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| THIS IS AN ANIME ONLY DISCUSSION POST. DO NOT DISCUSS THE MANGA BEYOND THIS EPISODE. ---------------------------------------- Nice action this episode. I love episodes when we get Favaro fighting and this one had that. Seems like that their opponent are a lot tough than they appear though.. Glad to see Nina and Jeanne reunite. I feel like they've become really good friends now. Also impressed by Sofiel's work on the surface world. I had mixed feelings about her character role this season but she has impressed me so far. |
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| That ending was so stupid. Yes, lets have a character who nobody likes except the writer and has been insufferable since his first appearance supposedly kill one of the few new characters that people liked and then have him run away like a little rat. The worst part is because he's one the writer's favorite character so nothing bad will happen to him, just like Charioce. I can't believe how much of a disappointment Virgin Soul turned out to be. I'm just going to treat this sequel like I do Eureka Seven: AO and pretend it doesn't exist. |
Stark700 said: I feel like they've become really good friends now. Yes Nina is such a good friend! Wanting to fuck the man who tried to murder/torture Jeanne and her son. |
| That post credits scene pissed me the fuck off.....This guy has always been a piece of shit and now I want his head on a fucking plate Anyway, apart from that this episode was great and I honestly did not expect that bounty hunter guy to be a half dragon too....Seeing Sofiel and Azazel team up on him was awesome and he got REKT HARD and I loved it Nina and her feelings are still annoying but I enjoyed the other bits of dialogue in this episode.....But if Mugaro is dead I'm gonna be beyond pissed (Especially if they blame Azazel for it) |
| Ugh, I knew the writers were trying so hard to make that annoying ass side character soldier relevant. I couldn't put my finger on it.. until that last scene. Yep. He's trash. |
 Three things cannot be long hidden.. ...the s u n, the m oo n, and the tr u th. |
Fipse said: Stark700 said: I feel like they've become really good friends now. Yes Nina is such a good friend! Wanting to fuck the man who tried to murder/torture Jeanne and her son. Lmao, when you put it like that.. you're right. |
Three things cannot be long hidden.. ...the s u n, the m oo n, and the tr u th. |
| Fuck Alessand. Fuck Alessand. Fuck Alessand. Fuck Alessand. Fuck Alessand. |
| Wasn't expecting the assassin to be a dragon too and such a big one on top, despite that he sadly didn't last long,but the fight was still pretty tense. Poor Nina,tho, hope she doesn't have to suffer for much longer. Mugaro, Azazel moment was pretty nice again... but holy fucking shit, the post ending scene,WTAF ? Want to see the next right now! |
One Piece episode 914 & 915 & 1027 were a mistake and 957 brought the salvation - FMmatron |
| nice to see Godess Sofiel being badass there, i like her a lot but damn Mugaro dead? i hope not, fuck Alessand |
| Great episode! We had pretty much the entire cast here. Also after 20 episodes it finally happened! We had Almira back! If only in a flashback for 0.5 seconds.. But she was there! I really wonder how Jeanny feels about Mugaro/El beeing best friends with Azazel. They tried to kill each other in season 1 and now he looked after her child. The after credit scene left me speechless. I did not expect him to turn full traitor like this after meeting with Jeanne. I expected him to maybe report them all but not this. |
| "This emotion is mine alone. It is for Madoka alone." - Homura or how I would descripe Mahou Shoujo Madoka Magica. |
| theory: Sofiel=Amira |
| Omg, wtf happened in the end.... o.o can't believe they just showed that. Wasn't expecting that sh*t at all! You stupid Alessand, knew you were fishy and untrustworthy from the beginning! Such a low blow D: That Amira flashback.... :'/ Poor Nina, hope she'll recover fast even though she's pretty traumatized by their relantionship... wonder who'll pick up her necklace! Glad Favaro's being so attentive to her |
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| So Nina has finally realise that Charioce is a massive twat. A better episode this week with some good action, the writing has been pretty poor the second half of the season and Alessand stabbing Mugaro does nothing to change that. |
| What the fuck was with that post credit scene. Alessand can go fuck himself. As the next episode title states, there needs to be vengeance. Nice episode. Wasn't expecting it to that good. I liked the way Sofiel and Azazel teamed up and took down that demon dragon. But poor Nina I feel so bad for her now. |
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| Pretty good action in this episode. Azazel and Sofiel can make a great duo. They defeated the assassin wonderfully. I didn't expect him to be a dragon. Mugaro saying goodbye to Azazel was sad. It was shocking to see Alessand stab Mugaro. I hate him now for that. I hope Mugaro doesn't die. I will be furious. |
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Sakonke5 said: theory: Sofiel=Amira That literally makes no sense though. On the topic of Amira, with these flashbacks we are getting of her and Bahamut's inevitable return, I expect we might see her soon. The chance of her and Favaro reuniting is the one of the few reasons why I haven't dropped this garbage yet. |
| I never understood why the fuck would Nina love the king. That guy tried to kill her, murder, humiliate and torment her friend. Tried to kill Janne s kid abd imprisoned her for years. It count pretty much as a betrayal to her friends. |
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| Welp...it's always the fuckboy that gets to have his plot device moment in the spotlight and given how things are set up...Azazel is gonna get blamed for it. Why do writers always resort to the same bs approach with this? |
