| I wondered about it too. On the other hand there are already other chinese (literally) cartoons on MAL. Then there are manhwa, web comics and LNs. I guess it's either we go pure anime-only or have mixed bag with no clear borders. I just wish they added VNs... |
| I'm not entirely sure but it seems like any animations in the anime style that are made in Asia (or at least from China and South Korea) can pass as anime. But it is strange because that is how I think of it as well, anime influenced animated shows from the US I think of as cartoons, but anime styled shows from China or South Korea I think of as anime. |
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1. The following entries are allowed in the anime database: Professionally produced, animated works created: in Japan for the Japanese market; in Korea/China for the Korean/Chinese market; as a joint production between Japan/Korea/China and another country. Note: This does not include productions where only the animation is outsourced. https://myanimelist.net/forum/?topicid=141101 |
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| Because MAL isn't as racist as you, duhh. Yeh, there are Korean animations on MAL. |
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| I'd imagine that the same people will be more likely to watch both types of animation, therefore more traffic to 1 website, 1 account and you can have ALL your East Asian cartoons together, literally no downside. |
HikariJake said: MortalMelancholy said: Because MAL isn't as racist as you, duhh. Yeh, there are Korean animations on MAL. Jesus, I hope this is a joke comment. Jesus would say that all cartoon animations are created equal <.< Well, actually, he probably wouldn't. |
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DimensionKnight said: Anime becomes communistic, the borders will broaden until there are no borders, Chinese Cartoons is the revolution. Get over it weebs. Go back to reddit please. |
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| any animation based on the Japanese anime art style is an anime how many time should we say that and since it is licensed it can be listed on mal |
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| anime is a style of Japanese film and television animation, typically aimed at adults as well as children.not an animation made by japan but based on there artsyle of France do an an animation based on the Japanese style it would count as an anime |
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HikariJake said: Isn´t Avatar some American show based on Chinese martial arts. Technically that would be an insult to anime if you put American cartoons here, (I watched Avatar ep 1 and thought it was so-so...) I mean, personally I don't want any works made outside of Japan on MAL, but since there are already, I don't see what would really exclude Western animation with anime influence from being on MAL. Either we have only Japan, or we have worldwide animation. It doesn't make sense to only open up the regions to East Asia. In fact, I think that's even more insulting to Japan, considering the bitter feelings between Japan and China. Grouping Japan/China/Korea together is completely undermining the differences in their cultures. Well speaking only Asian animation history Chinese animation influenced a lot Japanese animation. Of course French animation also has influenced such big names such as Hayao Miyazaki and Isao Takahata. And Disney was the big changer among animation industry that it can been seen in older Asian animations when Disney (and Betty Boop) came to Asia. Beside most anime is produced in China or Korea because it's cheaper and those two countries have bigger marketing group than west so there's a lot influences between these three countries. But for a reason why a website that has anime in it's name also includes animations from other East Asian countries but not western cartoons with anime influences might be because most of the users are from western countries. It's more easy to search for western animations for us and information on them while eastern cartoons just aren't that popular here. And if some one doesn't mind watching a Japanese cartoon I don't think they would say no to a Chinese show if it's good. |
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| Honestly speaking, this show is better than SOA which is made in Japan. Quality-wise, I felt like watching an anime movie. Again, YMMV |
| In my definition Anime is an animation that created in Japan or by Japanese or maybe joint production with Japanese and Manga a comic that created in Japan or by Japanese or maybe joint production with Japanese. If it produce only by one country alone e.g. Chinese create a comic in China and by only Chinese artist then It's not a manga but I will called it Manhua like every Chinese would called it. It maybe have an element or similarities with Manga but still it is a Manhua. I honestly prefer MAL is only for Japanese / Joint with Japanese production only comic / animation. But since they already decided to include Chinese and Korean comic / animation, why not include the Western comic / animation when they have a 70% similarity or elements that somewhat akin to Anime and Manga as well? e.g. Avatar the last air-bender series. Nowadays from what is saw, French and American animation / comic that have similarity or elements that somewhat akin to Anime and Manga is on the rise as well. So once again, why not include that as well? why double standard is applied? |
