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Oct 27, 2019 11:16 AM

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VanishingKira said:
Based SAO with ryona now wew

How those people even come with shit like this. lol Sometimes I wish that LN and manga didn't get adaptations, because my god, I have to read some of the most bizarre things that I never read on their original format by anime only people. It's like female characters never were killed in anime (and in this case, on a VRMMORPG GGO in a tournament, which the game has a pain inhibitor unlike in project Alicization)

Oct 27, 2019 11:17 AM

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Ahhhh this is getting sooo good! Asuna is finally joining the battle and the rest of the gang won't be far behind i reckon.
On another note; why the fuck would you leave ruling rank characters of the DARK TERRITORY unlocked?! That's just asking for trouble... Kikuoka should never be allowed to work in this field again, he's too dangerous with the tech!

Also, i might be wrong but i feel like i remember seeing that blond guy in SAO Alternative?

Oct 27, 2019 11:29 AM

#103

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My goodness my heart is not ready for what's about to happen.
What's about to happen is going to be epic. Everyone is about to get involved somehow someway in this conflict of intelligence, romance, and knowing what the hell is righteousness.
Wonderful to see Asada/Sinon. Almost thought we were back in We Never Learn in that scene and then the GGO is there.
It sucks that Agil/Andrew didn't speak in this episode but he's here! Yay!
My goodness the US is involved in this. Hey who told them to spend my tax dollars on this operation?! Oh yeah the military industrial complex, which whether in a Sanders Administration, Warren Administration, a Pence administration or a Drumpf administration, will be active and looking to cause harm to our precious humanity but dammit we will fight them because its worth fighting for.
Hot damn. I'm so excited to see Asuna as a goddess cause, just like my Bestie Natasha from Michigan, she is a goddess. Woooo!

Oct 27, 2019 11:40 AM

#104

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This was the best episode of Alicization so far! I loved the artwork and the technological talk, and that two members of the raiding part are diving into Underworld as well as Asuna - wow, that Miller is an SOB but it will be an interesting dynamic to see him as an adversary, and as an Emperor of the Dark Territory no less! Also, what was that ominous dream that Sinon had? I can't wait to find out more about it! This is getting a provisional 9/10 from me and I think it bodes well for what's to follow - I think Alicization is finally living up to the hype and my high expectations for it :D

Oct 27, 2019 11:47 AM

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caio_brb said:

FaffywaffleJLA said:

Stupid comment. Saber may have been inspired from Agrias since FFT was 1998 and FSN was 2004, but every other clone after that have all been Saber clones. Nobody in the 2000s is gonna give a shit about some 1998 character, everybody by this point knows who Saber is and is one of the most popular characters in anime and in Japan. So every blonde haired, sword wielding girl knight these days is a mother fucking saber clone.

Violet evergarden is also a saber clone, you gonna tell me she was also inspired by Agrias? I fucking doubt it.

Alice was created as a character at the same time as Saber, so yes, it's much more likely for her to be inspired by Agria than by a character from a visual novel which Kawahara never has been a fan of the genre and at the same time, he created her on the same time period.

Thank you. I hate so many SAO fans that are completely clueless about when it was actually created and written and even why. I do miss when this series was just some random free to read story online as an alternative to Dot Hack before Kawahara made changes to it and started actually selling it (nothing against the man making his hustle work for him. I just hate the current fanbase).

Oct 27, 2019 1:02 PM

#106

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Finaly Asuna decided to dive in underworld in order to help Kirito, i am so excited, i was waiting for that since the beginning!

So the leader of the invader was one that was an enemie in GGO, and what was that users in dark territory without any login protection, damn they will be strong for sure!

Didn't expect to see a lord of dark territory wanting to negotiate piece with human empire, and even ask Lipia for be his wife, what a guy! looks like there is good people in dark territory!

What was that Sinon dream, damn!

So excited for next episodes!

Oct 27, 2019 1:53 PM

#107

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MetaKite said:

caio_brb said:

I have to say, I miss too. Sometimes I wish it was never adapted to anime because of how things got in the anime community.

Oct 27, 2019 2:06 PM

#108

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Pretty exciting episode with a lot explained, nice build up for the next one.

Looking forward to seeing what happens next.

