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Jan 27, 2022 5:14 PM
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Visual novel studio Key announced a television anime adaptation of its multimedia franchise Prima Doll on Thursday. The company also opened an official website, revealing the main cast, staff, teaser visual (pictured), and teaser promotional video. The anime is scheduled to premiere in 2022. Synopsis Kuronekotei—a cafe located in the imperial capital's fifth ward. Girls who work there are autonomous mechanical dolls, also known as automata. They were originally created as weapons for the great war that ended only a few years ago. Now, they are now looking for new roles in a peaceful world. Cast Haizakura: Azumi Waki (Kuma Kuma Kuma Bear) Karasuba: Tomori Kusunoki (Love Live! Nijigasaki Gakuen School Idol Doukoukai) Gekka: Miyu Tomita (Sentouin, Hakenshimasu!) Houkiboshi: Yuki Nakashima (BanG Dream! 2nd Season) Retzel: Akari Kitou (Machikado Mazoku) Staff Director: Tenshou (Azur Lane) Series Composition, Script: Touya Okano (Kaginado), Kai (Rewrite) Original Character Design: Na-Ga (Charlotte), Fuzichoco (Kenja no Deshi wo Nanoru Kenja), Yui Hara (Kiniro Mosaic), En Morikura (Neko ga Kureta Marui Shiawase), lack (Yobidasareta Satsurikusha light novel) Character Design, Chief Animation Director: Akane Yano (Choujin Koukousei-tachi wa Isekai demo Yoyuu de Ikinuku you desu!) Studio: Bibury Animation Studios Teaser PV Official site: https://primadoll.jp/ Official Twitter: @primadoll_pr Source: Comic Natalie Prima Doll on MAL |
VindstotMar 27, 2022 12:41 AM
Jan 27, 2022 5:26 PM
#2
characters definitely look like they'd belong in some gacha, instead of a VN. And hey, more Key stuff to watch |
Jan 27, 2022 5:32 PM
#3
I hope they don't fall into the trap of Sunrise when they were forced to switch almost completely to the Love Live assembly line due to their desire for money. They even got a cast from Bushi's girls. Boazanian said: characters definitely look like they'd belong in some gacha, instead of a VN. And hey, more Key stuff to watch Because this project was originally announced as an attempt to enter the mobile games market. I even remember some criticizing this, fearing that Key would no longer write serious and deep VNs, instead concentrating on waifu bait. The only sad thing is that now it was easier for them to get money for this than for the adaptation of Summer Pockets. |
Jan 27, 2022 5:35 PM
#4
well this is ridiculously insane timing considering @FMmatron and I were JUST talking about KEY needing to make more tearjerkers lmao the premise sounds promising and what a GORGEOUS PV!! gonna put this on PTW as soon as MAL DB approves of it tho i will continue to be cautious |
Jan 27, 2022 5:38 PM
#5
Fario-P said: well this is ridiculously insane timing considering @FMmatron and I were JUST talking about KEY needing to make more tearjerkers lmao the premise sounds promising and what a GORGEOUS PV!! gonna put this on PTW as soon as MAL DB approves of it tho i will continue to be cautious They already announced the anime on SP. How much it will follow their style, I don't know, so far it just looks like a slightly darker moe all-female than usual. |
Jan 27, 2022 5:44 PM
#6
RobertBobert said: Boazanian said: characters definitely look like they'd belong in some gacha, instead of a VN. And hey, more Key stuff to watch Because this project was originally announced as an attempt to enter the mobile games market. I even remember some criticizing this, fearing that Key would no longer write serious and deep VNs, instead concentrating on waifu bait. The only sad thing is that now it was easier for them to get money for this than for the adaptation of Summer Pockets. they following where the money is, hm. I reckon VNs don't bring the same steam as they did, say, 10 years ago. Goes to show how ppl may prefer the more accessible, baity gachas with some story than the same sort of quality, or better, seen in a VN but at an upfront cost |
Jan 27, 2022 5:48 PM
#7
Boazanian said: RobertBobert said: Boazanian said: characters definitely look like they'd belong in some gacha, instead of a VN. And hey, more Key stuff to watch Because this project was originally announced as an attempt to enter the mobile games market. I even remember some criticizing this, fearing that Key would no longer write serious and deep VNs, instead concentrating on waifu bait. The only sad thing is that now it was easier for them to get money for this than for the adaptation of Summer Pockets. they following where the money is, hm. I reckon VNs don't bring the same steam as they did, say, 10 years ago. Goes to show how ppl may prefer the more accessible, baity gachas with some story than the same sort of quality, or better, seen in a VN but at an upfront cost Well, they quite openly explained it by saying that at least a "pure" VN business is not viable at this time. I don't want to be a naive fanboy, so I just hope this doesn't become their only job, even though I might very well enjoy the show. Or a game, depending on how it will look in the end. |
Jan 27, 2022 6:34 PM
#8
Fario-P said: well this is ridiculously insane timing considering @FMmatron and I were JUST talking about KEY needing to make more tearjerkers lmao the premise sounds promising and what a GORGEOUS PV!! gonna put this on PTW as soon as MAL DB approves of it tho i will continue to be cautious Ok, wtf is going on? Feels like I'm having a déjà vu², lmao. I vaguely remember that this already happened. Weren't we having a chat about Angel Beats and Key? Shortly after we heard the news that Kamisama ni Natta Hi was already underway. Another time we were talking about pirate anime and baam, Fena got announced. This is getting spooky. |
One Piece episode 914 & 915 & 1027 were a mistake and 957 brought the salvation - FMmatron |
Jan 27, 2022 7:16 PM
#9
Looks promising! Gotta put it in ptw. Is it in mal database yet? |
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Jan 27, 2022 7:58 PM
#10
Jan 27, 2022 9:26 PM
#11
FMmatron said: yeah ikr?!?! and that's right, that happened last time with pirate anime daaaamn!Fario-P said: well this is ridiculously insane timing considering @FMmatron and I were JUST talking about KEY needing to make more tearjerkers lmao the premise sounds promising and what a GORGEOUS PV!! gonna put this on PTW as soon as MAL DB approves of it tho i will continue to be cautious Ok, wtf is going on? Feels like I'm having a déjà vu², lmao. I vaguely remember that this already happened. Weren't we having a chat about Angel Beats and Key? Shortly after we heard the news that Kamisama ni Natta Hi was already underway. Another time we were talking about pirate anime and baam, Fena got announced. This is getting spooky. SHIT CAN I SPREAD THE GOSPEL OF KITCHEN PRINCESS TO YOU REAL QUICK THEN?? |
Jan 27, 2022 11:19 PM
#13
Oh god I am excited for this, I guess it's the first time when a number of key based projects have been announced and released in such a short time period. Anyways looking forward to this and the summer pockets project, hope they can pull this off KyoAni style as I want that asthetic in here. |
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Jan 27, 2022 11:22 PM
#14
