Vinland Saga
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| THIS IS AN ANIME ONLY DISCUSSION POST. DO NOT DISCUSS THE MANGA BEYOND THIS EPISODE. ---------------------------------------- Damn, I love the amount of details on the weather and sea in this episode. Reality hits hard as this episode shows the consequences of crimes. Poor Thorfinn, I feel like his pride had been hurt from the previous episode and now broken with despair. The dialogues were intense from this episode with the chereography.  |
Stark700Dec 22, 2019 7:54 AM
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| This episode was simply fantastic. The King is either the most genius person in the world or the luckiest person to have ever existed. Regardless, declaring that you will conquer Wales literally petrified Askeladd, although he seems to have a plan... Thorfinn's despair was the highlight of the episode for me. Thorfinn basically has no goal in his life either than to kill Askeladd. I really liked how Leif tried to encourage him. The author of Vinland Saga, Makoto Yukimura, voiced a supporting character in this episode, and will do so as well next Sunday. Next Sunday is going to be insane. Overall, 5/5 |
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| My heart is not ready for next ep. |
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| Next episode is going to be bonkers. This episode was nice, the filler part was cool. 5/5 |
| "Life is too bitter, so coffee, at least should be sweet..." - Hikigaya Hachiman (Yahari Ore no Seishun Love Come wa Machigatte Iru) |
| Damn I am at the edge of my seat. Subs can't release fast enough. |
| Askeladd looked like he saw a ghost when Wales came up. I figured he'd have a great poker face, but he was way too easy to read there. |
| *Mourning the disappointment of The Promised Neverland season 2.* |
axel360 said: Askeladd looked like he saw a ghost when Wales came up. I figured he'd have a great poker face, but he was way too easy to read there. Wales is really his biggest weakness. |
| So good. I loved the entire scene with Thorfinn and Leif. Especially that shot where Leif is standing over Thorfinn with the light shining behind him. Man that was good. Thorfinn is in such a pitiful state I hope to see some transformation from him soon. Also Askeladd literally shit a brick when Wales was mentioned. I'm nervous for what the king will say to him. |
| So that thing didn't happen this episode but today was just the set up. This didn't end where I thought they would cut it off. So next episode then will have everything. I wonder if it will be slightly longer to cover it all since this episode had some original content. Bah, I'm not gonna be ready for next week. |
| Amazing, that is all you can say about this episode and series as a whole. Can’t wait for the finale. |
Gabisu said: I'm curious about the same thing and can only assume next week will be a long episode to put Thorfinn where he "should" be. If not, then the original content in this episode is really going to mess up the sequence of events from the manga. I was talking on another board how I have faith in Wit Studio to pull this off but your points make me doubt a little.Secret stuff |
| Phenomenal episode for the week, the director promised something good and the team totally delivered! Amazing how they kept the temp across two different fronts like that! Leif is a really heartless person. I love how he was being so upfront about it as well, not just for Thorfinn's sake but his too. "Vinland" is back in the picture too. Thorfinn's seriously been on a hopeless for far too long now, hopefully this will beat some sense into him. On the other hand, the King versus Askeladd. Jeez, the rumours are on full force and just when the King seemed to be check-mated, Askeladd took a safe breath too early. Some sort of a leak, is it? Nasty old man sure hit Askeladd in his weak spot, I can't wait to see what he'll say next directly to him. I wonder who the creator voiced this episode, meanwhile. I have a couple of characters in mind currently, lol. I'm looking forward to the reveal next week! Just one more episode to go, what a ride this has been! Here's to hoping seeing this end on high note. Manga readers seem to be quite ecstatic above so that's a really great sign in advance, I suppose. |
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| I really like the music in this episode. |
| "The future is always blank. Only your willpower can leave footsteps there." "Ruling over death means ruling over life. Death is the climax of life. To have the best death, you must honor life." |
