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Jan 10, 3:40 PM
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This anime isn't perfect, but its WAY better then half of the (MANY) 2/10 slop we're getting this season (Fruit Anime, Headhunted in Another world, Living with a NEET etc)..... Why is this anime rated so damn low?? There seems to be an unreasonable amount of hate pointed towards this anime and I can't figure out why.
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Jan 10, 3:47 PM
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Because GoHands anime are the visual equivalent of choking.
Jan 10, 3:50 PM
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It's completely generic AND poorly executed. Characters are shallow and one dimensional. They are just one exaggerated character trait each. For example that exaggerated juggle physics is used solely to compensate for complete lack of substance.
Also, visuals are absolutely horrendous. So bad, actually, that I'm inclined to believe they are doing it in purpose, because it would require w conscious effort to fumble it that bad. Backgrounds are especially fully, which are just stock assets.
And so on...

Jan 10, 3:52 PM
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Subjective enjoyment of GoHands animation style, and I honestly think some people go into their shows with the intention of rating them poorly before they ever actually try to take in the content. With all the people in the reviews talking about how it’s typical GoHands and that they always hate GoHands, it makes me wonder why they’d be watching in the first place if they already knew they didn’t like it, unless they specifically wanted to rate it poorly.
Jan 10, 3:54 PM
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Piromysl said:
It's completely generic AND poorly executed. Characters are shallow and one dimensional. They are just one exaggerated character trait each. For example that exaggerated juggle physics is used solely to compensate for complete lack of substance.
Also, visuals are absolutely horrendous. So bad, actually, that I'm inclined to believe they are doing it in purpose, because it would require w conscious effort to fumble it that bad. Backgrounds are especially fully, which are just stock assets.
And so on...

I personally only watch it FOR the visuals. I don't understand the hate for GoHands' style. I think it's wonderful. But I agree with everything else you said. 😭
Jan 10, 4:09 PM
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Most of the hate is the style and exaggerated physics. Personally I don't mind them either way, if anything it's something fresh that isn't the same exact style as half of other mid tier shows that air every season. And I don't mean character designs I mean specifically art style. And aside from some shadows, and who is actually that focused on them in the moment, the backgrounds are good. They just latch on to whatever tiktok opinion they saw of a paused frame from a 1.5 second shot 17 minutes into the episode.

Personally I think if people call the characters one dimensional after the first and then second episode, before even having a chance to learn why they're like that or more about the world, they were looking for things to complain about. It's a major problem with the "3 episode rule" when an anime doesn't confirm to a normal story telling plan and why I don't drop anything because you never know.

It doesn't help it's an original so people can't spoil themselves to find out if it will actually be good by the end.
Jan 10, 4:16 PM
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JuwairiyaU said:
Piromysl said:
It's completely generic AND poorly executed. Characters are shallow and one dimensional. They are just one exaggerated character trait each. For example that exaggerated juggle physics is used solely to compensate for complete lack of substance.
Also, visuals are absolutely horrendous. So bad, actually, that I'm inclined to believe they are doing it in purpose, because it would require w conscious effort to fumble it that bad. Backgrounds are especially fully, which are just stock assets.
And so on...

I personally only watch it FOR the visuals. I don't understand the hate for GoHands' style. I think it's wonderful. But I agree with everything else you said. 😭

No, actually. I'm actually baffled that people look at this and have any other opinion than it looking like horseshit. It looks so bad in fact, that I am inclined to believe that they are putting additional effort to just look it bad.
I mean, they can't even do something as fundamental as putting a simple steam overlay properly.


This is seriously Ex-Arm level of horrendous.

And don't even get me started on infinite noodle hair strands, each moving independently and in needlessly exaggerated fashion, which makes each character look like Medusa with their hair.

