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Jun 16, 2022 11:40 AM

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-ShadowClaw- said:
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The story does get extremely peak but the anime has done an awful job of adapting it


The Animation quality really took a down turn cause this whole episode was mostly outsourced with DR Movie rather than Kimetra Circus.

IT is extremely apparent everytime that studio takes over the production the quality drastically drops. I swear they should of never let them get their hands on it as it is clear their wasnt any real communication between the two. I guess with both Covid and Made in Abyss s2 they had to get someone but they are just bad man. I really hope they dont get involved with s3 production.

I pretty much made my peace with this adaptation as it will never live up to s1. If that was a 9.5 this is a 6.5/7. Not too bad but certainly not great.

Well at least most of the scenes i wanted from the book made it in so i can always read those again with the scenes animated.


6.5 is way too kind. This is a 4-5/10 on a good day considering all the cuts to rishia and eclair characters, the butchered spirit tortoise the pacing and animation quality etc
Jun 16, 2022 12:15 PM
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Not gonna lie, that death was by far the dumbest I've seen in awhile, Kyo literally told him NOT to move so what does the genius do? He moves...

Kinda shocked though at the revelation Kyo wasn't trying to stop waves but create them, maybe I missed the foreshadowing? I probably did I am not great at seeing that so ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
Jun 16, 2022 12:16 PM

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Yaggamy said:
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If Raphtalia has the Vassal Katana, then why she didn't got teleported at the end with Kizuna & co.? I don't get it.

PD: Kizuna is by far, without a doubt, the best character on this.


Naofumi and Raphtalia isn't registered to the local Dragon Hourglass, that's why their team didn't get teleported when the wave started.
I get that, but still, Raphtalia is the user of the Vassal Katana, and it has been overexplained time and time again how the heroes/vassal heroes have to participate in waves like it or not because that's their mission, that's the only real use for their weapons, which are supposed to be "registered" by default, so I still think it was kinda weird for her not to be teleported with the others, ofc Naofumi shouldn't have because he is a hero from another world, but Raphtalia is a hero in THIS world and not the other, so, yeah, that could have been cool, since it would have made Naofumi even more desperate to find their location asap to help her... just saying.
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Jun 16, 2022 12:39 PM

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StallionXD said:
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Naofumi and Raphtalia isn't registered to the local Dragon Hourglass, that's why their team didn't get teleported when the wave started.
I get that, but still, Raphtalia is the user of the Vassal Katana, and it has been overexplained time and time again how the heroes/vassal heroes have to participate in waves like it or not because that's their mission, that's the only real use for their weapons, which are supposed to be "registered" by default, so I still think it was kinda weird for her not to be teleported with the others, ofc Naofumi shouldn't have because he is a hero from another world, but Raphtalia is a hero in THIS world and not the other, so, yeah, that could have been cool, since it would have made Naofumi even more desperate to find their location asap to help her... just saying.


Waves are local events and heroes are supposed to travel the world to fight them.

When waves were happening in Melromarc the 7 vassal heroes of that world weren't teleported there because they weren't registered to that local Dragon Hourglass.
Naofumi didn't have a wave countdown timer until he visited the Dragon Hourglass in season 1.
When the Cal Mira wave happened Naofumi was registered to that Dragon Hourglass and the Queen's fleet was in his party so they all could teleport there from Melromarc.
Raphtalia didn't visit any Dragon Hourglasses since becoming a hero.
Jun 16, 2022 7:30 PM

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Why is every man in this series has a female servant? Even villains have female entourage. The sexist nature of this show is boggling. Shounen or not, harem or not, it's lame. No wonder guys like it so much.
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Jun 16, 2022 11:14 PM

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oh my! Glass is totally different when it comes to Kizuna!
the rest of the ep seems MEH!
3/5.


Jun 17, 2022 3:50 AM
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The bad has reached the unintentionally funny levels. When the guy was sliced in half I couldn't help but burst out laughing.