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Oct 27, 2019 3:18 PM

#109

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Siglius said:

CeddyyBearr said:
So the two bad guys has dived into the Underworld. Also Asuna will be joining the world too. Things are gonna get spicy.

I wonder what was all about that dream Sinon had, it honestly looked like it will have something to do with currents events. The person who choked her seems to be an American. Maybe it's connected to the group that invaded the turtle.

Can't wait to see Asuna in the Underworld and team up with Alice.

It's literally the same guy as the one who's leading the attack on the Ocean Turtle. She also mentioned in the very first episode last season that she wanted Kirito and Asuna to help her take on this Subtilizer guy who completely shat on her in the last tournament.

She had a nightmare about that event in that tournament. It wasn't a dream. That literally happened.

Oh shit, you're right, I have forgotten about it. Tnx for pointing that out though!

Oct 27, 2019 3:43 PM

#110

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they made a nice connection with the GGO flashback, but skipped Gabriel's flashback, welp.

At least we got to see a easter egg of Alicia during the dive in lol

i dont remember that part in ALO with kirito shit companions, glad that it wasnt long tho

heyyy its shasta and lipia... Wait, didn't Lipia had a more darker skin?

next episode we start the best part of volume 15, nice

also the subs REALLY used Vecta instead of Vector LUL

Oct 27, 2019 3:53 PM

#111

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So tell me why the heck all the high level accounts of human side is locked but then the highest rank of dark territory accounts not locked too?

So it's ok for random people to log into the highest dark side rank account to mess around huh? What a stupid and convenient writing as usual from SAO.

The first and second episode of "villagers are all bad guys/ massive dick because reasons" and "Alice can't use her power because reason, opps, she can use all her power all along, she just wants to roleplay as a bullied girl" scenario is dumb as hell too.

Seriously SAO try to be sooo serious in its setting and characters, but the presentation, the logic, the writing, the character, the portray of villains are just so insultingly dumb..

I'm not trying to be overly critical, but when a serie trying to take itself too seriously yet its presentation fail to live up to all the seriousness, I find that my IQ got insulted and it's hard for me to rate it any higher than 6. This has been true for almost every SAO series, including the movie.

The first and second part, Kikuoka actually gives zero shits to both sides. In a way they were meant to play around until they get the perfect military AIs they want. Besides, they never have been invaded before, so this must have slipped their minds to put extra passwords. It was also mentioned last season that there was likely a traitor in their midst.

For the third part, you must understand that the AIs are all still imperfect. Their judgement and sense of right and wrong still flawed, they have no empathy and were created this way. Alice had to hide her powers because she is on the run from the empire.

Or as TV Tropes brings up some Fridge Brilliance and Horror:

“All of this act just prove one thing. All the Fluclights that took form as human beings in Underworld were completely corrupted with their personalities. Technically, they are just heartless beings with no kindness and no mind to think at all. Even the parents acted like that towards their own children and continues this cycle eternally. This all happens because one of the earlier users, which Asuna passed by an unknown staff at Ocean Turtle nurtured his descendants in underworld to create an order that separates nobles and bluntly servants with wicked personalities. In time, all of that give birth to Quinella and the residents become unable to act on their own beliefs, being heartless and do not even consider each other's circumstances when in trouble. It is no wonder Alice felt rather reluctant to fight for them and Cardinal wanted to delete the whole Underworld in the first place. They took things for granted. And yes, most people might say, serves them right for those corrupted people to die in torture in the hands of a heartless monsters from Dark Territory had the leader of the Integrity Knights had a sane mind and sense of justice to protect them. Simply saying, Project Alicization was a huge failure in terms of replicating the good nature of humans to most of the civillians.”

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Oct 27, 2019 5:57 PM

#112

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Very nice and amazing ep, the GGO's Sinon flashback make my eyes shine, but the low part of this chapter its the ALO scene, who read the novels (specially the next) will fell the same as me, i just wonder how they will explain the Yui's discussion later.

Oct 27, 2019 6:12 PM

#113

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I hate that Asuna is diving in to save the day. Just let Alice do her thing. Asuna is trash. IMO

The Sinon Flashback was amazing and for that to happen along with Yui's message they'll probably all jack into the Underworld eventually as well.

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Oct 27, 2019 8:13 PM

#114

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That scene with Sinon turned me on.

