That Time I got Reincarnated as a Slime
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Feb 11, 2019 7:24 AM
#1
THIS IS AN ANIME ONLY DISCUSSION POST. DO NOT DISCUSS THE MANGA BEYOND THIS EPISODE. ---------------------------------------- Holy crap, the orc managed to hold onto one megalodon. Good seeing Gabiru is of some use now. Milim showing puppy eye to Rimuru wanting to fight but it's useless lol. Charybdis proved to be too much for everyone. Great Sage wanted to say something but got denied lol. Charybdis scales were far too OP but Rimuru managed to eat all the scales in one go with the gluttony skill. As expected from Verudora's "offspring". Milim's turn to 1 vs 1 Charybdis and managed to take down Charybdis in one hit even after holding back lol, damn, she's really OP. Milim's effort was not recognized by Gazeru's men lol. Now tear, footman and laplace were found out by Rimuru. Now Carrion showed up in front of Rimuru and get favor from Carrion. Looks like Carrion is a nice man overall. |
「友達なんていない。人はすぐに裏切るし、学校っていうのは誰かを標的にしないとやってられない馬鹿共の集 まり。ままごとみたいな役決めて、仲のいいふりして都合が悪くなったら知らんぷり。そんな奴らと仲良くした いとか全然思わない。」 |
Feb 11, 2019 7:24 AM
#2
Welp, shit got real fast this episode. Charybdis is no joke and may be one of the biggest obstacle Rimuru and the others faced so far. As expected. a huge battle happens and Rimuru once again shows what he can really do. Kinda felt like he carried the battle though. Rimuru's wings are also badass if you ask me. At least we got to see some Milim in action and her powers is pretty badass too. |
Feb 11, 2019 8:15 AM
#3
When your enemy is more OP than you, but your friend is a lot more OP than your enemy, LOL |
Feb 11, 2019 8:52 AM
#4
If I remember correctly rimiuru battled it for like 22 hours and still not a scratch then he hears a voice says milim name then she comes in and one shots it. This mini arc was pretty much shoehorned into the Light novel to fix a few pacing issues I guess as it wasn't in the WN |
Mattinator95Feb 11, 2019 8:58 AM
Feb 11, 2019 8:57 AM
#5
Mattinator95 said: If I remember correctly rimiuru battled it for like 22 hours and still not a scratch then he hears a voice says milim name then she comes in and one shots it. That would be 10 hours in manga From morning to dawn |
Feb 11, 2019 8:57 AM
#6
re:zero's white whale was such a cool set piece. charybdis is arguably a stronger opponent, but this battle looks like such garbage in comparison. |
Feb 11, 2019 8:59 AM
#7
For the people who keep saying this despite the fact that in the OP it is clearly seen that he fights at the same level as another character, as well as when another character is more powerful than the protagonist, nobody questions anything or wonders why this is so strong, like Naruto No one questions how an old man like Onoki can be so powerful. |
Feb 11, 2019 9:03 AM
#8
another episode, another chance to see milim doing cute things <3 |
Feb 11, 2019 9:08 AM
#9
I used to enjoy this until 12 episode but now I am not enjoying this that much. |
Feb 11, 2019 9:13 AM
#10
Such a bs fight... They said that Charybdis was as strong as a Demon Lord (or at least very close to one), but he just got one shotted. Ooooookay duuude... |
Feb 11, 2019 9:19 AM
#11
MattUzumaki said: Such a bs fight... They said that Charybdis was as strong as a Demon Lord (or at least very close to one), but he just got one shotted. Ooooookay duuude... He got one shotted by a more powerful Demon Lord |
Feb 11, 2019 9:30 AM
#12
bitchassdarius said: re:zero's white whale was such a cool set piece. charybdis is arguably a stronger opponent, but this battle looks like such garbage in comparison. The white whale battle only look cool bcoz they get free hits on it, against Charybdis however there's a lot of factors, Charybdis has a ton defense and arsenal like, magic jamming, megalodon, homing scales, laser beams and mind you in the manga Rimuru and the others took 10 hours fighting it and Charybdis still has barely any scratches |
LairucremFeb 11, 2019 9:46 AM
"Reality is just a shitty game." - Katsuragi Keima (TWGOK) "This world is just a shitty game." - Sora and Shiro (NGNL) "Real life is just a shitty game." - Serinuma Kae (KHNM) |
Feb 11, 2019 9:34 AM
#13
MattUzumaki said: Such a bs fight... They said that Charybdis was as strong as a Demon Lord (or at least very close to one), but he just got one shotted. Ooooookay duuude... Hmm Milim isn't a normal demon lord tho... Carybdis is Calamity Demon Lord is Disaster Milim is Catastrophe The threat rank go like this Catastrophe >>>>>>>>>>>> Disaster >>>> Calamity >> hazard It should be explained by King Gazel but that is cut content current Rimuru alone is Calamity but Tempest as a whole is Disaster according to the very same King Gazel and Veldora is Catastrophe Disaster is something that can be defense against but Catastrophe is different matters |
mickbisFeb 11, 2019 9:38 AM
Feb 11, 2019 9:42 AM
#14
Feb 11, 2019 9:54 AM
#15
I was sad when they didnt explain auto-battle mode when Rimuru fought Orc Disaster,and now again they didnt explain where Gluttony Skill came from, kinda worried that they are rushing too much(given the next ep name),dont really understand why are they cutting soo much episode material.....But in the end the episode was still great :D |
well that's just my opinion..... |
Feb 11, 2019 9:57 AM
#16
Next up would be Rimuru's victory lap of travelling. Then the kids and Ramiris, ep. 22-23 will be Hiinata battle most likely |
Feb 11, 2019 10:02 AM
#17
There is no tension, but that's to be expected since milim is a demon Lord, can't wait for Hinata vs rimuru though I hope it won't be a one sided battle |
Feb 11, 2019 10:02 AM
#18
Lairucrem said: bitchassdarius said: re:zero's white whale was such a cool set piece. charybdis is arguably a stronger opponent, but this battle looks like such garbage in comparison. The white whale battle only look cool bcoz they get free hits on it, against Charybdis however there's a lot of factors, Charybdis has a ton defense and arsenal like, magic jamming, megalodon, homing scales, laser beams and mind you in the manga Rimuru and the others took 10 hours fighting it and Charybdis still has barely any scratches the white whale battle looks cool because you get a real sense of danger, and there's actual purpose behind the battle. charybdis is just another enemy that doesn't matter in the slightest, tensura is devoid of dramatictension, which makes all battles effectively meaningless. none of charybdis's stats matter, nor did the fact that rimuru took however long to fight it, because it got one shot by milim and the end result was that rimuru forged another alliance with a demon lord. that's not new ground or interesting, it's essentially the same thing as fighting the orc lord except less exciting. |
