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| Yikes, Soma under pressure again in his role. At least he's able to keep his confidence and prevented a potential fight inside the kingdom itself. Kinda felt bad for the dragon race this episode though. And lol, it looks like both Liscia and Aisha wanted to share the same bed with Soma. Lucky guy. |
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| Honestly one part of the novel they did adapt well, i almost thought they would skip this but it was a good thing they didn't since it explains a lot. Well some corrupt nobles out of the way is always a good thing for the country and hopefully it sends a warning to the other nobles as well. Lets hope Souma won't have to repeat these actions. Anyway the girls being worried like that was nice of them. |
| It was a heavy and dramatic episode, but I really love this episode. This episode is probably the best episode from the second season so far. Finally, Roroa will make her moves. |
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| nice to see Carmine back, thou i heard from s1 he was going to live damn, low budget or crappy deadlines?  |
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| Though Liscia puts on a brave front and understands the necessity of it no women wants to share the one they love with others. Seeing her confiding with Carla shows this well. But her resolve to do what is needed for the country really is impressive. Souma's execution of the nobles was unexpectedly brutal and sudden but sure served as a great opportunity for the Black cats to make their entrance into the narrative and showing well his desire to both advance and secure the nation as well as protect his loved ones as well. Though his crime was grave exile from his lands and family while cruel was a fitting sentence for Castor. Carla becoming Souma's insurance if he ever went bad was an interesting role thats for sure. While necessary the mental toll of ordering those executions must have been brutal for Souma but the girls attempts to help him get through it really was cute. An excellent ep as always that featured some nice character expansions for Souma shown in his willingness to deal with threats preemptively with the creation of the Black cats and Liscia via insight into her inner thoughts. Really curious as to what Roroa is planning though. |
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| Every evildoer has been served justice, even down to Castor and Carla's trial. That should sned a message to the underground nobles still looking for an uproar against Elfrieden and Souma's kingdom. Once again, Machiavelli's rhetorics govern Souma's way of thinking, and laying down the heads of the rest of the nobles is an inditement that's not just the law of Elfrieden, but one of sound judgment even if it goes against morale since information could be leaked out this way. And that deed is done by the Black Cats and its leader Kagetora under Souma's Secret Service command, knowing that to take opportunities at the utmost and not leave a second chance behind because it could get worse. Only Piltory and Owen of the Houses of Saracen and Jabana got away scot-free with their severance towards their own families, and Souma is already steps ahead of the competition to lay his rule. The checks and balances of Souma's may be up there now, but who knows if he'll totally succumb to tyranny and be like an unjust noble. In today's world, Souma would've been as tyrannical, but back in those days, rules like these are unwritten taboo. Liscia and Aisha tried their best to smoothen Souma over this incidient by making an ecchi moment out of it, though he'd see it the wrong way. This episode had lotsa philosophy that may look controversial, though from one that's infamous like Machiavelli. Princess Roroa is planning her next move, what's it gonna be? |
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| Jesus, seeing soma go from not wanting to step on anyones toes to cutting entire groups of nobles heads off is some crazy development. Obviously he has to project strength in the aftermath of rebellion, but wasn’t expecting that. |
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| Wow that was another very heavy but great episode, though that execution was really something else but it was needed anyway, but it's understandable how Souma felt after that, at least he has his wives with him to get comfort, the whole Machiavelli's analysis and application was impressive to be honest |
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| Lucky POS Souma being able to share the bed with his two QUEENS!!! Great episode. |
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| BLERGH. This episode felt like it was written by a 12 year old in order to impress his 12 year old peers with so much edge. From the patronizing long explanations on Machiavelli's books to the whole 3 ring circus act this judgement on Vargas family was. How the fuck is he going to explain to the people that mysterious hooded men barged into their court and killed 10 of their highest nobles in the country. Sure, Souma probably had some BS evidence that they were corrupt and the puppetmasters behind the treason of Carmine & vargas, but executing them without due process makes his court lack any significance to any of his underlings, it makes him a hypocrite that doesn't believe in a justice system. The fact that he asks Carla to become his executor if he gets drunk on power and becomes a tyrant furthermore serves as cheap lampshading on the cringe edgy bloodbath this show tries to become. I was expecting Carmine to become a dog for Souma with the obvious staged death (it sucks how fake deaths are such recurring tropes in anime) but I wasn't expecting his role to stood this low. And of course the harem fanservice needs to fill in their quota in these "fantasy" shows. This is the lowest point the show has achieved for me in the 2 whole cours. |