Gabisu said: I will comment as a manga reader here, don't you find these original scenes unnecessary? making thorfinn arrested for his scene hallucinating Askeladd and arranging confusion by confusing people with Askeladd, still inserts Leif motivating him to come home and about Vinland... I am not quite as worried, since the official twitter has repeatedly promised everything happened in the manga will be adapted, only orders will be reversed and some original contents will be added, it seems this filler (yeah, it is filler lol) is the original content they were referring to. I assume their intention (albeit they didn't execute it as perfect as I wish them had) is to give Thorfinn something to do while Askeladd and Canute stealing the spotlight (since in the manga he was just daydreaming and only start entering the scene when things went bonkers), what Leif said will not affect much since Thorfinn would be too devastated to process much when the prologue concluded. The whole production staff said they are huge fans of the manga, thus no way they would attempt to drastically change farmland arc; SNK season 3 part I is the worst thing that could happen but that is still loads better than some of us's worries. |
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| And we are reaching the final part. Askeladd was totally caught off guard there. That face he made, said it all. Time to find a way to turn the tables now against the king. Still wondering what they will do with the whole anime original plot of Thorfinn being a prison. Gabisu said: I will comment as a manga reader here, don't you find these original scenes unnecessary? making thorfinn arrested for his scene hallucinating Askeladd and arranging confusion by confusing people with Askeladd, still inserts Leif motivating him to come home and about Vinland... |
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| As a Manga reader I was surprised to find myself skimming through large parts of the original Thorfinn content this episode because it was mainly just redelivering dialogue already said in the show, but slower and even reusing a lot of footage while doing it, so it wasn't even interesting to look at. Hopefully the corners cut there will mean more flashy animation for the finale though. This was mostly just the show flying in a holding pattern, Clearly they wanted the main events to go down in the finale but now I'm slightly worried they might have to rush a little next week. The TV Anime 20-something minute episode format really can be tricky to adapt things with sometimes. As a result of this pacing things out, I'd say this is the first episode since 17 that I would describe as anything less than great, shame the streak had to end but if they do it right the next episode will more than make up for it. Bring on next week. |
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 oh shit what is Askeladd gonna do in front of the King right there? is he gonna kill him right there? lol the close up character drawings in this episode are great too just like with episode 20 and 21 if i remember right |
welcum2savage said: This premature development for thorfinn suggests there probably wont be a season 2. The director said they wanted a more complete story with this one season. yep i made a thread about that too when the director says they want to make this an independent content as much as possible since there is no guarantee for a sequel anime (implied that is) here is that interview https://myanimelist.net/forum/?topicid=1813651 |
welcum2savage said: Oh god, i hope they don't end it like that, i don't see how they can add all of character development Thorfinn goes through in Farmland, especially since they kept the lack of development he had in this arc. Im having a bad feeling about this.This premature development for thorfinn suggests there probably wont be a season 2. The director said they wanted a more complete story with this one season. |
| Really digged the usage of soundtrack this episode, looking forward to the events about to unfold in the next one. |
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| I knew the king would mention Wales when he was talking about rebellious people and Askeladd getting too confident. But I wasn't expecting such a reaction from Askeladd. Poor Thorfinn. He's broken from the inside. One more episode left. |
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| Another great episode, Thorfinn and Leif's conversation was amazing. Thou I wonder how this season will end with just one more episode left. |
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| Begins furiously popping popcorn for next episode The additions in this addition are interesting, though I'm not sure how they're going to make Thorfins chat with Lief cohesive with the larger narrative. |
| Interesting that there's some anime original stuff. I wonder how it will impact the what is the known logical ending in the next chapter. Do they already know that no sequel is possible or something? Still love this adaptation. The way they captured Askeladd's shock was fantastic. |
| "Perhaps there is a universal, absolute truth. Perhaps it justifies every question. But that's beyond the reach of these small hands." Mamoru Oshii There is a cult of ignorance (...) nurtured by the false notion that democracy means that “my ignorance is just as good as your knowledge.” Isaac Asimov |