bitchassdariusFeb 11, 2019 10:07 AM
Feb 11, 2019 10:05 AM
#19
even in the light novel charybdis was a short fight anyway. I still hope tensura gets renewed for s2 |
Feb 11, 2019 10:11 AM
#20
Lairucrem said: bitchassdarius said: re:zero's white whale was such a cool set piece. charybdis is arguably a stronger opponent, but this battle looks like such garbage in comparison. The white whale battle only look cool bcoz they get free hits on it, against Charybdis however there's a lot of factors, Charybdis has a ton defense and arsenal like, magic jamming, megalodon, homing scales, laser beams and mind you in the manga Rimuru and the others took 10 hours fighting it and Charybdis still has barely any scratches the white whale battle looks cool because you get a real sense of danger, and there's actual purpose behind the battle. charybdis is just another enemy that doesn't matter in the slightest, tensura is devoid of dramatictension, which makes all battles effectively meaningless. It has the main intention of showing you the difference of power of the characters, Rimuru was all day with the black lightning trying to scratch charibdys and Milim appears and this ends immediately with an attack. Do you understand the joke? |
Feb 11, 2019 10:13 AM
#21
hahaha, I can not believe it, Milim defeated Charybdis in a single attack xD. |
Feb 11, 2019 10:35 AM
#22
bitchassdarius said: Lairucrem said: bitchassdarius said: re:zero's white whale was such a cool set piece. charybdis is arguably a stronger opponent, but this battle looks like such garbage in comparison. The white whale battle only look cool bcoz they get free hits on it, against Charybdis however there's a lot of factors, Charybdis has a ton defense and arsenal like, magic jamming, megalodon, homing scales, laser beams and mind you in the manga Rimuru and the others took 10 hours fighting it and Charybdis still has barely any scratches the white whale battle looks cool because you get a real sense of danger, and there's actual purpose behind the battle. charybdis is just another enemy that doesn't matter in the slightest, tensura is devoid of dramatictension, which makes all battles effectively meaningless. none of charybdis's stats matter, nor did the fact that rimuru took however long to fight it, because it got one shot by milim and the end result was that rimuru forged another alliance with a demon lord. that's not new ground or interesting, it's essentially the same thing as fighting the orc lord except less exciting. "the white whale battle looks cool because you get a real sense of danger" huh? PFTTT😂 cool my Ass , danger my Ass . You definitely missed the part where Barusu can easily push [RESTART BUTTON] in ease( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°) the protagonist is literally Immortal No Matter what lol |
Lab_Rat_0978Feb 11, 2019 10:49 AM
Feb 11, 2019 10:40 AM
#23
MattUzumaki said: Such a bs fight... They said that Charybdis was as strong as a Demon Lord (or at least very close to one), but he just got one shotted. Ooooookay duuude... in the manga she also one shotted him. Millim is feared even among the demon lords because of her short temper and her immense power. None of them can even compare to her. They are just lucky she is carefree and just wants to have fun rather than dominate everyone. |
Feb 11, 2019 10:49 AM
#24
Oh wow, the animation quality was astonishingly bad in the figh sequences. Copy-pasted pegasus knights with static horses, unimpactful beam attacks, and bad blend of 3D and 2D animation. I even thought: "Ehhm, why am watching this show, again?" And the plot of the last few episods was quite boring and "techincal": a dumb revenge-driven character got tricked into fusing with a power that he cannot control and attacks the protagost's village. It could've been taken care of in a minute if for some stupid reason the protagonsit's retainers did not forbid the 3rd party's intervention. So, the villagers take the defense in their hands. Of course, some extra weak threats are being supplied along with the OP anatagonsit to let the side characters shine for a few cuts. Our protagonist give the big baddy a try but conveniently realizes that he can use the OP 3rd party after all to finish this one off. So, out of nowhere we get a big threat that is convenietly difused. |
cyber-brainFeb 11, 2019 10:54 AM
Feb 11, 2019 10:56 AM
#25
Since people seem to miss this throughout the internet, I thought I'd mention it here: The reason why Rimuru can act relatively at ease about Charybdis before knowing that it's Fabio, is because Charybdis isn't really a threat to Rimuru himself personally. We saw Charybdis' attacks: Scales - useless because they'll just get Gluttonied by Rimuru (and as we know since Gelmud, projectile attacks are generally useless against Rimuru), not to mention Rimuru possess physical attack resistence, so even if some scales somehow pass through Gluttony, it would not do much damage anyway. Eye-Laser - only usable from the front and even if it hits it only causes minor injuries at most, since Heat-based attacks aren't effective against Rimuru, moreover Rimuru got the same Ultraspeed Regeneration as Charybdis and still has more than enough Full Potions left for himself So it's really a situation where neither side really has a method to break through the opponent's defense. Rimuru's magic attacks get mitigated by magic jamming while Charybdis attacks get countered by Gluttony and Rimuru's resistances. They are at a stalemate. The only differences are that Rimuru cares for his subordinates, allies and the nearby capital city, so he wants to prevent Charybdis from going any further. On the other hand Rimuru got Great Sage so after she collects enough information she might come up with a plan. Of course all that consideration goes up in smoke once Forbio started showing himself from within Charybdis and it turned into Milims responsibility instead. At that point there is no problem in asking Milim to take care of it, since it's no longer about "asking Milim to deal with Tempest's problem", but rather "asking Milim to clean up the mess she caused herself". mickbis said: The threat rank go like this Catastrophe >>>>>>>>>>>> Disaster >>>> Calamity >> hazard It should be explained by King Gazel but that is cut content Actually the range for "Disaster" is so incredibly broad that it's laughable. You got, relatively speaking, utter weaklings like Clayman, Carrion and Frey on the same level as True Heroes and True Demon Lords, who are also Ultimate Skill holder. It's clear that there is a rank missing between Disaster and Catastrophe. Leon could probably solo Clayman, Frey and Carrion 1on3 by himself with relative ease. |