I mean, when Hand Shakers, Berserk (2016) and Ex-Arm came out, everyone was rightfully laughing at it because of how horrendously it looked. Why is anyone defending this one?
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Jan 10, 4:19 PM
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It’s a dynamic and exciting show with moe girls. The GoHands hate is annoying, it’s just different not unpleasant. At this point we have no idea even what the overall theme is, wether there will be time travel or re-spawning or whatever for dead characters, anything much about the enemy, but already the haters are gathering like vultures. I think it’s an 8 or 9 so far, with potential to go wildly in either direction. Fingers crossed!
Jan 10, 4:28 PM
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Because it's yet another template show.
Jan 10, 7:25 PM
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Well, my personal opinion, the only thing that saves this show for me are the visuals. Cause the jiggle Big Sister is annoying, the story is rushed, the characters are mono trait(hope they at least use it for something interesting). At least it has action so some parts are fun to watch and the end part of ep 2 got me surprised. Will at least give ep 3 a chance for them to show me that they know what they are doing and aren't just mashing everything for nothing.
Jan 10, 9:11 PM
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Most CGDCT/all-female action/sports/ecchi gets a low score by a default. There's nothing new about this.

It has nothing to do with the studio. Trust me. I have sen this for so many times before. People generally just don't like these type of shows.

Never trust MAL scores or ratings.

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People don't like GoHands unmatched vision and ambition
Jan 10, 11:48 PM

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First, no one should be rating the entire anime, before all the episodes are out, that is completely unfair, especially after just 1 episode, so actually, there should not already be a 5 average rating of the entire anime right now.

This has been an issue that I have pointed out before. People can rate the entire anime before it even finishes. And people take advantage of this flaw in the system to purposely give an anime a low score before all the episodes even air: it is only on the second episode this week.

( Who knows if they actually watched the anime, or just automatically rated it low, without even checking it out. )

Second, at this point, they should be rating each episode, not the entire anime, that’s what it is for, to rate the newest episode and leave a comment expressing their opinions through constructive criticism or praise.

Third, I saw the first episode. I didn’t find anything particularly bad about the plot, story, characters, dialogue, the art / animation, music / sound, it’s definitely not as bad as people are making it sound.
Note: I don’t lazily watch 3-5 episodes, biasedly compare to other anime, or unfairly judge by surface level similarities. With every anime I start, I watch the entire series, both Japanese Sub & English Dub, then judge each anime based on what they present, to give an honest and fair rating.

Jan 10, 11:54 PM

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JuwairiyaU said:
Piromysl said:
It's completely generic AND poorly executed. Characters are shallow and one dimensional. They are just one exaggerated character trait each. For example that exaggerated juggle physics is used solely to compensate for complete lack of substance.
Also, visuals are absolutely horrendous. So bad, actually, that I'm inclined to believe they are doing it in purpose, because it would require w conscious effort to fumble it that bad. Backgrounds are especially fully, which are just stock assets.
And so on...

I personally only watch it FOR the visuals. I don't understand the hate for GoHands' style. I think it's wonderful. But I agree with everything else you said. 😭

No, actually. I'm actually baffled that people look at this and have any other opinion than it looking like horseshit. It looks so bad in fact, that I am inclined to believe that they are putting additional effort to just look it bad.
I mean, they can't even do something as fundamental as putting a simple steam overlay properly.


This is seriously Ex-Arm level of horrendous.

And don't even get me started on infinite noodle hair strands, each moving independently and in needlessly exaggerated fashion, which makes each character look like Medusa with their hair.

I mean, when Hand Shakers, Berserk (2016) and Ex-Arm came out, everyone was rightfully laughing at it because of how horrendously it looked. Why is anyone defending this one?
@Piromysl Not intending to be rude, but it just sounds like you (and others) don’t prefer this particular the art style for anime. So I’d ask what art style do you think is good for anime and can you explain why you prefer that one?
Note: I don’t lazily watch 3-5 episodes, biasedly compare to other anime, or unfairly judge by surface level similarities. With every anime I start, I watch the entire series, both Japanese Sub & English Dub, then judge each anime based on what they present, to give an honest and fair rating.

Jan 10, 11:57 PM

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GoHands is just too different from the standard, the average anime fan won't vibe at all with the visuals and insanely erratic tone of the show.
Jan 11, 1:48 AM
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Piromysl said:
JuwairiyaU said:

I personally only watch it FOR the visuals. I don't understand the hate for GoHands' style. I think it's wonderful. But I agree with everything else you said. 😭

No, actually. I'm actually baffled that people look at this and have any other opinion than it looking like horseshit. It looks so bad in fact, that I am inclined to believe that they are putting additional effort to just look it bad.
I mean, they can't even do something as fundamental as putting a simple steam overlay properly.


