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Like the source material, it's an ecchi harem series. That's the only reason anyone is reading the manga and I assume is also the reason for watching the anime.

What is the point of an ecchi series if you have such horrible censoring?

There's like 1-2 of these shows per season but it seems to attract moral purists for some odd reason. Any time someone brings up the censorship, the "touch grass" bros just start popping up.

I have doubts these people are even watching this show as the plot is pretty shallow, the action has weak animation, the characters are all standard archetypes.
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I am waiting for the uncensored version
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Im watching for ecchi, fubuki, plot and cuz reading the manga
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For the "Plot" 👽
Jan 29, 3:26 AM
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mechian said:
Like the source material, it's an ecchi harem series. That's the only reason anyone is reading the manga and I assume is also the reason for watching the anime.

What is the point of an ecchi series if you have such horrible censoring?

There's like 1-2 of these shows per season but it seems to attract moral purists for some odd reason. Any time someone brings up the censorship, the "touch grass" bros just start popping up.

I have doubts these people are even watching this show as the plot is pretty shallow, the action has weak animation, the characters are all standard archetypes.

the one thing that comes to my mind whenever I watch an episode is that...
this anime is nothing but a shorter version of bleach that is being portrayed in an ecchi way.
Jan 29, 3:31 AM
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Sad to see how the anime is turning out.

Cgi action, censored ecchi and lucklustre animation.

It had it all to be the next big ecchi/action anime.

Sadly wrong decisions were made at corporate level and now we're left with this.
"Even villains have standards"
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Jan 29, 3:38 AM
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AcceleratorAngel said:
Sad to see how the anime is turning out.

Cgi action, censored ecchi and lucklustre animation.

It had it all to be the next big ecchi/action anime.

Sadly wrong decisions were made at corporate level and now we're left with this.

Honestly I’m kinda just happy with it being how it is, I still find it enjoyable to watch. Sure the CG and animation can be a bit janky at certain moments but overall it doesn’t take away from the excitement of watching it.
Jan 29, 3:51 AM
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"Touch grass" is a valid rebuttal, because if you'll take a closer look at this series, it actually has something besides mindless ecchi to offer like an actual character dynamic and growth and falling to even notice that, just like hyperfixating on the most shallow aspect of she show would be your fault.
Ecchi scenes are properly separated from actions scenes, so you won't see boobs jiggling for no reason when girl performs an attack. This is actually a good thing, if you realize that one of the main purpose of ecchi fanservice is to distract the audience for flaws and shortcomings, which is why almost every ecchi series is considered trash.

Jan 29, 4:02 AM
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"Touch grass" is a valid rebuttal, because if you'll take a closer look at this series, it actually has something besides mindless ecchi to offer like an actual character dynamic and growth and falling to even notice that, just like hyperfixating on the most shallow aspect of she show would be your fault.
Ecchi scenes are properly separated from actions scenes, so you won't see boobs jiggling for no reason when girl performs an attack. This is actually a good thing, if you realize that one of the main purpose of ecchi fanservice is to distract the audience for flaws and shortcomings, which is why almost every ecchi series is considered trash.
@Piromysl I think you're confused. The plot is the shallow aspect of this show, the main purpose of this show is an ecchi harem romcom with the subpar plot and action built around it.

The literal premise is the MC is in a S&M slave relationship with a female Dom and he gets "rewards", and of course the "master" can lend out her "property" to others. They built a whole fucking plot around this idea.

And yes this series is supposed to be trash, it also fails at the one thing it's supposed to be good at - a trashy ecchi anime. Akogarete knows what it is, their target audience, and doesn't pretend to be otherwise. There's a dozen other deep and sophisticated anime this season that you can watch.
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mechian said:
@Piromysl I think you're confused. The plot is the shallow aspect of this show, the main purpose of this show is an ecchi harem romcom with the subpar plot and action built around it.

The literal premise is the MC is in a S&M slave relationship with a female Dom and he gets "rewards", and of course the "master" can lend out her "property" to others. They built a whole fucking plot around this idea.

And yes this series is supposed to be trash, it also fails at the one thing it's supposed to be good at - a trashy ecchi anime. Akogarete knows what it is, their target audience, and doesn't pretend to be otherwise. There's a dozen other deep and sophisticated anime this season that you can watch.

