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Oct 4, 2023 3:41 AM
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Just watch the wholething today in one sitting really liked it but man they really bamboozled it huh

And they didn't even kill the guy. I really liked the series but i felt betrayed by this shit was planning on reading the manga but i don't think i can go further than this it will just feel dreadfull and make me feel shit.

One of the highlights of the show was the chemistry between the to lead but this one just make it feel wrong

I hope author would stop doing things like this going for unnecessary things that could be handled way better that would make the audience satisfied and it seems it was supposed to be a bitter sweet moment but no it was just shit through and through. A good bitter sweet ending makes me think about it for a time and appreciate how great of a writing it was but this I'd rather not think about at all and would be happy if it erased in my mind for all eternity

RIP I really love this one but the author betrayed me. I've always thought that even if the the ending is garbage as long as the journey was fun it's fine but this type of shit make me feel like I've wasted my time watching this anime even though it was good for a time. I think as i grow older the more i understand got fans felt
Oct 4, 2023 3:48 AM
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Indeed peak fiction
LoayzaOct 4, 2023 3:52 AM
Oct 4, 2023 4:14 AM
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Angel_crush1 said:

And they didn't even kill the guy. I really liked the series but i felt betrayed by this shit was planning on reading the manga but i don't think i can go further than this it will just feel dreadfull and make me feel shit.


Spoiler
But like don't the majority of the victims in rapes undergo despair because no one came in and saved them? I think that's the pov the author tried to insert us in & if you feel betrayed then it worked.
If the author really wanted to satisfy the audience then the guy would be killed but no, the author isn't here to give us revenge orgasms
SrBryseOct 4, 2023 4:17 AM
Oct 4, 2023 4:23 AM
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But still u can say it added spice to already weird anime but yea its unpunished. In latest chapters there is more about Robin and it will be more. Considering he did what he did in anime, there must be justice in manga later, its not only kiriko he done awful things to other girl, he will probably be punished. Its karma thing. But yea i wont rewatch this just cause of that, no thx i dont need reminder. But one thing that can ease ur mind is that kiriko is actually guy inside of sis body so i took it less horrible thing
Oct 4, 2023 4:24 AM
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It always makes me laugh when people complain, that character did not acted the way they wanted while not understanding their circumstances at all. ๐Ÿ˜‚
PiromyslOct 6, 2023 8:33 AM

Oct 4, 2023 5:01 AM
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1. It's not the ending, it's just where the anime decided to cut off.
2. You sound like a fanatic idol fan. " The author betrayed me". Good, the author doesn't owe u shit.
Oct 4, 2023 5:17 AM
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gonna have to disagree with you here. sure u can feel betrayed all you want but the author did not betray the narrative itself. it would be extremely out of character for kiriko to let robin die for a lot of reasons, first of all he's the only link kiriko has to her past, so it would be stupid to let that disapear. second, it was out of consideration for maru, who is on the verge of hating himself because he feels that everything he does leads to someones death, and he wouldnt forgive himself for killing robin. third kiriko has very fond memories of robin and found him after years of searching. thats not even taking into account the psycology of rape victims. besides, theres no garrentee that he wont show up later down the line and die horribly. but tbh i dont feel like narratives have any obligation to satisfy us.
Oct 4, 2023 5:19 AM
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Sekiro94 said:
But still u can say it added spice to already weird anime but yea its unpunished. In latest chapters there is more about Robin and it will be more. Considering he did what he did in anime, there must be justice in manga later, its not only kiriko he done awful things to other girl, he will probably be punished. Its karma thing. But yea i wont rewatch this just cause of that, no thx i dont need reminder. But one thing that can ease ur mind is that kiriko is actually guy inside of sis body so i took it less horrible thing

imo that kinda makes it more messed up
Oct 4, 2023 10:21 AM
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I feel like you hating just because you want to be hating, not because there is a good reason. In my eyes it was a really solid show. The last episode, I think people already explained it number of times, that sometimes, victims of rape Will have this thinkg called Stockholm syndrom. I dont think author did it to piss of people. I would be also suprised, if he didnt play an important role later on, so there are reasons not to kill that Guy, story wise.
Oct 4, 2023 10:43 AM

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Angel_crush1 said:
Just watch the wholething today in one sitting really liked it but man they really bamboozled it huh

And they didn't even kill the guy. I really liked the series but i felt betrayed by this shit was planning on reading the manga but i don't think i can go further than this it will just feel dreadfull and make me feel shit.

One of the highlights of the show was the chemistry between the to lead but this one just make it feel wrong

I hope author would stop doing things like this going for unnecessary things that could be handled way better that would make the audience satisfied and it seems it was supposed to be a bitter sweet moment but no it was just shit through and through. A good bitter sweet ending makes me think about it for a time and appreciate how great of a writing it was but this I'd rather not think about at all and would be happy if it erased in my mind for all eternity

RIP I really love this one but the author betrayed me. I've always thought that even if the the ending is garbage as long as the journey was fun it's fine but this type of shit make me feel like I've wasted my time watching this anime even though it was good for a time. I think as i grow older the more i understand got fans felt

What are you waffling about
Oct 4, 2023 11:55 PM
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Angel_crush1 said:
Just watch the wholething today in one sitting really liked it but man they really bamboozled it huh

And they didn't even kill the guy. I really liked the series but i felt betrayed by this shit was planning on reading the manga but i don't think i can go further than this it will just feel dreadfull and make me feel shit.

