| How do you know it wont turn out like in those two Series you just mentioned o.O It's not like everything Studio Orange ever did is amazing, even when looking at just the CGI thing. Beastars looked good. Yes. But that doesn't mean it's gonna look great for this one aswell. It's possible that the CGI is gonna look clunky and off. Like it does in so many Shows. If we were to know it's gonna be made exactly like the original was, which most people loved, we'd be happier. If anything else we KNOW already it's not gonna look like the Anime we remember so fondly. So people not beeing thrilled about this makes total sense, to me. |
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DrBalls said: Merve2Love said: How do you know it wont turn out like in those two Series you just mentioned o.O It's not like everything Studio Orange ever did is amazing, even when looking at just the CGI thing. Beastars looked good. Yes. But that doesn't mean it's gonna look great for this one aswell. It's possible that the CGI is gonna look clunky and off. Like it does in so many Shows. If we were to know it's gonna be made exactly like the original was, which most people loved, we'd be happier. If anything else we KNOW already it's not gonna look like the Anime we remember so fondly. So people not beeing thrilled about this makes total sense, to me. This is the most important project of Studio Orange. And they have also confirmed they will be pouring everything they have in it, they have their best staff working on it. Beastars and Houseki no Kuni looked amazing. And every new project of Orange does as well. Besides the Madhouse adaptation is incomplete and mostly anime original. Sure the art was great for the time, but being 2D doesn't automatically make the animation good. Cgi is easier to produce, adn with the right schedule and staff, it can look way better than anything Orange or any other japanese studio has done before, 3D animation wise. Yeah. And Im not saying that couldn't be the case. Im saying there is a possibilty for it to Look off. And That it won't look the way Fans of the original would want it t look |
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DrBalls said: Merve2Love said: Yeah. And Im not saying that couldn't be the case. Im saying there is a possibilty for it to Look off. And That it won't look the way Fans of the original would want it t look So basically what I got from this reply is, people are too delusional to accept that their favourite childhood anime won't look outdated anymore. Unfortunately I wasn't asking that. If this anime adapts the source material better than the original adaptation, would people still be annoyed by the cgi so much that they would never even consider the hard work put into this show? Manga readers are super excited for this, while the anime onlies are the only ones complaining. Which isn't a bad thing, it's good to keep expectations low just in case, but all the skepticism seems a bit exaggerated imo, especially considering the good reputation of the studio and staff working on it. Oh, I was just giving my opinion. Im pretty sure you aked if the cgi does bother people and what the overall experience was with it. I didn't know I was delusional, by stating I (and I think most people) would prefer a 2D Style. Im sorry. Im also not saying there aren't prople working hard on this or anything along those lines... Im excited for this, too :) Sorry if I upset you. |
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DrBalls said: Merve2Love said: Oh, I was just giving my opinion. Im pretty sure you aked if the cgi does bother people and what the overall experience was with it. I didn't knew I was delusional, by stating I (and I think most people) would prefer a 2D Style. Im sorry. Im also not saying there aren't prople working hard on this or anything along those lines... Im excited for this, too :) Sorry if I upset you. I didn't say you were delusional for expecting a 2D style, but as I mentioned a 2D style doesn't make everything automatically good nor acceptable. Im pretty sure...(again) You mentioned the Word delusional in referrence to the old "outdated" style, I said would be more popular amongst Fans .... You seem to be a bit excited. Why not take a break from the Internet, for a short while?^^ |
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DrBalls said: Merve2Love said: Im pretty sure...(again) You mentioned the Word delusional in referrence to the old "outdated" style, I said would be more popular amongst Fans .... You seem to be a bit excited. Why not take a break from the Internet, for a short while?^^ This whole discussion is about animation not art style. The 90's adaptation looked good due to the style, the animation itself was good for the time, but average for current standards. That's why I labeled it "ourdated". But you seem to only read and understand what you want to, rather than what I'm actually saying. Or maybe I'm just not making myself clear enough. And your attempts to anger and get a reaction out of me are pathetic. Look I got you^^ But maybe you also should actually say things before claiming you said things, you know I was just coming here answering your question, giving you a reply to your Thread. I don't get why you can't just accept and agree to disagree^^ |
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DrBalls said: Merve2Love said: Look I got you^^ But maybe you also should actually say things before claiming you said things, you know I was just coming here answering your question, giving you a reply to your Thread. I don't get why you can't just accept and agree to disagree^^ I said everything I said I said. ^^ Well you can read the whole thing to yourself again and see^^ I recommend it, it's quite funny but would require you to be open to the idea that you COULD be wrong sometimes (heaven forbid) |
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| Studio ORANGE has a good record of making CG anime. Even fight scenes were dope. |