RobertBobert said: I even remember some criticizing this, fearing that Key would no longer write serious and deep VNs, instead concentrating on waifu bait. The only sad thing is that now it was easier for them to get money for this than for the adaptation of Summer Pockets. It really is disappointing. Seeing how easy it was for them to greenlit an anime for something as small as Prima Doll yet having a hard time finding people to do Little Busters, Rewrite, and seemingly Summer Pockets. I know the next visual novel has been announced to be in development, but it really does feel like they're just putting out a bunch of waifu-bait material because that's the only way they're getting revenue. The problem with Key in my opinion, is that they don't take advantage of the IPs that they already have so they have to resort to making many new IPs instead and bet on them to have some financial backing. Look at Type-Moon. They're literally banking in on 3 main titles and all the sequels/spin-offs/prequels/etc. from those titles. They're taking so many unique approaches to building the lore and creating stories for each of their IPs to thrive which keeps the fandom alive and lets it grow. Key on the other hand drops a story, maybe drops an expansion pack or fan disc later, maybe drops a heroine spin-off game later, but then they never go back to those works to fully do anything more. The fandom moves on and only a select few stay for Key's next work. And yes, I know that Type-Moon works are vastly different and allow for lore to be created more easily than Key works, but it's about taking advantage of the IP that's the main point. Key's just very untimely and it feels like when they figure out the right approach, they're 5-10 years too late so it's not as impactful. All of their titles could've easily been milked more to become bigger IPs and help Key financially. Planetarian's probably the only title they have that they've fully milked. Air, Clannad and Rewrite specifically though could've been milked the most. Rewrite could've easily been Key's Fate-equivalent. It's just unfortunate and if the Summer Pockets anime doesn't do well, I feel like they're not going to prioritize their mainstream visual novels anymore. I guess it's fine in a sense because Maeda did say that the visual novel industry is dying, but at the same time, Key's best stories are from their visual novels, so until they can do a quality story in a different medium with good reception and success, I just don't feel like it'll be a wise choice from a quality-standpoint to not prioritize their mainstream visual novels. |
Jan 27, 2022 11:24 PM
#15
Script -> no Jun Maeda Good. Hopefully the anime will have a decent pacing for once. I'm cautiously optimistic. |
Jan 27, 2022 11:31 PM
#16
Kind of a new approach from Key and looks very interesting as well. Casts are great, especially with Akarin and Tomoriru, and Lisacchi's seiyuu. |
何それ?意味分かんない |
Jan 28, 2022 12:28 AM
#17
RobertBobert said: Because this project was originally announced as an attempt to enter the mobile games market. I even remember some criticizing this, fearing that Key would no longer write serious and deep VNs, instead concentrating on waifu bait. The only sad thing is that now it was easier for them to get money for this than for the adaptation of Summer Pockets. Tbh, I think this the most likely path forward for Key. And I don't think it's such a bad thing. F2P players like me can enjoy the story without paying a dime. People who like to sacrifice their money for their waifu will do it. And if it's successful, Key will make a lot of money. It's a win-win! I agree though that it can be annoying for pure VN players. They have to actually play the RPG/rhythm game/puzzle game to get through the story. From my limited experience with gacha games (BanG Dream, Project Sekai, Sdorica, Arknights), I can say that the story (the main plot at least) are of high quality. I might be one of the few people who enjoy gacha games for their story. And btw, this is not the only mobile game that Key have announced, right? There's also Heaven Burns Red. The story and the characters look more badass on that one. |
Jan 28, 2022 12:33 AM
#18
Probably another one cour trainwreck by Key. They aren’t as good anymore. I’m putting all the last grains of hope onto the SamaPoke adaptation |
Jan 28, 2022 12:37 AM
#19
CGDCT version of violetto? |
Truth is absolute but human perception of truth is always relative. |
Jan 28, 2022 12:46 AM
#20
A Key project without Jun Maeda is one I have very little interest in, especially after the disaster that was the Rewrite anime. And Bibury being the studio makes me even less likely to watch it cos they seem incapable of maintaining even half-decent production values for a full cour. |
Jan 28, 2022 1:10 AM
#21
Thai777 said: Script -> no Jun Maeda Good. Hopefully the anime will have a decent pacing for once. I'm cautiously optimistic. Good? Look at the Director |
Jan 28, 2022 3:23 AM
#22
Oh, give it a rest already, not more gacha tripe. |
Well I for one already loved Lain. |
Jan 28, 2022 4:14 AM
#23
Look who's the director lol Did they forget about that rewrite disaster? |
Jan 28, 2022 4:19 AM
#24
Thai777 said: Script -> no Jun Maeda Good. Hopefully the anime will have a decent pacing for once. I'm cautiously optimistic. People rejoicing at the absence of Jun in Key is like rejoicing that they didn’t put sausage in your hot dog FlyingEgg said: RobertBobert said: Because this project was originally announced as an attempt to enter the mobile games market. I even remember some criticizing this, fearing that Key would no longer write serious and deep VNs, instead concentrating on waifu bait. The only sad thing is that now it was easier for them to get money for this than for the adaptation of Summer Pockets. Tbh, I think this the most likely path forward for Key. And I don't think it's such a bad thing. F2P players like me can enjoy the story without paying a dime. People who like to sacrifice their money for their waifu will do it. And if it's successful, Key will make a lot of money. It's a win-win! I agree though that it can be annoying for pure VN players. They have to actually play the RPG/rhythm game/puzzle game to get through the story. From my limited experience with gacha games (BanG Dream, Project Sekai, Sdorica, Arknights), I can say that the story (the main plot at least) are of high quality. I might be one of the few people who enjoy gacha games for their story. And btw, this is not the only mobile game that Key have announced, right? There's also Heaven Burns Red. The story and the characters look more badass on that one. These games have a good plot for a gacha game, but this is not the level of a full-fledged VN, especially Key's VN. Not to mention that the audience of the company is quite different from the audience of these games. Totoshinoz said: RobertBobert said: I even remember some criticizing this, fearing that Key would no longer write serious and deep VNs, instead concentrating on waifu bait. The only sad thing is that now it was easier for them to get money for this than for the adaptation of Summer Pockets. It really is disappointing. Seeing how easy it was for them to greenlit an anime for something as small as Prima Doll yet having a hard time finding people to do Little Busters, Rewrite, and seemingly Summer Pockets. I know the next visual novel has been announced to be in development, but it really does feel like they're just putting out a bunch of waifu-bait material because that's the only way they're getting revenue. The problem with Key in my opinion, is that they don't take advantage of the IPs that they already have so they have to resort to making many new IPs instead and bet on them to have some financial backing. Look at Type-Moon. They're literally banking in on 3 main titles and all the sequels/spin-offs/prequels/etc. from