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Aug 18, 2021 11:25 AM
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THIS IS AN ANIME ONLY DISCUSSION POST. DO NOT DISCUSS THE MANGA BEYOND THIS EPISODE.
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It's not just the Kirihara or the Kuroki brothers that will only of the future, even Shoko has already foreshadowed the plans that at present time, plays an important role.

Even in their world, propaganda runs amok, and for Kazama, he and his mercenary group are hell bent on proving the Kirihara Brothers' psychic powers to the world, even if they know that his plan will end in bloodshed at the expense of Naoya's life if Naoto makes a wrong move.

The first step: infiltration on the TV network, denouncing lies of Haitani that psychic powers do exist, and have Naoto prove that on live TV. Except that Naoya has identified a traitor working for the SWE, and that they have the place surrounded on both sides.

The psychic battle beteween the Kirihara and Kuroki Brothers is more than just societal rules alone, and therein lies the conflict of interest. I've gotta say that Shirogumi did a good job on exacerbating the full CG action that has gotten better overtime.

Only one question remains: even if they're connected by family relations of death, I would like to see how brutal it became.
Aug 18, 2021 3:10 PM
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DAMN Takuya is so annoying
TATAKAE!! TATAKAE!!
Aug 18, 2021 3:37 PM
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After this episode, I realized that world with their psychics unit is the best thing for psychic police brutality. I mean they can execute people broad daylight using psychics power and if anyone say anything, they can beat everyone around or shoot anyone who say otherwise. After all is just accuse anyone from making up things and you are clear.

Kirihara brothers are just getting better and Kuroki brother just worse.
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Aug 18, 2021 4:59 PM
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Best episode yet in this series. Lots of nice action instead of flashback whining. Now we have to figure out "what's up with the parents"? We played volleyball with You took my Parents. I don't know your parents. After that, we played volleyball with the parking garage contents! Much better.
Aug 18, 2021 7:35 PM
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PK battle play again... If you crush enemy's heart or brain, you can defeat him easily. Watching Naoya who is completely helpless is irritating too. Of course, if his ability is limited to passive ones like mind reading and precognition, it is also true that there is nothing he can do, but.

There is another thing that I can't agree with; the security team should have been able to prevent the terrorism beforehand. If they just wanted to separate Kirihara brothers physically, it was a stupid act.
Aug 18, 2021 10:46 PM
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Brooo the action scenes in this episode were done so well and it's CGI. Just a testament to the wonders great CGI can do
Aug 18, 2021 11:41 PM
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The visuals during the fight scene were nice and the fight was intense, gave me chills.
Aug 19, 2021 1:07 AM
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bro wtf is takuya saying😭😭😭 so innocent children can be locked up and get mocked for being.. Kids because thats society's rules??? mf What. i get that he's angry because of his brothers vission or whatever but ????? What

action scene was sick tho, really liked that
Aug 19, 2021 1:48 AM
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And . . . this has stopped making sense.

How did they get people to accept the ban on fantasy and sci-fi stories? How are they getting their own officers with powers to accept the stupid ban? There needs to be a convincing logical argument! When Naoto and Takuya were fighting, this could have been explored by comparing both their POVs. But, they just screamed senseless things to lengthen episode duration.

The terrorists know the brothers have powers, yet they still ignored their words. Naoya had even projected the vision into everyone's heads last episode, yet they still ignored him!

Real life people will also run from the truth, but when faced with enough facts, they will at least doubt or question themselves. Maybe, they will come up with reasons, however forced, to justify why the thing they believe in is right. Cuz, you know? Cognitive Dissonance? But, no one does that here. Even when the clear truth is right in front of the characters, they completely ignore it. They don't even try to tell themselves why the truth may be wrong.

Baby Naoto crying at the start of the episode sounds so fake that I can't even feel bad for him. He should let his voice out, and scream and sob and sniffle and cough. Let us hear the emotions pouring uncontrollably!

For a psychological anime, this doesn't care much about how humans work.
Aug 19, 2021 2:27 AM
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FuMomo-kun said:
And . . . this has stopped making sense.
The terrorists know the brothers have powers, yet they still ignored their words. Naoya had even projected the vision into everyone's heads last episode, yet they still ignored him!

Real life people will also run from the truth, but when faced with enough facts, they will at least doubt or question themselves. Maybe, they will come up with reasons, however forced, to justify why the thing they believe in is right. Cuz, you know? Cognitive Dissonance? But, no one does that here. Even when the clear truth is right in front of the characters, they completely ignore it. They don't even try to tell themselves why the truth may be wrong.