| god damn. this is why i rated the first season so low. the fucking protag and the rest of the characters are so lame. Wow the beast guy actually DID NOT DIE. he spares the 2 peoples lives and tells the girl to kill him. And that cringe ass "protecting family etC" Is it that hard to write cool characters? |
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But he is true almost on every thing he said. Since the beginning this show was laughable literally on every story arc it had. And while I obviously can not judge intellectual level of the author (may be it was intentional), I can definitely say that anyone who thinks there is even a slight point of intelligent plot line are probably not very clever people. This is indeed may sound arrogant but that's the plain truth. Since the very start Genjitsu Shugi Yuusha had logic of a 12-year old and this ep is no different. Not only it had strange Machiavelli explanations like we are not clever enough to understand obvious parallels, other scenes were either ridiculously edgy or cringy af. Oh, and don't forget these retarded harem tropes. But of course it doesn't mean no one should enjoy this series. I personally like this part a bit more than the first. Problems start when "Realist Hero" tries to sound serious or clever but in fact he is just a brat who not entirely stupid only because around him almost everyone is brain dead. Most if not all of his ideas either average or simply obvious/logical but the show portrays them like it's a god's wisdom. Well, it's not like there is a lot of logic in this series anyway, so who cares. |
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| This is getting so good. Souma being a 5head big brain king. His wives comforting him. Very rewarding and exciting episode. Pretty much a talk but still very enjoyable |
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| Damn, tough episode for Souma. And i really liked the fact that he may have thought about the fact that he might become a dictator. That ending, lmao, so that's who will be Souma's new enemy. |
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| I don't want to ever regret thinking "I should have killed them when I had the chance." Good job Kazuya, Batman's stupid ass should take lesson's from you. I REALLY hate the no-killing BS from Batman, because it ALWAYS bites him in the ass, like with Injustice and the ending of Arkham Knight. |
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| Great episode! Liscia felt a bit hurt by Souma's marriage to Aisha but she knew it was for the best. Souma spared the lives of Carla and her father which was nice and he also ordered Carla to kill him if he ever becomes a tyrant/too obsessed with power. He has also killed the first people ever and Liscia and Aisha come to cheer him up to make him forget about it and sit beside him. And CARMINE IS ALIVE?! Looking forward to the next episode! |
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Sayan_Pal said: phantomfandom said: By today's standard, Carla would have the right to kill Souma now because he's already a tyranny, the one that doesn't even realized he has fallen into this category. phantomfandom said: no he is not tyrant, u have to read moreBy today's standard, Carla would have the right to kill Souma now because he's already a tyranny, the one that doesn't even realized he has fallen into this category. Sayan_Pal said: souma is not tyrant, castor not hate him,go and read light novel, u cannot force others to believe u, drop it or change their opinion Dude, you can barely form a comprehensible sentence in proper english. How can you expect others to believe your baseless acusations without even being able to convey a simple message? Read some modern history about actual tryants, like Augusto Pinochet. He made his political opponents "disappear" along with blatant executions and plain torture. Sohma executing his opponents without due process is exactly the same thing Pinochet did to his rivals. I'd recommend you to go out and touch some grass along with getting in touch with real people and learn about geo-politics. But I know that special people that don't even know what being an ignorant means (oh the irony) will not even try to follow this kind of advise. |
| I would've been real pissed if they killed dragon dad but kept the daughter. At least they're both still alive. |
| Sigh when this show is not boring it's predictable.... |
Arylon said: He's kind of right though. By our standards, and as his, he has already become a tyrant. Killing those who oppose him and favoring those who he likes. He's an hypocrite piece of shit. He's also not very smart. Let 's set aside the author's boner for macchiavelli, which is absurd. His mercy to Castor consists in banning him from meeting the people he loves and tricking him into believing his daughter will be killed. Castor has no reason to not hate Souma for the rest of his life. But he killed people who were kissing his ass, and those that didn't wanted death sentence were spared. Those people who he killed were already betraying kingdom for their benefits... previous episode literally had a post credit scene showing that those dead nobles were thinking they will be now controlling kingdom. And Souma had access to entire Amidonia library. @Kimurah As a King he doesn't need to explain, he just showed that if he finds evidence of treason or any evidence of work against his Kingdom he will just kill those people. Basically it's better to be safe than sorry. |
