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| THIS IS AN ANIME ONLY DISCUSSION POST. DO NOT DISCUSS THE MANGA BEYOND THIS EPISODE. ---------------------------------------- a cliffhanger, huh. also interesting choice grayscaling the ending, gives off sinister feeling almost everything goes as Sylvasta planned it, Nazuna's reveal of being human triggers her fans to transform and go berserk, which gives Sylvasta the opportunity vaccinate them in this state. finale awaits |
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| AAAAAAAH THAT CLIFFHANGER !!!!! Great episode, the Idol part with Nazuna was really fun to watch, she kinda realized her dream. I'm happy for her she isn't a bad character afterall, but damn I hate Boris ! I knew he was going to be a huge problem, because of him Michiru's life is in danger... And also Shirou was really scary, I hope Michiru will be alright (yeah it's kinda obvious she is going to be saved and they will stop the syndrome xD) And I feel like there is a problem with the pace of the story, it's too fast I think this anime needed to be in 2-cour and not only one :/ The climax comes too quickly I wish we had more episode on the universe and characters it was really great at the beginning of the anime. Only one episode left to conclude the story, I hope it will be a great episode. |
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| the racial and cultural theme continues but that cliffhanger though "god is dog" is Trigger spreading that meme btw lol i just realize that with wolf and fox are like gods here in this show  |
| Honestly feel like the second half of this show has gone down hill. Not that it's bad now, but more that first 6 episodes really showed us a lot of depth and ideals. But I feel like some of that is either pushed away, made to be dumb, or just rushed. Would've been better if this was a 24 ep series, as they could've covered more ground honestly. But good ep at least, final climax is gonna be fuuuuun. |
| What the hell? Why is Boris back? Nazuna fired her because she realized he's creepy, then he's suddenly back this episode, and of course, he does creepy shit and messes everything up. There are a lot of questions I don't think we'll see resolved by the last episode. How come this beastmen rage hasn't been a problem before? There are so many problems in people's daily lives, especially in a society a broken as this one, the rage should have happened many times before. Why is it only becoming a major problem now? |
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RebelPanda said: How come this beastmen rage hasn't been a problem before? There are so many problems in people's daily lives, especially in a society a broken as this one, the rage should have happened many times before. Why is it only becoming a major problem now? simply too much faith in their god that betrays them maybe so "mass hysteria" starts |
deg said: Yeah I know what mass hysteria is, that doesn't answer why the rage thing hasn't happened before, or why this situation was able to happen in the first place. RebelPanda said: How come this beastmen rage hasn't been a problem before? There are so many problems in people's daily lives, especially in a society a broken as this one, the rage should have happened many times before. Why is it only becoming a major problem now? simply too much faith in their god that betrays them maybe so "mass hysteria" starts |
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| Wow. Really? Really? Obvious badguy who’s supposed to be fired way back when is still around influencing shit. City is now in rage hysteria shenanigans. How is this sort of issue not highly prioritized in the past?? Why now is this something possibly worldshaking? Plot goes to stupid mode and we still have loads of stuff unclear. And frankly I don’t think we’re gonna get enough answers to be satisfied. Forget that, the overall experience in terms of the presentation has been lacking and puzzling. Wtf. The whole political, cultural, and governmental themes just get tossed in exchange for a climactic shitfest. Even Promare was able to properly explain and develop most of its context well enough within a far smaller timeframe. Ugh, so frustrating. |
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Ryuseishun said: Right! Promare's plot was simpler and it did the political themes well. In this show they just throw ideas at the wall and hope it goes fine.Wow. Really? Really? Obvious badguy who’s supposed to be fired way back when is still around influencing shit. City is now in rage hysteria shenanigans. How is this sort of issue not highly prioritized in the past?? Why now is this something possibly worldshaking? Plot goes to stupid mode and we still have loads of stuff unclear. And frankly I don’t think we’re gonna get enough answers to be satisfied. Forget that, the overall experience in terms of the presentation has been lacking and puzzling. Wtf. The whole political, cultural, and governmental themes just get tossed in exchange for a climactic shitfest. Even Promare was able to properly explain and develop most of its context well enough within a far smaller timeframe. Ugh, so frustrating. |