Feb 11, 2019 11:04 AM
#26
Awesome episode! Charybdis was no joke, they managed to work together to beat sharks, i am glad to see that Gabiru has some use now, Shion mounting Ranga was unespected but interesting! Milim always funny, she doing puppy eyes, but without effect against Rimuru! Rimuru holding Charybdis well, but since Charybdis wanted Milim, he finally let her fight, and wow, she one shotted Charybdis while ohorlding back, Milim overpower! Seems demon lord Carrion is cool, and i am glad that Rimuru won another ally! |
Feb 11, 2019 11:16 AM
#27
This couldve been the perfect ep for a veldora easter egg smh. |
Feb 11, 2019 11:27 AM
#28
Those sharks were rather disappointing. Milim, on the other hand, was as pleasant to the eyes as always. I kinda hoped it will be Rimuru who kills the big bad guy. Tho in the end it seems he still ate some of it? |
Feb 11, 2019 11:28 AM
#29
What a waste of time. In the end, Milim one shotted Charybdis. |
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Feb 11, 2019 11:30 AM
#30
Wadda ya' know. Another episode without any sense of danger or tension. This huge conflict was solved in 2 episodes. Charibdys was nothing more but a huge flying punching bag. And man, the humor doesn't get any better at all. |
Feb 11, 2019 11:40 AM
#31
bitchassdarius said: Lairucrem said: bitchassdarius said: re:zero's white whale was such a cool set piece. charybdis is arguably a stronger opponent, but this battle looks like such garbage in comparison. The white whale battle only look cool bcoz they get free hits on it, against Charybdis however there's a lot of factors, Charybdis has a ton defense and arsenal like, magic jamming, megalodon, homing scales, laser beams and mind you in the manga Rimuru and the others took 10 hours fighting it and Charybdis still has barely any scratches the white whale battle looks cool because you get a real sense of danger, and there's actual purpose behind the battle. charybdis is just another enemy that doesn't matter in the slightest, tensura is devoid of dramatictension, which makes all battles effectively meaningless. none of charybdis's stats matter, nor did the fact that rimuru took however long to fight it, because it got one shot by milim and the end result was that rimuru forged another alliance with a demon lord. that's not new ground or interesting, it's essentially the same thing as fighting the orc lord except less exciting. The world doesn't revolve around Rimuru. That's what's shown here. We knew since last episode that Rimuru wasn't even the target of Charybdis and we got the battle because Rimuru was evaluating his own nation as too high and making too speculative inferences about Charybdis' motives for moving towards Tempest. Heck the reason why Clayman and the clowns even got involved with Charybdis in the first place was due to Frey and Charybdis itself. From the result it's obvious that they couldn't tame Charybdis and Clayman mentioned that he doesn't really care much about Tempest one way or another aside from Laplace's irky feeling, so Clayman's and the clowns motives about throwing out Charybdis are clearly part of the Demon Lord politics. The LN and manga do explain afterwards that Clayman let Charybdis loose through Forbio for the purpose of having it go towards Milim and get obliterated as a favor towards Frey, since she wanted Charybdis gone because it's appearently some sort of natural enemy to her race or something. Forbio also did what he did due to Milim. He himself didn't seem to have any grudge against Rimuru or Tempest at any point. In other words, NO ONE involved with Charybdis targeted Tempest or Rimuru and he was essentially just a random bystander in Demon Lord politics and Forbio's grudge against Milim. This time is different from the Orc Disaster because unlike then where he was simply not known by anyone, this time he got ignored deliberately. It shows how no one even really views him as a "player" in the Demon Lord politics at this point. He is still considered "small fry" that can be ignored. So yes, this arc certainly did have a purpose, which is showing that not only Rimuru has troubles finding out how others view him, but also that Rimuru and Tempest aren't really on the Demon Lord's radar, aside from Carrion (only after the ordeal was over) and Milim who had directly interacted with Rimuru. The fight itself showed that Rimuru also has limitations, which in this case is a lack of decisive attack power that can break through strong defenses, while also showing off Milim's overwhelming might. |
Feb 11, 2019 11:49 AM
#32
I am really liking the teamwork and the many different ways they are taking the Megalodon's down. Ragna is flying? Walking on thin air, he continues to amaze me with another new skill. Milim finally getting called into action, I had a feeling she would eventually. Oh, she just one shot it even with that restraint she was talking it, well they saved Phobio like he wanted to. Good thing they now know about the harlequins, they will continue to cause trouble for everyone. An nap with Carrion is a good result for Rimuru, now to wait for next episode to see what happens next. |
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Feb 11, 2019 11:49 AM
#33