those titles. They're taking so many unique approaches to building the lore and creating stories for each of their IPs to thrive which keeps the fandom alive and lets it grow. Key on the other hand drops a story, maybe drops an expansion pack or fan disc later, maybe drops a heroine spin-off game later, but then they never go back to those works to fully do anything more. The fandom moves on and only a select few stay for Key's next work. And yes, I know that Type-Moon works are vastly different and allow for lore to be created more easily than Key works, but it's about taking advantage of the IP that's the main point. Key's just very untimely and it feels like when they figure out the right approach, they're 5-10 years too late so it's not as impactful. All of their titles could've easily been milked more to become bigger IPs and help Key financially. Planetarian's probably the only title they have that they've fully milked. Air, Clannad and Rewrite specifically though could've been milked the most. Rewrite could've easily been Key's Fate-equivalent. It's just unfortunate and if the Summer Pockets anime doesn't do well, I feel like they're not going to prioritize their mainstream visual novels anymore. I guess it's fine in a sense because Maeda did say that the visual novel industry is dying, but at the same time, Key's best stories are from their visual novels, so until they can do a quality story in a different medium with good reception and success, I just don't feel like it'll be a wise choice from a quality-standpoint to not prioritize their mainstream visual novels. Yeah, that's what I'm talking about. As far back as 3-4 years ago, several writers said that when they pitched ideas for original shows or new LNs, the producers often told them "hey, why try to talk about something complicated, do something interesting with waifu or hasubendo! |
Jan 28, 2022 5:14 AM
#25
RobertBobert said: Because this project was originally announced as an attempt to enter the mobile games market. This is false, the mobile project was a different project entirely called Heaven Burns Red, and that project is also still going to be released, likely with its own anime down the line once the game is out. Prima Doll is an entirely separate Key work, it's a multi-media project. A director alone does not ruin an anime, the director of the Rewrite anime also directed the OPs for the VN as well as Kiniro Mosiac, which is a very good SOL show. Prima Doll is a SOL show, so it doesn't need some excelsior action shots to be good, rather it just needs to capture character interaction, world, and expression. RobertBobert said: People rejoicing at the absence of Jun in Key is like rejoicing that they didn’t put sausage in your hot dog As much as I love Maeda, he is far from the only part of Key. Every early VN does not just have Maeda, writers like Kai and Okano Touya also had a lot of say in projects such as AIR and Clannad. In fact, do not forget Summer Pockets was not written by Maeda whatsoever, that was written entirely by Kai. This anime is being worked on by bot Kai and Okano Touya, and I can say from having read the webnovel, it's pretty good. Don't be so pessmistic, and also double check your facts. There's a bit of incorrect information being spread here. |
ManpigJan 28, 2022 5:19 AM
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Jan 28, 2022 5:21 AM
#26
Manpig said: [quote=RobertBobert message=65574315Because this project was originally announced as an attempt to enter the mobile games market. This is false, the mobile project was a different project entirely called Heaven Burns Red, and that project is also still going to be released, likely with its own anime down the line once the game is out. Prima Doll is an entirely separate Key work, it's a multi-media project. A director alone does not ruin an anime, the director of the Rewrite anime also directed the OPs for the VN as well as Kiniro Mosiac, which is a very good SOL show. Prima Doll is a SOL show, so it doesn't need some excelsior action shots to be good, rather it just needs to capture character interaction, world, and expression. RobertBobert said: People rejoicing at the absence of Jun in Key is like rejoicing that they didn’t put sausage in your hot dog As much as I love Maeda, he is far from the only part of Key. Every early VN does not just have Maeda, writers like Kai and Okano Touya also had a lot of say in projects such as AIR and Clannad. In fact, do not forget Summer Pockets was not written by Maeda whatsoever, that was written entirely by Kai. This anime is being worked on by bot Kai and Okano Touya, and I can say from having read the webnovel, it's pretty good. Don't be so pessmistic, and also double check your facts. There's a bit of incorrect information being spread here. [/quote] The fact that this is a multimedia project does not negate the fact that its game part is intended for mobile platforms and that this is not the traditional direction of Key. And yes, due to the fact that that project has not yet been released, this will literally be their first project of this kind. Before you say fact check, first read my comment carefully and find where I said anything about only Maeda creating content in Key. He is still one of the founders and the main author of most of their best stuff, so it's really very strange and even somewhat insulting for me as a fan of the brand to be happy about the Key project without Maeda. Also, I'm happy for you if you're "not so pessimistic" and you like the content, but I have a different opinion. |
Jan 28, 2022 5:32 AM
#27
The fact that this is from Key is all the motivation I need to give this a shot....Normally I'd pass on something like this but I gotta check it out now just to see if its actually going to be something special |
Jan 28, 2022 5:43 AM
#28
RobertBobert said: The fact that this is a multimedia project does not negate the fact that its game part is intended for mobile platforms and that this is not the traditional direction of Key. And yes, due to the fact that that project has not yet been released, this will literally be their first project of this kind. Before you say fact check, first read my comment carefully and find where I said anything about only Maeda creating content in Key. He is still one of the founders and the main author of most of their best stuff, so it's really very strange and even somewhat insulting for me as a fan of the brand to be happy about the Key project without Maeda. Also, I'm happy for you if you're "not so pessimistic" and you like the content, but I have a different opinion. But that's the thing, there *isn't* a game, this was never a game. It's a webnovel and songs which is getting an anime, this multi-media project doesn't involve a mobile game in any way, you've confused two entirely different projects for each other. The thing is Maeda is very burnt out on media, if you've read his only recent project, Nekogari, you can see that, he wants a break and I think its in his best interest to gve that to him. Key has been fine without Maeda since Summer Pockets, I won't say his touch isn't special, but it really isn't as be-all-end-all as most people believe. Trust me, I've seen literally every Key work, including the works before Key like ONE ~Kagayaku Kisetsu E~, Maeda is important, but so is Kai, Touya, and every other classic writer Key has been making banger after banger ever since, I've read Prima Doll's source and it's pretty solid. Not to meiton, Summer Pockets, Loopers, and Lunaria all have no influence from Maeda, yet they're all amazing. Summer Pockets and Lunaria feel like some of the most classic Key works without having Maeda on the project. It feels like you're going off what you think instead of actually reading what I'm saying or keeping up with the company. |