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RebelPanda said: Yeah I know what mass hysteria is, that doesn't answer why the rage thing hasn't happened before, or why this situation was able to happen in the first place. well that Nyrsvals (how ever is that spelled) incident happened too though but ye it was 1000 years ago the condition was overpopulation of beastmen on a place and looks like add distrust with others (Shiro explained this more to Michiru) thats why the whole event was setup since the beastmen are so extremely trustful of their god and they got betrayed by that god they worship so much and that triggers the mass hysteria, maybe i did not worded it properly earlier so hopefully this is more clear but if that does not answer it for you then i got no idea anymore at least for now |
Ryuseishun said: How is this sort of issue not highly prioritized in the past?? the medical center planned this all though even that live event and heck the mayor herself is not aware of whats really the plan of that Sylvasta guy anyway but sure looks like he wants to re-create what happen 1000 years ago with that Narsvyl (how ever is that spelled) incident |
Nekrozs said: Nazuna told him to leave and that she'd find a new manager. She is the one with the power, she had the microphone. She could have told the audience Boris was some kind of heretic and claimed the student ID wasn't hers. The people would have had no reason to believe a nobody over their God. I don't understand why some are complaining that Boris is still around. He was never fired to begin with. Sure, Nazuna said she didn't want him around anymore but remember that Sylvasta is the one running the show so in the end, he decides if Boris stays or not and OF COURSE he needed him around. As for the episode in general, damn that cliffhanger oAo xD! So much tension! And yeah, I do think too that some elements were kinda rushed but still, I think it was a good episode nevertheless. Can't wait for the next episode! |
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deg said: If it is so easy to enrage beastmen, why hasn't it become a problem? He's pointing out the issue should have been discussed before the situation got this bad. Everyone knows the blonde guy was planning this from the start, but his plan shouldn't have worked, it breaks the show's internal logic (if there even is any at this point).Ryuseishun said: How is this sort of issue not highly prioritized in the past?? the medical center planned this all though even that live event and heck the mayor herself is not aware of whats really the plan of that Sylvasta guy anyway but sure looks like he wants to re-create what happen 1000 years ago with that Narsvyl (how ever is that spelled) incident |
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Nekrozs said: I don't understand why some are complaining that Boris is still around. He was never fired to begin with. Sure, Nazuna said she didn't want him around anymore but remember that Sylvasta is the one running the show so in the end, he decides if Boris stays or not and OF COURSE he needed him around. As for the episode in general, damn that cliffhanger oAo xD! So much tension! And yeah, I do think too that some elements were kinda rushed but still, I think it was a good episode nevertheless. Can't wait for the next episode! Unfortunately that’s not even the only big problem. The various society-related themes that were presented as intriguing in this show initially were not only shallowly explored or explained, they were literally tossed aside at the last minute for the sake of some absurd climactic ending. While Trigger has a thing for climactic endings, everything leading up to it does not work very well, especially when two-thirds of the show were really just semi-episodic ventures with some sprinkled main plot context here and there. Not exactly the best format for a single cour anime-original show juggling a lot of concepts at once. |
RyuseishunMay 6, 2020 9:18 PM
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RebelPanda said: deg said: If it is so easy to enrage beastmen, why hasn't it become a problem? He's pointing out the issue should have been discussed before the situation got this bad. the medical center planned this all though even that live event and heck the mayor herself is not aware of whats really the plan of that Sylvasta guy anyway but sure looks like he wants to re-create what happen 1000 years ago with that Narsvyl (how ever is that spelled) incident the condition was overpopulation right? that it increases stress level or what that Sylvasta guy called mental entropy from previous episode said it if im right and that live event made that overpopulation condition good as for why they did not discuss it i got no idea why you said that though when that Sylvasta guy clearly is hiding something especially his end goal for all of this which is still not very clear at this point EDIT: |
degMay 6, 2020 9:37 PM