This is seriously Ex-Arm level of horrendous.

And don't even get me started on infinite noodle hair strands, each moving independently and in needlessly exaggerated fashion, which makes each character look like Medusa with their hair.

I mean, when Hand Shakers, Berserk (2016) and Ex-Arm came out, everyone was rightfully laughing at it because of how horrendously it looked. Why is anyone defending this one?

I don't see it as defending whatsoever. Personally, I see absolutely nothing to "defend." I don't tend to stare at every single panel and see if stuff like the steam is overlaying properly, honestly. The overall image is beautiful! I love the rainbow effect! I love how it feels like a virtual reality video. The quality is clearer than glass! The hair that you dislike so much looks very pretty and flowy to me. It's a matter of taste and appreciation of their unique art style vs. the contrary.
Jan 11, 1:49 AM
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FutoiOtaku said:
It’s a dynamic and exciting show with moe girls. The GoHands hate is annoying, it’s just different not unpleasant. At this point we have no idea even what the overall theme is, wether there will be time travel or re-spawning or whatever for dead characters, anything much about the enemy, but already the haters are gathering like vultures. I think it’s an 8 or 9 so far, with potential to go wildly in either direction. Fingers crossed!

Thank you for agreeing that the GoHands hate is overdone and old news! I don't understand why people hate to see unique art styles and wish to kill creativity today.
Jan 11, 1:50 AM

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When the score is below 6.00, 99% of the times it's because of the animation. Animation quality is the biggest difference between highly and lowly rated anime, not the writing.
Jan 11, 1:51 AM
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Well, my personal opinion, the only thing that saves this show for me are the visuals. Cause the jiggle Big Sister is annoying, the story is rushed, the characters are mono trait(hope they at least use it for something interesting). At least it has action so some parts are fun to watch and the end part of ep 2 got me surprised. Will at least give ep 3 a chance for them to show me that they know what they are doing and aren't just mashing everything for nothing.

Honestly. The 2nd episode felt like it was sped up. I wish they'd slow down just a little, at least. 😭
Jan 11, 2:05 AM

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ejleon said:
@Piromysl Not intending to be rude, but it just sounds like you (and others) don’t prefer this particular the art style for anime. So I’d ask what art style do you think is good for anime and can you explain why you prefer that one?

I don't consider making fundamental rookie mistakes and being lazy as an artstyle.

Jan 11, 2:07 AM

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JuwairiyaU said:
Piromysl said:

No, actually. I'm actually baffled that people look at this and have any other opinion than it looking like horseshit. It looks so bad in fact, that I am inclined to believe that they are putting additional effort to just look it bad.
I mean, they can't even do something as fundamental as putting a simple steam overlay properly.


This is seriously Ex-Arm level of horrendous.

And don't even get me started on infinite noodle hair strands, each moving independently and in needlessly exaggerated fashion, which makes each character look like Medusa with their hair.

I mean, when Hand Shakers, Berserk (2016) and Ex-Arm came out, everyone was rightfully laughing at it because of how horrendously it looked. Why is anyone defending this one?

I don't see it as defending whatsoever. Personally, I see absolutely nothing to "defend." I don't tend to stare at every single panel and see if stuff like the steam is overlaying properly, honestly. The overall image is beautiful! I love the rainbow effect! I love how it feels like a virtual reality video. The quality is clearer than glass! The hair that you dislike so much looks very pretty and flowy to me. It's a matter of taste and appreciation of their unique art style vs. the contrary.

You don't need to "stare" because this shit is literally on the forefront as if they wanted you to see it. Just like people did not had to search or nitpick when Ex-Arm came out.
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For me this is easily a 7/10 for first 2 eps. I understand why people who understand animation might have valid issues with it but for me the style is actually quite thrilling and exciting to watch. Anyway the rating could easily shoot up as things progress.
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Piromysl said:
ejleon said:
@Piromysl Not intending to be rude, but it just sounds like you (and others) don’t prefer this particular the art style for anime. So I’d ask what art style do you think is good for anime and can you explain why you prefer that one?

