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| THIS IS AN ANIME ONLY DISCUSSION POST. DO NOT DISCUSS THE MANGA BEYOND THIS EPISODE. ---------------------------------------- That's a stylish and girlish look for Momoe, dressing like how a girl should...in a dream date while stiil looking like a tomboy. Sad that it never went far though. Unsurprisingly, the cat is outta the bag for Acca and Ura-Acca, and that isn't even as such to Neiru who already knows what's going on. Going back to Momoe about the whole sexual harassment issue, and just like Episode 4, the exact same situation is played out with anoher girl, but as compared to that episode, Momoe has largely changed for the better...and she's the first girl to break the curse of stoned friends. But when it comes to Ai with Sawaki-sensei, the line between protecting friends and hidden jealousy is unclear, and she takes another step to confirm the relationship between him and her mother. The lure with her friend Koito still stands... The overwhelming fear of death with someone named Frill...that's the price to pay with the plans going off-course. Can't these girls get anymore broken enough? |
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| Neiru and Momoe looked great like that. So Momoe had a date but the boy thought that she was a boy too :/ and apparently she "completed the game" and her friend revived but it seems like it's not going well for her at all, the scene where she threw up etc was really sad to watch. Acca and Ura-Acca are human with the same brain as before but they lost their body...? interesting, it was nice to see a picture of them when they had their human body And also interesting development between Ai and Sawaki sensei, she asked him why Koito died but they cut the scene and we don't know what he replied... I don't want to wait xD I really want to know if he's related to her death or not, this anime makes me stress too much, don't know if it's a good thing or not though. I'm definitely looking forward to seeing the next episode, things are becoming more and more interesting and it definitely seems like we'll reach or reached the climax. |
AshhkMar 16, 2021 8:33 AM
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| This episode was mainly focused on Sawaki Momoe. Felt bad for Momoe for being judged by her appearance like that. And the boy Kaoru as well. They had their moment there. That was cute. Neiru changed her look in this episode. Also, we found out that Acca and Ura-Acca were humans once but they have abandoned their bodies. That ending was really disturbing. |
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| So, is Momoe canonically straight or at least bi? Or are the authors again giving more questions than answers? @KANLen09 Well, I would say that she looks more like a childhood friend of "one of the boys" type, as if it were your typical romcom. |
RobertBobertMar 16, 2021 8:45 AM
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| Momo got asked out for a date by a boy for the first time huh? Well somehow I really feel bad for the guy as well...he just thought she would be a guy... But can you really win "the game"...Momo won it according to those you but did she really win in the end? Dunno...so many creepy things this episode- starting from Acca and U-acca until the end where Momo was forced to eat the croc... |
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| What the actual fuck was that ending LMAO KnY’s author Gotouge on suicide watch after that |
| It's got darker and darker. And, Madoka's vibe also got stronger. That kendo sensei is a real scum. I really feel bad for Momoe when someone mistook her as a boy. Finally, someone was recognized her as a girl, maybe that's the reason why she can able to clear her games. But does her games really clear??? The butterfly-headed creature at the end is so creepy and disgusting. Farewell, Panic the crocodile..... πππ |
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| Momo mistaken for a boy always but damn she is beautiful they are all blind that girl she saved was mistaken for a girl when she got a heart of a boy (transsexual) and she got raped and got pregnant eh damn Momo is the first to clear the game but she cannot sleep now since she might fight again that monster that is trying to kill her? it already killed her pet Panic we might learn the reason why Koito died next week too |
| wow a trans person in an anime that isnt played for laughs, never thought id see the day great episode imo, i hope momoe is ok π |
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| I feel bad for Momoe and the other girl/boy too. Thou that kiss was sweet. Damn the last part was messed up. That thing killed Panic and fed it to Momoe, wth man. Also Thanatos, Eros part was interesting. Seems like we are finally gonna get to know the true motives of Acca and Ura Acca. |
MegamiRemMar 22, 2021 7:11 AM
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revxdd said: wow a trans person in an anime that isnt played for laughs, never thought id see the day great episode imo, i hope momoe is ok π https://myanimelist.net/anime/8426/Hourou_Musuko?q=musu&cat=anime https://myanimelist.net/anime/37972/Hoshiai_no_Sora?q=stars&cat=anime |