For a psychological anime, this doesn't care much about how humans work.
I lost my shit this episode. It was just too frustrating watching a bunch of terrorists get told by a guy that has visions of the future they're literally going to die, and then just completely ignore him. It's one thing to refuse to listen, but they don't even react. It seems to me that pretty much anyone who isn't part of the main cast or a cute anime girl is treated like an irrational monster. No one here uses their brains.

This feels like it's trying to be the next Ghost in the Shell, but it fails on every level. Which in a way makes it interesting to study. Just how could somebody get this so completely wrong? It feels like a 13 year old wrote a bad Psycho Pass fanfiction, and their overly supportive dad hired a B-grade anime studio to lift this junk onto the TV screen.
Aug 19, 2021 3:09 AM

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theGodde said:
FuMomo-kun said:
And . . . this has stopped making sense.
The terrorists know the brothers have powers, yet they still ignored their words. Naoya had even projected the vision into everyone's heads last episode, yet they still ignored him!

Real life people will also run from the truth, but when faced with enough facts, they will at least doubt or question themselves. Maybe, they will come up with reasons, however forced, to justify why the thing they believe in is right. Cuz, you know? Cognitive Dissonance? But, no one does that here. Even when the clear truth is right in front of the characters, they completely ignore it. They don't even try to tell themselves why the truth may be wrong.

For a psychological anime, this doesn't care much about how humans work.
I lost my shit this episode. It was just too frustrating watching a bunch of terrorists get told by a guy that has visions of the future they're literally going to die, and then just completely ignore him. It's one thing to refuse to listen, but they don't even react. It seems to me that pretty much anyone who isn't part of the main cast or a cute anime girl is treated like an irrational monster. No one here uses their brains.

This feels like it's trying to be the next Ghost in the Shell, but it fails on every level. Which in a way makes it interesting to study. Just how could somebody get this so completely wrong? It feels like a 13 year old wrote a bad Psycho Pass fanfiction, and their overly supportive dad hired a B-grade anime studio to lift this junk onto the TV screen.

Yeah. The story and characters are too flat, and just not properly thought out! I have seen student films with more depth!
Aug 19, 2021 3:31 AM
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FuMomo-kun said:
theGodde said:
I lost my shit this episode. It was just too frustrating watching a bunch of terrorists get told by a guy that has visions of the future they're literally going to die, and then just completely ignore him. It's one thing to refuse to listen, but they don't even react. It seems to me that pretty much anyone who isn't part of the main cast or a cute anime girl is treated like an irrational monster. No one here uses their brains.

This feels like it's trying to be the next Ghost in the Shell, but it fails on every level. Which in a way makes it interesting to study. Just how could somebody get this so completely wrong? It feels like a 13 year old wrote a bad Psycho Pass fanfiction, and their overly supportive dad hired a B-grade anime studio to lift this junk onto the TV screen.

Yeah. The story and characters are too flat, and just not properly thought out! I have seen student films with more depth!
I heard someone say on an episode discussion a while ago that this is a bad reboot of the original Night Head manga from 1999. As of now there are three versions of Night Head -> Night Head from '99, Night Head Genesis (manga and an anime) from '06, and now Night Head 2041.
My theory would be this is another case of a b-tier studio getting the rights to this in a bundle with a few other adaptations that they actually did want to get, and just decided to adapt this on the side to make a few extra bucks. It ticks enough boxes for some imperceptive 12 year olds to enjoy it, and you can feel that even if there was an intent to make something more ambitious, what mostly comes through is the laziness.
Aug 19, 2021 5:17 AM

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theGodde said:
FuMomo-kun said:

Yeah. The story and characters are too flat, and just not properly thought out! I have seen student films with more depth!
I heard someone say on an episode discussion a while ago that this is a bad reboot of the original Night Head manga from 1999. As of now there are three versions of Night Head -> Night Head from '99, Night Head Genesis (manga and an anime) from '06, and now Night Head 2041.
My theory would be this is another case of a b-tier studio getting the rights to this in a bundle with a few other adaptations that they actually did want to get, and just decided to adapt this on the side to make a few extra bucks. It ticks enough boxes for some imperceptive 12 year olds to enjoy it, and you can feel that even if there was an intent to make something more ambitious, what mostly comes through is the laziness.

Yep, this just looks lazy. Actually, this is lazy. They really could have made this a lot more interesting if they'd put some extra effort!