I don't consider making fundamental rookie mistakes and being lazy as an artstyle.

Excuse me, but I honestly don’t understand what you mean. I’m asking because you to explain because I’m unaware of what is the problem with this art style compared to others.
Note: I don’t lazily watch 3-5 episodes, biasedly compare to other anime, or unfairly judge by surface level similarities. With every anime I start, I watch the entire series, both Japanese Sub & English Dub, then judge each anime based on what they present, to give an honest and fair rating.

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Piromysl said:
ejleon said:
@Piromysl Not intending to be rude, but it just sounds like you (and others) don’t prefer this particular the art style for anime. So I’d ask what art style do you think is good for anime and can you explain why you prefer that one?

I don't consider making fundamental rookie mistakes and being lazy as an artstyle.

Excuse me, but I honestly don’t understand what you mean. I’m asking because you to explain because I’m unaware of what is the problem with this art style compared to others.
@ejleon Their entire "style" is:

Using pre-existing stock images:


Literally changing the daytime between two shots:



Infinite hair strands, each individually animated for God knows why:



Their incapability of even casting simple shadows makes the usage of preexisting stock assets quite obvious.


Believe it or not, but those two cuts are one after the other, but the moon and even the building changes for some reason:


Those are supposed to be cloud's shadows. I guess nobody at GoHands ever saw clouds casting shadows on the group.


Clouds moving constantly at hurricane level speed:


And so on and so forth...
Their "style" is just throwing preverbial shit at the wall and seeing if it would stick.
It honestly baffles me, that anyone is defending this, while Ex-Arm looked just as bad, if not worse, yet people rightfully mocked it. Episode 2 even had the infamous steam overlay just to cover up lifeless stock background just like Ex-Arm had, for fcuks sake!
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MAL pseuds have poor taste, what's new? Some people here write about it like it killed their mom, and that ecchi is the coming if the antichrist, making me think that the majority users here are 70+ year-old women. The show is fun, not ground breaking, but it's a blast!
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JuwairiyaU said:
Piromysl said:
It's completely generic AND poorly executed. Characters are shallow and one dimensional. They are just one exaggerated character trait each. For example that exaggerated juggle physics is used solely to compensate for complete lack of substance.
Also, visuals are absolutely horrendous. So bad, actually, that I'm inclined to believe they are doing it in purpose, because it would require w conscious effort to fumble it that bad. Backgrounds are especially fully, which are just stock assets.
And so on...

I personally only watch it FOR the visuals. I don't understand the hate for GoHands' style. I think it's wonderful. But I agree with everything else you said. 😭

No, actually. I'm actually baffled that people look at this and have any other opinion than it looking like horseshit. It looks so bad in fact, that I am inclined to believe that they are putting additional effort to just look it bad.
I mean, they can't even do something as fundamental as putting a simple steam overlay properly.


This is seriously Ex-Arm level of horrendous.

And don't even get me started on infinite noodle hair strands, each moving independently and in needlessly exaggerated fashion, which makes each character look like Medusa with their hair.

I mean, when Hand Shakers, Berserk (2016) and Ex-Arm came out, everyone was rightfully laughing at it because of how horrendously it looked. Why is anyone defending this one?
@Piromysl I don't think you actually remember how Ex-Arm or Berserk 2016 looked like, this show looks like an Ufotable production in comparison to whatever horseshit you are comparing it to, mind you, I don't think this show looks good, this show's backgrounds looks so extremely out of place that it hurts because the characters look like they are on a green screen.
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This is the same site that has Solo Leveling S2 at 8.81, a power fantasy so horrible that it makes the usual japanese isekai power fantasy look tame and well done in comparison. It isn't from a good or well received studio nor it has a big name attached to it either and it doesn't have anything "impressive" going on for it, characters speak weirdly and with stupid catchphrases like "guilty", being better than stuff like the Fruit anime is true, but that isn't a bar to clear at all.
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People hate the style. I personally love it tbh but it's clearly not for everyone.

The thing I dislike about the show is the characters, as someone else said they're very one dimensional and it really doesn't help that every line of dialogue that each girl has follows their one trope.
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Piromysl said:
@ejleon Their entire "style" is:

Using pre-existing stock images:


Literally changing the daytime between two shots:



Infinite hair strands, each individually animated for God knows why:



Their incapability of even casting simple shadows makes the usage of preexisting stock assets quite obvious.