That's just like your opinion, bro.
I mean, if that's all you manage to perceive, then you do yours.
Maybe it's just me having media literacy and actually hallucinating this character interactions, dynamic, both main leads filling in for each other's flaws, their relationship blooming etc... Not sure.
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Jan 29, 4:11 AM
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Please do explain how the plot is shallow. Cuz from everything I have seen and watched, the plot is very much okay and easy to understand. And if u really think the fight actions of this anime are subpar, please take it to mind that at least they aren't using repeated fight scenes unlike certain other anime. And the ecchi is just okay for me. So u guys have actually no reason to troll the anime as much as u are doing. The only main issue is the CGI shuuki so that's where they need work. If not it's a very nice anime.
Jan 29, 4:19 AM
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You know it's hard to watch every time the same thing, an anime goes out airing and someone doesn't like it. Till here it's fine, everybody is entitled to their opinion. But you don't have to be blind about the merits of the show, like the downsides of it. If you don't enjoy the show it's fine and you can open a topic about it, but don't act like everyone has poor taste except you. It's kinda disgusting human behaviour.
Jan 29, 4:24 AM
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I’m reading the manga and it loooks sooooo good and I’m jus waiting for the next episode
Jan 29, 4:27 AM
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You know it's hard to watch every time the same thing, an anime goes out airing and someone doesn't like it. Till here it's fine, everybody is entitled to their opinion. But you don't have to be blind about the merits of the show, like the downsides of it. If you don't enjoy the show it's fine and you can open a topic about it, but don't act like everyone has poor taste except you. It's kinda disgusting human behaviour.
@CallOfTheWeeb What is the point of a forum if not to critique and discuss the pros and cons? Discussing the horrible censorship is a valid topic for discussion. Look up the definition of a forum.
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I starting reading this series because it was from the same guy that did Akame ga kill & I continued reading the series because of Tenka Izumo.
Jan 29, 4:36 AM
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mechian said:
@CallOfTheWeeb What is the point of a forum if not to critique and discuss the pros and cons? Discussing the horrible censorship is a valid topic for discussion. Look up the definition of a forum.

You haven't read properly my message. I told you that you can by every mean. I don't like censorship too. I'm not going to repeat my message but I can tell you this. The plot is different from the gimmick the author uses for his show. So the relationship between the mc and the chief of the seventh division isn't the plot.
Jan 29, 4:36 AM
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To be completely honest, I have no idea why. I even bought the first volume in anticipation of the anime and I don’t know why.



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Jan 29, 4:44 AM
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Sunk cost fallacy
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I watch it for the BDSM theme and the borderline ecchi scenes, nothing more and nothing less.
Sure it would be nice if it had less censoring, but I'm not gonna lament over it because I grew out of being a "it's not like in the manga" complainer.
No, this isn't my signature~desu.
Jan 29, 5:39 AM
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i watch it cause it just goofy and fun, I dont expect much but so far it at least matched and sometimes surpassed my expectations. Its just fun, no need to overthink it
Jan 29, 6:26 AM

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"Touch grass" is a valid rebuttal, because if you'll take a closer look at this series, it actually has something besides mindless ecchi to offer like an actual character dynamic and growth and falling to even notice that, just like hyperfixating on the most shallow aspect of she show would be your fault.
Ecchi scenes are properly separated from actions scenes, so you won't see boobs jiggling for no reason when girl performs an attack. This is actually a good thing, if you realize that one of the main purpose of ecchi fanservice is to distract the audience for flaws and shortcomings, which is why almost every ecchi series is considered trash.
@Piromysl

Not rlly when the main merchandise being sold for the anime are lingerie borderline h figurines.

All merchandising put into prespective that it's through and through an ecchi anime, esp when the action is sidelined heavily.

Mato seihei was touted as the next big ecchi anime and now it all comes crashing down, with the bd pre orders going down the viewership numbers soaring heavily.

And even here in the west the series has now a score below 7.

We can say with confidence the anime is a failure through and through.

And sadly with the current direction I see no chance for a revival.
AcceleratorAngelJan 29, 6:37 AM
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I am waiting for the uncensored version

Me too Bro 🤣🤣
Jan 29, 6:48 AM
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bEcAuSe sLaVeRy iS bAd
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@Piromysl

Not rlly when the main merchandise being sold for the anime are lingerie borderline h figurines.

All merchandising put into prespective that it's through and through an ecchi anime, esp when the action is sidelined heavily.

Mato seihei was touted as the next big ecchi anime and now it all comes crashing down, with the bd pre orders going down the viewership numbers soaring heavily.