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| JFC. That's a lot to taken in for sure. Though surprised how last week's end reveal just felt like it had been swept under the rug as if it was nothing to get too concerned about. Or least in a sense, that's what it felt like. As for rest of the episode, very impactful, and now I'm just sad for Momoe and Panic :c Also felt very uneasy at the painting scene. |
| This episode was great. Maybe Im strange but I like, where is this anime going. End of episode was sick, I feel bad for Momoe. I feel like there were meant to win with their trauma and at the end destroy God of Death, but it went to destroy Momoe will. |
SairentouMar 16, 2021 9:16 AM
| Thanatos is the god of nonviolent deaths like suicide (this might be the final enemy) Eros is the god of love so love will save suicidal girls is my obvious guess Acca and Ura-Acca maybe planning to kill Thanatos to become immortal? since Thanatos maybe is the god of natural death too  |
| Holy shit...the tension increasing in this was amazing. I really liked Ai's new outfit...and damn I might have to ponder a bunch of the symbolism in this again. The teacher is creepy as fuck, painting Ai as adult, comparing her to her mom and everything though. Momoe looks like she has some form of PTSD now... I feel like next week is gonna be big. |
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| Killing the digimon in the same episode it was such a cute little croc is a low blow, RIP. The trans flag colors is almost beating a dead horse, considering how clear they were about it, but I guess it's kinda nice to get confirmation in the text. Poor Momoe though, being happy about the kiss from the boy in the egg only to meet butterfly of doom and eat fine cuisine against her will. Thinktank Old World Blues Kyuubey Mensa need leveled up Lovers arcana Persona users that can confront the fear of death to get to the top of Tartarus and fight Nyx, but one of the candidates lost her soul gem and broke down. I just get the feeling the writers were in a meeting, brainstorming ideas, and instead of the leader sorting them out, they just chose to go with all of them. It ends up feeling kind of messy. The teacher painting the grown version of a girl that's probably into him, saying how beautiful she'll be and comparing her to the mother that he's dating is a bit of hibbie jibbies moment. |
KosmonautMar 16, 2021 9:36 AM
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| Boy do I love vibing to the ED song after seeing that fucked up ending. :D |
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| Episode started off all hunky dory but what the hell happened to momoe? That was hella disturbing and then the ed comes in with some upbeat stuff, get outta here! |
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TwiggyBraindead said: Boy,the teacher crept me out. Maybe I am reading too much into it but him comparing Ai to her mom and being like „you’ll be a strong woman like her one day“ kinda feels like he went for her mom because he couldn’t have her? Can’t wait to see how this gets resolved. I think he's slowly trying to groom her. That scene was super sus |
RobertBobert said: revxdd said: wow a trans person in an anime that isnt played for laughs, never thought id see the day great episode imo, i hope momoe is ok π https://myanimelist.net/anime/8426/Hourou_Musuko?q=musu&cat=anime https://myanimelist.net/anime/37972/Hoshiai_no_Sora?q=stars&cat=anime hmm, im not sure if ur intention is "UHhhM AcSKhually TheRe ArE mOre!!!" or just recommending me anime with positive representation so ill give you two responses if its the first one: the fact you only linked two kinda is just a testament to the fact that positive representation of trans people in anime is few and far between if its the second one; i may check them out but I'm not sure they would exactly be up my alley π€ |
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deg said: Eros, both as a god and as a word for love, is more closely tied to 'the love one feels for one's partner' (romantic or desire) than just the general concept of love. However, I don't think this is necessarily what the writers are going for. Thanatos is the god of nonviolent deaths like suicide (this might be the final enemy) Eros is the god of love so love will save suicidal girls is my obvious guess Acca and Ura-Acca maybe planning to kill Thanatos to become immortal? since Thanatos maybe is the god of natural death too There's also the Freudian notion of the Eros as a life instinct (procreation, survival, cooperation, bonding, pleasure) and Thanatos as the death instinct (violence, destructive behavior, trauma, self-harm, suicide). All instinct, according to Freud, are either Eros or Thanatos. These are probably what the writers hope to explore. |
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| Momoe focused episode, got more info on her mindset and oh my fucking god, that ending scene got me so hyped up. We're in for a roller coaster huh. Please don't mess up the last 2 episodes, that's all I ask for... |
revxdd said: RobertBobert said: https://myanimelist.net/anime/8426/Hourou_Musuko?q=musu&cat=anime https://myanimelist.net/anime/37972/Hoshiai_no_Sora?q=stars&cat=anime hmm, im not sure if ur intention is "UHhhM AcSKhually TheRe ArE mOre!!!" or just recommending me anime with positive representation so ill give you two responses if its the first one: the fact you only linked two kinda is just a testament to the fact that positive representation of trans people in anime is few and far between if its the second one; i may check them out but I'm not sure they would exactly be up my alley π€ It was not my goal to introduce you to as many titles with trans characters as possible. I just wanted to show that it is not so unique. |