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Jan 28, 2022 5:49 AM
#29
Manpig said: RobertBobert said: The fact that this is a multimedia project does not negate the fact that its game part is intended for mobile platforms and that this is not the traditional direction of Key. And yes, due to the fact that that project has not yet been released, this will literally be their first project of this kind. Before you say fact check, first read my comment carefully and find where I said anything about only Maeda creating content in Key. He is still one of the founders and the main author of most of their best stuff, so it's really very strange and even somewhat insulting for me as a fan of the brand to be happy about the Key project without Maeda. Also, I'm happy for you if you're "not so pessimistic" and you like the content, but I have a different opinion. But that's the thing, there *isn't* a game, this was never a game. It's a webnovel and songs which is getting an anime, this multi-media project doesn't involve a mobile game in any way, you've confused two entirely different projects for each other. The thing is Maeda is very burnt out on media, if you've read his only recent project, Nekogari, you can see that, he wants a break and I think its in his best interest to gve that to him. Key has been fine without Maeda since Summer Pockets, I won't say his touch isn't special, but it really isn't as be-all-end-all as most people believe. Trust me, I've seen literally every Key work, including the works before Key like ONE ~Kagayaku Kisetsu E~, Maeda is important, but so is Kai, Touya, and every other classic writer Key has been making banger after banger ever since, I've read Prima Doll's source and it's pretty solid. Not to meiton, Summer Pockets, Loopers, and Lunaria all have no influence from Maeda, yet they're all amazing. Summer Pockets and Lunaria feel like some of the most classic Key works without having Maeda on the project. It feels like you're going off what you think instead of actually reading what I'm saying or keeping up with the company. I'll say it again, it's good for you if you like it. But I still would like to see the classic Key and content that looks like its best author. I have no desire to start an argument with fanboys who are ready to attack even other loyal brand fans if their opinion is not as idealistic as theirs. |
Jan 28, 2022 5:56 AM
#30
RobertBobert said: Manpig said: RobertBobert said: The fact that this is a multimedia project does not negate the fact that its game part is intended for mobile platforms and that this is not the traditional direction of Key. And yes, due to the fact that that project has not yet been released, this will literally be their first project of this kind. Before you say fact check, first read my comment carefully and find where I said anything about only Maeda creating content in Key. He is still one of the founders and the main author of most of their best stuff, so it's really very strange and even somewhat insulting for me as a fan of the brand to be happy about the Key project without Maeda. Also, I'm happy for you if you're "not so pessimistic" and you like the content, but I have a different opinion. But that's the thing, there *isn't* a game, this was never a game. It's a webnovel and songs which is getting an anime, this multi-media project doesn't involve a mobile game in any way, you've confused two entirely different projects for each other. The thing is Maeda is very burnt out on media, if you've read his only recent project, Nekogari, you can see that, he wants a break and I think its in his best interest to gve that to him. Key has been fine without Maeda since Summer Pockets, I won't say his touch isn't special, but it really isn't as be-all-end-all as most people believe. Trust me, I've seen literally every Key work, including the works before Key like ONE ~Kagayaku Kisetsu E~, Maeda is important, but so is Kai, Touya, and every other classic writer Key has been making banger after banger ever since, I've read Prima Doll's source and it's pretty solid. Not to meiton, Summer Pockets, Loopers, and Lunaria all have no influence from Maeda, yet they're all amazing. Summer Pockets and Lunaria feel like some of the most classic Key works without having Maeda on the project. It feels like you're going off what you think instead of actually reading what I'm saying or keeping up with the company. I'll say it again, it's good for you if you like it. But I still would like to see the classic Key and content that looks like its best author. I have no desire to start an argument with fanboys who are ready to attack even other loyal brand fans if their opinion is not as idealistic as theirs. This wasn't an attack, I'm trying to prevent the spread of misinformation. You haven't responded to or even highlighted any parts where I tried to correct that, all I wanted to do is clarify things. If trying to correct misinformation is an attack on an opinion, then I'm the one at a loss for words here. There is a lot of hope for this project, and its visible when you look at what its got to offer. Its fine if you like classic works and want to see Maeda again, but that and this are different things |
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Jan 28, 2022 6:02 AM
#31
Manpig said: RobertBobert said: Manpig said: RobertBobert said: The fact that this is a multimedia project does not negate the fact that its game part is intended for mobile platforms and that this is not the traditional direction of Key. And yes, due to the fact that that project has not yet been released, this will literally be their first project of this kind. Before you say fact check, first read my comment carefully and find where I said anything about only Maeda creating content in Key. He is still one of the founders and the main author of most of their best stuff, so it's really very strange and even somewhat insulting for me as a fan of the brand to be happy about the Key project without Maeda. Also, I'm happy for you if you're "not so pessimistic" and you like the content, but I have a different opinion. But that's the thing, there *isn't* a game, this was never a game. It's a webnovel and songs which is getting an anime, this multi-media project doesn't involve a mobile game in any way, you've confused two entirely different projects for each other. The thing is Maeda is very burnt out on media, if you've read his only recent project, Nekogari, you can see that, he wants a break and I think its in his best interest to gve that to him. Key has been fine without Maeda since Summer Pockets, I won't say his touch isn't special, but it really isn't as be-all-end-all as most people believe. Trust me, I've seen literally every Key work, including the works before Key like ONE ~Kagayaku Kisetsu E~, Maeda is important, but so is Kai, Touya, and every other classic writer Key has been making banger after banger ever since, I've read Prima Doll's source and it's pretty solid. Not to meiton, Summer Pockets, Loopers, and Lunaria all have no influence from Maeda, yet they're all amazing. Summer Pockets and Lunaria feel like some of the most classic Key works without having Maeda on the project. It feels like you're going off what you think instead of actually