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May 17, 2023 3:17 AM

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I saw this coming a mile away. Our protagonist is a typical sucker who will never learn even after this betrayal. How many times must he get screwed over before he learns? Rachel only cares about herself and hes too blind to see it. Its rather pathetic and it sucks that this anime ends on this note. I will still watch season 2 but have to lower my expectations.
Jul 6, 2023 5:22 PM
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cant wait for the second season. god i hate rebecca
Aug 1, 2023 10:36 AM
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Could've been a better adaptation
Oct 15, 2023 3:08 AM

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I saw this coming a mile away. Our protagonist is a typical sucker who will never learn even after this betrayal. How many times must he get screwed over before he learns? Rachel only cares about herself and hes too blind to see it. Its rather pathetic and it sucks that this anime ends on this note. I will still watch season 2 but have to lower my expectations.
@Mr_Fudgee What are you talking about? Which part of this episode did you think that Baam never learn? He just wanted to know the reason Rachel did all that, he wanted the answer to that. He's not your typical shield hero protagonist who seeks revenge because somebody did him wrong. Is he naive? Perhaps, doesn't mean he has to change that trait of his that have gotten so many people to be friends with him, just because of some bad apples.

As much as I hate Rachel, this episode is a 10/10, the best paced episode in the entire series, which is not saying much, but everything is made clear with coherence. Also as trash as Paracule is, I respect how trashy he is.

We also got a sneak peek of Jyu Viole Grace at the end. Excited for season 2, but for now I'll go and catch up with the webtoon. As bad as this adaptation is, I have such a soft spot for it, thankful that it even got turned into an anime, even though it got a lot of people hating on it because it didn't meet the "hype" from TOG fans. This series has an ensemble of characters that is my favorite since One Piece's Strawhats crew.
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Oct 15, 2023 3:19 AM

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Here we go, my opinion as a manhwa reader. A bit late to the party but whatever.

To begin with, I have to say that unlike the majority of readers, I consider the original to be a masterpiece from beginning to end (if you consider the workshop battle the end, anyway). You won’t get “it starts okayish but gets better later on” from me.

Now, I understand that it’s not easy to adapt such an amount of work in 13 chapters, I get it. From what I have read, SIU’s involvement with this was minimal, too, which does not help. Stil, it does not excuse this show for being the unwatchable mess that it is.

What is the problem with this adaptation, then? The problem is that it fails miserably at everything it does. There is no passion, no love, no ambition to tell a good story. There was never a desire to understand the source material as the team behind this just didn’t care. Don’t let them fool you, this is not Tower Of God.

Specifying:

1. Scene changes. They changed almost every scene as they see fit, without any valid reason, leaving people confused (again, we cannot use the time constraints card here). You can leave mysteries unexplained so that people can keep looking forward to the next chapter/episode, like the original does but you can’t leave them unable to understand anything at all, like they did here. They took the “oomph” out of every scene, too: no “Please die, Baam”, no “Because I am afraid of the night (Baam)”. Jesus Christ.

2. Character changes. They did it. They actually did it. They managed to make me hate all the characters that I used to love. Everyone is so out of character it makes me cringe. They tried to push the Nakama thing too faar, too. Friendships were formed during the time they spent in the floor of test but some people, like Anaak, didn’t actually care all that much about Baam, or “climbing together”. Also, Khun, my man, what did they do to you? They transmuted him into a damn yandere who is thirsty for Baam and made him do stupid things like antagonizing Rachel from the beginning or warning Baam against her. Khun is way smarter than this, actually. He knows better than to ass meddle into a situation he clearly knows nothing about and was actually never hostile to Rachel when they first met. Later on, when he has a motive to be hostile to her, he is still smarter than taunting her with childish comments that would make Rachel (who’s actually not stupid) realize that he’s onto her. Ha-ha. 2/10.

I am going to have to join the people recommending the original (rough art style at the beginning, though). Also, for those saying how crazy the fans are for “overhyping” this, keep in mind that what we were hyping was in fact the original work, not the anime adaptation. That criticism would only be valid if the adaptation was even remotely faithful to the original, which is not. Even “most helpful” reviewers fail to realize this. Eww.

Have a nice day.
@Returnbywaifu Perfect breakdown of what the anime did wrong. Even though it's been years since I read the webtoon, I still remember when Rachel said that she's afraid of the night (Baam). The anime skipped out on a lot of great moments (not action based), and they rushed through a lot of great moments that made them lack the impact that the original webtoon had. I consider part 1 of Tower of God in the webtoon a masterpiece too, easily 10/10.

