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Jul 14, 6:03 PM
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I feel so bad for that scriptwriter and their role in general. If any part of what he claimed is realistic then their job is really demoralizing specially if they get treated like this. Hopefully he has his revenge in the future with a better work but for now we'll focus on the date and how much Kanna reacts in jealousy.
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Jul 14, 11:23 PM
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I'm too excited for next episodes, honestly.
Jul 16, 3:24 AM
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Oct 2020
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There was no movement in the plot, felt like a filler.
Jul 16, 9:53 AM
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Nov 2021
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too many characters, downgrade
Jul 16, 4:02 PM
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Apr 2023
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Poor playwriter, but I do understand the authors side. Still feel bad for the playwriter getting all the blame. Was fun seeing that side of the story but it still kinda feels like a set up for the arc. I’ve heard it’s the best arc of the whole show but for me it still has to get good. It’s enjoyable of course but not amazing, and by comparison the first season had back to back really good episodes, with the latter episodes being not as incredible. Granted we’re only 2 of the 13 episodes in but still.
Jul 16, 5:41 PM

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Jun 2015
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Interesting choice they made here to switch the introductions of the cast to the second episode. They also showed Abiko's outrage first before doing a flashback to their meeting the previous night. I guess the manga author, Akasaka-sensei, approved these changes lol. The irony.

I like the translation the scanslator did for this line better: "You have no talent as a writer!"
That sounds much better than what the official sub did by literally translating the loanword "sense" as sense in english. Oldpier the goat.

Jul 16, 7:12 PM
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Jul 2023
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Felt like filler, but the animation was elite.
Jul 16, 11:25 PM
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Jan 2023
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lets watch more bc idk
Jul 17, 4:57 AM
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Feb 2015
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So much detail about theater that it convinced me this is theater arc (which is a good thing), I feel so bad for the scriptwriter, he do his best but the middle person mistranslated the communication, the mangaka should communicate with scriptwriter from the start smh.
Jul 17, 5:04 AM
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Is the whole bit about the author/screenwriter adaptation issues plot relevant? It felt like until Akane (God she looks stunning here) invited Aqua out nothing much happened.
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Jul 17, 9:55 AM
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Dec 2021
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GREAT COMPOSITION AND EXPRESSIONS
Jul 17, 11:23 AM
🥊 CHAMPION 🥊

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Apr 2016
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the screenwriter discarded like a used handkerchief!
blood industry!!!
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Jul 17, 3:48 PM
EOussama

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Dec 2016
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I was not expecting I was gonna hate that brat.
Jul 18, 3:46 AM

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When did this episode even end?I thought we're halfway through when Akane invited Aqua to the theatre date. This pacing feels can feel weird when watching an anime but it really does inspire me to go back to reading some manga too.
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Jul 18, 4:23 AM

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The sudden change of mangaka Abiko Samejima to call forth the redo of the entire Tokyo Blade 2.5D stage play has everyone in shambles. But going back to the prelim stage where everyone is working together on the same project, bringing back Sweet Today's Melt, Kana, Aqua and Akane, alongside the multi-talented Taiki Himekawa. Of course, how can one talk about Aqua without talking about Akane, and that has Kana all jealous about their romantic development both on and off camera.

Aside from Abiko being a weirdo of an author, Lala Lai failing to read and assimilate the original source material, scriptwriter GOA is on the spotlight for that fault alone, which is quite typical of the media industry, AniManga included. And that causes a lot of rifts between authors, editors and producers, though it's her vision on the books, and it's people like GOA and producer Sumiaki who has to suffer the grunt when the media does not align with what was intended to be created, even if it has to deviate away from the original to fit within the confines of that medium. GOA is really pressured against a childish author who demanded his exclusion since he could not bring her vision to life, and I really feel for him.

With the rewrite of the script, Akane and Aqua have a bit of time on their hands, so why not a date to understand more about theater?

This Game of Telephone is quite the toxicity.
Jul 19, 9:26 AM
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pretty good ep not gonna lie, been hearing that season 2 is not that good compared to season 1 but I like the second season, it dives deeper into smaller part of the industry and show us the struggle of people who are behind the screen making a theatre play, I felt pretty bad for the script writer he was working his ass off but still got dumped by the manga writer this shows how unfair and curl the industry is.....
Jul 19, 10:19 AM

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boring i dont like
@Violetadamhs same here. I reaaaally don't see why so many people are hyped. I mean,the animation is gorgeous but the plot ..
Jul 19, 12:09 PM
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It was better than the first one imo
Jul 19, 12:10 PM

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Sooo boring... my gosh!
Jul 20, 7:32 AM

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Episode flew by in a flash, guess I just enjoy those explanations about the production steps behind all of this. I can understand the author, I wouldn't want my characters acting weird either.
Jul 21, 12:08 PM
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Akane ftw. If anything else, greatly well executed, but that's not as good as the launching season.
Jul 21, 5:26 PM
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Oct 2019
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Very good episode, I want to see more of Arima, but I like Akane, I'm confused
Jul 22, 4:13 PM
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abiko is a real handful and you gotta feel for the screenwriter as he deffo put his work and sweat for this project however to be bullied like that is crazy. he is a better man than me cos i wouldve swung
Jul 26, 2:23 PM

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I pictured Abiko's hair as raven black, without any shades of purple.