reading what I'm saying or keeping up with the company. I'll say it again, it's good for you if you like it. But I still would like to see the classic Key and content that looks like its best author. I have no desire to start an argument with fanboys who are ready to attack even other loyal brand fans if their opinion is not as idealistic as theirs. This wasn't an attack, I'm trying to prevent the spread of misinformation. You haven't responded to or even highlighted any parts where I tried to correct that, all I wanted to do is clarify things. If trying to correct misinformation is an attack on an opinion, then I'm the one at a loss for words here. There is a lot of hope for this project, and its visible when you look at what its got to offer. Its fine if you like classic works and want to see Maeda again, but that and this are different things When you literally mean "it was good, how can you not care about it?!" and ambiguously trying to shame me for being pessimistic about post-Jun works, this is an attack. This is especially noticeable at the point where you lose more and more sense of the difference between matters of taste and "misinformation", starting to actually insist that I can't appreciate Jun as Kei's heart just because you personally think other authors are also good. So, I will repeat once again. If you feel an orgasm from literally everything that Key does, then this is your business. I prefer more classic content. |
Jan 28, 2022 6:09 AM
#32
RobertBobert said: Manpig said: RobertBobert said: Manpig said: RobertBobert said: The fact that this is a multimedia project does not negate the fact that its game part is intended for mobile platforms and that this is not the traditional direction of Key. And yes, due to the fact that that project has not yet been released, this will literally be their first project of this kind. Before you say fact check, first read my comment carefully and find where I said anything about only Maeda creating content in Key. He is still one of the founders and the main author of most of their best stuff, so it's really very strange and even somewhat insulting for me as a fan of the brand to be happy about the Key project without Maeda. Also, I'm happy for you if you're "not so pessimistic" and you like the content, but I have a different opinion. But that's the thing, there *isn't* a game, this was never a game. It's a webnovel and songs which is getting an anime, this multi-media project doesn't involve a mobile game in any way, you've confused two entirely different projects for each other. The thing is Maeda is very burnt out on media, if you've read his only recent project, Nekogari, you can see that, he wants a break and I think its in his best interest to gve that to him. Key has been fine without Maeda since Summer Pockets, I won't say his touch isn't special, but it really isn't as be-all-end-all as most people believe. Trust me, I've seen literally every Key work, including the works before Key like ONE ~Kagayaku Kisetsu E~, Maeda is important, but so is Kai, Touya, and every other classic writer Key has been making banger after banger ever since, I've read Prima Doll's source and it's pretty solid. Not to meiton, Summer Pockets, Loopers, and Lunaria all have no influence from Maeda, yet they're all amazing. Summer Pockets and Lunaria feel like some of the most classic Key works without having Maeda on the project. It feels like you're going off what you think instead of actually reading what I'm saying or keeping up with the company. I'll say it again, it's good for you if you like it. But I still would like to see the classic Key and content that looks like its best author. I have no desire to start an argument with fanboys who are ready to attack even other loyal brand fans if their opinion is not as idealistic as theirs. This wasn't an attack, I'm trying to prevent the spread of misinformation. You haven't responded to or even highlighted any parts where I tried to correct that, all I wanted to do is clarify things. If trying to correct misinformation is an attack on an opinion, then I'm the one at a loss for words here. There is a lot of hope for this project, and its visible when you look at what its got to offer. Its fine if you like classic works and want to see Maeda again, but that and this are different things When you literally mean "it was good, how can you not care about it?!" and ambiguously trying to shame me for being pessimistic about post-Jun works, this is an attack. This is especially noticeable at the point where you lose more and more sense of the difference between matters of taste and "misinformation", starting to actually insist that I can't appreciate Jun as Kei's heart just because you personally think other authors are also good. So, I will repeat once again. If you feel an orgasm from literally everything that Key does, then this is your business. I prefer more classic content. That wasn't my intention and never was, all I'm saying is that Maeda needs a break, and all writers of the franchise are important and can do amazing things. If you don't care about it, that's fine, power to you, but if that's the case, do that knowing what the project actually is. I'm not saying Key is perfect, they have made flunks, but to say something like one man dictates the quality of an entire company, and that they are stooping so low as to make low quality stories for money isn't really true. It is not a mobile game done for the sake of waifuism and quick bucks, this is a full project with love and vision, and it is still done by writers who have worked on AIR, Clannad, and Summer Pockets, all which have had just as much of an influence. Whether or not you care about it is up to you, but know what it is first. |
Soul: Blue Status: Inactive |
Jan 28, 2022 6:14 AM
#33
I might watch this. If there are going to be females only. I prefer cute little girls in my anime =)=) Same studio and director that made Azur Lane. I like that anime. Hopefully this will also have strong Yuri vibes. And If I am really lucky maybe even some lesbian kissing! I sure as hell hope so,,,,YEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEES |
Jan 28, 2022 6:16 AM
#34
Manpig said: So what you're saying is that this anime is based on a web novel and NOT a mobile gameRobertBobert said: The fact that this is a multimedia project does not negate the fact that its game part is intended for mobile platforms and that this is not the traditional direction of Key. And yes, due to the fact that that project has not yet been released, this will literally be their first project of this kind. Before you say fact check, first read my comment carefully and find where I said anything about only Maeda creating content in Key. He is still one of the founders and the main author of most of their best stuff, so it's really very strange and even somewhat insulting for me as a fan of the brand to be happy about the Key project without Maeda. Also, I'm happy for you if you're "not so pessimistic" and you like the content, but I have a different opinion. But that's the thing, there *isn't* a game, this was never a game. It's a webnovel and songs which is getting an anime, this multi-media project doesn't involve a mobile game in any way, you've confused two entirely different projects for each other. The thing is Maeda is very burnt out on media, if you've read his only recent project, Nekogari, you can see that, he wants a break and I think its in his best interest to gve that to him. Key has been fine without Maeda since Summer Pockets, I won't say his touch isn't special, but it really isn't as be-all-end-all as most people believe. Trust me, I've seen literally every Key work, including the works before Key like ONE ~Kagayaku Kisetsu E~, Maeda is important, but so is Kai, Touya, and every other classic writer Key has been making banger after banger ever since, I've read Prima Doll's source and it's pretty solid. Not to meiton, Summer Pockets, Loopers, and Lunaria all have no influence from Maeda, yet they're all amazing. Summer Pockets and Lunaria feel like some of the most classic Key works without having Maeda on the project. It feels like you're going off what you think instead of actually reading what I'm saying or keeping up with the company. |