| Don't believe the hype. |
RaidenHUN said: I never understood why the fuck would Nina love the king. That guy tried to kill her, murder, humiliate and torment her friend. Tried to kill Janne s kid abd imprisoned her for years. It count pretty much as a betrayal to her friends. love is blind especially when you are a teenager lol |
| Mugaro-chan doesn't deserve Alessand's bullshit :') |
| It's good that they finally address the fact that Nina isn't the only dragon-shifter and she's a half-blood. But other than that a lot of disappointing developments again. There's a severe case of power imbalace/fantasy pandering in the cast. What I mean that on the one side we have relatively normal people who work (plan, execute, pay for it) and do their best to the extent that they are dying from weird magic, and on the other side we have top gods, a top demon, a chosen child, a saint, a mage zombie and a half-dragon (+ two heroes, but that's ok), basically the most powerful beings in their universe, who, for the most part, were born that way - and I am supposed to see the second party as underdogs and root for them. Not only it is difficult for me to hate the black soldiers, but the king has never shown any fighting abilities and the black soldiers have been beaten on-screen for all the second half of the anime, so they feel like desperate instead of a threat. They have never been able to suppress Nina on their own, for example. It's not fun to see them beaten anymore. Think about it - there hasn't been any decent antagonists until the demon dragon. The king is a love interest and he just stands still all the time, the black captain hasn't demonstrated any skills higher than average and that's all on the Charioce's side. Onyx soldiers had a few cool moments, but it was in the first half, when the show still had promise. There aren't any named human army mages, for example, despite their cool skirts. And the demon dragon got frozen right away (tho maybe he'll defrost), but he is a paid muscle and his design isn't that of a proper antagonist in anime. What's with the black knight lying to Charioce? Is this supposed to be a betrayal to make it easier to discard him in the end (which should be done because he's not a genki teenage girl, obviously)? I also wonder why the king can't communicate with his right hand man for shit... Like, couldn't he say that he wants to have a bit of fun before dying and kill the girl later, so that they will get off her for a while and then with Dromos nobody will have time anyway? And I don't want even to get started on Alessand. Ok, maybe we will get to the overarching story surrounding the holy child or anything on the part of humans finally, but Alessand is a barely a character, why him? The writing is not great at all. Also I don't believe that Mugaro will really die, he is important for sales and shipping. I am not liking the scene with the abandoned necklace too. Nina seems to not connect the fact that she was with the party that tried to chop off her love's hand or her participation in the parade terror act with the cold shower she got |
deadoptimistSep 1, 2017 1:49 PM
| Second half of the series has been pretty disappointing to be honest. That bit at the end came out of nowhere. |
| "Perhaps there is a universal, absolute truth. Perhaps it justifies every question. But that's beyond the reach of these small hands." Mamoru Oshii There is a cult of ignorance (...) nurtured by the false notion that democracy means that “my ignorance is just as good as your knowledge.” Isaac Asimov |
| Noooooooo, my baby El! (╥_╥) How dare he do that to him!(ノಠ益ಠ)ノ彡┻━┻ I was hoping for some butt kicking, I'm kinda disappointed. |
| Local man Alessand ruins everything... |
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| Sofiel and Azazel teaming up against the giant dragon dude was pretty cool. Nina seems to be going through a range of emotions in this episode. That final scene seemed like it just came out of nowhere though. Maybe this is some way to try and make Alessand seem relevant to the story but for now I see no point in this development. Also, one more minor nitpick that I had with that part was that they didn't even produce a legit stabbing noise when El got stabbed, for some reason that bothered me a bit. |
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WhatsAName said: Well a character that everyone has been ambivalent towards suddenly becomes the object of hate. They say hate is a stronger feeling than love, or stronger than indifference anyway. I haven't heard anyone say that Alessand is the author's favorite character (I can't really believe that with how little screentime he has had until this moment), but let's go with that. Contrary to many people here, I find something in the author's writing. Whether it's good or bad I don't know. But if you look at the Nina's heartbreak, Mugaro's difficult childhood, Jeanne all those years in prison, and the death of Azazel's friends for example, then the writer is certainly not merciful. As a 'favorite', Alessand will get the most punishing death? Which would be great. He's not going to be redeemed, rest assured about that. It is possible to look at this show and how it portrays different forms of love and the consequences thereof: the romanticness and heartbreak of young love, the selflessness and loss of mother-child love, the timeless bromance, the different supportive friendships, and then the obsessive love of Alessand and the consequence of death. Even 'Virgin' in 'Virgin Soul' has implications of love, and Jeanne herself has a holy and devoted 'virgin' spirit in her which is about to be broken once she learns that her child is (presumably) 'dead', and I believe the 'vengeance' in the title of the next episode refers to her's. And/or there could be a shift of focus from diff forms of love to all the characters' quests for their own vengeance. Anyway, the ending was shit, but now all that's left is to see how the writer/s run/s with this. I said this in a different episode thread, but I predicted Jeanne would be the next King in response to someone saying she was useless throughout the show. And judging by your observation of this season's title, it could be a possibility. If not, then it ties into her greatly somehow. |