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| Anime means chinese cartoon. This show is literally a chinese cartoon therefore it's literally an anime. |
Valaskjalf said: Anime means chinese cartoon. This show is literally a chinese cartoon therefore it's literally an anime. Hahaha this should be the best answer. [Upvote] |
| Anime is Eastern animation, and Avatar is a Western animation. Pretty simple and clear-cut. Chinese and Korean animations have been accepted into the database for as long as I can remember. |
| That's a Manhwa... Not an anime. Also, read the rules here: https://myanimelist.net/forum/?topicid=141104 for manga. |
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| FYI. Joint projects done between America and Japan can be added to the database as well. IGPX, for example, was an original series made for Cartoon Network back in 2003. Avatar on the other hand is 100% an American Cartoon by production and definition. Japan nor any Asian country played any part in the making of it. The art style is similar but it's still labeled as Cartoon when you look it up. Personally I don't really see a problem with Chinese or Korean Anime being added to the site as long as the style is the same as traditional Japanese Anime. I'm not sure why this gets some people's knickers in a bunch. At the end of the day these are shows that you would have never known where not made in Japan if it wasn't for the Chinese characters and production company names. |
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| If Id manage this page, Id either create a sub category for Non Japanese Cartoons, or develop a daughter site (the code structer is already there, so it wouldnt take too much work). Merging them (as it right now with this series e.g.) works right now with few titles, but if 100s or more of foreign "animes" will be added, it will get confusing. There are already quite a lot new Janapese entries per season. |
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| Cause it looks and feels like one whereas avatar does not. I thought country of origin mattered but this one made me change my opinion. |
chzcy said: In Japanese: Anime=animation (original) = 動画 (kanji) In Chinese: 動画 = 动画 (as simplified Chinese characters) = Anime THEY LITERALLY STAND THE SAME THING Also, I'm still confused why people just get triggered by this. Isn't it just a terminology? Here we have an exemple of a smart person, just debunked this for you Anime stands for, drum role please... ANIMATION |
buyusetna said: Korean manhwa isn't allowed? I've seen manhwa entries on MAL. https://myanimelist.net/topmanga.php?type=manhwaTyrel said: That's a Manhwa... Not an anime. Also, read the rules here: https://myanimelist.net/forum/?topicid=141104 for manga. if korean anime is allowed why korean manga cant be allowed too? i dont understand |
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| Western animation is just too different. For this show, be honest, if you watched it in Japanese, you wouldn't even have known it's originally Chinese. Because it's very similar to Japanese anime in terms of style. Users (like myself) who watch Chinese anime will appreciate the option to include them here; to me and many others, they are comparable (style-wise.) I watch western animation and cartoons too (for eg. Gravity Falls) but it would be too weird to include them here -- the style is just too different. |
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| i don't see any problem with adding eastern animations on this site, but i would like a little flag of origin next to the name of a serie like this show getting a chinese flag and a korean show a korean flag, and the japanese shows a japanese flag to just quickly see if it's a "true japanese anime" or a "eastern anime" |
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| Because MAL staff is hypocrite. This is managed by friends, after all. Rules are like jelly in the sun. "Oh, we only add titles produced by japanese companies" They changed that. "Oh, we only add titles created by japanese artists and routerists" Changed that too. Not it seems that "China and Japan are allowed". Korea, almost there. We just have to wait for them to take liking into a title that doesn't fit their rules, then they simply change it. And no, it's not based on community pressure. I've been watching MAL years before I had an account here and there is rarely any case of community successfully pushing them to do anything. Anyway, I'm glad they did. I love this show. |
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kyrrua said: So..is there an objective answer, or are they all personal opinions? Genuinely asking, because I have read and seen -and also by definitions- that anime means Japanese animations and only Japanese (Not that I mind if it weren't Japanese as long as it looks like anime) so I'm confused now. Back to the question: Is there an objective, definite answer? In case of MAL, "what is anime" doesn't really matter. They change based on their own opinions. |
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