Macross Episode 16 Discussion

Why is Minmay such a dolt? Yeah, she's 16 and 16 year-olds can be pretty self-centered but she's completely brainless. That aspect of a teenager might be realistic but it makes for bad boring storytelling. Not that Hikaru is a fantastic deep character either but at least he has motivations and stuff. Minmay is just stupid.

Speaking of stupid, why is Kamujin not in jail yet? His whole deal was that he's a loose cannon trying to redeem himself after being taken off of missions/thrown in jail or whatever but he's just constantly ignoring orders and screwing everything up. His near successes get blocked by his own team and his screwups don't seem to be much of a bother to them either for some reason. This whole show runs on everything happening because the plot needs it to rather than any actual result of character actions.

@LotteGiants You fail to appreciate the nuanced portrayal of Minmay. Yes, she's 16 and embodies the self-centeredness of youth, but dismissing her as brainless shows a lack of understanding of character development. Minmay's journey reflects the realistic struggles of adolescence, adding depth to the narrative that clearly eludes you.

As for Kamujin, your critique is equally shallow. His reckless behavior and the leniency he receives are deliberate narrative choices, illustrating the chaotic dynamics within his faction. The show isn't simply running on plot convenience; it's a sophisticated commentary on the complexities of leadership and rebellion. Maybe if you paid closer attention, you'd grasp these subtleties instead of writing them off as bad storytelling.

@BimJomp Hahahahahaha! I did not expect to find a neckbeard weirdo defense force for this show of all things. Its fine if you think the show is actually good but have some shame before you accuse someone of being too dumb to understand a mid-tier also-ran 80s Gundam rip-off. If your interpretation of Minmay is that her total lack of understanding of anyone around her, total incuriosity about anything (her goal is to be a housewife), and lack of personality is actually a deep complicated portrayal of the impertinence of youth then that's fine. But it is honestly embarrassing that you'd come out swinging at me over it.

I'm aware the Kamujin's story is a deliberate narrative choice. I'm saying that narrative is sloppy and dumb. I'm assuming you've seen the whole series before and maybe his storyline pays off but using only what has been presented he comes off as an antagonist that exists to add some conflict because she show needs pew pew laser robot fights and the main antagonist has committed to not blowing up the Macross.

I'm sure Macross is saying something other than "buy our transforming robot toys and VHS tapes!" but I'm astounded that I've stumbled across probably the one person in the universe that considers it on par with Tolstoy and that it deserves deep literary analysis and would actually tax someone's media literacy skills. Like I said, its a crummy Gundam copy and it isn't even half as good. If Gundam is Pokemon, Macross is Digimon, and there's a reason that Macross is vastly sub-Digimon in popularity.

@LotteGiants You resort to mocking instead of engaging in a meaningful discussion. Calling me a "neckbeard weirdo" doesn’t strengthen your argument; it merely highlights your inability to comprehend the depths of Macross.

Your superficial take on Minmay is laughable. Her character is a nuanced portrayal of youth and naivety, reflecting a realistic struggle between personal dreams and the expectations placed upon her. The complexity of her character development goes beyond your shallow interpretation of her just wanting to be a housewife. It’s clear you missed the layers of emotional growth and societal commentary interwoven into her narrative.

Kamujin’s storyline isn’t sloppy and dumb; it’s a deliberate exploration of the chaotic dynamics within the enemy ranks. His actions provide a counterpoint to the more structured conflicts and showcase the unpredictability of war. Dismissing it as mere filler for "pew pew laser robot fights" only demonstrates your lack of appreciation for nuanced storytelling.

Comparing Macross to Gundam and reducing it to a "crummy Gundam copy" is an oversimplification that ignores the unique themes and innovations Macross brought to the mecha genre. The emotional depth, intricate character arcs, and the blending of music and warfare in Macross offer a richness that Gundam doesn’t fully explore. Your analogy of Pokemon and Digimon is a weak attempt to trivialize Macross’s cultural impact and narrative sophistication.

If you truly believe Macross is only about selling toys and VHS tapes, you’re missing out on its artistic and literary merits. The series deserves a deep literary analysis and does challenge one’s media literacy skills. It's not just about the surface-level spectacle but about the intricate interplay of human emotions, societal critique, and the power of music.

So, before you dismiss Macross as a mid-tier, 80s Gundam rip-off, I suggest you take a closer look at the layers of storytelling and thematic depth it offers. Your inability to see beyond the surface is what’s truly embarrassing. 😊

@BimJomp No, man. You started off all but directly saying I'm just too stupid to understand Macross. Don't act like I came out of nowhere swinging at you. You found me and started this interaction. Maybe you don't have a neckbeard but you are definitely a weirdo defense force for a bad show.

And honestly, what are you even doing here? If you're making an honest attempt to convince me Macross is actually good you are a) wasting your time, and b) doing a god awful job of it because you just keep saying "you're not able to understand its depths" so please stop if that's what you're doing and never do it again this way in the future.

If you're trying to show off how well you know the series and dunk on me or something then you should also not waste your time. I'm the first person to comment on this crappy show in like a year and nobody who gives a shit will see your hilarious posturing. Go to r/Macross for that or find literally anything else to do with your time.

If you're just trying to start a fight or something then seriously get a life. I'm not even gonna read that massive wall of text jerking yourself off and repeatedly telling me how poorly I understand this trash show. I get it, you really love Macross and you think you are very smart. I think your level of intelligence is very very very easy to infer from your posts and I definitely don't have anything to gain by reading any more of them.

@LotteGiants
It's amusing, really. It's like you're trying to look at me through a one-way mirror, but all you're seeing is your own low intelligence reflected back at you. Meanwhile, I'm on the other side, looking through the transparent glass, observing your confusion with a smirk, knowing you can't grasp what lies beyond your own reflection. Your inability to comprehend my posts says more about you than it does about me.

@BimJomp Stop tagging me. I'm not reading your posts but the notifications are annoying.