What's done is done, I just hope that they do season 2 justice and don't rush through the content.
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Oct 27, 2023 12:27 AM
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Liked the manga better
Feb 1, 10:40 PM

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Why is this bitch still alive; Rachel must die.
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Mar 4, 10:20 AM
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I was expecting more, but it was still a good anime.
Mar 6, 7:23 AM
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Good anime Iloveit

Mar 7, 9:28 AM
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I despise Rachel!
May 18, 6:49 AM
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the reasons behind everything that rachel do is a 10/10 plotwist
Jun 18, 3:00 PM

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Very interesting first half, got really annoying later tho with annoying af protag.
Jun 22, 8:49 AM

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This was the most okay anime I've watched in a long time it's not even funny. To me it's what the kids of Twitter call "mid". Other than this episode and maybe last episode just because of the cliffhanger, this show has been quite literally the definition of "mid". Whether that be due to that shitty ass animation or the rushed pacing or the story is really just that "mid", idk.

Though I'll give it this, I'm a sucker for those MC gets separated from main group that they were with in the beginning and then run into them in the future eventually type beats, if that even is a thing lol. Do hope next season is better, considering it's 2 cours, but who knows if the studio can handle that.


Jun 26, 11:44 AM
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Here I am at the end of my rewatch, on a Wednesday like back then 4 years later, absolutely insane to think about but this was a great rewatch which was actually enhanced by it being so long since I first watched it because I forgot a lot of the big plot moments, like i remembered Rachel pushing Bam but I couldn’t remember for the life of me what the context was or why it happened, well now I know again with a lot of extra info from this episode which was pretty much entirely about Rachel’s side of things this whole time, really eye opening stuff that explains her behavior up to this point. The wildest part tho, can’t really tell if I hate her or not lol, it looked like there were times where she wavered and times where she was in despair, but she ultimately chose to do what she needed to do to climb the tower, it was that worth it to her, and she’s certainly demented now with that laughing scene but even then, not certain I can hate her completely, but what I am certain about is that she’s a very interesting character that I want to see more of.

And now Bam’s friends believe he’s dead and their plan is to take Rachel to the top like he wanted (if only they knew lol) and now Bam is being trained by the previously masked staff wielding babe with red hair, and back then with no Season 2 in sight this ending kinda hurt, but now that Season 2 is just around the corner this ending has me very excited for what’s to come, i remember liking this show quite a bit in 2020 but I think I’m a bit more invested now thanks to that. And once again, this was a great rewatch, Tower of God is a very well made show and despite whatever corners were cut in the adaptation it is still an exciting watch, imo it didn’t feel rushed overall, I felt the pacing was very good, great characters too including some amazing waifus, I remember being particularly into Yuri and Endorsi back then and I can say I still like them now lol.

And I gotta mention that OP and ED again, I’m by no means a Kpop stan but I think picking a Korean group for a Korean series adaptation is so cool, and the songs are great too. And now I just gotta sit tight and wait for Season 2, I can finally see what the me from 2020 never thought would happen lol. But, I’m not done rewatching stuff yet, there’s another 2020 show I must return to very soon as well.
Jun 30, 6:09 PM

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Great final episode
Jul 1, 2:23 PM
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EVERYONE WELCOME TO THE RACHEL HATE TRAIN! THE PROLOGUE IS OVER! THE JOURNEY BEGINS NOW!
Jul 10, 9:40 PM
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Witnessed someone

Deny that climbing a tower was the answer.

Say no to being trained by big booba obi wan.
Whom professed that climbing the tower provides the truth.

With great effort overcome this fallacy.
That is a certain law of nature.

To become enlightened by their struggle.
Uttering that no they would not climb the tower.

As no answers were there.
But that they themselves... Would find the answers.

And that, yes, they themselves would not stop.

Until they had climbed the tower.

*Doing so while staring upwards and away*
*From any living beings or the camera*
*As to invoke emphasis on revelation of god*
**Ominous chorals intensify**
*Rachel monologuing about climbing*
**Ominous chorals intensify**
*Obi Wan booba namedrops title of work*
**Ominous chorals intensify**
***Ominous chorals at 11***
*Rachel finishes us out with final relevance*

*-scene-*

Yep. That happened.

Surprised it was adapted at all.
Would not have been opposed.

To taking liberties with that end epilogue.
And having reasonable dialogue.

Especially because there was no reason.
Not to simply have some characters.
Remain silent.

Ie expressing emotively.
What they peers were affirming.

Or what the staff had started off with.

Having each person have a "moment".

To affirm their goals of climbing the tower.

While standing at the entrance to hell.
Your commander about to hit the switch.
To greenlight your groups drop.

Entirely aware, prepared. Mind body and spirit.

Your about to do this.
Prayers are uttered. For your life is your own.
And your glory is in the enemies deaths.

See? How there really is little chance.