And even here in the west the series has now a score below 7.

We can say with confidence the anime is a failure through and through.

And sadly with the current direction I see no chance for a revival.
@AcceleratorAngel That's a whole lot of nothing you just said.
It's pretty obvious, that if you have a visually appealing female characters, then they will milk it with merch, regardless if the series is ecchi or not.
And dunno who told you that MAL score means anything, because you have a lot of people without media literacy who see only fanservice and absolutely nothing else.

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Blud you must be watching on YouTube,
Hidive have the Uncensored version
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@AcceleratorAngel That's a whole lot of nothing you just said.
It's pretty obvious, that if you have a visually appealing female characters, then they will milk it with merch, regardless if the series is ecchi or not.
And dunno who told you that MAL score means anything, because you have a lot of people without media literacy who see only fanservice and absolutely nothing else.
@Piromysl

It's the truth.

The series main selling is the ecchi, where it failed heavily.

Gushing over magical girls completely overtook a hyped up mato seihei anime.

Rightfully so the score is now 6.99 and will decline further if nothing changes.
"Even villains have standards"
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-I will read a book or novel if I want to fully immerse myself in a more detailed plot and visualize the scenes with more complex conversation, emotion, character perspective, and character depth.
-If I wanted less text and more illustrations, manga and visual novels might be a good choice.
-If I desire a specific genre, such as action pact and fantasy harem (without ecchi), multiple works like that exist, especially mainstream shonen and isekai.
-If I desire more heartbreaking, high-stress situations. Drama or psychology might be beneficial. Mature show included.
-if all I want to do is unwind. SOL and romance exist.
-If I want an Ecchi genre, I will indoctrinate everyone to touch some grass and flex my morality. Because the plot is the Holy Bible. And this genre don't cater anything lmao.
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@Piromysl

It's the truth.

The series main selling is the ecchi, where it failed heavily.

Gushing over magical girls completely overtook a hyped up mato seihei anime.

Rightfully so the score is now 6.99 and will decline further if nothing changes.
@AcceleratorAngel That's just like your opinion, bro.

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@AcceleratorAngel That's just like your opinion, bro.
@Piromysl

Agreed, also your opinion is fine.

But dont tell others who dont agree with censorship, "to touch grass".

It's condescending, making a valid point would make your argument more steadfast.

Let's keep it civil shall we. 😁
"Even villains have standards"
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Jan 29, 7:34 AM
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Watching this because I actually enjoy it. Will probably start the manga after it’s finished if a season 2 isn’t announced
Jan 29, 9:07 AM
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I saw the manga cover and thought the art was great so I decided to watch the show. I don’t like woman so I don’t get any sexual pleasure from watching the show.
I thought the chain aesthetic on the manga cover was cool. I watch a lot of shows I don’t actually like just because. I only really hate on a show if it has stuff I genuinely really dislike or it doesn’t live even come close to living up to its popularity.
So basically I’m just watching this because I felt like it and I don’t like to not complete shows.
Jan 29, 9:22 AM
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Watching for 0 reason thank you for making me drop it
Jan 29, 9:46 AM
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Im watching for ecchi, fubuki, plot and cuz reading the manga

Hopefully fubuki appears in the anime
Jan 29, 10:58 AM
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Action, Plot , characters, and mainly the fmc .
These are the stuffs which comes at the top of my head but i can think about more
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cuz it is a masterpiece
Jan 29, 1:19 PM
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i like the story and world building, but i didnt even get past the first ep. as it stands i see no reason to watch the show over reading the manga, which is what im doing
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mechian said:
Like the source material, it's an ecchi harem series. That's the only reason anyone is reading the manga and I assume is also the reason for watching the anime.

What is the point of an ecchi series if you have such horrible censoring?

There's like 1-2 of these shows per season but it seems to attract moral purists for some odd reason. Any time someone brings up the censorship, the "touch grass" bros just start popping up.

I have doubts these people are even watching this show as the plot is pretty shallow, the action has weak animation, the characters are all standard archetypes.

