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| THIS IS AN ANIME ONLY DISCUSSION POST. DO NOT DISCUSS THE MANGA BEYOND THIS EPISODE. ---------------------------------------- Hmm the final episode.. To me, rather than a big battle for total control, I think the show surprisingly handled this better than I had expected with the psychology. Shindou getting stabbed though......I'm honestly not surprised. This whole relationship that began pretty much went downhill after a lot of events. Pretty eventful finale tbh. This did feel kinda like a climax. |
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| nothing to say 5/10 average anime |
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| it wasnt average from the start, but ending could get better. Good they finished the plot |
| Was waiting for this DBZ level final battle that the haters were SO CERTAIN was going to go down but sadly that didn't happen huh? Either way, I was pleasantly surprised by how they handled this series in the end, because not only did they throw most of the haters for a loop thinking that it was going to be some type of Naruto vs Sasuke match between Shindo and Yaha, but instead they did the exact opposite The only predictable thing like @Stark700 said was Shindo dying (That was always a possibility given how close he and Yagha was, but I'm not even mad because that exchange of words between them was beautiful and the way it ended was really satisfying despite his death) I liked that the show didn't have to dumb itself down either in regards to the fate of Fregonics and instead allowed both parties to maintain some level of intellect in regards to their strategies (Yaha linking Fregonics to KADO, so therefore, whatever happens to him happens tothe Wam that he gave the humans and likewise with Shindo and co using the Namo-can't bother typing this name out to enact their plan that I'm certain most including myself did not see coming) YUKIKA.....My goodness she saved this finale from being predictable and a full on battle shounen finale.....And I love how she's essentially a culmination of Shindo and Yaha mixed with a bit of her mom.....The exact culmination of all 3 ideologies coming into one and having her be raised by the other dude is just sweet :''') Like I said in the previous thread, I was never against humanity using the Wam etc but rather I felt like being forced to assimilate to anything IS fundamentally wrong on tons of fronts and levels and instead we should just naturally progress forward instead of rushing things that we are not ready for nor fully comprehend (Which is what Yaha was trying to do which in turn would destroy humanity) and that is why I'm glad that even though humanity lost it's Wam, they still have the knowledge to go off on so that naturally we will progress to achieving those higher dimensions and thankfully Yukika helped Yaha to understand this in the end because as I said before, she is the walking and talking culmination of all three ideologies And lastly, I'm glad that Saraka chose to get rid of her powers since her keeping them would have made her a complete hypocrite as well as it being a huge contradiction to the purpose of this finale and the ending.....And I'm even more thankful that she didn't involve herself physically in this finale/confrontation lol Easiest 9/10 I've ever given out this season |
TokoyaJun 30, 2017 7:53 AM
| I'm disappointed. Five episodes made me hyped, so I gave 10 and I thought it's gonna be AOTS for me. But the last three made me disappointed. I gave it 8/10 |
| Plot twist again. New character solved the problem. This may be controversial. By the way, is there any reason Shindo to die if his daughter can defeat Zash? Or her daughter was just a backup plan? Overall, the show has a lot of flaws but it also introduced new taste to this genre at the same time. At least the show succeeded in keeping us to watch it to the last episode. |
Tokoya said: Was waiting for this DBZ level final battle that the haters were SO CERTAIN was going to go down but sadly that didn't happen huh? This ^^^^^ oh boy, those haters must be burning their salt into the highest temperature by now boy this ending was unexpected from beginning to end, I even got mindfucked several times, but the show DID stick loyal to what it was doing: Mindfucking us while having interesting talking confrontations, that Development of zaShunina tho. and the introductión of Yukika was completely unexpected, the Anisotropic can be scary if you know how to use it huh? what happened to the loli scientific? |
| "We could make the world better, but it's easier to just shut our eyes." ~Blackwall |
| Does anyone know the significance of the last scene where she just walks out of view to the right? |
EndlesslyJun 30, 2017 8:15 AM
| nooo i'm not satisfied with that ending :( my zaShunina and Shindo :'( |
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| The whole "that which goes beyond information" is surely connected to her just disappearing like that. It was mentioned after Yukika defeated Yaha and in that last scene with Saraka disappearing. It seemed like even if he isn't physically there anymore, he is still there like spiritually or something? I doubt this, but I even considered Saraka committing suicide to be with Shindo again if that were the case. |
