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Apr 26, 2020 4:38 PM
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looking at this, i'm afraid the bad end has switch to heroin. like the geordo stuart might see Maria as another rival and try to seduce bakarina with sweets.
and is that kaicho another flag for bakarina? i'm worried because he appeared at OP, oh God, stop stealing all men and women around you bakarina!
Apr 26, 2020 6:12 PM
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Catarina's logic is quite flawed. As long as she doesn't act like a total bitch to Maria, she won't get the bad ending. Since her being a total bitch is the main reason why she gets bad ends
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Apr 26, 2020 7:35 PM
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Romte said:
i can't understand why i like this anime so much

+1

I wonder if the fight for her love between her harem will end up with her being killed by protecting one of those that she loves.
Apr 26, 2020 11:39 PM
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JakkoFourEyes said:
Catarina's logic is quite flawed. As long as she doesn't act like a total bitch to Maria, she won't get the bad ending. Since her being a total bitch is the main reason why she gets bad ends


It is explained in episode 1 that she thinks that she can still be made an evil mastermind even if she doesn't bully Maria which I think it quite makes sense if the game is scripted. Sure the game is not running as scripted now but she is too busy to notice that
Apr 27, 2020 12:01 AM

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I can't help but love this girl...and her series too I guess.

As of now this is the show I like the most from this season.
Apr 27, 2020 12:36 AM

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So... what about avoiding all possible death or exile by simply starting dating Maria? I mean, it sounds like a good plan to me ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

Incredibly entertaining episode once again. Grown-up Katarina is such a beauty and her being this dense only adds more charm to her character. Wasn't expecting to like her this much, being honest.

And so, Maria was finally introduced and as expected from the MC of an Otome game, her looks and kind aura are quite noticeable.
Honestly, since Katarina is basically, at this point, the new protagonist of the game, I was expecting some kind of narrative twist with Maria taking the villainess role but guess it won't be the case here. Especially considering that after being defended by her (killing Gerald's potential happy life with Maria in the process, by the way), it seems she will eventually become another victim of Katarina growing harem. Not that I'm complaining but I think said twist could have been kinda interesting.

This said, seeing Katarina defending her and praising her food was still a quite sweet moment so now, I look forward to seeing more heartwarming scenes between these two.
Apr 27, 2020 1:20 AM

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Would be hilarious if Catarina and Campbell got together at the end lmao. Love they stick to the loli Caterina with the inner court meetings
Apr 27, 2020 3:06 AM

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Felt Saori Hayami's voice sounded a bit too old for Maria, but apart from that another very good episode.

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Apr 27, 2020 6:51 AM

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Yes finally bakarina meets the protagonist ^^
Mary could be a fantastic wife~
Apr 27, 2020 9:46 AM

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I regret picking up the manga and reading ahead but that still doesn't stop me from watching each episode 3+ times every week for the lolz

Also loled so hard at Kat shaking Keith like crazy....It makes it look like he "broke" cuz she shook him so hard but I think he broke more because Kat supported his misunderstood "love for Maria"

Ahahaha.....I'm always torn every week which pairing I would like the most....
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Apr 27, 2020 10:14 AM

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I hope she somehow gets to conclusion that safest solution would be for her steal heroine for herself.
Apr 27, 2020 3:54 PM

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Love Bakarina <3 . Also Maria voice is perfect, just how I imagined she would sound from reading the manga.
Apr 27, 2020 11:55 PM

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Just like I thought, the game going in a different direction. ^^ 10/9
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Apr 28, 2020 9:45 AM

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lmao Geordo's voice when he saw Catarina heading toward the yuri route

I think the issue Catarina has here is that she's still viewing things as a gamer. From the outside looking in. She doesn't realize just how much she's impacted and changed these characters by being a part of their lives.