Grey-Zone said: bitchassdarius said: Lairucrem said: bitchassdarius said: re:zero's white whale was such a cool set piece. charybdis is arguably a stronger opponent, but this battle looks like such garbage in comparison. The white whale battle only look cool bcoz they get free hits on it, against Charybdis however there's a lot of factors, Charybdis has a ton defense and arsenal like, magic jamming, megalodon, homing scales, laser beams and mind you in the manga Rimuru and the others took 10 hours fighting it and Charybdis still has barely any scratches the white whale battle looks cool because you get a real sense of danger, and there's actual purpose behind the battle. charybdis is just another enemy that doesn't matter in the slightest, tensura is devoid of dramatictension, which makes all battles effectively meaningless. none of charybdis's stats matter, nor did the fact that rimuru took however long to fight it, because it got one shot by milim and the end result was that rimuru forged another alliance with a demon lord. that's not new ground or interesting, it's essentially the same thing as fighting the orc lord except less exciting. The world doesn't revolve around Rimuru. That's what's shown here. We knew since last episode that Rimuru wasn't even the target of Charybdis and we got the battle because Rimuru was evaluating his own nation as too high and making too speculative inferences about Charybdis' motives for moving towards Tempest. Heck the reason why Clayman and the clowns even got involved with Charybdis in the first place was due to Frey and Charybdis itself. From the result it's obvious that they couldn't tame Charybdis and Clayman mentioned that he doesn't really care much about Tempest one way or another aside from Laplace's irky feeling, so Clayman's and the clowns motives about throwing out Charybdis are clearly part of the Demon Lord politics. The LN and manga do explain afterwards that Clayman let Charybdis loose through Forbio for the purpose of having it go towards Milim and get obliterated as a favor towards Frey, since she wanted Charybdis gone because it's appearently some sort of natural enemy to her race or something. Forbio also did what he did due to Milim. He himself didn't seem to have any grudge against Rimuru or Tempest at any point. In other words, NO ONE involved with Charybdis targeted Tempest or Rimuru and he was essentially just a random bystander in Demon Lord politics and Forbio's grudge against Milim. This time is different from the Orc Disaster because unlike then where he was simply not known by anyone, this time he got ignored deliberately. It shows how no one even really views him as a "player" in the Demon Lord politics at this point. He is still considered "small fry" that can be ignored. So yes, this arc certainly did have a purpose, which is showing that not only Rimuru has troubles finding out how others view him, but also that Rimuru and Tempest aren't really on the Demon Lord's radar, aside from Carrion (only after the ordeal was over) and Milim who had directly interacted with Rimuru. The fight itself showed that Rimuru also has limitations, which in this case is a lack of decisive attack power that can break through strong defenses, while also showing off Milim's overwhelming might. it doesn't matter if the world doesn't revolve around rimuru, the story does. what i'm comparing is the setpiece of charybdis vs the white whale re:zero. no i'm not saying the set up has to be the same, because then i would just be arguing which premise i like better. but the white whale is the climax of re:zero and happens pretty much at the same exact time charybdis happens in this story. this has the makings to be a good setpiece, but it completely flops because nothing interesting ever happens in this show. you could try to argue "well that's not the point of tensura" but then you would just be denying the fact that charybdis is set up to be a calamity, that rimuru couldn't beat it alone, that rimuru had to call in all of his alliances to fight it, that this battle is a culmination of everything rimuru's done so far and this, more or less, is the de facto climax, i.e. you'd be in denial of how the show is actually written. |
Feb 11, 2019 11:49 AM
#34
mickbis said: MattUzumaki said: Such a bs fight... They said that Charybdis was as strong as a Demon Lord (or at least very close to one), but he just got one shotted. Ooooookay duuude... Hmm Milim isn't a normal demon lord tho... Carybdis is Calamity Demon Lord is Disaster Milim is Catastrophe The threat rank go like this Catastrophe >>>>>>>>>>>> Disaster >>>> Calamity >> hazard It should be explained by King Gazel but that is cut content current Rimuru alone is Calamity but Tempest as a whole is Disaster according to the very same King Gazel and Veldora is Catastrophe Disaster is something that can be defense against but Catastrophe is different matters I was just about to ask about power levels, thank you for you post. |
Feb 11, 2019 11:53 AM
#35
Fede_5000 said: bitchassdarius said: Fede_5000 said: nina444 said: bitchassdarius said: nina444 said: bitchassdarius said: Lairucrem said: bitchassdarius said: re:zero's white whale was such a cool set piece. charybdis is arguably a stronger opponent, but this battle looks like such garbage in comparison. The white whale battle only look cool bcoz they get free hits on it, against Charybdis however there's a lot of factors, Charybdis has a ton defense and arsenal like, magic jamming, megalodon, homing scales, laser beams and mind you in the manga Rimuru and the others took 10 hours fighting it and Charybdis still has barely any scratches the white whale battle looks cool because you get a real sense of danger, and there's actual purpose behind the battle. charybdis is just another enemy that doesn't matter in the slightest, tensura is devoid of dramatictension, which makes all battles effectively meaningless. none of charybdis's stats matter, nor did the fact that rimuru took however long to fight it, because it got one shot by milim and the end result was that rimuru forged another alliance with a demon lord. that's not new ground or interesting, it's essentially the same thing as fighting the orc lord except less exciting. "the white whale battle looks cool because you get a real sense of danger" huh? PFTTT😂 cool my Ass , danger my Ass . You definitely missed the part where Barusu can easily [RESTART BUTTON] in ease( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°) the protagonist is literally Immortal No Matter what lol you have no critical thinking skills if you think the existence of a reset button inhibits tension in re:zero. have you ever played a video game before? there's no explanation to the mechanics of the witch's curse, which leads to questions like "when and how is a new save state instated?" or "how many lives do i actually get until the next save state?" what if subaru was resurrected after someone's death? try