| Ending was good but I still feel unsatisfied...why did Shindo have to die. |
| Lets not confuse and complicate ourself too much, we just have to know that Shindo and the proferssor girl are not human anymore. |
valvravetruthJun 30, 2017 8:40 AM
| It's confirmed, Yaha-kui zaShunina is a yandere. I'm totally satisfied with anime. It really is a unique one with all those questions about the right answer, the psychology and the differences in ideology. The best thing in this episode was Shindou Yukika. It never crossed my mind that Shindou and Tsukai would have a child. Hanamori aged a lot raising Yukika. That scientist, Shinawa, was still working even after everything that was happening. Is she even a human. ((+_+)) 8/10 |
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| Didn't think Shindo's daughter was going to stop zaShunina. He got too obsessive with him. After that happened, Kado disappeared and the Wam, Sansa and Nanomis-hein stopped working. This was a decent show. |
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| In the end, it wasn't a shounen battle between Shindo and zaShunina. Still, I didn't like the way this series turned after ep 10. zaShunina turned from a cold and logical being to a complete emotional being too fast It complete replaces humanity questioning about evolution for a struggle between Saraka and zaShunina about how to manage humanity. The humanity itself had no way to speak for itself if they wanted to go to the anisotropic or not. It had great potential to be a good sci-fi. It feels the story is broken somehow (probably it was a 24ep story) 6/10 |
| And so the final is finally here Man the music for this episode though really is good. So the gear itself is a one use item eh. Shindou's tactic of trying to surprise ZaShuNina though was an apt one. So now even as they talk Kado is wrecking Japan eh. Kado sure is spreading fast though thats for sure. So ZaShuNina wants to see exactly what makes humanity unique eh. Thats easy its our unique personality thats different for each person. You have to respect Gonnou's determination though. Even after finding that all he reported so far was wrong he's still determined to report the truth. For how advanced he is ZashuNina actually behaves very much like a human. All he see's in humanity is how useful they will be to him as sources of information. The other world though surely fascinating is only second to the fate of humanity as a race though. Its nice that thanks to Saraka that Shindou realized this though. Shindou's conviction really is strong here though. And now ZaShuNina's true self is revealed and man what a villain he is. Hmm to think that ZaShuNina after realizing that Shindou isn't going to agree with him elected to use a very human method to settle things though. Shindou's retort though was good. Hmm that was a twist so ZaShuNina's plans were that far ahead from the introduction of the wam eh. Saraka will definitely be angry that her friend and lover has been killed though. Hmm man that twist in this episode though was amazing and unexpected as always. So Saraka's plan made use of his newest invention and time eh. Hmm so the plan was to use Saraka and Shindou's daughter in teenage form to deal with ZaShuNina eh. Now this is what i call a surprise lol. ZaShuNina's reaction on seeing what the plan was though was hillarious. Hmm the daughter has both the bravery of Shindou and the intelligence that both her parents have lol. Shindou and Saraka's daughter though is pretty powerful though thats for sure. Watching she just effortlessly defeat ZaShuNina was just hillarious. Ironic that his own tech was used to defeat him though. But man that was one hell of a plan they used though. Hmm so that was why the last episode was named Yukikia eh. The name of their daughter that would defeat ZaShuNina eh. Though the gifts was lost at least Humanity still remains though less developed yes but happy at least. Still Humanity can still learn a lot from this episode though. Advancement at its own pace is far more important. |
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| Shindo died :'( and zaShunina suffered :'( zaShunina is still alive I think, he turned into particles and floated away and I think shindo is a spirit at the end maybe he's with yukika, the origami moved in the container which had no wind. Yukika a cute god :) 9/10 |
ichii_1Jun 30, 2017 8:54 AM
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| Damn, that romance escalated quickly. This show is missing the 'Romance' tag |
| Despite everything, this anime for me is the thing that won this season. I'm well impressed of how they ended the season. That's really it, 9/10 for me. |
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| Shindo did not only surprise zaShunina. Was a bit too much with that daughter and the time stuff ... I got surprised as well. Other guy looked pretty old. Was funny to see him like that. Going with 8/10. The plot twist with Tsukai few episodes ago locked the top scores (9+) for me. And with that end it was even close between 7 and 8 but most of the anime was good (until the twist) and the music was nice. As comparison: Natsume Yuujinchou got 9 from me. Shingeki no Bahamuta s well (still airing). Other 8s were Shingeki no Kyojin (+1 compared to its previous season) and Kabukibu and Re-Creators (still airing and that might go down to 7 ... depending on what they are going to to in the 2nd half). |
