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Nov 14, 2015 1:26 PM

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Aww yiss, was missing Kanbaru and so happy she got a lot of screen time this episode. Always wondered what happened with her when Araragi was going to introduce her to Gaen.
Nov 14, 2015 1:35 PM

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This episode deserves 5/5 in regards to how they introduced to the viewers, and the whole Araragi x Kanbaru talk throughout the episode. Got me interested to it.

Also thanks to this discussion topic, I was able to recall most of the stuff that this arc is connected to. Of course I have seen almost all previously aired series of Monogatari and can see lots of hints throughout the episode where this arc is placed (the bed on third floor, the mentioning of Hanekawa's doing of that fire, and finally the previous vampire master of Shinobu) but it makes proper sense after going through all posts here :)

Only a small bit of confusion still there is presence of Ononoki in this arc, if someone can explain...

EDIT: Oh I remember now;
fshahidNov 14, 2015 1:44 PM
Nov 14, 2015 2:00 PM

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darkbreaker said:
thank you for this, it was really hard for me to remember exactly what happened to cause these chain of events.
Nov 14, 2015 2:10 PM

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Oudissy said:
This arc happens at the same time as Tsubasa Tiger. At the end of the third episode of Monogatari SS, Black Hanekawa and Shinobu arrive at the burnt cram school, so this episode happens at the same time they were talking about Kako (the Tiger Oddity).

Cozatto said:
Shinobu is talking to Black Hanekawa in Araragi's room at that moment if I'm not mistaken.
Anyway it's time to rewatch Tsubasa Tiger arc. I forgot some details like the bed is there because Hanekawa stayed there after her house is burnt down by her tiger apparition. Kanbaru is not Kanbaru without her pervert talk. Looking forward to the next episode!

Thanks! I haven't rewatch Monogatari S2 yet in a long time.
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Nov 14, 2015 3:28 PM

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I don't know if I'm just having a bad day but I was really annoyed by the first half
Nov 14, 2015 4:20 PM

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Suruga, YOUUUUUUUU!!!!!!!



Man, I thought that was
the black entity that
consumed Hachikuji



Shaft is messing around
with fans who haven't
read the light novels
chronologically

Nov 14, 2015 4:45 PM

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Loved it, deffintly tops all the previous episodes. I missed Kanbaru's perverted talk, her convo with Araragi was pretty funny.

Going to have to rewatch some of Monogatari SS, I understand most of what's going on.. But might as well try to figure out when we get to see Shinobu. Can't wait for her reveal ^^

Do we get much Senjougahara this arc? Felt like we haven't seen much of her..
Nov 14, 2015 4:47 PM

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kurikinton said:
I don't know if I'm just having a bad day but I was really annoyed by the first half
uve got this far into gatari

how can this annoy u?

PK777 said:
Suruga, YOUUUUUUUU!!!!!!!

Shaft is messing around
with fans who haven't
read the light novels
chronologically
the light novels arent even written in order
Nov 14, 2015 5:07 PM

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DJAnime254 said:
Do we get much Senjougahara this arc? Felt like we haven't seen much of her..


Not sure but I think not until the second cour of Owari, some time in 2016?
Nov 14, 2015 6:00 PM

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Strange start to this arc, still pretty good episode. Nice action.
Nov 14, 2015 6:01 PM
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PK777 said:

Shaft is messing around
with fans who haven't
read the light novels
chronologically


but this is actually how the novels were arranged you know?

besides kizu that should have been done after bake, shaft is doing the series in the right order as the novels were released.
Nov 14, 2015 9:12 PM

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I almost forgot how prime Kanbaru is. I swear out of all the character interactions, Kanbaru and Araragi is the most amusing.

This episode was great. But is it just me or were the action scenes and the animation in general very choppy?
Nov 14, 2015 9:23 PM

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I was expecting a little bit more of action, anyway it was a very good episode. I think this arc really has potential, I'm already waiting for next week's episode.
Nov 14, 2015 9:39 PM

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Wow, Kanbaru. XD

I was pretty sure that the partner he wants to die with is Hitagi.
So it's Kiss-Shot.