Believe it or not, but those two cuts are one after the other, but the moon and even the building changes for some reason:


Those are supposed to be cloud's shadows. I guess nobody at GoHands ever saw clouds casting shadows on the group.


Clouds moving constantly at hurricane level speed:


And so on and so forth...
Their "style" is just throwing preverbial shit at the wall and seeing if it would stick.
It honestly baffles me, that anyone is defending this, while Ex-Arm looked just as bad, if not worse, yet people rightfully mocked it. Episode 2 even had the infamous steam overlay just to cover up lifeless stock background just like Ex-Arm had, for fcuks sake!

Thank you very much for taking time to explain, that helped expand my perspective a lot.

Excellent points made and I agree with your criticism of the art / animation.

You obviously pay a lot of attention to details and I appreciate this.
Note: I don’t lazily watch 3-5 episodes, biasedly compare to other anime, or unfairly judge by surface level similarities. With every anime I start, I watch the entire series, both Japanese Sub & English Dub, then judge each anime based on what they present, to give an honest and fair rating.

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Piromysl said:
@ejleon Their entire "style" is:

Using pre-existing stock images:


Literally changing the daytime between two shots:



Infinite hair strands, each individually animated for God knows why:



Their incapability of even casting simple shadows makes the usage of preexisting stock assets quite obvious.


Believe it or not, but those two cuts are one after the other, but the moon and even the building changes for some reason:


Those are supposed to be cloud's shadows. I guess nobody at GoHands ever saw clouds casting shadows on the group.


Clouds moving constantly at hurricane level speed:


And so on and so forth...
Their "style" is just throwing preverbial shit at the wall and seeing if it would stick.
It honestly baffles me, that anyone is defending this, while Ex-Arm looked just as bad, if not worse, yet people rightfully mocked it. Episode 2 even had the infamous steam overlay just to cover up lifeless stock background just like Ex-Arm had, for fcuks sake!

Thank you very much for taking time to explain, that helped expand my perspective a lot.

Excellent points made and I agree with your criticism of the art / animation.

You obviously pay a lot of attention to details and I appreciate this.
@ejleon You don't even need to pay a lot attention, because they quite literally shove it into face.

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Piromysl said:
JuwairiyaU said:

I don't see it as defending whatsoever. Personally, I see absolutely nothing to "defend." I don't tend to stare at every single panel and see if stuff like the steam is overlaying properly, honestly. The overall image is beautiful! I love the rainbow effect! I love how it feels like a virtual reality video. The quality is clearer than glass! The hair that you dislike so much looks very pretty and flowy to me. It's a matter of taste and appreciation of their unique art style vs. the contrary.

You don't need to "stare" because this shit is literally on the forefront as if they wanted you to see it. Just like people did not had to search or nitpick when Ex-Arm came out.

I don't usually focus on minor details, so I don't think it's on the forefront as such. The overall animation is very beautiful in my humble opinion, and it is the one thing keeping me watching this show. Your taste differs, that's all. :)
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Piromysl said:
@ejleon You don't even need to pay a lot attention, because they quite literally shove it into face.

Respectfully, everything you pointed out are all very specific details that most people would never pay attention to, as we are more focused on the whole, full image. It also doesn't defy the fact that they use an art style you don't fancy, so I don't see the reason for you to use quotation marks there.
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@ejleon You don't even need to pay a lot attention, because they quite literally shove it into face.

Respectfully, everything you pointed out are all very specific details that most people would never pay attention to, as we are more focused on the whole, full image. It also doesn't defy the fact that they use an art style you don't fancy, so I don't see the reason for you to use quotation marks there.
@JuwairiyaU Bruh, as I pointed out those are not "very specific or minor details", because when daytime literally changes between two cuts for no reason and lighting is completely different, it is glaring and heavily stands out and all recent GoHands anime follow the same template. That steaming mug literally shoved on the foreground is just one example so obvious, that does not need further elaboration and explanation why what you are seeing is not just an "artstyle" but result of utter incompetence and laziness.
I am totally willing to excuse a honest mistake or an oversight, but not THIS.
And don't even start me at those hair. Those look so damn uncanny and move so unnaturally, that every character looks like a gorgon.