Jan 28, 2022 6:18 AM
#35
Manpig said: RobertBobert said: Manpig said: RobertBobert said: Manpig said: RobertBobert said: The fact that this is a multimedia project does not negate the fact that its game part is intended for mobile platforms and that this is not the traditional direction of Key. And yes, due to the fact that that project has not yet been released, this will literally be their first project of this kind. Before you say fact check, first read my comment carefully and find where I said anything about only Maeda creating content in Key. He is still one of the founders and the main author of most of their best stuff, so it's really very strange and even somewhat insulting for me as a fan of the brand to be happy about the Key project without Maeda. Also, I'm happy for you if you're "not so pessimistic" and you like the content, but I have a different opinion. But that's the thing, there *isn't* a game, this was never a game. It's a webnovel and songs which is getting an anime, this multi-media project doesn't involve a mobile game in any way, you've confused two entirely different projects for each other. The thing is Maeda is very burnt out on media, if you've read his only recent project, Nekogari, you can see that, he wants a break and I think its in his best interest to gve that to him. Key has been fine without Maeda since Summer Pockets, I won't say his touch isn't special, but it really isn't as be-all-end-all as most people believe. Trust me, I've seen literally every Key work, including the works before Key like ONE ~Kagayaku Kisetsu E~, Maeda is important, but so is Kai, Touya, and every other classic writer Key has been making banger after banger ever since, I've read Prima Doll's source and it's pretty solid. Not to meiton, Summer Pockets, Loopers, and Lunaria all have no influence from Maeda, yet they're all amazing. Summer Pockets and Lunaria feel like some of the most classic Key works without having Maeda on the project. It feels like you're going off what you think instead of actually reading what I'm saying or keeping up with the company. I'll say it again, it's good for you if you like it. But I still would like to see the classic Key and content that looks like its best author. I have no desire to start an argument with fanboys who are ready to attack even other loyal brand fans if their opinion is not as idealistic as theirs. This wasn't an attack, I'm trying to prevent the spread of misinformation. You haven't responded to or even highlighted any parts where I tried to correct that, all I wanted to do is clarify things. If trying to correct misinformation is an attack on an opinion, then I'm the one at a loss for words here. There is a lot of hope for this project, and its visible when you look at what its got to offer. Its fine if you like classic works and want to see Maeda again, but that and this are different things When you literally mean "it was good, how can you not care about it?!" and ambiguously trying to shame me for being pessimistic about post-Jun works, this is an attack. This is especially noticeable at the point where you lose more and more sense of the difference between matters of taste and "misinformation", starting to actually insist that I can't appreciate Jun as Kei's heart just because you personally think other authors are also good. So, I will repeat once again. If you feel an orgasm from literally everything that Key does, then this is your business. I prefer more classic content. That wasn't my intention and never was, all I'm saying is that Maeda needs a break, and all writers of the franchise are important and can do amazing things. If you don't care about it, that's fine, power to you, but if that's the case, do that knowing what the project actually is. I'm not saying Key is perfect, they have made flunks, but to say something like one man dictates the quality of an entire company, and that they are stooping so low as to make low quality stories for money isn't really true. It is not a mobile game done for the sake of waifuism and quick bucks, this is a full project with love and vision, and it is still done by writers who have worked on AIR, Clannad, and Summer Pockets, all which have had just as much of an influence. Whether or not you care about it is up to you, but know what it is first. You literally keep trying to shame me for this even though I literally never said Jun is the only important/good writer in this. I also didn't say anywhere that they would make bad stories for the money, which is pretty ironic given that earlier you tried to accuse me of misrepresenting you. Please turn this whole stupid argument about tastes over. |
Jan 28, 2022 6:22 AM
#36
Tokoya said: So what you're saying is that this anime is based on a web novel and NOT a mobile game Yes, a web novel and songs, along with a website. RobertBobert said: You literally keep trying to shame me for this even though I literally never said Jun is the only important/good writer in this. I also didn't say anywhere that they would make bad stories for the money, which is pretty ironic given that earlier you tried to accuse me of misrepresenting you. Please turn this whole stupid argument about tastes over. You said the following "Because this project was originally announced as an attempt to enter the mobile games market. I even remember some criticizing this, fearing that Key would no longer write serious and deep VNs, instead concentrating on waifu bait. The only sad thing is that now it was easier for them to get money for this than for the adaptation of Summer Pockets." This is what I was referring to. I also don't want to continue this, all I'm trying to do is clarify what this project isn't, and that its a show worth seeing. |
Soul: Blue Status: Inactive |
Jan 28, 2022 6:24 AM
#37
Manpig said: Okay, that's a lot more promising now thenTokoya said: So what you're saying is that this anime is based on a web novel and NOT a mobile game Yes, a web novel and songs, along with a website. RobertBobert said: You literally keep trying to shame me for this even though I literally never said Jun is the only important/good writer in this. I also didn't say anywhere that they would make bad stories for the money, which is pretty ironic given that earlier you tried to accuse me of misrepresenting you. Please turn this whole stupid argument about tastes over. You said the following "Because this project was originally announced as an attempt to enter the mobile games market. I even remember some criticizing this, fearing that Key would no longer write serious and deep VNs, instead concentrating on waifu bait. The only sad thing is that now it was easier for them to get money for this than for the adaptation of Summer Pockets." This is what I was referring to. I also don't want to continue this, all I'm trying to do is clarify what this project isn't, and that its a show worth seeing. |