Ecchi is mid. I hate it. But the plot is goated
Jan 29, 6:02 PM
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I feel the sexual stuff feels out of place cos the story and fight styles are really good. his sister a villain the look after family stuff. solo leveling is the same thing
Jan 29, 6:14 PM
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Piromysl said:
"Touch grass" is a valid rebuttal, because if you'll take a closer look at this series, it actually has something besides mindless ecchi to offer like an actual character dynamic and growth and falling to even notice that, just like hyperfixating on the most shallow aspect of she show would be your fault.
Ecchi scenes are properly separated from actions scenes, so you won't see boobs jiggling for no reason when girl performs an attack. This is actually a good thing, if you realize that one of the main purpose of ecchi fanservice is to distract the audience for flaws and shortcomings, which is why almost every ecchi series is considered trash.

what the actual fuck is this garbage lol

" distract from flaws and shortcomings " you say this as if the only reason authors add lewd content is because they *can't* write a story and Characters, both stuff can coexist

you're saying all of this on a show that's extremely degenerate lol

" that's why most ecchi are considered trash " they're considered trash because most anime fans are snowflake puritans who Complain about the slightest amount of nudity, you can have the best writing ever in an ecchi and it'll be called trash unless if you're monogatari, in which case people make up stuff to justify the fanservice lol

also " touch grass " is dumb because you're literally defending censorship in an ecchi series that RELIES on ecchi, telling people to touch grass because they don't want censorship is extremely stupid
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@Piromysl

Not rlly when the main merchandise being sold for the anime are lingerie borderline h figurines.

All merchandising put into prespective that it's through and through an ecchi anime, esp when the action is sidelined heavily.

Mato seihei was touted as the next big ecchi anime and now it all comes crashing down, with the bd pre orders going down the viewership numbers soaring heavily.

And even here in the west the series has now a score below 7.

We can say with confidence the anime is a failure through and through.

And sadly with the current direction I see no chance for a revival.

he's full of shit lol
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AcceleratorAngel said:
@Piromysl

It's the truth.

The series main selling is the ecchi, where it failed heavily.

Gushing over magical girls completely overtook a hyped up mato seihei anime.

Rightfully so the score is now 6.99 and will decline further if nothing changes.

I'm sorry to tell you this but the anime having low ratings isn't ( mainly ) Because of censorship, it's because it's an ecchi, which are hated/ignored 95% of the time

there's SO MANY ecchi series that are as degenerate as this and have 0 censorship, yet they also have low ratings

people are snowflakes puritans and unironically think that a show having sexual content means it's " bad " , that's about it

i mean, people still bitch about fire force fanservice 24/7 even though it affects nothing and all the fanservice scenes amount to less than 5 mins over a 48 eps show lol
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Such a dumbass decision to think someone will actually buy the blue-ray after such an ads adaptation.

The bath scene of episode 3 was the deal breaker to me.

I’m dropping it.

I have Mahou Shoujo Akogarete in the literal same damn season.
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AcceleratorAngel said:
@Piromysl

It's the truth.

The series main selling is the ecchi, where it failed heavily.

Gushing over magical girls completely overtook a hyped up mato seihei anime.

Rightfully so the score is now 6.99 and will decline further if nothing changes.

I'm sorry to tell you this but the anime having low ratings isn't ( mainly ) Because of censorship, it's because it's an ecchi, which are hated/ignored 95% of the time

there's SO MANY ecchi series that are as degenerate as this and have 0 censorship, yet they also have low ratings

people are snowflakes puritans and unironically think that a show having sexual content means it's " bad " , that's about it

i mean, people still bitch about fire force fanservice 24/7 even though it affects nothing and all the fanservice scenes amount to less than 5 mins over a 48 eps show lol
@Saimatsu_Fan Nah, Akogarete is at 7.61 now.

This one just has butchered censoring. It might get a 7.2 if it didn't.
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Saimatsu_Fan said:
Piromysl said:
"Touch grass" is a valid rebuttal, because if you'll take a closer look at this series, it actually has something besides mindless ecchi to offer like an actual character dynamic and growth and falling to even notice that, just like hyperfixating on the most shallow aspect of she show would be your fault.
Ecchi scenes are properly separated from actions scenes, so you won't see boobs jiggling for no reason when girl performs an attack. This is actually a good thing, if you realize that one of the main purpose of ecchi fanservice is to distract the audience for flaws and shortcomings, which is why almost every ecchi series is considered trash.

what the actual fuck is this garbage lol

" distract from flaws and shortcomings " you say this as if the only reason authors add lewd content is because they *can't* write a story and Characters, both stuff can coexist

you're saying all of this on a show that's extremely degenerate lol

" that's why most ecchi are considered trash " they're considered trash because most anime fans are snowflake puritans who Complain about the slightest amount of nudity, you can have the best writing ever in an ecchi and it'll be called trash unless if you're monogatari, in which case people make up stuff to justify the fanservice lol

also " touch grass " is dumb because you're literally defending censorship in an ecchi series that RELIES on ecchi, telling people to touch grass because they don't want censorship is extremely stupid

You have no fkin idea what you are even talking about and you being needlessly emotional does not change that.