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@JuwairiyaU Bruh, as I pointed out those are not "very specific or minor details", because when daytime literally changes between two cuts for no reason and lighting is completely different, it is glaring and heavily stands out and all recent GoHands anime follow the same template. That steaming mug literally shoved on the foreground is just one example so obvious, that does not need further elaboration and explanation why what you are seeing is not just an "artstyle" but result of utter incompetence and laziness.
I am totally willing to excuse a honest mistake or an oversight, but not THIS.
And don't even start me at those hair. Those look so damn uncanny and move so unnaturally, that every character looks like a gorgon.

The hair that seems to be discomforting you a lot IS very much an element of an art style, no less. Denying this is unnecessary and the furthest from factual. It's absolutely not laziness, and I think it's horribly disrespectful to make that claim and statement when many animators obviously worked very hard to produce the show in great quality. The use of stock images is not unique to this studio, as MANY studios do this. As long as the product is good and involves human hands only, I don't care how they got there. + If they weren't minor details and were actually "in our faces" as you claim, then everyone would be noticing them and discussing them, but as you can see, people don't. Most of the criticism I've seen on GoHands before is surrounding the whole effect they give their shows, the "camera" angles, and views, etc..
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I just have to say that the show gives me headache by watching. The bright colors, lots of hair movement, weird movements and angles, inconsistent art direction are just too much for my eyes. I can't give a score to this.
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because this is trash , and trash deserved that !!
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Most CGDCT/all-female action/sports/ecchi gets a low score by a default. There's nothing new about this.

It has nothing to do with the studio. Trust me. I have sen this for so many times before. People generally just don't like these type of shows.

Never trust MAL scores or ratings.



While you're right these kind of shows are unpopular in MAL (MAL stands for Males Are Loved after all), the studio also matters. And GoHands is a studio that is cool to hate.

KyoAni has done shows of the genres you said, but they score well because KyoAni could make 22 minutes of a dog pooping and get top marks. So it's both the studio and the genre. And yes, the ratings are useless.
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While you're right these kind of shows are unpopular in MAL (MAL stands for Males Are Loved after all), the studio also matters. And GoHands is a studio that is cool to hate.

KyoAni has done shows of the genres you said, but they score well because KyoAni could make 22 minutes of a dog pooping and get top marks. So it's both the studio and the genre. And yes, the ratings are useless.
@ZettaiRyouiki Yeah, as I said "most", not every single one of them of course. There are still K-On!, Dragon Maid, Uma Musume, etc. Obviously there are some exceptions.

And I know about the reputation of GoHands, but I'm sure if this anime had been made by a different studio, it still wouldn't get a very high score simply because of story and characters. It just usually goes like that.
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Good thing I know it's gonna be better that what mal give it credit for. Already had the experience see ya in three months when it's finished airing.
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Piromysl said:
@JuwairiyaU Bruh, as I pointed out those are not "very specific or minor details", because when daytime literally changes between two cuts for no reason and lighting is completely different, it is glaring and heavily stands out and all recent GoHands anime follow the same template. That steaming mug literally shoved on the foreground is just one example so obvious, that does not need further elaboration and explanation why what you are seeing is not just an "artstyle" but result of utter incompetence and laziness.
I am totally willing to excuse a honest mistake or an oversight, but not THIS.
And don't even start me at those hair. Those look so damn uncanny and move so unnaturally, that every character looks like a gorgon.

The hair that seems to be discomforting you a lot IS very much an element of an art style, no less. Denying this is unnecessary and the furthest from factual. It's absolutely not laziness, and I think it's horribly disrespectful to make that claim and statement when many animators obviously worked very hard to produce the show in great quality. The use of stock images is not unique to this studio, as MANY studios do this. As long as the product is good and involves human hands only, I don't care how they got there. + If they weren't minor details and were actually "in our faces" as you claim, then everyone would be noticing them and discussing them, but as you can see, people don't. Most of the criticism I've seen on GoHands before is surrounding the whole effect they give their shows, the "camera" angles, and views, etc..
@JuwairiyaU Dude, for the last time, making something look like shit and sheer incompetence is not an "artstyle". Throwing proverbial shit at the wall and seeing if it would stick is not an "artstyle".
It's very ironic, that you say that they "worked hard", while it is blatant that they were cutting corners, made amateur mistakes and overall were lazy, so saying that they put their hearts and souls into their shit is badshit insane.
GoHands is the only studio, that uses stock assets to such an extent and can't even implement them properly, so the fact that they are stock assets stocks out, so heavily. They are so infamous with this, that they even had to cancel one of his anime due to plagiarism. Can't make this shit up.