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Kosmonaut said: deg said: Eros, both as a god and as a word for love, is more closely tied to 'the love one feels for one's partner' (romantic or desire) than just the general concept of love. However, I don't think this is necessarily what the writers are going for. Thanatos is the god of nonviolent deaths like suicide (this might be the final enemy) Eros is the god of love so love will save suicidal girls is my obvious guess Acca and Ura-Acca maybe planning to kill Thanatos to become immortal? since Thanatos maybe is the god of natural death too There's also the Freudian notion of the Eros as a life instinct (procreation, survival, cooperation, bonding, pleasure) and Thanatos as the death instinct (violence, destructive behavior, trauma, self-harm, suicide). These are probably what the writers hope to explore. yep that seems possible too and i like that to happen to make the show more deep although only few episodes remain, my guess is just the battle shonen writing level lol |
RobertBobert said: revxdd said: hmm, im not sure if ur intention is "UHhhM AcSKhually TheRe ArE mOre!!!" or just recommending me anime with positive representation so ill give you two responses if its the first one: the fact you only linked two kinda is just a testament to the fact that positive representation of trans people in anime is few and far between if its the second one; i may check them out but I'm not sure they would exactly be up my alley π€ It was not my goal to introduce you to as many titles with trans characters as possible. I just wanted to show that it is not so unique. RobertBobert said: revxdd said: hmm, im not sure if ur intention is "UHhhM AcSKhually TheRe ArE mOre!!!" or just recommending me anime with positive representation so ill give you two responses if its the first one: the fact you only linked two kinda is just a testament to the fact that positive representation of trans people in anime is few and far between if its the second one; i may check them out but I'm not sure they would exactly be up my alley π€ It was not my goal to introduce you to as many titles with trans characters as possible. I just wanted to show that it is not so unique. not unique but its rare considering most times trans people either are there to be comedic relief/ be the butt of transphobic ""jokes"" or arent actually trans and the writers make a super convoluted way to have the character actually just be a crossdresser who so happens to prefer female pronuns, presents as female & tells people they are female despite being a 100% cisgender male (people like that exist but not to the extent that the anime industry seems to believe) |
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deg said: Considering how they at times just throw things at the wall to see what sticks, I don't deny that it could end up battle shounen writing level :v Kosmonaut said: Eros, both as a god and as a word for love, is more closely tied to 'the love one feels for one's partner' (romantic or desire) than just the general concept of love. However, I don't think this is necessarily what the writers are going for. There's also the Freudian notion of the Eros as a life instinct (procreation, survival, cooperation, bonding, pleasure) and Thanatos as the death instinct (violence, destructive behavior, trauma, self-harm, suicide). These are probably what the writers hope to explore. yep that seems possible too and i like that to happen to make the show more deep although on few episodes remain, my guess is just the battle shonen writing level lol It just seemed to me that they were talking about Freud by directly opposing Eros and Thanatos - actually, that most of the plot has a Freudian veil over it, from the dreams, to the Accas, to the Eros/Thanatos debacle. I mean, saying only Eros can overcome Thanatos is pretty freudian. |
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| The ending of this episode is omg... Only two more weeks left, I hope we have a good ending... |
| loved the ep bc it feels like it went back to its roots talking about suicide and their causes in youth, especially this one which tackles dysphoria from momoe's and kaoru's side, loved it so much. also trans rights <3 but then it lost me again with the japan plati subplot like shut up these people commited suicide because of real life issues, idc abt the high iq society and their ascension program or whatever |
ratboizsMar 16, 2021 10:31 PM
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Kosmonaut said: deg said: Considering how they at times just throw things at the wall to see what sticks, I don't deny that it could end up battle shounen writing level :v yep that seems possible too and i like that to happen to make the show more deep although on few episodes remain, my guess is just the battle shonen writing level lol It just seemed to me that they were talking about Freud by directly opposing Eros and Thanatos - actually, that most of the plot has a Freudian veil over it, from the dreams, to the Accas, to the Eros/Thanatos debacle. I mean, saying only Eros can overcome Thanatos is pretty freudian. ah ok i only know that Freud likes to equate mental health problems to sex or sexual desire lol but then this anime is a lot about sex identity at least |