Is there a flow chart somewhere on how devoted Koyomi to the girls in his life?

Is Shinobu on the top?
Where is Hitagi on that?
And my Hanekawa Tsubasa??
His sisters?
Kanbaru?
Mayoi?
Nov 15, 2015 12:28 AM
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Nice episode! It's nice to see Kanbaru in this arc, but Ononoki is enough for me.

5/5
Nov 15, 2015 1:32 AM

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mugi said:
Also for some reason, I think this is at least the second time it's hinted that Kanbaru has unknowingly the same ability as Gaen. To some extent at least.
What was the first time?
Nov 15, 2015 1:53 AM

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Wow, as always a great episode from beginning to end. The Monogatari Series keep reminding me of how captivating and fulfilling anime can be in such a time full of generic anime.
Unfortunately, the series does draw closer towards the end after every fantastic episode, which does kind of leave a bad taste in my mouth.

And just to make sure: There will be at least 1 or 2 more seasons after Owarimonogatari right? Also there are the movies coming.
Nov 15, 2015 2:53 AM
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Took quite some time till they moved to the real topic from Kanbaru's perversion but it sure was enjoyable. Their interactions are always so good. XD

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Araragi's comment about Shinobu tho...Senjougahara would go mad out of jealousy if she heard that...


I Thought that he was talking about senjougahara first and found the idea kinda shallow. Though then him choosing the one who he has shared a bigger part of his life, in different ways, definitely was convincing. Props to Koyomi.
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Nov 15, 2015 5:32 AM

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LitzSabr said:
I Thought that he was talking about senjougahara first and found the idea kinda shallow. Though then him choosing the one who he has shared a bigger part of his life, in different ways, definitely was convincing. Props to Koyomi.
He owes his life to Shinobu and Shinobu owes her life to Koyomi...Because of the stuff happened in Kizumonogatari it is obvious that he would say that...But because for some reason Shaft didnt adapt Kizu before all these arcs it is understandable some people dont understand that relationship too well...
Nov 15, 2015 6:04 AM

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Best grill Kanbaru is back! YISS! Fantastic episode, easily one of the best this season. I can't wait for the next episode.
Nov 15, 2015 6:32 AM

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The pervert girl is back :D
My thoughts:

Kanbaru said Hanekawa? What did it mean?
This arc looks gonna be very interesting than before.
Well, anyway , i have a lot of question for this episode.
Can't wait for the next episode!
Ononoki appeared in the last scene..... i didn't see that coming.

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Nov 15, 2015 7:57 AM

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Shinobu is the only one he will die with <3
Made me happy hearing that from him :)

Senjougahara may be his romantic lover but no one has a deeper connection with him than Kiss Shot.
Nov 15, 2015 8:06 AM

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So is this before or after nadeko medusa?

My initial theory is that this happened while araragi was absent in that one hanekawa arc for all of that time.

But then ougi is also there, and mentions kaiki deishuu and "what happened to him" so I'm confused.

Better question would be, is nadeko medusa before hanekawa tiger?

I don't watch as much anime as before...
Nov 15, 2015 8:09 AM

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mugi said:
robis798 said:
What was the first time?


During Neko White when she meets Hanekawa in school. Kanbaru makes some subtle comment and Hanekawa acts surprised and wonders how Kanbaru would know that. That plus Gaen having an interest in her + Kaiki talking about Gaen's legacy ect always made me wonder. Of all the girls, Nisio gives Kanbaru some odd amount of attention.
Considering its true i wonder why we didnt see any foreshadowing to that ability in her own arc(Hanamonogatari)
Nov 15, 2015 8:10 AM

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Double Ueda Hajime Goodness, I'm satisfied.
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Nov 15, 2015 8:18 AM

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Infatuate said:
So is this before or after nadeko medusa?

My initial theory is that this happened while araragi was absent in that one hanekawa arc for all of that time.

