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May 27, 2013 1:23 AM
#1
It has been announced that manga "Tonari no Kaibutsu-kun" will end in the upcoming August issue of Dessert which will come out on June 24th. The manga started its serialization in the manga magazine Dessert in the October 2008 issue and was adapted into an anime in October 2012. Volume 12 of the manga will be released on August 12th and the limited edition will include an OVA titled "Tonari no Gokudou-kun". Source: Natalie Previous related topic: Manga 'Tonari no Kaibutsu-kun' to End |
NaruleachMay 27, 2013 2:30 AM
So MAL finally starts locking news threads that are only a few weeks old? I wonder where was the announcement of this change? Or we are seeing yet another case of changes made that impacted users but not communicated to them? I wonder how long people would put up with this. As much as I have a bunch of information to share about anime announced recently I cannot share it in news board, and the anime series is too disorganized and chaotic to share information except with people already interested in the particular series. |
May 27, 2013 1:27 AM
#2
Well that's expected, it does seem like it's coming to and end and things can be tied up in the upcoming chapters. It's too bad though, I really enjoy reading the manga because the characters are all so fun. But at the same time, it makes sense that it will end soon because there's not much else to elaborate on. |
May 27, 2013 1:32 AM
#3
Manga/Anime I like and enjoy was funny til the end atleast. |
May 27, 2013 1:48 AM
#4
Did the author finally start running out of ways to delay the story? |
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May 27, 2013 1:52 AM
#5
DraconisMarch said: Isn't it similar tale for most manga that has some popularity, from battle shounen to seinen human drama to shoujo romance? So what is new you are bringing to the table???Did the author finally start running out of ways to delay the story? |
symbvMay 27, 2013 1:55 AM
So MAL finally starts locking news threads that are only a few weeks old? I wonder where was the announcement of this change? Or we are seeing yet another case of changes made that impacted users but not communicated to them? I wonder how long people would put up with this. As much as I have a bunch of information to share about anime announced recently I cannot share it in news board, and the anime series is too disorganized and chaotic to share information except with people already interested in the particular series. |
May 27, 2013 1:55 AM
#6
May 27, 2013 1:58 AM
#7
Good news :P I will read it in one go! |
May 27, 2013 2:08 AM
#8
ah man, im kinda sad. i liked it a lot. was one of the first manga ive read actually (i think) i'll look forward to it! |
May 27, 2013 2:42 AM
#9
Haven't read the manga but I've already watched the anime...I didn't kinda liked the anime...It's going in circles which I don't really get it...Anyway, many people say that the manga is much better, so I'm gonna check it out soon... |
May 27, 2013 3:01 AM
#10
I watched the anime on recommendation of a friend, who's also really into the manga. She sounded sad to find out it was ending. Never was much of a shoujo type myself, but I liked the anime and the manga seems fun as well. I'll definately read the manga once it ends; I like going through things in one go so it's still fresh in my mind and such, heh. |
May 27, 2013 3:22 AM
#11
This makes me feel so old. So many shojos I read are ending. |
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May 27, 2013 3:55 AM
#13
It is ending next month guys so you can probably start reading it now unless you plan on reading twelve books worth in a weekend. Too bad really that we won't get to see 8 books worth animated! They only got to the end of book four in season 1! While they did spend a lot of time on side stuff, the side stuff is what makes romantic comedies funny! If they just got straight to the point then there wouldn't be much time for comedy. And the side characters are very interesting in this story. The manga is very good however so while the anime was great, at least we get the end of the story. Original anime that aren't finished are definitely worse. The last volume of the anime shipped last week. My box is full. |
May 27, 2013 6:39 AM
#14
Now that the ending is confirmed (again), I'll make sure to read the remaining chapters. |
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May 27, 2013 6:59 AM
#15
NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO Q__________________Q //SOBBING |
May 27, 2013 8:24 AM
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May 27, 2013 8:26 AM
#17
I knew this awhile ago but ya..kinda sad to find out about this. Oh well, still hoping to end it on a good note... |