turning your brain on when you watch a show before you embarrass yourself flaunting your idiocy. so what ? the point is there's no real sense of danger for the protagonist because he's legit Immortal and I could say the same to you , action ain't tensura main theme . this is not battle shonen anime the tension in re:zero doesn't come from the possibility of subaru dying but from the possibility of the people he cares about dying. if you didn't understand this, don't ever bother posting again, your opinion is worthless since you're clearly too dull to comprehend an incredibly simple show. Yes, he had to watch them die several times, after several episodes, he would have a crisis, but only once and then nothing would become routine for him ¯\_(ツ)_/¯ what exactly are you trying to imply here? that watching your friends die repeatedly would get boring and routine? would you have any proof of this, or are you just talking out of your ass? i can safely assume the latter since that is a fictional situation that has never happened to anyone, so any discussion on how subaru "should act" if re:zero were realistic is too arrogant to understand the basic tenets of fiction. I'm talking about the facts because Subaru saw his friends die several times in grotesque ways, only once he had his crisis and was in bed, but then he does not feel bad again, I call this artificial. that's called a breaking point, he is clearly traumatizes throughout the entire time, just because he didn't have a breakdown after every death doesn't lessen the fact of his trauma. also, his resort to giving up and the whole episode of catharsis with rem is more indicative of trauma than subaru having a mental breakdown. that's not artificial, that's you being pedantic and demanding overdramatic declarations of trauma when there doesn't need to be any, and in fact it's handled and directed more cleverly than that. |
Feb 11, 2019 11:58 AM
#36
Nice Episode. Great Fight Scene. Eventhough i was blaming Rimuru for holding back Milim on the line in such a long time lol. Just a little bit dissatisfied because i think the story seems speeding up now. Beat The Charybdis which possess a body of an underling of Maou Karion, acquire a peace agreement, and one threat dismissed. I'll looking forward for the next ep. |
Feb 11, 2019 11:59 AM
#37
Good episode and I really appreciate that after SAO another "isekai" anime that has more than 12 episodes (this genre really needs it :) because 12 episodes are just too short for isekai since it needs much more than another genres because mostly you need only 4-6 episodes for protagonist to get acquainted with the environment of another world and 6 another episodes are just too short to develop interesting story ) hope it will have much more episodes :) |
Feb 11, 2019 12:00 PM
#38
Feb 11, 2019 12:04 PM
#39
It's like the author had Milim haters self insert themselves into this guy. |
I wish Cowboy Bebop never existed. |
Feb 11, 2019 12:06 PM
#40
Well that ended quicker than I thought it would Rimuru also made a new demon Lord friend |
Feb 11, 2019 12:06 PM
#41
bitchassdarius said: Grey-Zone said: bitchassdarius said: Lairucrem said: bitchassdarius said: re:zero's white whale was such a cool set piece. charybdis is arguably a stronger opponent, but this battle looks like such garbage in comparison. The white whale battle only look cool bcoz they get free hits on it, against Charybdis however there's a lot of factors, Charybdis has a ton defense and arsenal like, magic jamming, megalodon, homing scales, laser beams and mind you in the manga Rimuru and the others took 10 hours fighting it and Charybdis still has barely any scratches the white whale battle looks cool because you get a real sense of danger, and there's actual purpose behind the battle. charybdis is just another enemy that doesn't matter in the slightest, tensura is devoid of dramatictension, which makes all battles effectively meaningless. none of charybdis's stats matter, nor did the fact that rimuru took however long to fight it, because it got one shot by milim and the end result was that rimuru forged another alliance with a demon lord. that's not new ground or interesting, it's essentially the same thing as fighting the orc lord except less exciting. The world doesn't revolve around Rimuru. That's what's shown here. We knew since last episode that Rimuru wasn't even the target of Charybdis and we got the battle because Rimuru was evaluating his own nation as too high and making too speculative inferences about Charybdis' motives for moving towards Tempest. Heck the reason why Clayman and the clowns even got involved with Charybdis in the first place was due to Frey and Charybdis itself. From the result it's obvious that they couldn't tame Charybdis and Clayman mentioned that he doesn't really care much about Tempest one way or another aside from Laplace's irky feeling, so Clayman's and the clowns motives about throwing out Charybdis are clearly part of the Demon Lord politics. The LN and manga do explain afterwards that Clayman let Charybdis loose through Forbio for the purpose of having it go towards Milim and get obliterated as a favor towards Frey, since she wanted Charybdis gone because it's appearently some sort of natural enemy to her race or something. Forbio also did what he did due to Milim. He himself didn't seem to have any grudge against Rimuru or Tempest at any point. In other words, NO ONE involved with Charybdis targeted Tempest or Rimuru and he was essentially just a random bystander in Demon Lord politics and Forbio's grudge against Milim. This time is different from the Orc Disaster because unlike then where he was simply not known by anyone, this time he got ignored deliberately. It shows how no one even really views him as a "player" in the Demon Lord politics at this point. He is still considered "small fry" that can be ignored. So yes, this arc certainly did have a purpose, which is showing that not only Rimuru has troubles finding out how others view him, but also that Rimuru and Tempest aren't really on the Demon Lord's radar, aside from Carrion (only after the ordeal was over) and Milim who had directly interacted with Rimuru. The fight itself showed that Rimuru also has limitations, which in this case is a lack of decisive attack power that can break through strong defenses, while also showing off Milim's overwhelming might. it doesn't matter if