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Jun 17, 2022 10:50 AM
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Season 2 was announced in 2019 right after S1 ended. How were 3 years not enough to finish this season?
What I mean is the obvious drop in animation quality which startet in episode 10 and most likely happened due to time constraints...
Other anime with only 2 years time manage to look good start to finish...
Jun 17, 2022 11:49 AM

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Just as everybody thought that Raphtalia couldn't possibly get any cuter, she shows up in a miko outfit 😻👌

Jun 17, 2022 12:51 PM

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Just curious anyone know what the JP reception has been? Wonder if we'll ever get a rundown on why this season has been a complete disaster.
Jun 17, 2022 12:53 PM

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Why is every man in this series has a female servant? Even villains have female entourage. The sexist nature of this show is boggling. Shounen or not, harem or not, it's lame. No wonder guys like it so much.


Lmfao get a new hobby. You don't like anime.
Jun 17, 2022 7:48 PM

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I just wonder if the source material is better than this (I suppose it is), and if so, how much better? Because this season JUST KEEPS GETTING WORSE.

Season 1 wasn't that good but still, is fuck up after fuck up. This post explains all the fuck ups only one episode have, and if you weren't sleeping you noticed at least one of those.
Jun 17, 2022 10:13 PM
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I just wonder if the source material is better than this (I suppose it is), and if so, how much better? Because this season JUST KEEPS GETTING WORSE.

Season 1 wasn't that good but still, is fuck up after fuck up. This post explains all the fuck ups only one episode have, and if you weren't sleeping you noticed at least one of those.


I can tell you with 1000% certainty that you are getting an inferior product in every way.

The Spirit turtle arc that was the first 6 episodes? Well that won't be the last time you see something like that, given that episode 10 talked about another Guardian Spirit.

I think this is the first time I would have to recommend you "start from scratch" and either pick up the manga (these two arcs would be chapters 43-88 I believe) or

go Light Novel 6-9.

I cannot recommend this second season in far too many aspects.
Jun 18, 2022 8:23 AM

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worst episode till now (even worse than turtle arc)
animation was laughable
character introduction was okay
hope quality would go up in final two episodes
Jun 18, 2022 10:25 AM

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Typecero said:
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was amazing despite the animation bullshit imo


That's why the poll for this episode did so well right?

...right?

Because it was AMAZING?


i mean MAL ratings and polls don't really mean much imo and the polls for episode 11 had a ton of positive votes so eh yeah bad argument
Jun 18, 2022 4:27 PM
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Kizuna sure is amusing. I really enjoyed that she was tearing into her own party, calling them the bad guys for attacking Naofumi. I hope she has even more of a role in the next season.

I generally enjoy when we get a look into gear as well. It was nice to see a little discussion with Naofumi's gear getting improved. I'm even almost okay with rehashing of the Filo Pajamas. It almost makes it seem like having that costume in the first place makes sense now.

I'm not entirely sure how this guy "created" a wave though. Or even why really? Is he that big of an antagonist? I didn't get that impression.
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Jun 18, 2022 10:22 PM
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Kizuna sure is amusing. I really enjoyed that she was tearing into her own party, calling them the bad guys for attacking Naofumi. I hope she has even more of a role in the next season.

I generally enjoy when we get a look into gear as well. It was nice to see a little discussion with Naofumi's gear getting improved. I'm even almost okay with rehashing of the Filo Pajamas. It almost makes it seem like having that costume in the first place makes sense now.

I'm not entirely sure how this guy "created" a wave though. Or even why really? Is he that big of an antagonist? I didn't get that impression.


Those last points you stated...

kinda makes me feel bad.

We have been in this world since episode 7, and now we gotta look back and ask ourselves "Wait, why did we need to stop this guy again?"

Kinda makes it look really bad that we don't know the motivations for a guy that TOOK CONTROL OF A RAMPAGING TURTLE...

But you know, "Spirit Turtle Bad", so I guess we can just sweep this unknown baddy under the rug.

I swear I know more about Slut/Bitch than our Genocidal Antagonist.
Jun 19, 2022 1:18 AM
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Rytakahashi09 said:
Anime characters that suddenly split in half never fail to amuse me lol, same thing happened to the dumb Eugeo from SAO

agree. this was pretty funny
Jun 19, 2022 1:21 AM
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Typecero said:
Those last points you stated...

kinda makes me feel bad.

We have been in this world since episode 7, and now we gotta look back and ask ourselves "Wait, why did we need to stop this guy again?"

Kinda makes it look really bad that we don't know the motivations for a guy that TOOK CONTROL OF A RAMPAGING TURTLE...