Dunno why you take that "this show relies entirely on ecchi" take from, but this is so objectively wrong, that I fint even feel like explaining, but maybe the reason is your complete lack of media literacy. Dunno, don't care.
Keep in mind that just because you're upset it doesn't mean you're right.

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Piromysl said:
Saimatsu_Fan said:

what the actual fuck is this garbage lol

" distract from flaws and shortcomings " you say this as if the only reason authors add lewd content is because they *can't* write a story and Characters, both stuff can coexist

you're saying all of this on a show that's extremely degenerate lol

" that's why most ecchi are considered trash " they're considered trash because most anime fans are snowflake puritans who Complain about the slightest amount of nudity, you can have the best writing ever in an ecchi and it'll be called trash unless if you're monogatari, in which case people make up stuff to justify the fanservice lol

also " touch grass " is dumb because you're literally defending censorship in an ecchi series that RELIES on ecchi, telling people to touch grass because they don't want censorship is extremely stupid

You have no fkin idea what you are even talking about and you being needlessly emotional does not change that.

Dunno why you take that "this show relies entirely on ecchi" take from, but this is so objectively wrong, that I fint even feel like explaining, but maybe the reason is your complete lack of media literacy. Dunno, don't care.
Keep in mind that just because you're upset it doesn't mean you're right.

" media Literacy "

plz stop having Reddit mentality
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mechian said:
@Saimatsu_Fan Nah, Akogarete is at 7.61 now.

This one just has butchered censoring. It might get a 7.2 if it didn't.

again, tons of uncensored ecchi shows also have low ratings
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Saimatsu_Fan said:
Piromysl said:

You have no fkin idea what you are even talking about and you being needlessly emotional does not change that.

Dunno why you take that "this show relies entirely on ecchi" take from, but this is so objectively wrong, that I fint even feel like explaining, but maybe the reason is your complete lack of media literacy. Dunno, don't care.
Keep in mind that just because you're upset it doesn't mean you're right.

" media Literacy "

plz stop having Reddit mentality

Bro, if you're wrong, then just admit it and move on with your life. There is no need to keep humiliating yourself.

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Piromysl said:
Saimatsu_Fan said:

" media Literacy "

plz stop having Reddit mentality

Bro, if you're wrong, then just admit it and move on with your life. There is no need to keep humiliating yourself.

you're responding to critcisms of censorship with " touch grass " you're full of shit

what exactly am i wrong about ? that the show isn't relying on ecchi ? you know the same show when the MC gets Sexual rewards from his harem ?
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Piromysl said:
Saimatsu_Fan said:

" media Literacy "

plz stop having Reddit mentality

Bro, if you're wrong, then just admit it and move on with your life. There is no need to keep humiliating yourself.

you're responding to critcisms of censorship with " touch grass " you're full of shit

what exactly am i wrong about ? that the show isn't relying on ecchi ? you know the same show when the MC gets Sexual rewards from his harem ?
@Saimatsu_Fan Bro has watched over 19,000 episodes of anime since 2015, that's like 915 hours a year while the average person works 2000 hours a year. Not including any manga he reads or games he also probably plays.

Completely tone deaf "touch grass" comment.
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Saimatsu_Fan said:
Piromysl said:

Bro, if you're wrong, then just admit it and move on with your life. There is no need to keep humiliating yourself.

you're responding to critcisms of censorship with " touch grass " you're full of shit

what exactly am i wrong about ? that the show isn't relying on ecchi ? you know the same show when the MC gets Sexual rewards from his harem ?

Presenting supposed "criticism" as objective statement and getting needlessly emotional? Nah. Not worthy of respect.

Just like you having an unprovoked conniption over seeing something you don't like on the internet. That's kinda pathetic.
If you really believe, that this show relies in it's entirety on ecchi, then you are simply not paying attention. I don't feel like gaining explaining why, so you can just scroll up just like many others have explained.
So, yeah. "Go touch grass".
PiromyslJan 29, 10:37 PM

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