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If they weren't minor details and were actually "in our faces" as you claim, then everyone would be noticing them and discussing them, but as you can see, people don't.

I actually was checking both MAL and Reddit and most people actually do see this bullshit.

So, yeah. The only actual effort they put was to make hair look like noodle, which is just ridiculous.

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Piromysl said:
It's completely generic AND poorly executed. Characters are shallow and one dimensional. They are just one exaggerated character trait each. For example that exaggerated juggle physics is used solely to compensate for complete lack of substance.
Also, visuals are absolutely horrendous. So bad, actually, that I'm inclined to believe they are doing it in purpose, because it would require w conscious effort to fumble it that bad. Backgrounds are especially fully, which are just stock assets.
And so on...

I personally only watch it FOR the visuals. I don't understand the hate for GoHands' style. I think it's wonderful. But I agree with everything else you said. 😭

No, actually. I'm actually baffled that people look at this and have any other opinion than it looking like horseshit. It looks so bad in fact, that I am inclined to believe that they are putting additional effort to just look it bad.
I mean, they can't even do something as fundamental as putting a simple steam overlay properly.


This is seriously Ex-Arm level of horrendous.

And don't even get me started on infinite noodle hair strands, each moving independently and in needlessly exaggerated fashion, which makes each character look like Medusa with their hair.

I mean, when Hand Shakers, Berserk (2016) and Ex-Arm came out, everyone was rightfully laughing at it because of how horrendously it looked. Why is anyone defending this one?
@Piromysl nah bro the animation is peak but of course everything else is MID like monogatari
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GoHands is just too different from the standard, the average anime fan won't vibe at all with the visuals and insanely erratic tone of the show.
@GakutoDeathGlare nah we need PEAK FICTION attack on Titan𓃡 to return
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I got bad vibes. I'm not writing it off entirely (I'll see how episode 3 is), but I don't feel like this show will deliver anything special, like Madoka Magica

I'll wait to hear if it's actually worth watching, but I'm just not getting any enjoyment out of it. I want to - I really do love the premise and the animation - but the characters are unbearable. Not just in the way they act, but... I can't really explain it, the second episode; just got bad vibes from it lol - I knew Eri wasn't going to die (despite how hard they tried to death flag her), even without my knowledge of Yuri's death beforehand, but they did such a "great" job at getting her to be alone...

The plan was clear - for Eri to hold off one so that the rest can deal with two.

And I highly doubt such a bad plan will ever be replicated again: not just because of the risk of her getting overwhelmed, but the show made it very clear that these Wild Hunts are not small fry, even the basic ones.

They require a team effort to manage, and one mistake can be fatal. Anybody, in this situation, would realistically have her paired with another; or they would retreat; or they would change tactics to isolate and take one down. It's already hard taking down one normally - Eri thought she could fend off one, not for a decision that required a hard choice or an unavoidably high risk, but because the story needed her to be alone for... this: This scene where she's slobbering and snotting and begging for her mama whilst dragging her fatass tits across the grass. It was honestly unpleasant to watch, and not because it was a tense or harrowing scene; it felt fetishistic. It felt like... not "sadness porn," or even "drama porn." I just felt like, in this moment, I saw the writers' strings attached to the characters, puppetting them to do what they wanted to do instead of presenting the carefully-crafted illusion of organic-feeling drama.

Like, this wasn't the only plan they could've done. But the show wanted to make us believe that, and that on top of everything else just gave me bad vibes.