Gabisu said: MonkeyDHunter said: And we are reaching the final part. Askeladd was totally caught off guard there. That face he made, said it all. Time to find a way to turn the tables now against the king. Still wondering what they will do with the whole anime original plot of Thorfinn being a prison. |
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deg said: FFUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUU....................K..... That is not a good sign at all for season 2. Hopefully Amazon is willing to invest the money to do so in the future if this shows is viewed on their platform enough (even though I hate Amazon getting anime rights).welcum2savage said: This premature development for thorfinn suggests there probably wont be a season 2. The director said they wanted a more complete story with this one season. yep i made a thread about that too when the director says they want to make this an independent content as much as possible since there is no guarantee for a sequel anime (implied that is) here is that interview https://myanimelist.net/forum/?topicid=1813651 |
MetaKite said: deg said: FFUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUU....................K..... That is not a good sign at all for season 2. Hopefully Amazon is willing to invest the money to do so in the future if this shows is viewed on their platform enough (even though I hate Amazon getting anime rights).yep i made a thread about that too when the director says they want to make this an independent content as much as possible since there is no guarantee for a sequel anime (implied that is) here is that interview https://myanimelist.net/forum/?topicid=1813651 well Dr Stone is not popular in Japan heck it did not get a lot of manga sales boost same with Vinland Saga there in Japan it seems but still Dr Stone got a sequel due to international streaming profit alone and im not gonna be surprise if Vinland Saga will have the same fate considering this show is popular on international streaming sites (both pirated sites and Amazon Prime) |
degDec 22, 2019 11:24 AM
deg said: I can only hope so. Until today I thought it was a shoe in for a season 2 even if it came out as late as 2022. The original content is really suspect but I appreciate the director's caution.MetaKite said: FFUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUU....................K..... That is not a good sign at all for season 2. Hopefully Amazon is willing to invest the money to do so in the future if this shows is viewed on their platform enough (even though I hate Amazon getting anime rights). well Dr Stone is not popular in Japan heck it did not get a lot of manga sales boost same with Vinland Saga there in Japan it seems but still Dr Stone got a sequel due to international streaming profit alone and im not gonna be surprise if Vinland Saga will have the same fate considering this show is popular on international streaming sites (both pirated sites and Amazon Prime) Lawren222 said: I figured it would be but am hoping it will be a longer than usual episode so everything isn't rushed and crammed in. Thorfinn isn't even at the hall in the anime right now so looks like more original content is coming. If it makes you feel a bit better they did say the ending of the arc will remain the same and the next episode is called " The End of the Prologue" the same as chapter 54 in the manga. |
| Thorfinn still depressed and then gets locked up. The scene with him and Lief was kinda neat but man Askeladd home might be attacked. Slowly waiting for next week now. |
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| Slow but also a good episode. I hope the ending will be the same just like the manga. Farmland needs to be animated. Music was great. |
| Pretty great episode. I guess they really wanted to save that "big moment" for the final episode because there was so much anime original content with Thorfinn in this episode. Dunno where they are going with Thorfinn's character tho. His character development kicked in much earlier than it did in the manga and if he's not there for that big moment next episode it will mess up the story and narrative so much. |
Devil_SlayerDec 22, 2019 12:02 PM
| Great episode as always. The king is either really good or got really lucky with his declaration to conquer Wales. Askeladd's reaction to that was priceless, he was literally dumbfounded and had no idea what to do. Curious how he's gonna work things out. Leif's conversation with Thorfinn really hit hard. T.T |
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| So Thorfinn gonna grow up too like Canute and just go to Vinland? |
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| Great episode again, sad there's only one episode left... |
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| This was about as solid as set-up could ever be, keeping things moving with a compelling conversation between Leif and Thorfinn in the prison and also with the developments in the war and Askeladd being caught off-guard by the mention of Wales. I'm not sure what can really be done with one episode left, though. |
| Amazing episode as always. The animation tho... SO SMOOTH! |
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