I love how Keith changed from an aggressive playboy in the game to a precious boy that can barely stand being accused of liking a girl
Apr 28, 2020 3:19 PM

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Good episodes, but I feel like this arc in the manga is just better. Idk what it is, but I feel like some of Keith animation is off-model, especially when she talk to Katarina early in this episode. Also, they add some scene here and there and it was not a bad changes in itself but idk. Also, Maria did not sound what I imagined in my mind. In my mind, she sounds sweeter, but here she sound a little bit deep. T_T
Apr 28, 2020 5:19 PM

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Hayami Saori is not the voice actor I was expecting for Maria, but it's a welcomed surprise.

Gerald needs to go to horny jail. Good on Keith for being best boy.

Hilarious episode. Katarina is so much fun to watch.

Oh how I wish Maria and her would end together :c

Apr 28, 2020 6:33 PM

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Keith is so cute lol it's not fit for him to be a playboy. Catarina already conquered the game since day 1 lol I even love her! Mary is a boring "protagonist"
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Apr 29, 2020 9:30 AM
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Inner conferences gg!!!!! Also, when mom tells you "do not pick up food from the ground and eat it" you gotta proceed like Catarina… and do it either way :D
For anyone avoiding getting doomed... engage in some farming activities- credits to our monkey otaku for the idea! Must say i tried it and it's super fun, carrots… eggplants… onions.. tomatoes make the exile not a scary end-game :p

Keith-suuuuuuuuuuu's i-immoral things??! and blushing expression- he has heard enough for the day (adorable scene iiiiii)
Apr 29, 2020 12:18 PM

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nobody insults the cake!! >:(
Apr 29, 2020 1:45 PM

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Why do I feel like the mom is the real reason for Catarina to become a villain in the game?
Yeah, Maria is a sweetie as I expected.
Wonder why a serious dick was introduced...
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Apr 29, 2020 3:36 PM

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so, in this version, Katarina falls in love with Maria and steals her from the boys, easy way to stop her doom flag :v


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Apr 29, 2020 5:09 PM

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IbarakiDouji said:


Arguably that happened last episode. ;-)
Apr 29, 2020 7:08 PM
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love this episode... yeah
Apr 30, 2020 7:46 AM

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Have already read the novel and the manga, so I skipped right through to this.

Won't spoil anything.

Didn't expect Katarina to be so beautiful when animated, and her voice fits so well. :D
Apr 30, 2020 1:30 PM
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Breaking her own death flag without thinking
Apr 30, 2020 3:02 PM

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And Katarina's harem is completed:D Chibi Bakarina's conferences are so cute, who needs an angel and demon when you have chibi Katerina's with different personalities XD
For someone with death flags, she already lived significantly more than all her harem because mentally she's 32 years old.


ワンダーランド花 ♥

Apr 30, 2020 4:10 PM

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I like how even after Bakarina aged up, her inner thought council members are still kid like both physically and mentally lmao.

What a gem I have stumbled upon, this is really wholesome, hilarious, and has a catchy OP and ED to boot.
May 2, 2020 9:46 AM

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This anime gets better with each episode! Can't wait for the next episode now!!



May 2, 2020 8:51 PM

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I loved the fact that Nicol's devilish charm caused chaos within the student council. keep stealing those events Catarina!

May 3, 2020 5:07 AM
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フラグ、キタ!
May 5, 2020 12:20 AM

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What Catarina doesn't know is that she has become the harem protagonist
May 6, 2020 10:37 PM

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Another great episode!

I can't get enough of Catarina, she's just so damn beautiful. The heroine of the game Maria Campbell honestly pales in comparison by FAR.

So... Geordo (what is his name really?)... he was trying to seduce or semi-force Catarina to sleep with him? Keith cock-blocked him but I'm damn glad he did lol
May 7, 2020 7:30 AM
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Bom demais!!! Maravilhoso
May 7, 2020 8:30 AM

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Seeing the council inside her head never gets old. Back to farming!