Especially telling that this was the first moment Eri had any real character. Except, I didn't feel like it deepened or served her character in any way - not in the sense that it gave context to her actions. Mama demeanor aside, it felt... half "oh she's gonna die, here's something to make you empathize with her in the last second" and half "look at how infantile this 'mature stacked mama teen' actually is, isn't she complex?" I just don't trust the show to take these emotions seriously; I haven't bought into it yet.

She went through all these emotions, too, and she clearly wasn't talking rationally, but when she became enraged that the others "never come," why wasn't this problem in the past emphasized sooner? Why would anybody even agree to her version of the plan without a second of discussion? Why did this feel so forced?

It's because it was.

And it feels juvenile. This whole show feels juvenile in the worst of ways.

My brain is already fabricating a potential counterargument to this scene with Eri; like, "But isn't that telling? It shows how forced her 'mama' demeanor is and how hard she tries to maintain it for the younger girls. The break in character emphasizes the gulf between her persona and her own self."

And to that I say, I understood what they were going for. I just think everything around it was evidence of the writers being degenerate weirdos instead of trying to craft a complex character
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even a moeshitter like myself can't dig into the first two eps but just ignore the score if you enjoy it.
I meant the writing was so lame.

you have those girls that are living on the edge of the apocalypse and trying to survive in a doomed city, since nothing makes any sense in the first case, you see a peaceful life scene in every usual SoL series, those girls confess and confide in each other creating a bond of friendship but a dramatic climax immediately show up and punch you in the face, from the time they come up with the strategy to the cringe-ass moment of the booba girl, and those redundant jiggle boobs scenes make it even more ridiculous.

seems like they tried to bring every element from SoL, sobby story, action, fanservice, drama to some sort of tragic and mix together but none of them are gonna work well rather create a total mess instead.
other things than that, the visual, art, everything is good, let's see if ep3 has any improvement.
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It's completely generic AND poorly executed. Characters are shallow and one dimensional. They are just one exaggerated character trait each. For example that exaggerated juggle physics is used solely to compensate for complete lack of substance.
Also, visuals are absolutely horrendous. So bad, actually, that I'm inclined to believe they are doing it in purpose, because it would require w conscious effort to fumble it that bad. Backgrounds are especially fully, which are just stock assets.
And so on...
@Piromysl I absolutely agree with everything you said
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It's completely generic AND poorly executed. Characters are shallow and one dimensional. They are just one exaggerated character trait each. For example that exaggerated juggle physics is used solely to compensate for complete lack of substance.
Also, visuals are absolutely horrendous. So bad, actually, that I'm inclined to believe they are doing it in purpose, because it would require w conscious effort to fumble it that bad. Backgrounds are especially fully, which are just stock assets.
And so on...
@Piromysl I absolutely agree with everything you said
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JuwairiyaU said:
Piromysl said:
It's completely generic AND poorly executed. Characters are shallow and one dimensional. They are just one exaggerated character trait each. For example that exaggerated juggle physics is used solely to compensate for complete lack of substance.
Also, visuals are absolutely horrendous. So bad, actually, that I'm inclined to believe they are doing it in purpose, because it would require w conscious effort to fumble it that bad. Backgrounds are especially fully, which are just stock assets.
And so on...

I personally only watch it FOR the visuals. I don't understand the hate for GoHands' style. I think it's wonderful. But I agree with everything else you said. 😭

No, actually. I'm actually baffled that people look at this and have any other opinion than it looking like horseshit. It looks so bad in fact, that I am inclined to believe that they are putting additional effort to just look it bad.
I mean, they can't even do something as fundamental as putting a simple steam overlay properly.


This is seriously Ex-Arm level of horrendous.

And don't even get me started on infinite noodle hair strands, each moving independently and in needlessly exaggerated fashion, which makes each character look like Medusa with their hair.

I mean, when Hand Shakers, Berserk (2016) and Ex-Arm came out, everyone was rightfully laughing at it because of how horrendously it looked. Why is anyone defending this one?
@Piromysl because it is not that bad!
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I don't know why, but I was surprised that this anime has a lower rating than Babanbabanban Vampire.

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I was surprised it's so low too, but it feels about right. I'm sure it's because of the art, but I also find the show pretty cringey. I'll stick with it though.
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Because they're f><%&#^÷74^ that wouldn't know something amazing if they choked on it. GoHands should be Godhands.
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