the world doesn't revolve around rimuru, the story does. what i'm comparing is the setpiece of charybdis vs the white whale re:zero. no i'm not saying the set up has to be the same, because then i would just be arguing which premise i like better. but the white whale is the climax of re:zero and happens pretty much at the same exact time charybdis happens in this story. this has the makings to be a good setpiece, but it completely flops because nothing interesting ever happens in this show. you could try to argue "well that's not the point of tensura" but then you would just be denying the fact that charybdis is set up to be a calamity, that rimuru couldn't beat it alone, that rimuru had to call in all of his alliances to fight it, that this battle is a culmination of everything rimuru's done so far and this, more or less, is the de facto climax, i.e. you'd be in denial of how the show is actually written. This isn't even close to the climax to the story. Its laughable that you think that we are anywhere close to the end. I would disagree with the comment that the story revolves around only Rimuru. I would say that it revolves around Rimuru and the country of Tempest. We still have yet to get to the true threat Rimuru has to face in this world. |
jaw201Feb 11, 2019 12:09 PM
Feb 11, 2019 12:09 PM
#42
bitchassdarius said: nina444 said: bitchassdarius said: Fede_5000 said: nina444 said: bitchassdarius said: nina444 said: bitchassdarius said: Lairucrem said: bitchassdarius said: re:zero's white whale was such a cool set piece. charybdis is arguably a stronger opponent, but this battle looks like such garbage in comparison. The white whale battle only look cool bcoz they get free hits on it, against Charybdis however there's a lot of factors, Charybdis has a ton defense and arsenal like, magic jamming, megalodon, homing scales, laser beams and mind you in the manga Rimuru and the others took 10 hours fighting it and Charybdis still has barely any scratches the white whale battle looks cool because you get a real sense of danger, and there's actual purpose behind the battle. charybdis is just another enemy that doesn't matter in the slightest, tensura is devoid of dramatictension, which makes all battles effectively meaningless. none of charybdis's stats matter, nor did the fact that rimuru took however long to fight it, because it got one shot by milim and the end result was that rimuru forged another alliance with a demon lord. that's not new ground or interesting, it's essentially the same thing as fighting the orc lord except less exciting. "the white whale battle looks cool because you get a real sense of danger" huh? PFTTT😂 cool my Ass , danger my Ass . You definitely missed the part where Barusu can easily [RESTART BUTTON] in ease( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°) the protagonist is literally Immortal No Matter what lol you have no critical thinking skills if you think the existence of a reset button inhibits tension in re:zero. have you ever played a video game before? there's no explanation to the mechanics of the witch's curse, which leads to questions like "when and how is a new save state instated?" or "how many lives do i actually get until the next save state?" what if subaru was resurrected after someone's death? try turning your brain on when you watch a show before you embarrass yourself flaunting your idiocy. so what ? the point is there's no real sense of danger for the protagonist because he's legit Immortal and I could say the same to you , action ain't tensura main theme . this is not battle shonen anime the tension in re:zero doesn't come from the possibility of subaru dying but from the possibility of the people he cares about dying. if you didn't understand this, don't ever bother posting again, your opinion is worthless since you're clearly too dull to comprehend an incredibly simple show. Yes, he had to watch them die several times, after several episodes, he would have a crisis, but only once and then nothing would become routine for him ¯_(ツ)_/¯ what exactly are you trying to imply here? that watching your friends die repeatedly would get boring and routine? would you have any proof of this, or are you just talking out of your ass? i can safely assume the latter since that is a fictional situation that has never happened to anyone, so any discussion on how subaru "should act" if re:zero were realistic is too arrogant to understand the basic tenets of fiction. yeah yeah , whatever you say smartypants lol take your time , I won't stop you . you can suck Barusu dick as you like there lol typical response from a baby. do you want me to change your diapers now that i'm done feeding you? go throw a tantrum where no one can see you, it's unbecoming. Lol Im surprised of the fact you keep replying regardless of how "you're so called baby" my responses are Lol It speaks a lot for your character Pftt |
Feb 11, 2019 12:11 PM
#43
Fede_5000 said: bitchassdarius said: Fede_5000 said: nina444 said: bitchassdarius said: nina444 said: bitchassdarius said: Lairucrem said: bitchassdarius said: re:zero's white whale was such a cool set piece. charybdis is arguably a stronger opponent, but this battle looks like such garbage in comparison. The white whale battle only look cool bcoz they get free hits on it, against Charybdis however there's a lot of factors, Charybdis has a ton defense and arsenal like, magic jamming, megalodon, homing scales, laser beams and mind you in the manga Rimuru and the others took 10 hours fighting it and Charybdis still has barely any scratches the white whale battle looks cool because you get a real sense of danger, and there's actual purpose behind the battle. charybdis is just another enemy that doesn't matter in the slightest, tensura is devoid of dramatictension, which makes all battles effectively meaningless. none of charybdis's stats matter, nor did the fact that rimuru took however long to fight it, because it got one shot by milim and the end result was that rimuru forged another alliance with a demon lord. that's not new ground or interesting, it's essentially the same thing as fighting the orc lord except less exciting. "the white whale battle looks cool because you get a real sense of danger" huh? PFTTT😂 cool my Ass , danger my Ass . You definitely missed the part where Barusu can easily [RESTART BUTTON] in ease( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°) the