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Feb 10, 2020 5:52 AM
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Damn, revenge can really be a hard feeling to overcome.

Again, the show is protraying Ash as a hero trying to make a difference in a world of uncertainity. That's kinda sad how events unfolded this episode. I felt bad for those kids...
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Feb 10, 2020 5:58 AM
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Sakurai-san's character helped that lady enemy for the assault, which is that incident w. the siblings.

Younger sibling went missing. Main guy cannot save her though because that's not their goal this time. It seems like the siblings faced the twin enemies then.

2nd generation "Klariskrays" saving that another girl and let her escape w. her weapon. It was to protect that girl when there's enemies attacking.



ED: "Living on Like Stars" by Mika Arisaka

It seems like Shimono-san's character met that lady enemy w. his sister when they were young.
tsubasaloverFeb 10, 2020 8:01 AM
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Feb 10, 2020 6:56 AM
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Beautiful end of episode but damn it made me feel so bad
Feb 10, 2020 7:10 AM
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Feb 10, 2020 7:11 AM
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Honestly the ending of this episode was great and unexpected i would even call it epic.
I am really looking forward to next week seeing how this will end.
And i also wonder what kind of effect all this will have on the future.

Also judging by all this it's safe to say that the red haired girl is Clarice, seeing as Matoi transferred the staff to her.
If i am not mistaken that is.
Feb 10, 2020 7:32 AM
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"Living on Like Star" the new ending in this episode is actually

What Xion really want Matoi to be

the entire context of the song are Xion apologize toward Matoi and wish her for full happiness.

This part is the reason why PSO2 player are attract to PSO2 story.

the main plot is just that tragic and beautiful at the same time


mickbisFeb 10, 2020 7:45 AM
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What I love most is that Ash doesn't seem to be an intelligent person, I hate when protagonist trying to outsmart everyone's around. Even the dark falz version of him (my guess) is still not a 'known-all' type character.
Oh, and Dia/Melrandia shouldn't survive, so that Gettemhult will partner with Zeno instead, the scar on their faces turn me on so much!
Feb 10, 2020 7:54 AM
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Aversa said:
Also judging by all this it's safe to say that the red haired girl is Clarice, seeing as Matoi transferred the staff to her.
If i am not mistaken that is.


This will be explained in a few chapters at most, and while that's not it, it's not exactly wrong either!

tsubasalover said:
ED: "Living on Like Stars" by Mika Arisama


Mika Arisaka, not Arisama. She's the same singer of the first ED, and like this one, it's a song from Xion to Matoi.


I really liked this chapter and I'm so glad they included Gettem & Seana's story as well, which we couldn't see in-game! If I were to complain about something, however, it would be that Persona's reveal was a bit rushed... even though it's such an important thing! Hopefully they will make this up with the rest of the show.
Feb 10, 2020 9:06 AM
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This will be explained in a few chapters at most, and while that's not it, it's not exactly wrong either!

In the game her name was revealed during this part, but I guess the anime will leave that reveal for the Klariskrays backstory episode.
Feb 10, 2020 9:50 AM

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So, in the end Ash ends up interfering with the past and we now know that Matoi is Prolific Darkness, but never become one , but was transported to the future without her memories.
Feb 10, 2020 11:20 AM

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Time to go next planet ~~
Feb 10, 2020 12:12 PM
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Hmm so this is the battle that caused Getty's attitude to do a 180 then due to the loss of her partner. Never getting used to seeing those kids devour the bodies of the slain. Matoi's switching between her kind self to her serious self though was pretty impressive showing well not just her sense of duty back then but also the talent of her seiyuu. The apprentices tactic of using the ARK's as puppets though sure was a low move of them. Though its too bad that Ash was too late to stop masked guy the effects of Matoi's demise sure was unexpected. The actions and subsequent reactions of the masked man to Matoi's fate was also a rather curious one as well that raised some interesting questions. So the woman that Alfin met in the future was actually his sister then.
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pls revive Luther and kill him again
Feb 11, 2020 4:56 PM

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ezodagrom said:
NanaminL said:
This will be explained in a few chapters at most, and while that's not it, it's not exactly wrong either!