Catarina is smooth asf! She's even managed to get the main heroine into her harem lol
May 9, 2020 8:30 PM

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i already miss everyone being chibi
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May 10, 2020 1:50 AM

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Aaaah! I'm not usually one for harems but boy am I excited for this one!
why am i plagued with furry jokes everywhere I go
May 10, 2020 5:34 AM

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Catarina is a nice girl, she was able to change and even helped Maria.
May 11, 2020 1:59 AM

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I am really enjoying this anime. And that is a very interesting name.

May 12, 2020 8:42 AM
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A beautiful, likeable, fun character that you actually understand why people would fawn over her nonstop. Katarina for the win. Not crazy about Maria though. She's so bland and vanilla. That said, I'll forgive her if I hear her say "onii-sama" a couple of times

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May 20, 2020 3:26 PM

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I can't believe she ate every muffin without even noticing it lmfaaooo


Also, love the voice actor they chose for Maria, she has the perfect voice for this role imo.
May 25, 2020 9:47 PM

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this is getting so much better and better. Like i still can't get over the fact that the antagonist, the one that's suppose to be bullying and ruining peoples lives, is the one given the spotlight and befriending and defending the protagonist because she literally makes the best cupcakes and is literally a sweet cinnamon roll. I mean if a girl that called your cookies heavenly, then scared a group of bullies away with a glance then proceeded to C O N S U M E the cupcakes you made that are littered on the ground at the speed of a vacuum cleaner, can you really see her as your own antagonist? Lmao luckily Katarina's sharp smell of sweet products helped her out and seeing the actual real villain side was a nice touch.
I'm also so relieved that Keith didn't turn into a play boy, dude seems so innocent. I'm also happy that Katarina's positive choices had such a big impact on Alan, turning him into a kind-hearted musician not a egotistical sociopath that hates to lose.
Lmao it reminds me of choosing the option to save some random NPC in the main story instead of leaving them, even if it cost me extra resources and near heart attacks having to fend off enemies triple my level, only to have that NPC later down the main story suddenly come in and save my ass from the last boss in some awesome cinematic cut scene.
Jun 3, 2020 12:15 AM
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This was a fun episode, Catarina is making relationships with every possible characters, so it seems like she is turning into the character from the Otome game.
Jun 6, 2020 4:56 PM
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Catarina adorable to be trueful the only character that could be a villain is greodo his jealousy may get the better of him
Jun 6, 2020 6:11 PM

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I appreciate that they balanced out the fact that she's the "mastermind" by making her really dense, brings some quality humor. And the ending song is fire; "Bad End", what a title!
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Jun 18, 2020 1:30 PM
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This was the episode we found out the prince's real name:

EIORD STUART
Jun 20, 2020 7:54 PM
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Why is she so clueless!!! You think Keith would try to explain what is going on to her!!!
Jun 21, 2020 12:34 AM
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Now that the series is done I think this is as conclusive as it will get:



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Jun 22, 2020 8:31 AM
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Oh, man, the pacing on this episode kinda irritating at my usual watching rate. Its too fast that i completely forgot what was goin on there. However, one thing simple happened on this episode. That Catarina's just indirectly add the beautiful Maria into her own reversed harem side. Great, Catarina, great! It seems her 7 years of time skip really paid a big deal to the whole development toward the dead flag. The effect caused the whole route falls down into some butterfly effect schemes. Idk if that shit was served as the great causes or not. So lets see how Catarina live his daily academy life while continuing to avoid all the possibility of crashing the dead flag. Indeed the whole misunderstanding might be conflicted too much, and Catarina density should be reach its max. What Catarina's shall do with all of that shit? Was she reach the good end, or a bad end?
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Aug 13, 2020 11:58 AM

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This has become even cuter!?
Can't wait for the relationship between Catarina and Maria. It seems like this will be interesting
Feb 4, 2021 3:05 PM

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i cantttt ajsasal i actually thought that the heroine would turn into a vilain or somthing like that BUT Catarina really do be snapping thoses hearts i cant
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