But you know, "Spirit Turtle Bad", so I guess we can just sweep this unknown baddy under the rug.

I swear I know more about Slut/Bitch than our Genocidal Antagonist.


Well, they're just questions I had that I wanted to put into words to help with my train of thought. That's not to say that they won't be addressed here next episode when Kyo gets confronted. But, for sure, Bitch, out of the gate, solidified herself as a significant antagonist and only grew worse with each passing episode. We got a lot of development out of her before a satisfying conclusion. That most definitely won't happen with Kyo unless he bleeds over into season 3. Even then, he still probably won't be as fleshed out as Bitch was, which is rather sad. I was expecting a step up in story and characters from the previous season, not a step down.
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Jun 19, 2022 1:23 AM
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can they just fight without shouting the skills's name pls? like when the lancer guy vs Naofumi in ss1, that fight was pretty good.

anime logic: always yell the name of the move that you want to use so the enemy knows what you will be doing
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commonxreaction said:
Typecero said:
Those last points you stated...

kinda makes me feel bad.

We have been in this world since episode 7, and now we gotta look back and ask ourselves "Wait, why did we need to stop this guy again?"

Kinda makes it look really bad that we don't know the motivations for a guy that TOOK CONTROL OF A RAMPAGING TURTLE...

But you know, "Spirit Turtle Bad", so I guess we can just sweep this unknown baddy under the rug.

I swear I know more about Slut/Bitch than our Genocidal Antagonist.


Well, they're just questions I had that I wanted to put into words to help with my train of thought. That's not to say that they won't be addressed here next episode when Kyo gets confronted. But, for sure, Bitch, out of the gate, solidified herself as a significant antagonist and only grew worse with each passing episode. We got a lot of development out of her before a satisfying conclusion. That most definitely won't happen with Kyo unless he bleeds over into season 3. Even then, he still probably won't be as fleshed out as Bitch was, which is rather sad. I was expecting a step up in story and characters from the previous season, not a step down.


Does rather annoy me... seeing a story that was already cut so harshly sacrificing further.

It's like we got dropped into episode 6 of the Original Star Wars, and we just had to figure out who Darth Vader was.
Jun 19, 2022 2:14 PM

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Typecero said:

Does rather annoy me... seeing a story that was already cut so harshly sacrificing further.

It's like we got dropped into episode 6 of the Original Star Wars, and we just had to figure out who Darth Vader was.


Ugh, that's a perfect analogy for how I've been feeling about this season.Thank you for putting that into words!
Like season 1 worked so well (relative to season 2) because they actually spent time fleshing out the antagonists. Here we're just like:

"yep, that's the villain, we're not going to tell you anything about him tho"
"okay but like why should we care about him?"
"because he's the villain. bad guy. yep."

And like I'm sure (plz don't let this age badly-) that they'lll give us Kyo's motivations and stuff in time, but right now it's just like "evil bad guy does bad things just because" and I just really want more than that. Especially for someone who has done the things he's done throughout season 2! Idk, just... this whole season has had me thinking, "This would be really great if we just had more time to spend on devoloping x, y, and z."




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Typecero said:

Does rather annoy me... seeing a story that was already cut so harshly sacrificing further.

It's like we got dropped into episode 6 of the Original Star Wars, and we just had to figure out who Darth Vader was.


Ugh, that's a perfect analogy for how I've been feeling about this season.Thank you for putting that into words!
Like season 1 worked so well (relative to season 2) because they actually spent time fleshing out the antagonists. Here we're just like:

"yep, that's the villain, we're not going to tell you anything about him tho"
"okay but like why should we care about him?"
"because he's the villain. bad guy. yep."

And like I'm sure (plz don't let this age badly-) that they'lll give us Kyo's motivations and stuff in time, but right now it's just like "evil bad guy does bad things just because" and I just really want more than that. Especially for someone who has done the things he's done throughout season 2! Idk, just... this whole season has had me thinking, "This would be really great if we just had more time to spend on devoloping x, y, and z."


That last part you said. The "time to spend on developing X, Y, and Z".

That is what this season has sorely lacked episode after episode.

Who is this Rishia and Eclair in episode 1? DON'T CARE MOVING ON.
Should we perhaps plan a little more on the Spirit Turtle attack strategy? DON'T CARE MOVING ON.