But then ougi is also there, and mentions kaiki deishuu and "what happened to him" so I'm confused.

Better question would be, is nadeko medusa before hanekawa tiger?


This part of the story happens along the Tsubasa Tiger arc (the scene when the tiger burns the building also happen in Nekomonogatari: Shiro, but off screen). Ougi scene is only because Araragi told her about the story, as he don't meet her until Ougi Formula (who happens after this arc and the tiger arc), sho she don't really appears in this arc.

The Nadeko Medusa stuff happens after those two arcs. So, in the timeline:

Shinobu Time > Shinobu Mail/Tsubasa Tiger > Ougi Formula > Sodachi Riddle/Sodachi Lost > Nadeko Medusa
Nov 15, 2015 8:28 AM

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Illyricus said:
Infatuate said:
So is this before or after nadeko medusa?

My initial theory is that this happened while araragi was absent in that one hanekawa arc for all of that time.

But then ougi is also there, and mentions kaiki deishuu and "what happened to him" so I'm confused.

Better question would be, is nadeko medusa before hanekawa tiger?


This part of the story happens along the Tsubasa Tiger arc (the scene when the tiger burns the building also happen in Nekomonogatari: Shiro, but off screen). Ougi scene is only because Araragi told her about the story, as he don't meet her until Ougi Formula (who happens after this arc and the tiger arc), sho she don't really appears in this arc.

The Nadeko Medusa stuff happens after those two arcs. So, in the timeline:

Shinobu Time > Shinobu Mail/Tsubasa Tiger > Ougi Formula > Sodachi Riddle/Sodachi Lost > Nadeko Medusa

I see, that makes sense.

I guess when ougi talks about kaiki he/she does it in a general sense, and not specifically about the incident after nadeko medusa unless that flashback (the whole araragi talking about telling an older story: shinobu mail arc) is from around that time.

I don't watch as much anime as before...
Nov 15, 2015 8:36 AM

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Crazy visuals in opening, Kanbaru is girl of show for me.
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Nov 15, 2015 9:25 AM

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Kanbaru's back. Cool, I guess. The hair development is the best part of the show. :]
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Nov 15, 2015 10:34 AM

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darkbreaker said:
It took me some time to arrange the events on my mind, but I just got it.
This episode happens just after Shinobu Time (Monogatari Second Season ep. 20) arc, during Tsubasa Tiger arc (Monogatari Second Season ep. 3).


Araragi lost Shinobu while fleeing from the big ball of darkness that was chasing Mayoi.


As they ask Gaen Suruga for help she requests to be introduced to Kanbaru.


Kanbaru gets Araragi message and talks to Hanekawa about it.


Hanekawa sleeps at Araragi's house and finds Shinobu and tells her about Araragi meeting Kanbaru.


Kako (the tiger apparition) then proceeds to burn the school (while araragi is there, yay!)


I owe you big time!

Nov 15, 2015 12:00 PM
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Aside from the shitty cg armour, enjoying this much more than the Sodachi arc (needlessly drawn out, boring and not witty in the slightest).
I was really getting bored with this series up until now. So I'm very glad it's actually become interesting again.

Going to just pretend I never watched Sodachi.

Also, kanbaru being back hnnngggg <3
Nov 15, 2015 1:38 PM

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that OP dude wow and Kanbaru the pervert strikes again that samurai was taugh
Nov 15, 2015 2:49 PM

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Finally a good episode, I almost lost all hope :')
Nov 15, 2015 2:57 PM

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Forgot how awesome Kanbaru is.
I do hope to see Shinobu soon.
Nov 15, 2015 3:02 PM

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DJAnime254 said:
Do we get much Senjougahara this arc? Felt like we haven't seen much of her..


Not sure but I think not until the second cour of Owari, some time in 2016?
Uggh long wait for the Hitagi Rendezvous arc.. But oohh well.