Jul 27, 7:01 PM

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And that is why I try to not go beyond da anime, cause even in animes they are either slightly changed or skip lots of content, just to make the 24 min deadline.

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Aug 3, 7:52 AM
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achei bem chato, sem emoção, lento e sem graça
Aug 7, 5:20 PM

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Jul 2023
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Now this season is really different. We have a bit of nonlinear storytelling.

That chibi-sensei is great.
Aug 14, 12:05 AM

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Feb 2019
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All those Kana faces~
Aug 20, 8:39 PM
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Mar 2024
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me sentí muy identificado con el guionista de la obra.
Aug 24, 10:49 AM

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I can understand and relate with Abiko sensei to the extent of being an author. But her weird quirks are funny.

She wants to rewrite the entire script because she is disappointed, despite repeatedly asking for the changes to be made. She places all the blame on the playwright, but little does she know that he’s little to fault too. The middlemen were the ones who made it messy.

They’ve agreed to let her rewrite the entire script, and the rehearsals had to be put on hold.

Aqua literally has no interest in stage plays that he doesn’t even know the common terms within the industry. This is so funny 🤣.
Aug 27, 2:53 AM

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looks like a lot of ppl hates Abiko but I love her for trying to protect her project, her childs, her behavior is far away from an adult/mature one, but I like it the way it is, straight to the point, with collateral damage, even hurting ppl unnecessary.
oc GOA is the victim of this story, he really did his best! He tried to respect sensei's POV and will.
You can find the culprit by looking for ppl who treats "clients" and dont give a damn about the story itself, only $$$$, prevent losses and business stuff, it is what it is.

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Aug 28, 10:49 AM

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The struggles of a scriptwriter. It was tough to watch seeing Goa being down like that. It isn't his fault that the communication between the author and him is such a mess. Poor guy. Even the author is being a bit too childish. There are only so many things you can do when you're on a tight schedule and budget. Even tho I understand the author's frustration, it's still not nice to make the scriptwriter look like he doesn't know how to do his job.
Sep 6, 1:15 PM
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My rating is solely based on the fact that it wasn't as crazy as the first season intro was. Animation and style is still really great. Second season feels slower.
Sep 7, 2:09 PM

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I'm finding these first couple episodes to be on the dull side, hopefully will pick up as season goes on.
Sep 8, 6:50 AM
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akane kurokawa is so cute, how could anyone say no to those eyes?
Sep 10, 7:25 AM
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Sep 2021
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Really how adaptations are done from the source material, the changes, the frustration etc., a lot of things related to it were shown. Was nice to know all about this.
Sep 12, 7:34 AM

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All of this can be resolved if Abiko just consulted the scriptwriter rather than go on a whole telephone game with her editor. But this is the Japanese we're talking about, they sure love their overly complicated diplomacy steps
Sep 22, 12:29 AM
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Well, I didn't expect the author to be like that when she was first introduced but she's not the shy quiet girl anymore lol, and now they have to redo the whole thing, at least they seem motivated
Oct 4, 11:50 AM
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Akane Shines :) !!!!!!!!!
Oct 5, 12:12 PM

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Feels bad for the scriptwriter, but what can you do.. You've tried your best and it wasn't enough.

Hopefully he'll be able to bounce back from this.

Oct 7, 12:21 PM
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Jul 2019
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just because you are genius author doesn't mean you can do anything you want. you need to consider what a script-writter had been went through
Oct 8, 10:47 PM

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Great episode, as we see how important communication and understanding of interpretive nuances are when it comes to art!
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Oct 11, 2:37 AM

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Abiko is a great take on the anti-social artist archetype. Talented, but tolerated only for that. That rotten personality without the raw ability would be met with isolation otherwise, and she doesn't even appreciate that fact.
Oct 21, 3:31 AM

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Abiko is really passionate about her story! Even all adaptations must live up to its full potential, No weakening the plot for a shorter run time allowed! I respect it, but I can also see how this would be an issue in a play adaptation.
Yesterday, 12:28 AM

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Like how it manages to feel like so much is put into a standard length episode. The timeline of everything may seem a bit weird, but it does feel better in the setup of things. Have the characters we know, bring in Akibo and have her throw a spanner at production, rewind and introduce her and the other new characters.

I doubt companies bend over for the author like this in reality due to the mentioned costs, and this has been done for the drama and to highlight the many roles. Considering all the revisions, they should've done a direct meeting much sooner. Too many people cutting out/down the requests meant GAO was working with likely less than half of what was being asked. After all that dedication, Akibo (who seemed to have no idea of the game of Chinese whispers that were going on each time) just comes in and completely tears him down. While feeling your work is tarnished and requests being ignored is obviously frustrating...you've got to know who/what is actually to blame before going after the wrong person. I expect GAO is going to have quite the creative slump after this and even question whether he wants to stay in the industry. All because of someone lacking social skills made a poor choice of words (this'll affect her future work too as no-one will want to adapt her work in future like this).

Wonder what Aqua's going to learn from his date with Akane?
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