Three things cannot be long hidden.. ...the s u n, the m oo n, and the tr u th. |
SegmentZ said: GreenEmu said: That ending was so stupid. Yes, lets have a character who nobody likes except the writer and has been insufferable since his first appearance supposedly kill one of the few new characters that people liked and then have him run away like a little rat. The worst part is because he's one the writer's favorite character so nothing bad will happen to him, just like Charioce. I can't believe how much of a disappointment Virgin Soul turned out to be. I'm just going to treat this sequel like I do Eureka Seven: AO and pretend it doesn't exist. RIGHT character who was nothing but generic had literally nothing bad or good in him, just existing as a side character that randomly shows up, suddenly goes full psychopath and kills a kid like it's just another monday for him, i can feel the ratings drop already Actually his actions were not out of the blue in any way, also, I don't see what makes you think he is the creators favorite character, or that he won't get his just deserts at the end. The show isn't over yet, and with how the tone for the last season was, or even the first half of this season, I don't see why you thought at least one of the protagonist wouldn't die. First, since his side character debute, it was shown he was a douche bag who messed off, wanted to do very little work and get rewarded for nothing, and to move up in status. Since he can't be capitain of the Orleans Knights, he wants to move up in status and join the black knights. As usual, instead of working his way up, he wants to take the easy way, that being killing the Holy Child that the black knights have been hunting down for a few years now. He thinks by killing Muguro, there is no way the black knights won't let him join. Its not psycho, but it is, evil, cold, heartless, selfish, and shameful. |
Tsukumo_YumaSep 1, 2017 5:42 PM
| Much better episode this time around than the last one. If nothing else, this episode illustrates what the show could be if it didn't decide to (over)-focus on Nina and her banal romantic subplot. The moment the show stops being a poor take on a Disney princess movie is also the moment when the show really picks up imho. It's a shame that the other characters don't receive nearly the amount of focus that Nina receives, and yet despite that feel like they are more compelling characters than she is. I wish her character wasn't mired in this awful romance. As for the episode itself, really great bit of teamwork from from Favaro and Kaisar, and later Sofiel and Azazel (though I doubt neither of them will admit it). What I still don't understand is why it's taking so long for anyone to explain what the end goal for Charioce and his Onyx Knights is. Why so secretive? The very fact that neither him or his Onyx Knights refuse to even talk about it is an indication that either, a) He really is trying to stop some really bad shit, or b) his cause isn't as noble as we're being led to believe. Either way, here's hoping that the next episode really does answer the questions that the audience has been asking for a while now, and that the answer itself is sufficient enough to live up to all this secrecy and buildup. Lastly, I've been expecting something like this for a few episodes now, but Alessand is still a piece of garbage. Here's hoping that the captain of the Onyx Knights still refuses to let him join, and that he gets what's coming to him. |
Kuro_YuukiSep 1, 2017 6:28 PM
| Matsuoka Yoshitsugu has hardly any range as a voice actor, and is grossly over-cast. Yeah. I said it. |
| Good ol' Nina. Always try her best to smile in front of Mugaro. |
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| Nice episode. Azazel & Sofiel destroyed that Demon Dragon. Cool to see Favaro & Kaisar in action. NOOO Not Mugaro. DAMN That bastard Alessand. |
"I’ve set myself to become the King of the Pirates…and if I die trying…then at least I tried!" Monkey D. Luffy (One Piece) |
| the black dragon was cool, he is first actual enemy that feels like the enemies in the prequel. but then he just get rekt by azazel and boobs angel just like that, pretty disappointing. |
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| Post credits scene wanted me to flip my chair to next week... what the hell... |
| Sofiel is beautiful, also powerful, I love her *-* Mugarooooo, stay alive... |
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| We get some solid animation in this episode's fights which was cool. Other than that yes I agree, Alessand and Nina are ruining this second season. |
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| What a fucking trainwreck of a show lol |
| totally didn't expect deaths in this show (aside from grand heroic sacrifices) |
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| Ah, this love she thinks she has for the King... it's absurd and it's really annoying to watch her overall teenage love story unraveling. At least we've got Favaro back for the past couple of episodes. Azazel is way way better than that pretty boy King, who also seems to be a psychopath. |
| fuck Alessand. He is Suzaku V2 |
| A book and who seek it attract one another. -Dantalian no Shoka |
| Fuck this teenage love drama bullshit. Dropped. |
"At some point, I stopped hoping." |
| Some people need to chill out about mugaro. |
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