Oct 27, 2019 9:01 PM

#115

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Well, we already knew Asuna was going to dive in from last episode when she glanced glared at the empty terminal.

So, the time finally has come.

And of course nobody used the bad guy high level account so they're unprotected...you had one job sysadmin, xD

bruh

Oct 27, 2019 9:48 PM

#116

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The waifu diving in to save Kirito, LETS GOOOO!

Can't wait until Asuna and Alice meet!

The ending was pretty cool because that guy just spawned in on the throne, pretty clean scene.

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Oct 27, 2019 10:31 PM

#117

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That episode was quite info dump heavy, 8 minutes of Vilains dialogues, could be quite boring. It make me laugh when they said only forgiveness could wake up Kirito from his vegetable state, he is better like that. It is good to see Alice have a major role in those 2 previous episodes role and later I hope but of course it had to mostly be center around Kirito.
I wonder who could be the little girl that the main villain saw before diving, connect to his real story? I am the only one a little bother at first by the humans looking people from the Dark Territory, I though it was suppose to be only monsters! The 2 new characters really look like those from the Integrity Knight, and seem already likable for me! Also the Lisa Song is really good for the ear, must be so far one of my favorite songs from her, really like the Chinese Instrumental and Auto-Tune at the end.
SAO is still bad as a literature piece but I am hype for the rest! And did they take the place of the Emperor/Dark Knight or are they only class with no soul?

Oct 27, 2019 11:09 PM

#118

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Completely unironically, I don't get the hate for the rapey/fanservicey stuff in SAO. It's as if anime was a completely chaste medium that strayed away from anything remotely controversial until SAO came along and defiled its purity. Oh, wait.

I like SAO for what it is, perverse events and all. I really do. The perverse events that the females undergo is in part fan-service for the audience, but a safe one at that, precisely because they know that Kirito will come in and rescue them at the end. In this respect, they can then enjoy the scene from a multitude of perspectives. They can put themselves in the villain's shoes and experience subjugating the female characters and they can see themselves as the hero that saves the girl at the end. In a way, the girls' purity remaining intact at the end only serves to facilitate the abuse without ruining the character for both Kirito and the fans. It's having the cake and eating it. For what it is, it's brilliant.

Oct 28, 2019 1:21 AM

#119

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I had trouble staying awake this episode, the bad guys are so uninteresting/boring. I had to rewatch some scenes multiple times because of it.

Oct 28, 2019 3:59 AM

#120

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I actually enjoyed this episode quite a lot. The thematic concerns and choreography was on point, and the plot seems a bit darker this season, which I like.

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Oct 28, 2019 4:23 AM

#121

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Another amazing episode we finally saw Gabriel diving to Underworld also i can't wait for Asuna!!!

Oct 28, 2019 11:31 AM

#122

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caio_brb said:

lelelejandro said:
Hmmmh. I'm not really pumped by the idea of the actual main cast to finally invade the Underworld. I mean, the reason why I like Alicization so much is the lack of previous cast, ha. Still wish someone will just make a NonNon Biyori kind of anime with Alice, Kirito and Eugeo tbh lol. Honestly, SAO is really amazing in a way that it's literally the only franchise that can manage to make me hate the whole original cast and favoring 3 kids who only appear for like, 3 eps in the whole series

Ah well. I just hope they won't ruin the whole thing with some overpower bs. And I hope the Underworld cast will still be the main lead. Like, the season in named The War of the Underworld. It'd be a bummer if they end up leaving everything to people who aren't part of the world itself.

Anyway to all the people who insist that there's no 'rape' ever happen in the franchise, you guys know that rape doesn't have to include penetration, right? The definition on the damn thing is unwanted sexual assault, dude. You don't even need a second to google that.

Rape and sexual assault are two different things and yes, rape only means penetration, the rest are abuse or sexual assault. I'm a lawyer kiddo, I work with it.

> It'd be a bummer if they end up leaving everything to people who aren't part of the world itself.

Like Kirito himself. lmao dude, I wish I could spoil everything to you, but maybe you should already see that the situation is in need for people to enter on the underworld with the antagonists entering to pick up alice, kirito in that state, alice being targeted, the own underworld about to be destroyed and somehow Asuna can't enter it for you. lol it wouldn't make any sense for her to not enter.