In the game her name was revealed during this part, but I guess the anime will leave that reveal for the Klariskrays backstory episode.


Yes, I know. In fact, her name was in the anime chapter credits as well, plus we've had a few hints already, but I'm guessing they are just waiting for that chapter, yeah.
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NanaminL said:
ezodagrom said:

In the game her name was revealed during this part, but I guess the anime will leave that reveal for the Klariskrays backstory episode.


Yes, I know. In fact, her name was in the anime chapter credits as well, plus we've had a few hints already, but I'm guessing they are just waiting for that chapter, yeah.


Yes, they did put a flashback during Mothership arc ao it pretty obvious aside from the hair
Feb 17, 2020 2:48 AM

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Another amazing episode and this would have been perfect if the action scenes were done better. I'm assuming that the reason Matoi turned like that is due to absorbing lots of falspawns. Now the question that remains is how did she end up in the future. I guess the other version of Ash did something.
Feb 17, 2020 6:14 AM

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MegamiRem said:
Now the question that remains is how did she end up in the future. I guess the other version of Ash did something.

The moment that Xiao brought Ash back into the present time, during the time travelling Xion was talking about erasing everyone's memories and the records of what happened, and she also talked about waiting for Ash. It's implied that she used that time traveling to also bring Matoi into the first episode (Matoi's outfit in the first episode is a white version of the one that appeared on her when she started turning into the Profound Darkness).
Feb 22, 2020 3:42 AM
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Surprisingly amazing backstory. Tied the Gettemhult/Seana plot, Matoi & Xion, dark faltz lady & Ash's double all together.
Finally explained dude's cross scar, but curious he wasn't pissed at the Twins ever.
We saw red kid at least twice already, will be an interesting followup subplot.
Not clear dark Ash's motives, but since Xion realize it's all a mistake, maybe he followed thru to eliminate Matoi to prevent her turning into that worse than Darkfaltz form.

Feb 22, 2020 10:33 AM
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Surprisingly amazing backstory. Tied the Gettemhult/Seana plot, Matoi & Xion, dark faltz lady & Ash's double all together.
Finally explained dude's cross scar, but curious he wasn't pissed at the Twins ever.
We saw red kid at least twice already, will be an interesting followup subplot.
Not clear dark Ash's motives, but since Xion realize it's all a mistake, maybe he followed thru to eliminate Matoi to prevent her turning into that worse than Darkfaltz form.



Gettemhult concious is already bring taken over by [Elder] the moment he become Dark Falz
Jun 5, 2020 5:12 AM

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So it all comes back full circle, I guess. After that moment, Matoi was transported 10 years into the future, where she meets Ash (again) at Naverius. Why she was transported 10 years into the future was not explained, or did I miss something? If I didn't, seems it'll be explained soon enough.

So many tragic stories in PSO2... Seana, Matoi, Klariskrays.
It seems after seeing her interact with the Clarissa staff, Luther took that little girl and made her into the third Klariskrays.

I last watched the 17th episode months ago that I felt a bit lost watching this episode. Had to go back and skim episode 17 lol excited to learn more about Matoi and how this arc ends.

Also, it seems Afin's sister became the new host of [Apprentice]. So that's why Afin was so shocked.
Aug 24, 2020 3:32 PM

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I knew it (bit obvious) of Persona to be future Ash. Pieces are coming together now that we know what happened 10 years ago. Melrandia shouldn't feel any guilt considering Gemini randomly appeared and blasted Seana away. Pretty sure red haired girl is Clarice (or a clone). So far most plottwists were kind of obvious but never saw it coming that Matoi would turn into Profound of Darkness

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