:34 AM

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I swear, I don't think half the moves used in this match were legal.
Oct 4, 2020 7:45 PM

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God damn man, this was the saddest episode in this anime man...
I couldn't stop crying, It was so sad to see Carlos like that.
Joe, Joe Forever....
Apr 2, 2021 12:12 PM

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Carlos' appearance was depressing, but extremely touching.

Joe seems to have received many shocks in this fight

Otherwise the fight was really bullshit, I just liked Joe's final blow, but the rest was a joke
May 12, 2021 4:07 PM

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the feels man I barely cry from anime anymore
Oct 18, 2021 10:54 AM

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It felt really good to see Carlos Rivera back again man.
Nov 6, 2021 1:14 AM
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Fuuck I have such a bad feeling about joes condition
Mar 25, 2022 10:11 PM
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Carlos doesn't deserved that <_>

Joe can finally fight Jose
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Mar 31, 2022 8:38 AM

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Oh no... don't tell me the series is going to end with Joe no longer able to box
May 31, 2022 12:23 AM

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Holy shit, that was so sad. Seeing Carlos like this hurts me.
Almost teared up towards the end.


And damn, Joe is definitely not alright.
Sep 22, 2022 3:07 PM
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Man that was heartbreaking seeing Carlos like that :(
Feb 7, 2023 1:47 PM
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JOE IS ALWAYS PEAK
Apr 27, 2023 3:28 PM

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Faaaaaak, it broke me seeing Carlos like that ...

That supposed "slip and fall" Joe had doesn't bode well either, it's what happened to Carlos.
And then Yoko talking about the punch drunk syndrome again ... I have a very bad feeling about the fight vs Jose :(
Sep 11, 2023 1:29 AM
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It was a really other worldly fight but Carlos re-appearance was what that was important to me.
Oct 7, 2023 9:50 PM

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damn man. i can already see it. Joe is getting brain damage or some shit, just like Carlos. and fuck man it sucks to see carlos like that. i feel like everything is going wrong
Oct 25, 2023 5:49 PM

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Oh no, this show is going in a very bad direction! The implications of this episode, if they are followed through, are going to lead to a dark and tragic ending. It's an ending that could justify the fame and hype of this season, but also be very emotionally difficult. I'm scared of the direction this is heading.
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Feb 8, 3:10 AM

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Seeing Carlos like this is just too painful.
Jul 27, 7:24 PM

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How the hell did Harimau stay in the air for that long??? It honestly is distracting me from Carlos Rivera's return, despite the sorry state he's in.
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Aug 17, 11:02 AM
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This episode was a shitshow saved by Carlos.
Was Harimau a pokemon ? What did makers think before animating that physics defying move where that pokemon suddenly begins to spin at one place ?
Oct 19, 2:22 AM

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One of the saddest stuff I've ever watched. Carlos, a once strong and dandy boxer, and then being reduced to someone no one can even recognize at first sight. I like how Joe was the only one who called his full name, Carlos Rivera, and still remembered him as his once-friendly foe. Carlos's situation reminded me of both Muhammad Ali and Prichard Colon from that handshaking of Ali and lack of situational awareness of Colon. And I see that Joe's developing similar symptoms and having a hard time accepting that this could be his fate. I hope Carlos gets the treatment he deserves. Cheers to that 🥂 > 5:21 AM, 19/10/24
Oct 25, 3:06 AM

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This episode was one hell fo a ride. I wasnt expecting to cry this episode but in the end i did.

We finally see Carlos again after so very long and what a sad state he is in. Im glad he is back and its nice to see he remembers Joe along with being a strong boxer but its just so painful to see him the way he is compared to the way he was. This punch drunk syndrome is one hell of an issue and seeing as its starting to appear on Joe as he cant even button up a shirt just like Carlos.

I wonder if that doctor we met earlier on in the show will be able to do anything for them.

Im glad Carlos is back and is kinda ok, i hope to see him recover atleast even a little bit.


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Carlos was my favorite,damn i cried seeing him in that state

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