Yes, I'm aware of that (the Underworld and outside intervention part), doesn't mean I have to like it tho. As I said, I mainly enjoy Alicization for the lack of the original main cast, that's why I'm not exactly pumped to see them again. Of course I realized that Kirito is part of the original main cast itself, but honestly, at least to me, he behave so differently compared to how he is on other seasons, so I enjoyed seeing him on this arc more. Kinda feels like seeing him as a difderent cast honestly.

Also, to clarify, I said 'leaving everything'. I want the Alicization cast to still have their spotlight, not getting side stepped when the original main cast arrive in the Underworld.

As for the rape/sexual assault definition, I have to apologize. It seems like the definition of the words are different, because here in my country, rape is defined as any sexual act done without consent. I worked on medical field and I have to deal with legal paperwork for those cases, so I do know my stuff too. But it looks like the definition of the word are simply different on different place, so that one's on me.

Oct 28, 2019 2:18 PM

#123

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I love Asuna's guts and the ability to take action! She will help Kirito!!

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Oct 28, 2019 3:34 PM

#124

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So....basically Kirito is now...., Asuna is practically a widow (and a fine piece of ass for sure) and the rest of the cast (except for Alice...she's cool) are just a bunch of " fill in" characters???

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Oct 28, 2019 7:36 PM

#125

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VanishingKira said:
Based SAO with ryona now wew

Welcome to western anime fans. You just can't win against these guys. If she didn't get hurt, people would complain about mary sue.

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Oct 28, 2019 7:51 PM

#126

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SoraSenpai said:
I hate that Asuna is diving in to save the day. Just let Alice do her thing. Asuna is trash. IMO

The Sinon Flashback was amazing and for that to happen along with Yui's message they'll probably all jack into the Underworld eventually as well.

Both will have their moment. They're the protagonists of that part of the arc.

Formidable-chan said:

caio_brb said:

Welcome to western anime fans. You just can't win against these guys. If she didn't get hurt, people would complain about mary sue.

it's bizarre that we're on such point

Oct 29, 2019 2:59 AM

#127

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So the US is back at it again
At least Asuna is finally gonna dive in
Sounds like a lot is gonna happen next

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Oct 29, 2019 3:48 AM

#128

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I guess it was an alright episode?

Oct 29, 2019 4:27 PM

#129

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If this episode is used to explain the enemies' rationale, it is nothing more than filler.

To risk this, Asuka would risk her life at the expense of the STL being in its final stages...so other than to rescue Alice, there isn't much incentive.

I'm gonna guess that Sinon's encounter with the same enemy (that's attacking the Ocean Turtle now) is something of note, but not really sure what to make of it now.

Lots of plotholes here and there, just really wanting to know what's going on.

Oct 30, 2019 10:41 PM

#130

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why did he not lock the dark territory account and didn't even mentioned it

Oct 31, 2019 3:55 PM

#131

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Don't know what to say about this, but it looks like SAO maybe gets bad. For some reason I found the Dark Knights of the Dark Territory happened to quickly, but yeah that's just my assumption. Maybe the other reason is, when the whole harem dive the Underworld, I can't tell wether this is bad or good now but I hope it will be good as the previous season.

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Nov 1, 2019 3:11 AM

#132

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So finally our girl Asuna is diving to save Kirito. Really looking forward to next episode.

Nov 1, 2019 11:11 AM

#133

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well hmmm.. asuna to the rescue

Nov 1, 2019 5:22 PM

#134

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an intro into another intro, like two intros in consecutive weeks. here we go, boys!

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Nov 1, 2019 10:40 PM

#135

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I'm actually happy that they decided reveal all the boring RIDICULOUS NOSENSE BACKGROUND behind the plot soon in the 3rd episode, so now the series can focus on baddass action, fights, rape, love triangle and the other things SAO is well knowed for.

Sure that in the 5th episode nobody will remember or cares about how stupid is the plot about "bad americans who use sunglasses at night stealing an anti-ethical tecnology - made for people fool enough to protect it in a base isolated in the sea and easily acessed for home-submarine - about awkward AI explanation and contraditory premisses since even in the previous season there was lots of "fuructolaitos" with normal human willing to fight and kill as a soldier, and now there is even more, probably being Alice itself the least homicidal person of all the system!"