| Manga recommendation: - Spy x Family (Ch.111/? - biweekly) | Sakamoto Days (Ch.198/? - weekly) - MARRIAGETOXIN (Ch.115/? - weekly) | Machi and Oboro (Ch.20/? - biweekly) - Make the Exorcist Fall in Love (Ch.84/? - biweekly) - Monochrome Days (Ch.13/? - biweekly) Anime recommendation: - Deca-Dence (Finished) | Wave, Listen to Me! (Finished) - If My Favorite Pop Idol Made It to the Budokan, I Would Die (Finished) - Diary of Our Days at the Breakwater (Finished) |
MugenNoShirayuki said: Nieznajomy43 said: As a King he doesn't need to explain, he just showed that if he finds evidence of treason or any evidence of work against his Kingdom he will just kill those people. Basically it's better to be safe than sorry. Yes, like a tyrant. Nah, tyrant doesn't care about evidence, law, etc. only about their own reign/power, Souma wouldn't kill those people if he didn't found evidences. |
| Manga recommendation: - Spy x Family (Ch.111/? - biweekly) | Sakamoto Days (Ch.198/? - weekly) - MARRIAGETOXIN (Ch.115/? - weekly) | Machi and Oboro (Ch.20/? - biweekly) - Make the Exorcist Fall in Love (Ch.84/? - biweekly) - Monochrome Days (Ch.13/? - biweekly) Anime recommendation: - Deca-Dence (Finished) | Wave, Listen to Me! (Finished) - If My Favorite Pop Idol Made It to the Budokan, I Would Die (Finished) - Diary of Our Days at the Breakwater (Finished) |
MugenNoShirayuki said: Nieznajomy43 said: Nah, tyrant doesn't care about evidence, law, etc. only about their own reign/power, Souma wouldn't kill those people if he didn't found evidences. I didn't see any due process here. Because he already found evidences and he needed to show other people what can happen if they will try any form of treason against kingdom. This is not different than (faked) death of Carmine. And if Castor also had connections to Amidonia he would also be executed. That's how law work there. Also capital punishment in Japan is a legal penalty. It is applied in practice only for aggravated murder, although certain crimes against the state, such as treason, are also punishable by death. |
| Manga recommendation: - Spy x Family (Ch.111/? - biweekly) | Sakamoto Days (Ch.198/? - weekly) - MARRIAGETOXIN (Ch.115/? - weekly) | Machi and Oboro (Ch.20/? - biweekly) - Make the Exorcist Fall in Love (Ch.84/? - biweekly) - Monochrome Days (Ch.13/? - biweekly) Anime recommendation: - Deca-Dence (Finished) | Wave, Listen to Me! (Finished) - If My Favorite Pop Idol Made It to the Budokan, I Would Die (Finished) - Diary of Our Days at the Breakwater (Finished) |
MugenNoShirayuki said: Nieznajomy43 said: Because he already found evidences and he needed to show other people what can happen if they will try any form of treason against kingdom. This is not different than (faked) death of Carmine. And if Castor also had connections to Amidonia he would also be executed. That's how law work there. Also capital punishment in Japan is a legal penalty. It is applied in practice only for aggravated murder, although certain crimes against the state, such as treason, are also punishable by death. Nieznajomy43 said: Because he already found evidences and he needed to show other people what can happen if they will try any form of treason against kingdom. This is not different than (faked) death of Carmine. And if Castor also had connections to Amidonia he would also be executed. That's how law work there. Also capital punishment in Japan is a legal penalty. It is applied in practice only for aggravated murder, although certain crimes against the state, such as treason, are also punishable by death. Punishing treason by death. While having no legal method for people to air their grievances against the king and hold him accountable. Sounds like tyranny to me. Wait what? There are multiple people who do this, people close to him (like Liscia, Hakuya and Juna)... his advisors and officials... also people like Excel Walter with authority over army... then we have Carla and (not) Carmine who would kill him if he bacame evil... and in worst case scenario Maria Euphoria with her Gran Chaos Empire. Overall he is crating place in which he will not be surrounded by "Yes-mans". And as for now, no one made official complaint so we don't know how procedures look like. Currently nobility can ask for audience with the king. As for legal institution... we talking about Middle Ages level era... there will be nothing like that and the closest to this turned out to be in 80% corrupted. If Souma would want to create something like that he would need to make universal schools and universities, which I doubt would be finished in his lifetime or maybe in 20~40 years (depends on educational systems in other countries). Now when I think about this Souma could in the end of story introduce democracy. |
| Manga recommendation: - Spy x Family (Ch.111/? - biweekly) | Sakamoto Days (Ch.198/? - weekly) - MARRIAGETOXIN (Ch.115/? - weekly) | Machi and Oboro (Ch.20/? - biweekly) - Make the Exorcist Fall in Love (Ch.84/? - biweekly) - Monochrome Days (Ch.13/? - biweekly) Anime recommendation: - Deca-Dence (Finished) | Wave, Listen to Me! (Finished) - If My Favorite Pop Idol Made It to the Budokan, I Would Die (Finished) - Diary of Our Days at the Breakwater (Finished) |