Might be quite awhile from now, with all the Kizumomogatari movies coming out. But as long as we get some Shinobu screen time I'm happy.
Nov 15, 2015 4:36 PM
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Oooohhh so I guess this is what happened before Araragi helped out Hanekawa in the first arc of Second Season?? This is gonna be great!

I also love the new OP, very serious and dramatic.
Nov 15, 2015 5:49 PM

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Shinobu's VA better sing the movies' OP or riot.

I don't watch as much anime as before...
Nov 15, 2015 6:18 PM

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Damn I missed seeing that cram school haha.

OP was strange. I liked it.
I need sleep.
Nov 15, 2015 6:54 PM

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Thanks. Really appreciate it. I have forgotten about it.
But it's important to remember that a movie review is subjective;it only gives you one person's opinion.

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Nov 15, 2015 11:04 PM

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Shinobu> Hitagi. Soulmate> girlfriend ??. damn!!
Nov 16, 2015 12:05 AM
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gino_san said:
Shinobu> Hitagi. Soulmate> girlfriend ??. damn!!


Don't think it's quite just a whole soulmate thing with Shinobu. Think a lot of it is kind of shared responsibility for what happened during Kizumonogatari.
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Sangaz said:
gino_san said:
Shinobu> Hitagi. Soulmate> girlfriend ??. damn!!


Don't think it's quite just a whole soulmate thing with Shinobu. Think a lot of it is kind of shared responsibility for what happened during Kizumonogatari.


well technically speaking, "soulmate" fits this, just not in the usual context.

araragi and shinobu are pretty much connected at a "soul" level and their partners hence "mate", so "soulmate" kinda works.

also damn it maaya, stop being a spoilsport and sing.
Nov 16, 2015 7:49 AM

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darkbreaker said:
thank you for this, it was really hard for me to remember exactly what happened to cause these chain of events.

Oh...you are a genius.
Nov 16, 2015 11:20 AM

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Very interesting series. I got to give it, this is the best series of this series that I follow. Really a good series. And the animation is actually very well done. I didn't expect to see any fight seen this series, but I am glad they included some fighting. And that ending was quite a cliffhanger. ^^ Now I am really excited for the next ep. :)

The new OP were very scary and nice made.

[SPOILER]



This picture were very depressing. Very cute character though. Really interesting what her part is in this part of the series.
Nov 16, 2015 11:28 AM

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LoneWizard said:
Barion-Zara said:
I faintly remember that now and I know these 2 arcs were taking place at the same time but I don't remember if she did it on purpose at this specific time or just by coincidence?
If you remember MS2 you will also remember Kako had a fire fetish,she wanted to burn places related to hanekawa to relieve stress...

Zapredon said:
Wait...so Shinobu > Senjougahara?
Soulmate>Lover


LOL, this is quite confusing to read when you haven't watched the other Monogatari-series and jumped on this one. :P
Nov 16, 2015 1:38 PM

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mangalicker94 said:

LOL, this is quite confusing to read when you haven't watched the other Monogatari-series and jumped on this one. :P
Yeaaah....NEVER do that...Starting a series with its 879th sequel is never a good idea...

Or do whatever works for you,not my business =_=
Nov 16, 2015 10:24 PM

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Kanbaru YAY!!!!!!

So he and Kanbaru were in this building when the fire happened 0___0
Nov 17, 2015 6:05 AM

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so it was during the tsubasa tiger huh....

and lol kanbaru, not wanting to die a virgin huh. makes sense. hahaha

AND YES, ONONOKI!!!!! Yey, yey, peace!!! XD
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DJAnime254 said:
Do we get much Senjougahara this arc? Felt like we haven't seen much of her..


Nah, I think she was with hanekawa (helping her with the tiger adn stuff) during this arc...
But I really miss her too! >o<
Nov 17, 2015 11:33 PM

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This is the Monogatari I know and love. Sodachi Lost was alright, but Kanbaru makes Monogatari a million times better. Kanbaru's banter with Araragi is always a lot of fun. Definitely looking forward to the rest of this arc.
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