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Jan 20, 2020 3:54 AM
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Well, that is it. I think Itsuki fans won't love this short feelings cameo from Negi. And I don't think Nino fans would enjoy this declaration either.

Oh, well. Hope the final few chapters at least show Yotsuba changing. Unless she cannot understand that declaration was Nino's way of saying "have an impeccable future with the person who chose you". Such a drag queen.

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shanimebib said:
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Well, that is it. I think Itsuki fans won't love this short feelings cameo from Negi. And I don't think Nino fans would enjoy this declaration either.

Oh, well. Hope the final few chapters at least show Yotsuba changing. Unless she cannot understand that declaration was Nino's way of saying "have an impeccable future with the person who chose you". Such a drag queen.

3/5


The battle is still continued between Nino against Yotsuba for the love of Fuutarou.. At least Itsuki is already mature and she already understanding the situation so that's why she want to congratulated Fuutarou early (She already hands off relationship to Fuutarou)..

I hope that this will be happened to our neighborhood anime "BOKUBEN (We Never Learn)" that the battle between Uruka against Fumino will be started anytime, anywhere for the love of Nariyuki...😜😜😜
Jan 20, 2020 5:03 AM
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shanimebib said:
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Well, that is it. I think Itsuki fans won't love this short feelings cameo from Negi. And I don't think Nino fans would enjoy this declaration either.

Oh, well. Hope the final few chapters at least show Yotsuba changing. Unless she cannot understand that declaration was Nino's way of saying "have an impeccable future with the person who chose you". Such a drag queen.

3/5


The battle is still continued between Nino against Yotsuba for the love of Fuutarou.. At least Itsuki is already mature and she already understanding the situation so that's why she want to congratulated Fuutarou early (She already hands off relationship to Fuutarou)..

I hope that this will be happened to our neighborhood anime "BOKUBEN (We Never Learn)" that the battle between Uruka against Fumino will be started anytime, anywhere for the love of Nariyuki...😜😜😜


You do realize that THAT was Nino's way of being kind even after getting heartbroken? That's her tsun way of blessing Yotsuba and Fuutarou. It's over. The final few chapters should really at least concentrate on Yotsuba not being such a drag.

But next chapter will most likely focus on Itsuki. So, we will have even fewer content for Yotsuba because of the wedding and all.
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Jan 20, 2020 5:15 AM
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And here I was hoping for switch and bait poor itsuki tho why even bother showing her feelings.

Well, what can I say except for congrats to yots worst ship to happen and atleast I'm not gonna except that forever but fortunately there are some very good doujins out here so I guess that's that. Still it was drag to read past anything beyond 113 just went 10 to 1 really fast now only dad is left to be convinced I guess. Gonna get another heartbreak soon lol from bokubon too lol.

P. S Nino is and will remain the best girl in MA hart forever for her everlasting bravery and courage best train ever Miku too and I hope both of them get the love they deserve a man who's better than Fuu and he was used to be one of my fav too.

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And here I was hoping for switch and bait poor itsuki tho why even bother showing her feelings.

Well, what can I say except for congrats to yots worst ship to happen and atleast I'm not gonna except that forever but fortunately there are some very good doujins out here so I guess that's that. Still it was drag to read past anything beyond 113 just went 10 to 1 really fast now only dad is left to be convinced I guess. Gonna get another heartbreak soon lol from bokubon too lol.

PS Nino is and will remain the best girl in MA hart forever for her everlasting bravery and courage Miku too and I hope both of them get the love they deserve a man who's better than Fuu and he was used to be one of my fav too.



Fuutarou's decline is incredible. When did it start falling apart I wonder?

I always thought what makes Keima, Araragi, Harima, Hachiman so popular because they are charismatic characters and not a trophy. They standout as real protagonists of their own stories. Unfortunately, we don't see many of them in romcoms. They are the rarest kind of MCs who can carry the entire story on their back.
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Jan 20, 2020 5:58 AM
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shanimebib said:
PersiaJuliet23 said:


The battle is still continued between Nino against Yotsuba for the love of Fuutarou.. At least Itsuki is already mature and she already understanding the situation so that's why she want to congratulated Fuutarou early (She already hands off relationship to Fuutarou)..