Jan 28, 2022 6:25 AM
#38
Manpig said: Okay, that's a lot more promising now thenTokoya said: So what you're saying is that this anime is based on a web novel and NOT a mobile game Yes, a web novel and songs, along with a website. RobertBobert said: You literally keep trying to shame me for this even though I literally never said Jun is the only important/good writer in this. I also didn't say anywhere that they would make bad stories for the money, which is pretty ironic given that earlier you tried to accuse me of misrepresenting you. Please turn this whole stupid argument about tastes over. You said the following "Because this project was originally announced as an attempt to enter the mobile games market. I even remember some criticizing this, fearing that Key would no longer write serious and deep VNs, instead concentrating on waifu bait. The only sad thing is that now it was easier for them to get money for this than for the adaptation of Summer Pockets." This is what I was referring to. I also don't want to continue this, all I'm trying to do is clarify what this project isn't, and that its a show worth seeing. |
Jan 28, 2022 6:25 AM
#39
Manpig said: Tokoya said: So what you're saying is that this anime is based on a web novel and NOT a mobile game Yes, a web novel and songs, along with a website. RobertBobert said: You literally keep trying to shame me for this even though I literally never said Jun is the only important/good writer in this. I also didn't say anywhere that they would make bad stories for the money, which is pretty ironic given that earlier you tried to accuse me of misrepresenting you. Please turn this whole stupid argument about tastes over. You said the following "Because this project was originally announced as an attempt to enter the mobile games market. I even remember some criticizing this, fearing that Key would no longer write serious and deep VNs, instead concentrating on waifu bait. The only sad thing is that now it was easier for them to get money for this than for the adaptation of Summer Pockets." This is what I was referring to. I also don't want to continue this, all I'm trying to do is clarify what this project isn't, and that its a show worth seeing. And we've already discussed this, but you keep pushing me, suggesting that I can't be pessimistic about what you like or that if I especially appreciate Jun, I don't care about anything else at all. |
Jan 28, 2022 6:30 AM
#40
RobertBobert said: Manpig said: Tokoya said: So what you're saying is that this anime is based on a web novel and NOT a mobile game Yes, a web novel and songs, along with a website. RobertBobert said: You literally keep trying to shame me for this even though I literally never said Jun is the only important/good writer in this. I also didn't say anywhere that they would make bad stories for the money, which is pretty ironic given that earlier you tried to accuse me of misrepresenting you. Please turn this whole stupid argument about tastes over. You said the following "Because this project was originally announced as an attempt to enter the mobile games market. I even remember some criticizing this, fearing that Key would no longer write serious and deep VNs, instead concentrating on waifu bait. The only sad thing is that now it was easier for them to get money for this than for the adaptation of Summer Pockets." This is what I was referring to. I also don't want to continue this, all I'm trying to do is clarify what this project isn't, and that its a show worth seeing. And we've already discussed this, but you keep pushing me, suggesting that I can't be pessimistic about what you like or that if I especially appreciate Jun, I don't care about anything else at all. And as I said, that wasn't my intention, I honestly apologise if I came off that way. Final word is what I said before, I've done what I set out to do which was clarify that this wasn't a low-effort mobile game. and clarify the authenticity of the people behind this project. I hope people can look at this information and look forward to Prima Doll's future based on that. |
Soul: Blue Status: Inactive |
Jan 28, 2022 6:35 AM
#41
Manpig said: RobertBobert said: Manpig said: Tokoya said: So what you're saying is that this anime is based on a web novel and NOT a mobile game Yes, a web novel and songs, along with a website. RobertBobert said: You literally keep trying to shame me for this even though I literally never said Jun is the only important/good writer in this. I also didn't say anywhere that they would make bad stories for the money, which is pretty ironic given that earlier you tried to accuse me of misrepresenting you. Please turn this whole stupid argument about tastes over. You said the following "Because this project was originally announced as an attempt to enter the mobile games market. I even remember some criticizing this, fearing that Key would no longer write serious and deep VNs, instead concentrating on waifu bait. The only sad thing is that now it was easier for them to get money for this than for the adaptation of Summer Pockets." This is what I was referring to. I also don't want to continue this, all I'm trying to do is clarify what this project isn't, and that its a show worth seeing. And we've already discussed this, but you keep pushing me, suggesting that I can't be pessimistic about what you like or that if I especially appreciate Jun, I don't care about anything else at all. And as I said, that wasn't my intention, I honestly apologise if I came off that way. Final word is what I said before, I've done what I set out to do which was clarify that this wasn't a low-effort mobile game. and clarify the authenticity of the people behind this project. I hope people can look at this information and look forward to Prima Doll's future based on that. If you go back and read my comment carefully, you will see that I literally wrote that I would not want Key to do something like this, even if I could like this show. It's all. |
Jan 28, 2022 6:42 AM
#42
RobertBobert said: Manpig said: RobertBobert said: Manpig said: Tokoya said: So what you're saying is that this anime is based on a web novel and NOT a mobile game Yes, a web novel and songs, along with a website. RobertBobert said: You literally keep trying to shame me for this even though I literally never said Jun is the only important/good writer in this. I also didn't say anywhere that they would make bad stories for the money, which is pretty ironic given that earlier you tried to accuse me of misrepresenting you. Please turn this whole stupid argument about tastes over. You said the following "Because this project was originally announced as an attempt to enter the mobile games market. I even remember some criticizing this, fearing that Key would no longer write serious and deep VNs, instead concentrating on waifu bait. The only sad thing is that now it was easier for them to get money for this than for the adaptation of Summer Pockets." This is what I was referring to. I also don't want to continue this, all I'm trying to do is clarify what this project isn't, and that its a show worth seeing. And we've already discussed this, but you keep pushing me, suggesting that I can't be pessimistic about what you like or that if I especially appreciate Jun, I don't care about anything else at all. And as I said, that wasn't my intention, I honestly apologise if I came off that way. Final word is what I said before, I've done what I set out to do which was clarify that this wasn't a low-effort mobile game. and clarify the authenticity of the people behind this project. I hope people can look at this information and look forward to Prima Doll's future based on that. If you go back and read my comment carefully, you will see that I literally wrote that I would not want Key to do something like this, even if I could like this show. It's all. Well if it helps, Key has already made three brand new short visual novels since Summer Pockets, and are planning to announce their next full-length visual novel this Spring. So, you won't have to worry about Key stopping their visual novel projects anytime soon. They are branching out and trying new things, but they won't be stopping their usual output. |