Oh so we beat the Spirit Turtle in 3 episodes? Well that sure takes the wind out of our sails!

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When I keep looking at the moments of this season I always come back to the statement of "Oh, that's nice. Well, Moving On!"

It's as if this season is being treated as a typical drive to work you've done 200 times, but the consequences of these 13 episodes should have FAR-REACHING IMPLICATIONS.
Jun 26, 2022 7:14 AM

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Damn Kyo has been misled, instead of focusing on this science bs he should have been banging that childhood pussy. What a waste.

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Jun 27, 2022 9:08 AM

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What an idiot Kazuki is. Even when he was told not to move.

Glass is no match for Kizuna and seeing Glass being scolded by her was funny.

And here comes the waves.

Jun 29, 2022 8:03 AM

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Well duh, we don't know the nature of the Waves..yet. So yes we need more intel on those but Kyo seems to have the more advanced knowledge of it all to able to trigger one. I don't understand why Kizuna was surprised of Kyo's triggered Wave, is the Waves different in this world (but it appears to be the same as the ones we've seen before in the other world) and she has the same countdown visible so I'm assuming she knows what the Waves are even before or it was explained before along with the other 3 who went to the other world, or the Infinite Labyrinth time skip for her was just too long she hasn't encountered any Waves yet after becoming Vassal Weapon Hero from Cardinal Hero? I think I'm the one confused now. LOL

I was wondering who was the brown-haired girl/woman on the picture frame whose face was blurred/covered by the glare? Somebody who'll turn up later, a foreshadowing, etc?
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Well duh, we don't know the nature of the Waves..yet. So yes we need more intel on those but Kyo seems to have the more advanced knowledge of it all to able to trigger one. I don't understand why Kizuna was surprised of Kyo's triggered Wave, is the Waves different in this world (but it appears to be the same as the ones we've seen before in the other world) and she has the same countdown visible so I'm assuming she knows what the Waves are even before or it was explained before along with the other 3 who went to the other world, or the Infinite Labyrinth time skip for her was just too long she hasn't encountered any Waves yet after becoming Vassal Weapon Hero from Cardinal Hero? I think I'm the one confused now. LOL

I was wondering who was the brown-haired girl/woman on the picture frame whose face was blurred/covered by the glare? Somebody who'll turn up later, a foreshadowing, etc?


The people in the picture were just randos, nothing important.
Kizuna is a cardinal hero not a vassal hero, and she was summoned to kill the Dragon Emperor. She doesn't know what a wave is. Naofumi is the one to indulge her.
Kizuna got the wave countdown timer after escaping the Infinite Prison.
And she was surprised because they had days before the wave and then the timer started to speed up.
You didn't pay attention to the story.
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You didn't pay attention to the story.
I did but I couldn't be bothered thinking too much or understanding it anymore, and I just wanted to move on.
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So Kazuki is either stupid or stubborn. It was made very clear by both Raphtalia and his servants that he wasn't supposed to move. He still did, and now he's dead.

But Kyo is apparently bringing him back to life so we'll see how that goes.

Then it seems we get to learn something about L'Arc. Apparently he's the young king of Sikul, and now Naofumi teases him by calling him Young Master.

And then the party meets Romina and Kizuna requests her to set them up with armor and equipment, IN ONE DAY might I add when Romina tells her initially that it'll take a week. Once the group walks out they confront Kyo's bodyguard, Yomogi Emarl. She starts fighting the group with a sword that Kyo made for her and the group quickly realizes that Kyo had malicious motives in giving her that sword. The idea was that the sword would blow her up along with everyone else. Luckily they caught on and that didn't happen.

Yomogi reveals that she was childhood friends with Kyo and his true objective is to stop the waves. When she said that, I had my doubts but like Kizuna I wanted to hear Kyo out.

Later on Romina gives the group the equipment and then... the wave counter accelerates and a wave has started. Kizuna, L'Arc, Therese, Glass, and Yomogi spawn near Kyo's lab, in which Yomogi realizes that Kyo's true goal was to START HIS OWN WAVE OF CATASTROPHE! Now she knows his true colors.

I'm excited to see what happens next!
Jul 24, 2022 4:33 PM
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It's no surprise that Kyo was trying to create his very own wave instead of stopping them, given that he's a typical twisted evil genius...