I hope that this will be happened to our neighborhood anime "BOKUBEN (We Never Learn)" that the battle between Uruka against Fumino will be started anytime, anywhere for the love of Nariyuki...😜😜😜


You do realize that THAT was Nino's way of being kind even after getting heartbroken? That's her tsun way of blessing Yotsuba and Fuutarou. It's over. The final few chapters should really at least concentrate on Yotsuba not being such a drag.

But next chapter will most likely focus on Itsuki. So, we will have even fewer content for Yotsuba because of the wedding and all.


But the story for remaining chapter will be continued until the month of April 13-14 2020 (including the volume 14) but in the volume 13 will be ended on second week of February 2020... So their will be another twisting moment that would be happened without notice story.. So which means that the battle still continued until the end is over..
Jan 20, 2020 5:59 AM
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shanimebib said:
Congintive said:
And here I was hoping for switch and bait poor itsuki tho why even bother showing her feelings.

Well, what can I say except for congrats to yots worst ship to happen and atleast I'm not gonna except that forever but fortunately there are some very good doujins out here so I guess that's that. Still it was drag to read past anything beyond 113 just went 10 to 1 really fast now only dad is left to be convinced I guess. Gonna get another heartbreak soon lol from bokubon too lol.

PS Nino is and will remain the best girl in MA hart forever for her everlasting bravery and courage Miku too and I hope both of them get the love they deserve a man who's better than Fuu and he was used to be one of my fav too.



Fuutarou's decline is incredible. When did it start falling apart I wonder?

I always thought what makes Keima, Araragi, Harima, Hachiman so popular because they are charismatic characters and not a trophy. They standout as real protagonists of their own stories. Unfortunately, we don't see many of them in romcoms. They are the rarest kind of MCs who can carry the entire story on their back.


Well, and u can actually see that they are also very popular and people like them unlike most harem where people only care about waifus without any single regard to Mc and I really detest harem like that thought it was different but well I don't know why negi did that to him I mean he went from one of my fav to I don't care anything about him.
Jan 20, 2020 6:44 AM
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Poor Itsuki realized her feelings one chapter and then threw them away in the next one.

I feel like Negi only made Itsuki realize her feelings just so people can stop memeing about the story being about just the 4 sisters and Itsuki being the "best friend" although I personally liked that Itsuki always played the best friend role for Fuutarou but oh well.

The closure with Nino was a lackluster thought. I hope we get one more chapter with her before moving on to Yotsuba.
Jan 20, 2020 9:24 AM
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Oh shoot, i just realised one thing that will prevent me giving this manga 10/10 : the author.

Negi is such an arse for writing off first girl just like that.
Jan 20, 2020 9:25 AM
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Itsuki being best quint for a chapter straight.
Every sister is okay with it by now. Please start dating already.
Jan 20, 2020 2:14 PM
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Well it was pretty good. Chapter felt really short. Only a few chapters left /:
Jan 20, 2020 11:17 PM

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It feels like they're trying to prop up Yotsuba's strong character, but they keep tearing down everyone else for it. That Nino declaration of war was so hollow.
Jan 21, 2020 2:50 PM

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The further I go, the more I realize how bland Fuutarou's character is. He was never a protagonist of his own story, really. All he does best is to sit on his throne, act as a mere trophy, and choose the girl he loves.

It's hard to drop the series as well because of the reaching ends. Leaving it right here and there will be off as well.
Jan 21, 2020 2:57 PM
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Y'know I had no qualms with Yotsuba winning initially, but this whole situation has been handled like a train wreck. Just rip off the band aid end this series Negi, you really dropped the ball with this final arc.
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Jan 21, 2020 3:05 PM

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I don't mind Yotsuba being end girl but this has become such a mess in the last few chapters.
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Jan 21, 2020 3:27 PM
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I dont know what to think and how it will end but I dont expect here Yotsuba final
Jan 21, 2020 3:36 PM

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Apparnetly MAL community is the opposite of most other 5-toubun communities I've been in lol. I'm very happy with how this is turning out. I'm glad Yotsuba didn't just happily run off with her boi with no thought to her sisters at all. Nino needs to stop being so tsun tho lol. Itsuki really shined the last few chapters. I didn't care for her at first but she really grew a lot pretty quickly
Jan 21, 2020 4:06 PM

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And Negi baits everyone once again, making it seem like Itsuki might not be out of the running only to crush any illusion of that within one chapter. In all honesty, I'm not sure whether I should be impressed or annoyed with the sheer audacity of it.