protagonist is literally Immortal No Matter what lol you have no critical thinking skills if you think the existence of a reset button inhibits tension in re:zero. have you ever played a video game before? there's no explanation to the mechanics of the witch's curse, which leads to questions like "when and how is a new save state instated?" or "how many lives do i actually get until the next save state?" what if subaru was resurrected after someone's death? try turning your brain on when you watch a show before you embarrass yourself flaunting your idiocy. so what ? the point is there's no real sense of danger for the protagonist because he's legit Immortal and I could say the same to you , action ain't tensura main theme . this is not battle shonen anime the tension in re:zero doesn't come from the possibility of subaru dying but from the possibility of the people he cares about dying. if you didn't understand this, don't ever bother posting again, your opinion is worthless since you're clearly too dull to comprehend an incredibly simple show. Yes, he had to watch them die several times, after several episodes, he would have a crisis, but only once and then nothing would become routine for him ¯\_(ツ)_/¯ what exactly are you trying to imply here? that watching your friends die repeatedly would get boring and routine? would you have any proof of this, or are you just talking out of your ass? i can safely assume the latter since that is a fictional situation that has never happened to anyone, so any discussion on how subaru "should act" if re:zero were realistic is too arrogant to understand the basic tenets of fiction. I'm talking about the facts because Subaru saw his friends die several times in grotesque ways, only once he had his crisis and was in bed, but then he does not feel bad again, I call this artificial. that's called a breaking point, he is clearly traumatizes throughout the entire time, just because he didn't have a breakdown after every death doesn't lessen the fact of his trauma. also, his resort to giving up and the whole episode of catharsis with rem is more indicative of trauma than subaru having a mental breakdown. that's not artificial, that's you being pedantic and demanding overdramatic declarations of trauma when there doesn't need to be any, and in fact it's handled and directed more cleverly than that. And exactly what kind of resources or things do you handle that tell us the "intelligent" of Re:zero when you have a character that goes through so many things from traveling to another world where instead of being cautious still gets into fights for a girl who met a few minutes ago? the only thing I see is that Subaru is a slow-thinking man who needs chekpoints because otherwise he would have died |
Feb 11, 2019 12:18 PM
#44
Fede_5000 said: Fede_5000 said: bitchassdarius said: Fede_5000 said: nina444 said: bitchassdarius said: nina444 said: bitchassdarius said: Lairucrem said: bitchassdarius said: re:zero's white whale was such a cool set piece. charybdis is arguably a stronger opponent, but this battle looks like such garbage in comparison. The white whale battle only look cool bcoz they get free hits on it, against Charybdis however there's a lot of factors, Charybdis has a ton defense and arsenal like, magic jamming, megalodon, homing scales, laser beams and mind you in the manga Rimuru and the others took 10 hours fighting it and Charybdis still has barely any scratches the white whale battle looks cool because you get a real sense of danger, and there's actual purpose behind the battle. charybdis is just another enemy that doesn't matter in the slightest, tensura is devoid of dramatictension, which makes all battles effectively meaningless. none of charybdis's stats matter, nor did the fact that rimuru took however long to fight it, because it got one shot by milim and the end result was that rimuru forged another alliance with a demon lord. that's not new ground or interesting, it's essentially the same thing as fighting the orc lord except less exciting. "the white whale battle looks cool because you get a real sense of danger" huh? PFTTT😂 cool my Ass , danger my Ass . You definitely missed the part where Barusu can easily [RESTART BUTTON] in ease( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°) the protagonist is literally Immortal No Matter what lol you have no critical thinking skills if you think the existence of a reset button inhibits tension in re:zero. have you ever played a video game before? there's no explanation to the mechanics of the witch's curse, which leads to questions like "when and how is a new save state instated?" or "how many lives do i actually get until the next save state?" what if subaru was resurrected after someone's death? try turning your brain on when you watch a show before you embarrass yourself flaunting your idiocy. so what ? the point is there's no real sense of danger for the protagonist because he's legit Immortal and I could say the same to you , action ain't tensura main theme . this is not battle shonen anime the tension in re:zero doesn't come from the possibility of subaru dying but from the possibility of the people he cares about dying. if you didn't understand this, don't ever bother posting again, your opinion is worthless since you're clearly too dull to comprehend an incredibly simple show. Yes, he had to watch them die several times, after several episodes, he would have a crisis, but only once and then nothing would become routine for him ¯\_(ツ)_/¯ what exactly are you trying to imply here? that watching your friends die repeatedly would get boring and routine? would you have any proof of this, or are you just talking out of your ass? i can safely assume the latter since that is a fictional situation that has never happened to anyone, so any discussion on how subaru "should act" if re:zero were realistic is too arrogant to understand the basic tenets of fiction. I'm talking about the facts because Subaru saw his friends die several times in grotesque ways, only once he had his crisis and was in bed, but then he does not feel bad again, I call this artificial. that's called a breaking point, he is clearly traumatizes throughout the entire time, just because he didn't have a breakdown after every death doesn't lessen the fact of his trauma. also, his resort to giving up and the whole episode of catharsis with rem is more indicative of trauma than subaru having a mental breakdown. that's not artificial, that's you being pedantic and demanding overdramatic declarations of trauma when there doesn't need to be any, and in fact it's handled and directed more cleverly than that. And exactly what kind of resources or things do you handle that tell us the "intelligent" of Re:zero when you have a character that goes through so many things from traveling to another world where instead of being cautious still gets into fights for a girl who met a few minutes ago? the only thing I see is that Subaru is a slow-thinking man who needs chekpoints because otherwise he would have died in the beginning of the story , after barusu got transported to another world he didn't even question about it . why? lol not to mention , it literally took this man countless deaths just to realize he has [return by death] ability . for fck sake tracer! lol |