Happy to see Glass reunited with Kizuna. She really missed her dear friend. Yomogi is a bit naive imo, to trust someone like Kyo. However, the episode did show a bit of Kyo and Yomogi's childhood past. If they stop Kyo perhaps they'll manage to avert a war between the to worlds...

Looks like the next two episodes are going to be intense...
Aug 8, 2022 9:20 PM

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Finally, a finale build up that got me both excited and wanting! Let see Naofumi go rage MODE
Aug 22, 2022 8:29 PM

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Rip fucking bozo, out of all the people i'd expect to get sliced in half, the last I would think would be the second antag i don't even remember the name of. I actually started laughing cus of how long it took for the show to kill a character due to their own ego in such a funny way.

There goes the show spewing new characters off the bat. As much as i can understand Kizuna wanting to stop the waves not just in her world but Naofumi's as well, to go as far as to almost sympathise and listen to Kyo upfront is way to far. What hasn't Naofumi said to make him sound like a scumbag? I think in a scenario like this its very hard not to side with Naofumi especially after everything Kyo put him through. Well at least with Kizuna now witnessing a wave after Kyo's childhood friend said he was gonna "end them" and lying to her, i can kinda assume she won't even consider even hearing him out, right?

Wait so i either wasn't paying attention enough, or has Kizuna's world never experienced a wave before? At the end she says something along the lines of "so these are the waves Naofumi have to fight" implying that either she has never fought a wave before, or their world dosen't have waves and the vassal heroes are just for military uses.

Also love how they still haven't explained why Glass and L'arc thought trying to kill Naofumi and assisting the waves in destroying their world was the solution.Knowing the story it probably has something to do with Kyo, but i really want to hear one of the characters confirm it cus its kinda a huge plot point of S1.
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I can’t deal with how bad this season is… it’s like an amateur fan made season or something. It’s so out of balance with the first season that it feels like it’s not the same story.

This is so upsetting because I LOVED the first season but this one is just a mess. I’m going to keep my fingers crossed that season 3 will be better but I won’t hold my breath
Oct 3, 2022 10:31 PM

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I understand that it appears there was cut content, but that doesn't necessarily make this season bad, after a few episodes. I feel like as usual people complained too much instead of just enjoying it.

The plot and animation is kind of nice, not perfect, but can't complain
Nov 10, 2022 4:42 PM
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THIS SHOW FUCKING SUCKS
Nov 26, 2022 5:04 AM
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Kyo, before it was bad, but now it's a monster!!! kekeke
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Seriously, the story is a mess...maybe the LN better
Jan 26, 2023 11:57 AM

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oh now he can create waves......kill him already.
Mar 2, 2023 3:19 AM
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Bruv, why did she almost overpower them?
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Awesomeeeeeeeee
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It's really hard to say anything positive about this episode. Art is bad, animation is bad and story is bad as well.
Jul 13, 2023 5:59 PM
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Seems Raphtalia wasn't kidding when she said don't move. A pretty awesome battle thrown in too with all the team.
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This show turned itself around in the later half of season 2 my ratings going from a 3 to a 4
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Funniest fight ever. She goes to ambush them and gets ganked and sabotaged by her own sword.

Props to Kizuna for disapproving of world hopping just to kill other heros. It goes without saying that something like that isn't a great policy to have.



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Good to see Raphtalia reunites with Shield Hero.

Looks like L'Arc. Therese and Glass will no longer be fighting Shield Hero which is a good thing.

Kyo is so irritating. He needs to be brought down.
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The first season was far better. The second season is boring.
Jun 16, 2024 5:44 PM

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Epic Kizuna episode! 🥰🥰🥰

But they literally skipped Yomogi's character development. It was skimmed through... 😱
Her hard-headed-head was much more longer in the manga. I can't, believe they skimmed it... Sigh (she's still a cutie nonetheless)

Dear Glass getting yelled at by her best friend, Kizuna, was epic.
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It's not that I dislike this genre but... to add unnecessary fan services to/in/for heroines
and ultimately destroys her character and personality; their purity tarnished because of it,
is the only thing I hope to not happen to them. For that sole purity is my fan service.
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ROTFL -- died laughing when Kazuki got sliced in half. Best thing about the entire episode.

Meanwhile, other than Episodes 8 and 9, all of Season 2 is trash.
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