revxdd said: RobertBobert said: It was not my goal to introduce you to as many titles with trans characters as possible. I just wanted to show that it is not so unique. RobertBobert said: It was not my goal to introduce you to as many titles with trans characters as possible. I just wanted to show that it is not so unique. not unique but its rare considering most times trans people either are there to be comedic relief/ be the butt of transphobic ""jokes"" or arent actually trans and the writers make a super convoluted way to have the character actually just be a crossdresser who so happens to prefer female pronuns, presents as female & tells people they are female despite being a 100% cisgender male (people like that exist but not to the extent that the anime industry seems to believe) As for the latter, it's not as scary as you might think. Although the Japanese love to associate sexuality with gender identity (sometimes too much), they share a lifestyle and gender identity. For example, it is perfectly normal for the Japanese if you live like a woman and at the same time openly identify yourself as a man. In fact, there was even a seinen manga about it, where the male MC always identified himself as male and had a straight relationship with the female lead, but at the same time dreamed of living "like a woman." It is even more confusing in context, but it is a "common" thing for Japanese people. And I'm not even going to talk about characters like Astolfo or Felix, who turning this into moe. |
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| I really enjoyed this one, so many things happened both heart warming and heart wrenching. I'm happy Ai is finally confronting her problems and facing them head on and I really want to hear what Mr. Sawaki has to say about Koito's death. I really liked Momoe and that boy finding themselves (the boy having a blue, pink, and white jacket is a bit on the nose but I appreciate it). On the opposite end so many terrible things happened, that poor boy got raped, Panic was brutally murdered in front of Momoe, and she began to fear death. I can't wait for next episode, I want to see what Mr. Sawaki has to say, I wanna know what happened to Moemoe's girl she was trying to save, I wanna see death, and above all I still cant tell if the Acca's are good or not, it seems like they're bystanders or neutral but I really wanna know. |
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JanPri said: So... Did she resurrect her friend? Or was it just some metaphor? Sarka84857 said: Damn that end was really terrifying, also what's up with Haruka? I mean who knows if she really is alive and what consequences it's gonna bring. Well, we recently discussed if the show is going to say something like "people can't be resurrected", I'm wondering if the writers will back that up. |
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JanPri said: So... Did she resurrect her friend? Or was it just some metaphor? We will know later, there is still a lot more mystery, the more when we got Greek God of the Death. For now it can be anything. |
| Poor Momo, the moment she finally moved on, at the end that happened to Panic T^T Is Sawaki a good guy!!?? |
 nice clothes lol. Still don't get what was going on at the end... Uru and Acca, what are you planning??!?! On a side note: that Ai painting was really cool. Maybe the three red flowers symbolized Neiru, AI and Rika and the white one was Momoe that had already completed her mission? |
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| Lmao, the writing is so on the nose that it's hilarious. |
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| I really like that Kaoru his jacket were the colours of the transgender pride flag! |
| Just what in the world is this anime doing? With how slow things have been and the overall lack of meaningful events it feels like it thinks it's a 24 ep. series. I was really excited when Momoe's friend came back to life because it felt like something relevant to the main plot was finally happening again for the first time since the fifth or sixth episode. Looking back on it it's actually unbelievable how little has happened overall. If you want to take your sweet time introducing us to the characters and fleshing out their relationships then make it 24 episodes. It's also very, very underwhelming how it's looking like the villain is going to be someone we know literally nothing about when there's only 2 episodes left. This has been nothing but a waste of time showing cute girls doing mundane stuff and attempting to tackle heavy topics without saying anything novel or interesting about them. It's a shame because it started off decently strong and showed a lot of promise but it's been nothing but downhill ever since. |
| The suspense from last episode was literally swept under the rug in a few seconds..or at least for now.. The amount of symbolism represented in this anime is...wow The fucked up ending really built up suspense,that is until the funky ED hits up..lmao |
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| i am so scared for the final two episodes of this show |
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