I know, I just watched episode 9. Beastmen are the only race in the city which is like the size of Tokyo. If overpopulation was the cause of the rage, then wouldn't it have been a much more serious issue? Beastmen should be exploding left and right if you follow this logic, but for some reason, it's only a serious problem when it comes to this one event. In the first episode, there was a giant festival full of beastmen, and there was a terrorist attack! No one raged out in that situation. They added the rage thing much later to serve this plot point. |
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RebelPanda said: Beastmen are the only race in the city which is like the size of Tokyo. If overpopulation was the cause of the rage, then wouldn't it have been a much more serious issue? Beastmen should be exploding left and right if you follow this logic, but for some reason, it's only a serious problem when it comes to this one event. In the first episode, there was a giant festival full of beastmen, and there was a terrorist attack! No one raged out in that situation. They added the rage thing much later to serve this plot point. "to preserve their mental stability, were using their faith in ginro" thats all i can think for that but that faith got betrayed ye i see your other reply that it does not make sense for them to trust a nobody like that sidekick of Nazuna but isnt that sidekick of hers is always part of the cult and is a constant preacher too? so the beastmen can trust that guy too but ye obviously that is not good writing or is it? since mass hysteria "emotions are contagious" is already spreading rapidly that time anyway the terrorist attack on the festival was more about panic than rage, thats how i view it ye you can say its mass hysteria stuff too but not the rage kind imo |
deg said: Yeah Boris is a preacher, for the cult, not for the entire Animacity population. The cult may have believe Boris over Nazuna, but in the case of this episode, he should not have had any power. This is not good writing. RebelPanda said: Beastmen are the only race in the city which is like the size of Tokyo. If overpopulation was the cause of the rage, then wouldn't it have been a much more serious issue? Beastmen should be exploding left and right if you follow this logic, but for some reason, it's only a serious problem when it comes to this one event. In the first episode, there was a giant festival full of beastmen, and there was a terrorist attack! No one raged out in that situation. They added the rage thing much later to serve this plot point. "to preserve their mental stability, were using their faith in ginro" thats all i can think for that but that faith got betrayed ye i see your other reply that it does not make sense for them to trust a nobody like that sidekick of Nazuna but isnt that sidekick of hers is always part of the cult and is a constant preacher too? so the beastmen can trust that guy too but ye obviously that is not good writing or is it? since mass hysteria "emotions are contagious" is already spreading rapidly that time anyway the terrorist attack on the festival was more about panic than rage, thats how i view it ye you can say its mass hysteria stuff too but not the rage kind imo I understand that. I'm still certain there should have been other times beastmen raged. Just look at the anti-beastmen terrorist attacks on the mainland of Japan. Beastmen are constantly being discriminated against, but the racism is because they look like animals sometimes, not because they rage. I rewatched the first episode and the rage isn't mentioned at all. It doesn't make sense. |
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| Wow this show is so mediocre, after throwing away the already shallow explored society theme plot that we had from the first 6 episodes, we now get predictable events leading up to an absurd climatic ending, anyway I really don't understand the motive behind sylvasta plan to make every beastman go mad, he was already fishy to begin with. Plus I don't understand how the mayor could only have like one bodyguard with her when she went to meet the prime minister, talking about a lack of security. And why didn't shirou think for a second to turn into a god to calm his people down, but instead he lost his cool, and his plan to shoot the fake idol god is kinda f*cking retarded as well. He could of easily set off a distraction to cancel the event, but no killing her is the option when that for sure will piss every furry off. Jesus this story and its characters are so bad, it can't be help 4/10. Goddammit this show sucks ass |
KatoWorksMay 6, 2020 11:51 PM
| basically people complains here can be summed up that its not a seriously written show and that the saying "see the show for what it is and not what could have been" fails this show like Little Witch Academia was is basic not too deep story anyway thats just how Yoshinari is as a director but i still love the wacky Kanada School animation even though the story is average as hell but i do not think its the worst kind of anime lol thats so ridiculous |
| reminder why japanese arts like anime usually have rush ending https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jo-ha-ky%C5%AB |
| The whole city is going berserk, Nazuna was fooled too What a cliffhanger I wonder how they will come to a conlusion in only one episode |