MugenNoShirayuki said: I'm not talking about yes-men, I'm talking about the people who don't work for him. Where is the voice of the people in all this. My question is why isn't he doing any of that NOW. As someone who grew up in our world, Souma knows full well all the inherent problems a monarchy possesses, and yet does nothing to mitigate them. It looks to me like he's a lot more interested in consolidating his power than he is about the actual wellbeing and equity of his subjects. And that's because Machiavelli doesn't care about any of that. The Prince is an instruction manual for a tyrant seeking to gain, consolidate, and maintain power, it's not something that a person from the modern era should seek to emulate. He dresses it up but in the end he's no different from any other tyrannical monarchy. Sorry but could you stop multi-quoting, this is just making posts unnecessary longer. ngl now I get it why Genkoku (Realist Hero) have so much Machiavelli considering how many people noted realism and pragmatist of The Prince and Machiavelli. So having him in this story make 100% sense. Also The Prince have even a chapter focused about avoiding flatterers and having "a select group of wise counselors to advise him truthfully on matters all the time." And interestingly, The Prince also have satirical and "deceptive" interpretation which author most likely encounter if he was doing research on The Prince and Machiavelli. Even more The Prince is in favor of republicanism considering it prefer common people over nobility. And The Prince stated that if said prince is focusing on being feared ruler, said prince should never go as far to the point of changing fear into hatred. And like I said earlier currently there is no good foundations to make proper and effective legal institutions. And still dealing with Demons and making kingdom stronger have bigger priority. |
| Manga recommendation: - Spy x Family (Ch.111/? - biweekly) | Sakamoto Days (Ch.198/? - weekly) - MARRIAGETOXIN (Ch.115/? - weekly) | Machi and Oboro (Ch.20/? - biweekly) - Make the Exorcist Fall in Love (Ch.84/? - biweekly) - Monochrome Days (Ch.13/? - biweekly) Anime recommendation: - Deca-Dence (Finished) | Wave, Listen to Me! (Finished) - If My Favorite Pop Idol Made It to the Budokan, I Would Die (Finished) - Diary of Our Days at the Breakwater (Finished) |
cristinacke28 said: nice to see Carmine back, thou i heard from s1 he was going to live damn, low budget or crappy deadlines? Show is trash but there is nothing wrong with your screencap |
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| There is reason why things were done more brutally in past. There were no modern police with CCTV, fingerprint analysis or educated detectives etc. Basically societies were hold up together by fear of leaders and fear of law. Sometimes innocents were killed in name of law & order. We in modern age have hard time to understand this but that time it is best what civilization could do to keep things running. At that time it was justified just like in Ancient Roman times slaves were justified by basically everyone. Moral back then reflected times and needs of society. That what isekais stories where modern people end up in some fantasy medieval world don't get. They think that they can change world and educate world with modern morals. That is not how world really works. For example there was time when Roman Republic tried to reduce using slave so to reduce unemployment but just ended in disaster. Rome was too big and too dependable for slaves and it was build to function with slaves. Basically nobody wanted to end slavery because basically those Ancient kingdoms/empires wouldn't exists without slavery. Also basically moral attitude toward using slave was not seen as wrong thing to do. What I'm trying to say if you want to rule a medieval kingdom then you have play by medieval playbook or you end up dead ruler. One just can't import modern values to world like that. It is impossible no matter what you think. That is what people here don't seem to get. Most here think with modern values & morals you can't use them in world like that. People like to read fantasy where hero is some goody shoe and never do dark things but reality of ruleship is that one has to do awful things to rule country like that correctly. That is why this story is slated "Realistic Hero". |
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DKDiabloLicht said: Honestly can't answer this question without giving a spoiler but it will probably explained in a future episode.Aversa said: Honestly one part of the novel they did adapt well, i almost thought they would skip this but it was a good thing they didn't since it explains a lot. Well some corrupt nobles out of the way is always a good thing for the country and hopefully it sends a warning to the other nobles as well. Lets hope Souma won't have to repeat these actions. Anyway the girls being worried like that was nice of them. was that the first time they "Helped him forget" or did they legit just go to bed and their first time happens later? Souma is a savage politically but he definitely seems like he'd puss out with two virgins wanting to bang(at least for the first time). lol is he a Virgin? |
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