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DrBalls said: Studio Orange is the best CGI studio in Japan I like their series but that's false. They're just good for weekly TV anime standards. |
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| yes especially here on MAL people score low every anime that is 3DCG @DrBalls offtopic but source of your forum signature? lots of 2D purists in this fandom especially MAL because just look at your forum signature for example its oozing hot and awesome for 2D |
| @DrBalls thanks and people here on MAL just like 2D animation just like that forum signature i doubt cel shaded 3DCG can do that with their low frame rate |
| Many people do come to anime medium for its 2-D animation. Its also a tradition stereotype (thats a hard nut to crack). Plus there are many which do look bad. It not unnatural to be pessimistic. |
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| Op It's entirely reasonable for people to be skeptical about this project. Just because Orange made 2 decent looking cgi shows, both of which inhabit non human characters (inherently easier to pull off with 3d) doesn't automatically mean that Trigun (which has only human characters and where human emotions and expressions are the essence of it) would also look good. Secondly, Trigun's cell animation is about as far away from CGI as it gets. It turns off old fans like myself who are accustomed to that and that is reason enough to not be hyped about it. You say that manga readers are excited, while anime onlys are not.. Well, I've read the manga and while I like it quite a bit and it has its advantages, I prefer the anime (which was in fact complete btw), mainly because the character arcs were more satisfying. I'm not even sure that's a minority opinion among manga readers btw. Regardless, I will watch it, but I am disappointed in the studio choice. I do hope that it's good and that it's an adaptation of the manga, cause there's some stuff that's definitely worth adapting in it, but the title tells me that it might not be... |
| 3D that tries to look like 2D never look as good, especially for non-mechanical characters. Animation always turns out looking robotic/stiff and they just don't have that 2D charm. If this project is taking that route, I honestly won't have high expectations. |
| It's a cumulative issue that mainly relies on the majority of the anime community bandwagoning, just like most common "complaints" about the medium. Because CGI is unpopular, few people watch shows animated in CGI. Therefore the only CGI shows to get mainstream attention are those that get passed around to laugh at, the Berserks and Ex-Arms. That reinforces everyone's assumptions about CGI, which means they ignore most shows animated in that way, and so on. |
| Well I for one already loved Lain. |
| I find it pretty valid to be upset given that 2D is a preference for many people and Japan hasn't quite gotten CG anime perfect just yet if we put preferences aside and just talk about quality and style. We are still in the development years to make anime CG be at the level I think everyone would want it to be and address reoccurring issues with it and MOST studios aren't even on Orange's level. One day that'll change though. But we are fortunate that if Trigun is going to be CG, at least it's being done by the best and that is why I'm able to more easily recover from the initial disappointment of being told that it won't be 2D. I really like the projects Orange has chosen to take on and them picking out Trigun really shows these guys have good taste. They're not quite PERFECT yet, but this seems to be the level of quality they're at atm https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H4wXUaPGZeg Their animated short Home gives us a good idea of how they'll handle more humanesc looking characters as opposed to Beastars animals and Houseki's pasty long gem hair girls. As well as similar environments that are seen in Trigun. I think a lot of people speak ignorantly about this. A Berserk 2016 type situation shouldn't be a fear in the slightest if you actually bother to research Houseki at the LEAST. But I see it still get brought up haha. I guess Houseki and Beastars are a bit more niche so most people haven't really seen much of them where as....everyone has heard of the BAD examples of CG. I really don't want to get to a point where it's a coin flip every time you find out your favorite anime is getting adapted if it's gonna be CG or 2D when I personally really just want 2D. But we are kinda hitting that point already. Overall I'm just happy at the chance to see the manga's story be properly told finally. I really didn't like the og anime as an adaptation. |
HassySodaJun 21, 2022 2:19 PM
| because it usually looks bad. However, I trust studio orange |
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| I'll give the show a try even if it's CGI, but if I see some bullshit on my screen I ain't even gonna bother watching the rest |
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| CGI anime is an acquired taste. I personally prefer traditional animation a lot more. There is no rational reason for it, CGI just looks ugly to me. Even Studio Orange stuff looks very "off" to me. Only exception is Arcane made by Fortiche Production. That one was really beautiful and I couldn't imagine this show in 2D. At the same time this argument doesn't matter. Not every anime is made for everyone. There is enough "traditional" anime for a lifetime. |
| Because it's a complete departure from the iconic style that people loved with the original? This style captures none of what made the original liked. |
| It doesn't look good. Maybe I've played too many high quality 3D games but it's easy to tell that this isn't the best budget studio out there for CGI. There are some filthy CGI movies (in JP I mean, Disney etc. are way better with it) like the Lupin III one but this is just sad in comparison. |
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