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| Now shit is going down, but was to be expected that they would abandon pacing and plot for the sake of drama and emotions, so not really disappointed. Well, the finale can still end up being impactful. |
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| that cliffhanger aha. good thing that the episodes are getting uploaded in a giant batch so i just had to refresh the page |
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| Damn, that escalated quickly!! That cliffhanger though!! They didn't manage to prevent the confession which has the opposite effect as Alan told Nazuna. Those poor Animacity citizens :( |
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| I think this is turning out to be one of the biggest disappointments I had in the past few years. :( The potential was there, but I have no idea where they went with it... The whole idol thing felt so ridiculous it made me a little embarrassed. I can't feel a thing for Nazuna after she treated Michiru so badly for so many episodes. What kind of friendship is that? We didn't get a redemption arc or anything, out of nowhere she was just cool with Michiru again, even though before she seemed to feel jealous/weird/selfish/bitchy towards her. And I'm not even going into the whole beastmen plot. This is an absolute mess. |
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| After the immense disappointment from last episode, I can't say that I'm further impressed of the events this episode, that only serves to be a mess. Nazuna still has Michiru in the palm of her hands, and as for Michiru...let's just say that she's reqlinquished to "friendship" status, and serves nothing else in the final plot moments, other than to fight for her own justice. And what the heck, Cliff Boris, I thought that Nazuna disowned you but you came back? As for Shirou, the only way for him to survive his beastmen mentality is to get back at the people of Animacity, just like how things were back in Episode 1 *and a link is formed, thank God!* Same for Mayor Barbaray, Pingu's intel only provided info that was too little, too late. Nazuna's "idol business" was a hamfisted attempt, much less a "trigger", a shot on the foot as the whole city goes into enraged beast mode based on Boris's words (and NOT Nazuna's). WELL...the inevitable has happened...and Shirou turning into beastly Ginrou is not doing any favours. Final episode...and honestly not hoping for much. |
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| Finally these two dumb bitches can see the reality of things. I felt for Shirou there. He couldn't do a thing again and that led to him going berserk, sigh. Holy damn the ed visuals were colourless in this episode. The colourless song portrays the current hopeless situation very well. |
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deg said: basically people complains here can be summed up that its not a seriously written show and that the saying "see the show for what it is and not what could have been" fails this show like Little Witch Academia was is basic not too deep story anyway thats just how Yoshinari is as a director but i still love the wacky Kanada School animation even though the story is average as hell but i do not think its the worst kind of anime lol thats so ridiculous Well this wouldn't be a problem if they didn't from the first episode hammered us with themes about racism. but evidence showed that humans in this universe are right, some too extreme but still right. Like really, this anime at least for now didn't give us any good reasons why Alan is wrong. Beastmen behavior, they bloody/deadly baseball and now this rage... they should be "cured", no question ask. |
| Manga recommendation: - Spy x Family (Ch.108/? - biweekly) | Sakamoto Days (Ch.195/? - weekly) - MARRIAGETOXIN (Ch.111/? - weekly) | Machi and Oboro (Ch.18/? - biweekly) - Make the Exorcist Fall in Love (Ch.81/? - biweekly) - Monochrome Days (Ch.10/? - biweekly) Anime recommendation: - Deca-Dence (Finished) | Wave, Listen to Me! (Finished) - If My Favorite Pop Idol Made It to the Budokan, I Would Die (Finished) - Diary of Our Days at the Breakwater (Finished) |
| Dearest God, the ED is in gray-scale... At least, just like I predicted, Nazuna sang 『NIGHT RUNNING』. I have a feeling Shirou will die. It's not a good feeling. Also Pinga. Just Pinga. |
HoruhoMay 10, 2020 5:17 PM
| ...-su. |
| That black and white ending must be homage to Gainax ancestor gunbuster, wich was also a wasted potential because it condensed too much in few episodes |
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| This Nyrsvals rage issue has several plot holes. For example, the horse dude was transformed due to a problem he had one the episode but lies and scams happen every day and there's nobody transforming. I expected it to be the typical "I inject you with something to become a monster" but although it is predictable it makes more sense than the explanation they wanted to give you. It makes me wonder why it never happened before. This is just an example of the problems in this episode and the second half. 1/5 |