I think Night Head was originally a TV drama, so this has one more version. lol. I don't know which version this is remaking, though. I have watched the old anime, and it had a lot of potential, but it was also bad. At least the designs were better there!
Aug 19, 2021 6:02 AM
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FuMomo-kun said:
theGodde said:
I heard someone say on an episode discussion a while ago that this is a bad reboot of the original Night Head manga from 1999. As of now there are three versions of Night Head -> Night Head from '99, Night Head Genesis (manga and an anime) from '06, and now Night Head 2041.
My theory would be this is another case of a b-tier studio getting the rights to this in a bundle with a few other adaptations that they actually did want to get, and just decided to adapt this on the side to make a few extra bucks. It ticks enough boxes for some imperceptive 12 year olds to enjoy it, and you can feel that even if there was an intent to make something more ambitious, what mostly comes through is the laziness.

Yep, this just looks lazy. Actually, this is lazy. They really could have made this a lot more interesting if they'd put some extra effort!

I think Night Head was originally a TV drama, so this has one more version. lol. I don't know which version this is remaking, though. I have watched the old anime, and it had a lot of potential, but it was also bad. At least the designs were better there!
seeing as it keeps getting adapted, I'd assume the original must have been some kind of masterpiece, otherwise that'd be the biggest lulz moment in history
Aug 19, 2021 8:34 AM

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theGodde said:
FuMomo-kun said:

Yep, this just looks lazy. Actually, this is lazy. They really could have made this a lot more interesting if they'd put some extra effort!

I think Night Head was originally a TV drama, so this has one more version. lol. I don't know which version this is remaking, though. I have watched the old anime, and it had a lot of potential, but it was also bad. At least the designs were better there!
seeing as it keeps getting adapted, I'd assume the original must have been some kind of masterpiece, otherwise that'd be the biggest lulz moment in history

haha! I wondered that too. I looked for the original version, but I can't seem to find it anywhere. There are some cropped scenes from the show on YouTube, though.
Aug 19, 2021 9:47 PM

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oh nice so much CARnage this episode!!
still the confusing part is the memories being jumbled-up...don't know which premonition memories are legit or just fabrication genjutsu lolz
5/5.


Aug 21, 2021 8:48 PM

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I can already tell the Takuyas are clones of the Kirihara. Or they been implemened memories. Takuya is as annoying as previous Naoto who doesn't listen and have anger issues.
Aug 22, 2021 10:35 AM
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Wow clean episode. Me likey
Aug 29, 2021 7:17 AM

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Takuya gives me the annoying vibe of Suzaku from Code Geass (and funnily enough, both are voiced by Sakurai-san), in that his existence contradicts the system he's defending by fighting against his own people and he doesn't even realize it, or rather refuses to face it.
Sep 28, 2021 11:07 PM

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Now this is getting interesting.

Until the previous episode it felt so boring that I almost forgot that I had this in my watching list. Have to catch up quickly.
Sep 29, 2021 2:15 AM

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No wonder Mike was so hot headed against the existence of psychics, he is a rat working for the government. I kinda wish they succeeded in showing psychic power are real before SWE came in to teach them a lesson in their nonsensical justice.

Feb 15, 2022 11:45 AM
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Hmm. I really don't understand why this has such a "low" score.

Yes, the CGI is a bit disappointing as always but it feels like CGI has come a long way from a few years ago. The movements actually look fine mostly and not as stiff as they did in Ajin and older anime with that style.

Ok. The story is a bit basic and predictable (even a bit stupid sometimes although still entertaining) but after 6 episodes I would have put this at a solid 7 but not really below. The start was a bit slow due to introducing the world and characters but it really hooked me with episode 3.

I'm curious where this is going. Maybe the second half explains the 6.5 score
May 17, 2022 1:11 PM

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Stardew said:
I can already tell the Takuyas are clones of the Kirihara. Or they been implemened memories. Takuya is as annoying as previous Naoto who doesn't listen and have anger issues.


I was thinking alternate versions of them from an alternate timeline or something.
That would explain why they were so confused as to the years that had passed and I'm thinking they both had the same parents too.

CGI was actually pretty good this episode, normally not a fan outside of a handful of titles (Sidonia no Kishi) so it was nice seeing the battle in the underground parking lot.
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I wonder what would have been the end game in that plan? I feel that when he asked Naota to demonstrate his powers he could have destroyed the cameras and that guy at the same time. I'm just thinking if they killed Naoya, then the whole plan would have gone south.

But also the ending of the episode is what I kind of feared where the powers could get them out of anything and everything.

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