Nov 2, 2019 12:42 AM

#136

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Rob7 said:
I'm actually happy that they decided reveal all the boring RIDICULOUS NOSENSE BACKGROUND behind the plot soon in the 3rd episode, so now the series can focus on baddass action, fights, rape, love triangle and the other things SAO is well knowed for.

Sure that in the 5th episode nobody will remember or cares about how stupid is the plot about "bad americans who use sunglasses at night stealing an anti-ethical tecnology - made for people fool enough to protect it in a base isolated in the sea and easily acessed for home-submarine - about awkward AI explanation and contraditory premisses since even in the previous season there was lots of "fuructolaitos" with normal human willing to fight and kill as a soldier, and now there is even more, probably being Alice itself the least homicidal person of all the system!"

nope the info dump continues until the end of cour. Next episode is gonna be a controversial one so expect some SJW in the episode thread. The next cour is the fights.

Nov 2, 2019 12:45 AM

#137

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Please don't shoehorn everyone else in. Asuna, sure, that's been built up to, but I don't want to see some bullshit about Yui making backdoor to bring the rest over or something.

Nov 3, 2019 2:45 AM

#138

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Mercenaries trained on Virtual Reality? Someone's been playing MGS2 lol

Text on screen clearly says "EMPEROR VECTOR"
Subtitles: "Emperor Vecta"
Goddamn amateurs.

Nov 3, 2019 9:29 AM

#139

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Great episode but I don't like that they skipped a lot related to how crazy the blond guy is on the inside compared to his calm outer self

Nov 5, 2019 7:23 AM

#140

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You dun fucked up Higa lol.
That scene for Sinon was pretty fucked up, spare me with the Engrish though...
Lipia is top waifu and even a proposal damn wasn't expecting that. No way this will end well with those two showing up...so much for making peace.

Nov 9, 2019 5:15 PM

#141

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The real villains of SAO are not Quinella or Gabriel, are the anti-ethics around all the science-technology there:

While Kirito sacrificed so much to protect 80.000 fluctlights "souls" from Quinela, his pals on the other side was prepared to kill and erase everyone since from start, no matter the result of the Load Test if Alice was not found.

Nov 13, 2019 7:43 AM

#142

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Damn, Gabriel is so evil and hot, my kind of guy 💕💕

Can't wait to see Asuna in Underworld.

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Jan 3, 2020 12:19 PM

#143

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It weird to watch two separate timelines, one with clear time pressure of 24 hours and second where we have 1000 times more time to see politics of two empires fighting each other, both at same time.

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Feb 14, 2020 8:04 PM

#144

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I really miss Quinella.

Mar 15, 2020 12:03 PM

#145

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So important accounts are left unprotected? Sure. Definitely not an obvious plot device.

Of course, the one guy has doubts but decides not to voice them. The island turtle is under attack and knowledge is vital but let's not voice our doubts. It definitely won't come back to bite them in the ass later...

Apr 11, 2020 6:37 PM

#146

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As much as Peace sounds good, nah fight to the death, but let alice live lol.

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Jun 2, 2020 2:52 PM

#147

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Both the bad guys and Asuna are diving in
Lots of new characters introduced at once
I look forward to the next episode

Jul 3, 2020 12:35 AM

#148

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I thought the dark territory was going to be a lawless land, it looks like they have their own monarchy systems and also human-looking people, some of them are even considering peace. Maybe there is hope.

I hope the others don't join in the Underworld, God it would destroy every little common sense Alicization setup. Let it be just Asuna, please.

Aug 7, 2020 5:41 PM

#149

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I didn't think the dark territory also had regular humans as well. At least it's not black and white there either. How convenient that the accounts the bad guys will use is probably the literal emperor and his dark knight :'D Oh well.
I hope Asuna gets some power boost too to help out against these, but they are gonna win anyway.
The actual villains are kina lame so far, seemingly just random american militaristic people. Quinella seemed a bit more interesting, but I guess we might still get some backstory for them.

Sep 19, 2020 4:40 AM

#150

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Yeaa Gabriel and Vassago has dived in ,
we got some intro's from dark territory side. At least one with the good will. Shasta & Lipia ("Bercoulli & Fanatio version of dark territory XD)

Can't wait to see Asuna to dive in with "godly" account too :3.

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