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| Well, shit went down real big this time. Honestly, I couldn't help but laugh at Nazuna's perplexed expression when Boris "betrayed" her. In the end, she isn't that different from Michiru when it comes to being stupidly naive. But seriously, her thinking it was a good idea to tell the beast-men about their God being fake is beyond me. And by the way, her finally listening to Michiru was so "out of character". She never gave a damn about her worries and now, in the day of her consolidation as an Idol, she decides to listen for once to her friend after being interrupted on stage in her debut? Come on... Quite mediocre episode overall. The Idol performance still looks random and ridiculous as hell and it seems any good potential the plot could have had was thrown through the window in order to have a bombastic finale. Only good thing I can say is that seeing Shirou losing all hopes at the end was actually unexpected. For me at least. |
SouthRzVaMay 19, 2020 7:56 PM
Nazuna: Babymetal fan confirmed. |
| “SAITO! YOU NEED TO EXPLODE! FOR THE WORLD’S SAKE!” |
| Episode with an almost obvious outcome, I do not speak of the ending: it was understood where the story wanted to go, and in fact it goes there, however, the vision of this episode is interesting. I can't wait any longer, after seeing this one here, I have to fall for the last episode, I'm too curious to find out how they will close the story, even if I'm sorry because it was a bit too hasty as an anime series. |
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| Wow that escalated so fast! I don't know how can Oogami know the plan in the concert, tho. But the way they throw everything on this last scheme were beautiful. I am not gonna lie, its good with the pacing. Trigger can do that on this episode, eventhough i am too sceptic with the result in the end. So Alan and his gang really bolding his intentions. His true motives were really to trigger the beastmen getting a stressed and changed into that monster. Poor Michiru and Nazuna who can't understand the whole motives Alan throw to their. And the risk are so high. Anima city got into chaos, and Oogami suddenly changed too. He was too stressed, i know his feeling, i understand. What was i dont understand, why he know the plans? Cause his instinct? His true raged into human that can't even trust them? Such an irony with that, but on this world i 100% aggree to Oogami. In my opinion, Trigger success bring the twist to me. Im surprised with the plot. But still, the Introduction felt weak and unclear, the executions felt too rushed. The duration might be the only one to blamed, obviously. However, all of that still be a reasonable, i salute to Trigger. Thats it. So, to the last scenes, is Michiru really die? I don't even feel good with the end credits, so lets see how the last episode rolled. I hope my resources of this show can bring the last episode fast, i really can't wait. Lol. |
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Ellenwitch said: Honestly feel like the second half of this show has gone down hill. Not that it's bad now, but more that first 6 episodes really showed us a lot of depth and ideals. But I feel like some of that is either pushed away, made to be dumb, or just rushed. Would've been better if this was a 24 ep series, as they could've covered more ground honestly. But good ep at least, final climax is gonna be fuuuuun. I feel the same way. I didn't like the second half as much as the first half. I was looking forward to this show. It's still enjoyable but the plot has been really predictable. I was hoping for a big plot twist or something but when the plot is predictable and the characters are annoying, such as Nazuna and Michiru, it drains the excitement. |
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| I think that was a nice change to the ED animation by making it all monochrome or colourless, just to reflect the dire scenario everyone is in during the end part of this episode. The plot was predictable in the direction it was going, but with the way things have gone so far, this was probably for the best. Nazuna's concert might've been a success in terms of her performance, but since Michiru kept on interrupting her schedule, Boris took it into his hands to come onstage and drop the news to the crowd that Nazuna was human. Nazuna has this coming for a while now due to her naivety being stupidly strong. Despite that, Michiru did well to keep her out of harms way before Shirou arrived. The poor guy can't catch a break, can't he? He let his emotions get the better of him and just like the other beastman citizens, he too transforms and goes on a rampage. Michiru tries her best to stop him, but she got screwed over hard. I'm sure she's still alive, despite the cliffhanger ending that this episode gave us. I liked this episode, although the flaws of the story and pacing does show now. I do look forward to seeing how the last episode will try and wrap things up. |
| The only good thing is the show commitment to being bad. |
| Intense episode, everyone goes crazy |
| Based Certified. I love anime armpits. |
| Michiru convinced Nazuna not to confess, but Boris screwed everything up, and now everyone's going apeshit, including Shirou. Speaking of which, Shirou has bitten into Michiru! Will she live? |
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