| Can't remember when an anime bombed so hard in the end. 6/10 |
| So not only did they have a daughter for the sole purpose of being a weapon but trapped her in a prison with just one other person for 16 years. Gon's dad, Goku, yeah they got nothing on these two. |
| Shindo died :'( The way things ended didn't exactly leave me satisfied personally but considering the route the anime decided to take in it's storytelling, this ending was still a very good one. The show for me is at least a 9/10. |
| Really liked the concept. Too bad it ended like this. |
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| I wish I could forget about these last 4 episodes, what a way to ruin a show that had me hooked hard with the interesting Sci-Fi idea. I'm not even sure how to rate this, fucking what man. |
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| This would have worked better as a 2 cour/24 episode show. I didn't like the direction it went towards the end. |
| This felt so fucking rushed, the relationship and the fricking kid was totally unnecessary, she even left after that lmao. I'm sorry, I know a lot of you loved Saraka but, tbh, I think she is the most fucking annoying girl I’ve ever seen. She literally manipulated Shindo. She introduced him to his family, told him about her past, her thoughts and shit and he ended up feeling like he owed her something for all that. She kept telling him what SHE thought was the “right answer”, and made him believe it was correct. Up until that point, Shindo and zaShunina were working together in a friendly atmosphere, but then she butted in and completely fucked it up. Shindo had his own beliefs and agreed with zaShunina that humanity needed those changes, but this chick made a tantrum and she got what she wanted at the end. The whole thing was really fucking selfish. Also, I know it was queerbaiting and, honestly, I didn’t cared at all and was enjoying it pretty much, but the way they managed it at the end made me sick. Even tho there wasn’t a real relationship between Shindo and zaShunina other than friendship, it was so fucking cruel to show him the baby that way. He was clearly hurt, maybe even more than surprised. They fucked everything up on the last few episodes. zaShunina definitely deserved better than that, he was only trying to help. Fuck Shindo and Saraka. |
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| I'm confused with the ending. So, Shindo had a daughter before the battle, who was raised 16 years in an instant manipulating time with Sansha. Shindo, instead of waiting for her appearance jumps to the fight and dies (and I don't understand why, the surprise it's his daughter not the Fregonics device so ???) His daughter ¿kills? ZaShunina (and I was thinking Shindo only wanted to surprise him), not caring much for her dead father in front of her because, well, the one who raised her was Shindo's friend. Later, she goes to who knows where and no one seems worried. Like, I know she's super strong but she's only 16. And Saraka is supposed to be her mother. And why she lost her powers? She didn't fight and she's supposed to be an anisotropic being yet. Someone who can explain to me? |
YlenieJun 30, 2017 10:17 AM
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| This show started off well, but then it jumped the shark towards the end and became incredibly lame. Shame. Solid 4/10. |
| The ending was slightly interesting but it's safe to say that I wasn't satisfied. |
| The series overall started off great and interesting...but the ending tho... i know that the sudden romance was needed to lead into shindo's daughter but it felt so sudden and the overall ending left me with an unsatisfied taste :/ (i just wanted shindo and zashinuna to be happy together, even just as friends) ALSO best friend award goes to hanamori, who used 16 years of his life to raise his friend's daughter! |
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haineko123 said: he is the ultimate cuckoldALSO best friend award goes to hanamori, who used 16 years of his life to raise his friend's daughter! |
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| Hmm... Im speechless with the ending Shindo death is expected but my god they got a daughter So he fcked her in that cramped place and poor hanamori taking care of her Oh well at least it has ended |
dash5611 said: So not only did they have a daughter for the sole purpose of being a weapon but trapped her in a prison with just one other person for 16 years. Gon's dad, Goku, yeah they got nothing on these two. Yeah I was thinking the same thing. That's so out of character. They didn't seem like the sociopathic kind till then and bam suddenly they're creating baby weapons and shit, completely disregarding the babies life. And zashunina turned from unemotional to emotional way too fast. Man what a waste of potential. |
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