However, I will keep saying this: actually show us how Futarou feels about all of this, rather than just bringing every other character down to progress the main pairing. Negi's stubborn refusal to show any chemistry between Futarou and Yotsuba and any reasoning for the decision is becoming more and more infuriating the longer it continues.
Jan 21, 2020 5:42 PM

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So it's over, Nino finally moved forward and also any possible chance of Itsuki getting any romance development got shot down, feelsbadman

Negi did my girl Itsuki very bad, the execution of the last arc is so underwhelming tbh

Anyways Nino is BEST girl, this fact can never be changed. Nino gang till the end
Jan 21, 2020 7:59 PM

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Past few chapters have been mad boring. Tonal whiplash. How do you have two people confess, then shift to another character's perspective to focus on some shit that doesn't matter and has only been mentioned for the first time now, while also dragging out this silly sister's drama at the same time? And it's not like Yotsuba or Nino said anything that we didn't already expect them to say either, nor did Itsuki's subplot contribute to her character or the plot in any meaningful way that I can see.

Why'd it take 4 chapters to resolve this? The confession in a romance is the climax, but after this climax we kept wasting time with shit that killed any sort of enthusiasm for seeing these two interact as a couple at all. And I liked Yotsuba too. Oh well.
Jan 21, 2020 11:49 PM

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he is a fucking walking plot device, LMAO. all of his action now just to showcase the girl. he doesn't feel like character anymore. he might as well a faceless hentai MC and it wouldn't made any difference. i am very offended by author treatment over fuutarou.

i DON'T mind yotusba ending. but the whole last arc clusterfuck is just too hilarious. itsuki still best girl btw.
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Jan 22, 2020 2:13 AM

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She was never in love with Fuutaro, just uneasy about the relationship her sisters would have after that and what kind of relation would she herself have with him. Now she can finally be sure he was only her friend and her sisters will be ok. I like how she never fall in love for him. She may like him a bit, but never loved him (as we could see in the festival arc, she was the only one who didn't kissed him) and they relationship was purely one of trust and friendship.
Jan 22, 2020 4:19 AM
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Not being salty jsut saying due to the lack of it in these past few chapters as it's ending soon,

Fuutoru never showed any romantic interest at all till recently it just came out of nowhere. Negi took to long doing it and just feels off and the winner just feels like a trophy or fuutoru feels like one regardless who it is and not earned.

This series keept the mystery aspect going on for to Long and it completely ruins the romance side of it because their isn't none it's all one sided this manga should have been longer then maybe it would have been more fleshed out not as rushed it all depends on where the "romance" would have started especially with fuutoru and not suddenly have feelings for a girl with no signs what's so ever.


It's the same problem I'm having with we never learn atm I'm reading from the beginning and have read 5vols so far and the mc has no intention of romance if that changes later on with the 140 odd chapters if it has then I welcome it and look forward to it.


Also I have seen comments that say noticed readers base "best girl" on who is the hottest or cutest or best personality and never who's best for the MC. I kinda agree to a certain point
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NIIIIINNNNNOOOOOOOOO!!!!!!!


Jan 22, 2020 8:48 AM

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Ayy that's Yotsuba for ya, she never stopped caring for her sisters. Good thing she made peace with Nino too and Itsuki's part was pretty sad but with this both of their routes are now officially closed. Now I hope we'll see more Yots x Fuutarou chapters.
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What most bother me is the Fuutaro´s attitude with the other girls, he is just ignoring them, he never rejected them adequately, is almost he was waiting to Yotsuba keek solving his feeling problems. Its annoying
Jan 22, 2020 1:43 PM
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Why does Negi write such an incredibly appealing and charismatic character like Nino, give her the best lines and moments with Trophy-kun, only to then...sideline her? The same could be said for Itsuki, who had probably he most screen time of all the girls, only to...well, we all saw it.