One of the highlights of the show was the chemistry between the to lead but this one just make it feel wrong

I hope author would stop doing things like this going for unnecessary things that could be handled way better that would make the audience satisfied and it seems it was supposed to be a bitter sweet moment but no it was just shit through and through. A good bitter sweet ending makes me think about it for a time and appreciate how great of a writing it was but this I'd rather not think about at all and would be happy if it erased in my mind for all eternity

RIP I really love this one but the author betrayed me. I've always thought that even if the the ending is garbage as long as the journey was fun it's fine but this type of shit make me feel like I've wasted my time watching this anime even though it was good for a time. I think as i grow older the more i understand got fans felt

what a snowflake jesus
Oct 5, 2023 10:52 AM

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TLDR I don't like THAT scene because it didn't go the way I wanted.....

This topic has already been beaten to death so I'm not gonna add anything more to the conversation.


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Oct 5, 2023 3:50 PM
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Yosakusan said:
1. It's not the ending, it's just where the anime decided to cut off.
2. You sound like a fanatic idol fan. " The author betrayed me". Good, the author doesn't owe u shit.

Yes. 2 is what got me. The author doesn't owe anyone loyalty in the making of their art. At most OP was betrayed by their own expectations, or their unwillingness to enjoy the story beyond them.
Oct 7, 2023 5:51 AM
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Piromysl said:
It always makes me laugh when people complain, that character did not acted the way they wanted while not understanding their circumstances at all. ๐Ÿ˜‚

This right here. ๐Ÿ‘†
Oct 8, 2023 5:20 PM
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The show is all around uncreative and full of borrowed ideas the author doesn't use especially well. It didn't surprise me that we never got the satisfaction of seeing Robin get killed and I was laughing my ass off when the rape victim said "I can't stay depressed forever" 4 hours after getting raped for a day.

It's a shame that the show has almost perfect music and cinematography, and is also stylized with fluid animation but all of that is wasted on a dual narrative where one side moves nowhere and the other side is knockoff TPN
Oct 8, 2023 5:25 PM
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SrBryse said:
Angel_crush1 said:

And they didn't even kill the guy. I really liked the series but i felt betrayed by this shit was planning on reading the manga but i don't think i can go further than this it will just feel dreadfull and make me feel shit.


Spoiler
But like don't the majority of the victims in rapes undergo despair because no one came in and saved them? I think that's the pov the author tried to insert us in & if you feel betrayed then it worked.
If the author really wanted to satisfy the audience then the guy would be killed but no, the author isn't here to give us revenge orgasms

Sadly I cant imagine a rape victim saying they cant stay depressed forever even after they get saved. Especially a victim whose specific circumstances make the rape even more stressful.

3/10 rape plotpoint they made in interesting while they got raped and got confused about their body but the author fumbled the end which relied on a teenage boy beating the shit out of an adult man and the author tops it off with the victim having a character moment that paints over the entire event as if it didnt happen
Oct 8, 2023 6:49 PM

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Well, all the show did was meander around it's simplistic mysteries and left off with a really big face-punching cliffhanger so I do imagine youd feel like this was a waste of time.
Keep scrolling
Oct 12, 2023 6:17 AM
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SrBryse said:
Angel_crush1 said:

And they didn't even kill the guy. I really liked the series but i felt betrayed by this shit was planning on reading the manga but i don't think i can go further than this it will just feel dreadfull and make me feel shit.


Spoiler
But like don't the majority of the victims in rapes undergo despair because no one came in and saved them? I think that's the pov the author tried to insert us in & if you feel betrayed then it worked.
If the author really wanted to satisfy the audience then the guy would be killed but no, the author isn't here to give us revenge orgasms

I'm actually ok with the situation as him walking away. So many victims never get justice. But a good story needs to have a point to the moments in it. Kiroko has already had senseless violence done to them. More than once, the author gave no reason for writing this scene besides drama. It's disrespectful to victims to use SA as a vehicle for convenient drama. As if, "he's a boy in a girl's body and girls get rped, so dur๐Ÿ™ƒ" it's disingenuous and the moment plays no role in furthering themes or changing Kiriko character. That's what disappoints me.
Oct 12, 2023 10:20 AM

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Reply to L_Jeans
SrBryse said:
Angel_crush1 said:

And they didn't even kill the guy. I really liked the series but i felt betrayed by this shit was planning on reading the manga but i don't think i can go further than this it will just feel dreadfull and make me feel shit.


Spoiler
But like don't the majority of the victims in rapes undergo despair because no one came in and saved them? I think that's the pov the author tried to insert us in & if you feel betrayed then it worked.
If the author really wanted to satisfy the audience then the guy would be killed but no, the author isn't here to give us revenge orgasms

I'm actually ok with the situation as him walking away. So many victims never get justice. But a good story needs to have a point to the moments in it. Kiroko has already had senseless violence done to them. More than once, the author gave no reason for writing this scene besides drama. It's disrespectful to victims to use SA as a vehicle for convenient drama. As if, "he's a boy in a girl's body and girls get rped, so dur๐Ÿ™ƒ" it's disingenuous and the moment plays no role in furthering themes or changing Kiriko character. That's what disappoints me.
@L_Jeans I saw many contributors here and on reddit who have apparently experienced in the part sexual assault and all of them said that how the rape is described and how Kiruko reacted after that is pretty realistic and that they appreciated that it's the case. I never saw anyone claiming to have experiance sexual assault and be offended by the way it was described in this show. Maybe they did not want to talk about it, absence of proof is not proof of absence. But still it seems to be reaching much to far to say that "It's disrespectful to victims" if the so called victims say the contrary.
As for Kiruko's reaction, it's been discussed a lot, you'll find many threads here explaining why it is so and why it's pretty realistic.
And it changes Kiruko. You cannot see it if you only watched the anime since there was a single episode after the assault, but it's clear in the manga.
Nov 7, 2023 2:19 AM
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As far as I’m aware he’s not seen Again after that ( most likely return at some point) nd the whole incident isn’t brought up again from what readers have said

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