We will mistake such circumstances.
Requiring guidance on how to interpret.
Our heroes future. As we witness their present.
We are onlookers to their determination.

No words need uttered.
To express actions.

Hearing it. Was so sad.
That I was watching in disbelief.

There was 10 minutes at least.
Of them mourning, coming to terms.
Acting on a plan. Having normal conversation.
Then transmission to their day of reckoning.

What compelled anyone. To not justify.
Cutting the repetitious nature.

Of the dialogue. Of one who's intent is extant.

Is well beyond my limited understanding.
Of their professional environment.

Of this production. Its vested stakeholders.
Or why they thought they would see success with that.

Seriously. I watched this due a continuation.

Of its overall work. Airing, now, in Summer 2024.

I hope to God. That these past four years have seriously changed something.

As this has so much pulling for it.
But only so much can overcome that amount of absurdity.

I'm really difficult to displease.
You pull it off with effort. And I saw nothing but effort made.

To make something special shine.

With a level of care. Making it worth my effort.

In giving it a chance. Reciprocating in kind.

All what they put into it.

Yet that does little to dissuade this type of failure.
Even with that good of a production.

I can't say this is above a 4/10.
Its just not there.

And... I don't believe its fault of the production.
Instead its a core issue with product.

Here's hoping the second season.
Will be granted liberties to selectively fix.
This circumstance. To best adapt it to the screen.

As nothing would be a better outcome.
For something that deserves the best.
Even if it must change slightly to see that.
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She is really broken lol
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Jul 27, 1:02 PM

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The top brass interferes too much, everything that happens is because of Headon
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So, after watching a bit of season 2 and rewatching season 1 this week,
I'm slightly puzzled I would need some answers ladies and gentlemen




is that really the end of the season?
so many questions seem to be unanswered
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The plot was engaging, with a mysterious aura that kept me eager to watch every next episode. I liked the characters, including Rachel, who succeeded in being hateable, which I think was her intended role. The only character I sometimes disliked was Bam, but that's just because I have a personal aversion to naive and overly optimistic characters. Some people criticized the animation, but I personally didn't mind it. Although it wasn't perfect in some scenes, it was still good enough. For me, the standout element was Kevin Penkin's music, which always manages to touch me emotionally.
For me, this first season is an 8.
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So the reason that Rachel pushed Yoru off the bubble/platform they were on is because she was jealous of his accomplishments and wants to stand alone as the special star at the top of the tower, talk about selfish and dumb. If only Rak and the other teammates knew although I think Khun has some doubts on what Rachel said.

Anyway, this was an enjoyable watch which I planned to do when I found out S2 was going to air summer 2024 so I can continue with the storyline without delay.

8/10
Aug 14, 7:42 AM
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Amazing! Can't wait for more episodes!!
Aug 19, 1:47 PM
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rae bad girl T-T Made me sad sob sob.......
Aug 19, 8:30 PM
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This shit is NOT evangelion
- just a bunch of fluffy monologing about about the simplest shit that we literally already just watched.
- I loved this show, but this episode fuckin sucks man
- unfortunately might have knocked off a point or two for me
Sep 5, 4:34 AM

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May you live forever, you rotten b*tch...
Oct 10, 2:56 PM
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I think it's a fabulous piece of art, very high level as a manga.
Oct 23, 9:08 PM

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What a sneaky bitch I might be late on the hating Rachel train but damn all my homies hate Rachel
Oct 29, 12:46 AM
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it was good and liked it again when rewatching
Nov 10, 4:37 PM
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بیا فصل سه تایید کن الان که فصل دو بخاطره یه استودیو دیگه ریده شد اگر فصل دو الان میساختی صددرصد احتمال بهترین انیمه سال شدن داشت
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fun ride, quite a shocker she decided to betray him again cuz theyre all helping him, and her, get thru. idk who is higher on the rank, but im guessing the admin (giant eye?) is higher than headon, she couldve gotten in..?
not much is known about rachel, but im guessing she spent every waking hour with bam, but why the 180˚ turn
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Dec 2, 2:31 PM
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Nov 2023
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I just loved it so much
Dec 12, 7:48 PM
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Oct 2024
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Good ending, good
Dec 18, 1:09 AM
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Pelo visto esse episódio é original de certa forma, segundo os leitores do original
Mas estou satisfeito, isso transpareceu uma perspectiva bastante natual sobre o outra lado da moeda, acredito que o objetivo era fazer-nos odiar essa vadia da Rachel mais ainda? Lol eles conseguiram....

Também achei interessante a postura adotada da qualidade das OSTs, em geral é bastante descendente nas lutas e momentos de tensão, no entanto a animação não foi muito estável

7/10 eu diria
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