Like I wrote in the previous discussion. Stop showing the other girls so much and give Yotsuba some desperately needed fleshing out. She needs much characterization
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Jan 22, 2020 3:23 PM
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PersiaJuliet23 said:
shanimebib said:


You do realize that THAT was Nino's way of being kind even after getting heartbroken? That's her tsun way of blessing Yotsuba and Fuutarou. It's over. The final few chapters should really at least concentrate on Yotsuba not being such a drag.

But next chapter will most likely focus on Itsuki. So, we will have even fewer content for Yotsuba because of the wedding and all.


But the story for remaining chapter will be continued until the month of April 13-14 2020 (including the volume 14) but in the volume 13 will be ended on second week of February 2020... So their will be another twisting moment that would be happened without notice story.. So which means that the battle still continued until the end is over..


The battle is over. There will be some sporadic panels deceiving us but Yotsuba already won and all the next chapters are going to be fillers trying to develop Yotsuba. Honestly, there is no time for a significant twist. Furthermore, Negi is wasting time and is not caring to develop the winner.





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Welp I see no point in having more chapters as Yotsuba was already chosen and the author is just trying to have more reasons to get people to like Yotsuba with that last minute “development” which makes me sad that it’s ending this way, but we still have a volume and a halfish left so I have hope
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She was never in love with Fuutaro, just uneasy about the relationship her sisters would have after that and what kind of relation would she herself have with him. Now she can finally be sure he was only her friend and her sisters will be ok. I like how she never fall in love for him. She may like him a bit, but never loved him (as we could see in the festival arc, she was the only one who didn't kissed him) and they relationship was purely one of trust and friendship.


Do you read the manga with your feet?
The only thing Shimoda was wrong about was that she was jealous or had to steal him from Yotsuba.
This chapter is clear proof that she LOVES HIM since she disguised herself as Rena, https://mangadex.org/chapter/787661/19 Itsuki LOVES HIM but has decided to keep her love secret and continue in this way, because even if a love fails to come true, the memory of her first love will always be precious.
I can't believe it, you understand the exact opposite of what's going on in the chapter.
Jan 22, 2020 7:47 PM

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I honestly can't wait till this is over. This fanbase is cringe and I definitely won't miss the constant whining.

Jan 22, 2020 8:38 PM
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ah bro Nino though... she truly is the best character and waifu of this series :')
Jan 22, 2020 10:11 PM
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Close to open warfare even if if Itsuki relents after confessing
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EliAyaseLL said:
luckyg4mer3 said:
She was never in love with Fuutaro, just uneasy about the relationship her sisters would have after that and what kind of relation would she herself have with him. Now she can finally be sure he was only her friend and her sisters will be ok. I like how she never fall in love for him. She may like him a bit, but never loved him (as we could see in the festival arc, she was the only one who didn't kissed him) and they relationship was purely one of trust and friendship.


Do you read the manga with your feet?
The only thing Shimoda was wrong about was that she was jealous or had to steal him from Yotsuba.
This chapter is clear proof that she LOVES HIM since she disguised herself as Rena, https://mangadex.org/chapter/787661/19 Itsuki LOVES HIM but has decided to keep her love secret and continue in this way, because even if a love fails to come true, the memory of her first love will always be precious.
I can't believe it, you understand the exact opposite of what's going on in the chapter.
We'll just wait and see for the next chapter.... for those in Japan without the translations, NO SPOILERS!
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filler chapters PepeLaugh

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Its shokugeki all over again... its getting worse and worse..

Rip itsuki, she didnt even has kiss panel...

Oh well, just end this shit already..

The only good thing about this chapter is Nino smug face 10/10
Apr 18, 2020 7:08 AM

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Nino, never give up to get a sweet victory (fuutarou).
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so Itsuki wants to be a true friend of Fuutarou.

That's so deep, deeper than any blade.
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Well I'm glad things were sorted between Yotsuba and Nino and also for Itsuki...glad to know Nino is still the same :)
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A nice deal between Yotsuba and Nino and the love thingy. Damn their cosplay also cute.
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so Itsuki wants to be a true friend of Fuutarou.

That's so deep, deeper than any blade.


Real shit bro damn

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