Soul: Blue Status: Inactive |
Jan 28, 2022 6:46 AM
#43
I think I'm gonna like this one, it kinda reminds me of GochiUsa |
Jan 28, 2022 6:49 AM
#44
RedChrome said: I think I'm gonna like this one, it kinda reminds me of GochiUsa If you like Gochiusa, you'll like this for sure. This story is basically a combination of Gochiusa and Violet Evergarden. With most of it being SOL, with occasional flashbacks into the characters' pasts, and how the war affected them. |
Soul: Blue Status: Inactive |
Jan 28, 2022 7:01 AM
#45
Manpig said: RedChrome said: I think I'm gonna like this one, it kinda reminds me of GochiUsa If you like Gochiusa, you'll like this for sure. This story is basically a combination of Gochiusa and Violet Evergarden. With most of it being SOL, with occasional flashbacks into the characters' pasts, and how the war affected them. Oh then I'm gonna like this for sure and with a the war past that willl make it more interesting Thx for the info |
Jan 28, 2022 7:52 AM
#46
It's nice that this isn't a gacha because the girls are so cute. Manpig said: RedChrome said: I think I'm gonna like this one, it kinda reminds me of GochiUsa If you like Gochiusa, you'll like this for sure. This story is basically a combination of Gochiusa and Violet Evergarden. With most of it being SOL, with occasional flashbacks into the characters' pasts, and how the war affected them. So basically Gochiusa with 10x the feels? It shouldn't be bad at all. |
Jan 28, 2022 8:23 AM
#47
In general, I think it would be good if we refer to Light Novell (the main reference of this anime). Also in other works. Of course, you have to see the adaptation as well.🤔😊 |
Jan 28, 2022 8:30 AM
#48
shiroha said: Thai777 said: Script -> no Jun Maeda Good. Hopefully the anime will have a decent pacing for once. I'm cautiously optimistic. Good? Look at the Director Let's also not mention that the writers only have writing credits on Kaginado, the Rewrite anime. and the Kud Wafter anime. It's not looking too bright. Yes, I know Kai is an actual visual novel writer that works with Key a lot, but in terms of his anime work, the Rewrite and Kud Wafter anime were a disaster. The anime really doesn't seem like it has anything going for it aside from the already-established merchandising. Key's done for if they're planning on using the same staff for the Summer Pockets anime because that has actual potential for people to take them seriously again in the anime community and even industry. |
Jan 28, 2022 8:35 AM
#49
Totoshinoz said: shiroha said: Thai777 said: Script -> no Jun Maeda Good. Hopefully the anime will have a decent pacing for once. I'm cautiously optimistic. Good? Look at the Director Let's also not mention that the writers only have writing credits on Kaginado, the Rewrite anime. and the Kud Wafter anime. It's not looking too bright. Yes, I know Kai is an actual visual novel writer that works with Key a lot, but in terms of his anime work, the Rewrite and Kud Wafter anime were a disaster. The anime really doesn't seem like it has anything going for it aside from the already-established merchandising. Key's done for if they're planning on using the same staff for the Summer Pockets anime because that has actual potential for people to take them seriously again in the anime community and even industry. Kai did not write the Rewrite anime, the rewrite anime was written by Romeo Tanaka, the original writer of the Rewrite VN, and the reason that had to change was because the Rewrite VN in itself is difficult to adapt. I think Kud Wafter's anime isn't that bad, it's just a completely different project from the original game. I do agree the liberties were strange though, I attribute it to maybe Kud Wafter's less-than-positive reputation for not having any real drama in the original story. |
Soul: Blue Status: Inactive |
Jan 28, 2022 9:32 AM
#50
Manpig said: Totoshinoz said: shiroha said: Thai777 said: Script -> no Jun Maeda Good. Hopefully the anime will have a decent pacing for once. I'm cautiously optimistic. Good? Look at the Director Let's also not mention that the writers only have writing credits on Kaginado, the Rewrite anime. and the Kud Wafter anime. It's not looking too bright. Yes, I know Kai is an actual visual novel writer that works with Key a lot, but in terms of his anime work, the Rewrite and Kud Wafter anime were a disaster. The anime really doesn't seem like it has anything going for it aside from the already-established merchandising. Key's done for if they're planning on using the same staff for the Summer Pockets anime because that has actual potential for people to take them seriously again in the anime community and even industry. Kai did not write the Rewrite anime, the rewrite anime was written by Romeo Tanaka, the original writer of the Rewrite VN, and the reason that had to change was because the Rewrite VN in itself is difficult to adapt. I think Kud Wafter's anime isn't that bad, it's just a completely different project from the original game. I do agree the liberties were strange though, I attribute it to maybe Kud Wafter's less-than-positive reputation for not having any real drama in the original story. Kai wrote the anime alongside Tanaka. It's listed on the Rewrite anime production staff articles and he's credited for it. He also did interviews with Tanaka, Hinoue and I think Tensho about the anime production and what to expect from it, so he was very much involved. I know the anime went a separate path because of how the visual novel routes clash with each other, but the anime still ended up being very messy to the point where they would've been better off adapting a heroine route instead of that original route which was just a collage of all the routes. I get that episode-count was a problem because Aniplex is always stingy with Key, but Tensho and the writers didn't plan accordingly to what they had to work with and it's upsetting because we at the very least could've had 1 proper heroine route adaption if nothing else. Even if they wanted to go with the "original 6th route" as they called it, it should've been written as an actual route rather than a collage. And yeah, it's not like I was expecting the Kud Wafter anime to be a masterpiece since I heard that the original visual novel barely had a story and I personally don't think Kud's original route from Little Busters was all that strong to begin with compared to the other Little Busters heroine routes, so I wasn't expecting her spin-off to be ideal either, but the anime was still rushed. How do you rush a story when there's not really any story to begin with? I just don't feel like the Prima Doll staff have anything backing them up for any anime projects they're on. But if Kai did an original anime for Key? That'd be worth checking out. |
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