Feb 11, 2019 12:18 PM
#45
bitchassdarius said: nina444 said: bitchassdarius said: nina444 said: bitchassdarius said: nina444 said: bitchassdarius said: Lairucrem said: bitchassdarius said: re:zero's white whale was such a cool set piece. charybdis is arguably a stronger opponent, but this battle looks like such garbage in comparison. The white whale battle only look cool bcoz they get free hits on it, against Charybdis however there's a lot of factors, Charybdis has a ton defense and arsenal like, magic jamming, megalodon, homing scales, laser beams and mind you in the manga Rimuru and the others took 10 hours fighting it and Charybdis still has barely any scratches the white whale battle looks cool because you get a real sense of danger, and there's actual purpose behind the battle. charybdis is just another enemy that doesn't matter in the slightest, tensura is devoid of dramatictension, which makes all battles effectively meaningless. none of charybdis's stats matter, nor did the fact that rimuru took however long to fight it, because it got one shot by milim and the end result was that rimuru forged another alliance with a demon lord. that's not new ground or interesting, it's essentially the same thing as fighting the orc lord except less exciting. "the white whale battle looks cool because you get a real sense of danger" huh? PFTTT😂 cool my Ass , danger my Ass . You definitely missed the part where Barusu can easily [RESTART BUTTON] in ease( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°) the protagonist is literally Immortal No Matter what lol you have no critical thinking skills if you think the existence of a reset button inhibits tension in re:zero. have you ever played a video game before? there's no explanation to the mechanics of the witch's curse, which leads to questions like "when and how is a new save state instated?" or "how many lives do i actually get until the next save state?" what if subaru was resurrected after someone's death? try turning your brain on when you watch a show before you embarrass yourself flaunting your idiocy. so what ? the point is there's no real sense of danger for the protagonist because he's legit Immortal and I could say the same to you , action ain't tensura main theme . this is not battle shonen anime the tension in re:zero doesn't come from the possibility of subaru dying but from the possibility of the people he cares about dying. if you didn't understand this, don't ever bother posting again, your opinion is worthless since you're clearly too dull to comprehend an incredibly simple show. 😂 You said my opinion is Worthless even tho You're clearly failed to grasp the meaning behind the battle against charybdis yourself huh?😂 Ok whatever you say son , you win Lol charybdis is even less of an important enemy because no one has any tragic history with charybdis, the audience and rimuru is just simply told "this guy is really tough." it's only relevance is that it was born from veldora, which just indicates it's conquerable and not really an enemy per se. defeating charybdis and the orc lord led to the same result, i.e. forming new allegiances, but charybdis is narratively less important than the orc lord, who actually inflicted trauma on rimuru's courtiers. it just happened to be "more powerful." of course you don't understand any of this yourself because you lack a working brain. keep using emojis to mask your lack of intelligence, no ones buying it. let me make a suggestion for you: try expanding your reading material of just shitty "deep-fried" instagram memes, your own texts, and corny manga to actual books. maybe that desert of a brain will be able to absorb some amount of knowledge charybdis was pretty much just shoehorned into the light novel just to fill a few pages and fix a few pacing issue the web novel had . I still don't know what the point of it was apart from getting a favor from a demon Lord and showing the power scale of the series. But it seems they cut quite alot the build up for charybdis as fray ( one of the Demon Lords ) as a history with it . Was it even explained why it was sealed in the first place |
Mattinator95Feb 11, 2019 12:26 PM
Feb 11, 2019 12:20 PM
#46
Tzzzzzzzzzzz next ep is that bastard yuki on screen, that boss take every arc from now on.......zzzzzz |
Feb 11, 2019 12:20 PM
#47
Nurguburu said: What a waste of time. In the end, Milim one shotted Charybdis. The battles were never the series main focus anyway |
Feb 11, 2019 12:23 PM
#48
Kimurah said: Wadda ya' know. Another episode without any sense of danger or tension. This huge conflict was solved in 2 episodes. Charibdys was nothing more but a huge flying punching bag. And man, the humor doesn't get any better at all. Why would a non battle focused show need danger or tension |
Feb 11, 2019 12:25 PM
#49
Feb 11, 2019 12:26 PM
#50
Amazing episode, i was on the edge of my seat the whole fight. (lol) Seriously, the only good thing about this episode was Milim. I like her character. I really enjoyed the earlier episodes of the show but... There is no tension in the fights because there is no danger. The story hasn't been interesting for a while now. They just keep getting allies and all conflicts are quickly resolved. The comedy has been lacking, there are just too many characters that are not that interesting, like that new demon lord at the end of the episode (forgot his name already) Hopefully it gets better soon for the last few episodes. |
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