May 27, 2013 10:19 AM
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May 27, 2013 10:43 AM
#19
I'm going to read the manga if it ends. The anime was quite good and I already take a look into the manga. |
May 27, 2013 11:00 AM
#20
Sad that the manga's gonna end already, but I think it's good that isn't one of those shoujo manga that end up being 100+ chapters. |
May 27, 2013 12:19 PM
#21
May 27, 2013 1:01 PM
#22
May 27, 2013 1:22 PM
#24
Better to end it while people will still miss it rather than when people will go "really? I thought that ended ages ago". I have enjoyed this series a lot, particularly because of Mitty, but the last half dozen or so episodes I have read (I am not current) started focusing too much on Haru and his past, and I have to be honest, I never really liked Haru as a character and could not care less about his past. He was good supporting lead as a foil for Mitty, but he didn't have anything to recommend him as the main character: his entire past seemed more melodrama that tragic, and whatever really didn't justify his psychotic behavior today. Of course I am a guy, and this manga wasn't directed at me. I know that, but I do enjoy reading it. Just always have had and always will have a problem with the whole: "love redeems" story line. Not particularly true, and that myth often keeps women in abusive relationships blaming themselves. |
May 27, 2013 2:05 PM
#25
May 27, 2013 2:25 PM
#26
I'm a bit sad about it ending already, but, to be honest, the timing is actually pretty good. I didn't like how the story began to move in the same direction as the current 'Kaichou wa maid-sama' plot - dude being rich and his family needing him, thus creating distance to the heroine. Well, what should I say? I had lots of laughs with both the Anime and Manga. Great series. |
May 27, 2013 2:37 PM
#27
symbv said: The main male confessing to the girl chapter one?DraconisMarch said: Isn't it similar tale for most manga that has some popularity, from battle shounen to seinen human drama to shoujo romance? So what is new you are bringing to the table???Did the author finally start running out of ways to delay the story? |
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May 27, 2013 2:40 PM
#28
symbv said: Shounens suffer from a "make shit up as you go" story and don't have a clearly defined end goal.DraconisMarch said: Isn't it similar tale for most manga that has some popularity, from battle shounen to seinen human drama to shoujo romance? So what is new you are bringing to the table???Did the author finally start running out of ways to delay the story? Tonari no Kaibutsu-kun introduced its main plot (the main characters getting together), and then proceeded to just shove in a ton of excuses for them NOT to (like a lot of shoujos do). There IS difference. And my comment IS relevant. |
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May 27, 2013 3:05 PM
#29
DraconisMarch said: symbv said: Shounens suffer from a "make shit up as you go" story and don't have a clearly defined end goal.DraconisMarch said: Isn't it similar tale for most manga that has some popularity, from battle shounen to seinen human drama to shoujo romance? So what is new you are bringing to the table???Did the author finally start running out of ways to delay the story? Tonari no Kaibutsu-kun introduced its main plot (the main characters getting together), and then proceeded to just shove in a ton of excuses for them NOT to (like a lot of shoujos do). There IS difference. And my comment IS relevant. True, but I think the "delays" in Tonari no Kaibutsu-kun are quite refreshing compared to most other (romance) shoujo manga, where you have crazy love polygons and jealousy going on. |
May 27, 2013 3:49 PM
#30
Well that was a good run and i did enjoy both manga and anime, it will be miss |
May 27, 2013 4:05 PM
#31
I already miss the anime & will miss this manga too. :( |
May 27, 2013 4:42 PM
#32
voll said: I hope the Sasayan x Natsume subplot MANGA SPOILER UP TO END OF SECOND LAST CHAPTER Robico is running out of time if that is to happen, one chapter left and hasn't happened. 2nd last chapter has 30 pages of recap pictures without any dialogue! One more chapter to go... |
May 27, 2013 5:42 PM
#33
I'm gonna cry. I love Tonari no Kaibutsu-kun. I wish they would have been able to get at least one more volume out of it :p Maybe we can hope for season 2 of the anime? |
May 27, 2013 6:18 PM
#34
MEanimaniac1 said: I'm gonna cry. I love Tonari no Kaibutsu-kun. I wish they would have been able to get at least one more volume out of it :p Maybe we can hope for season 2 of the anime? You can hope but the anime didn't sell well and with the manga ending there isn't original material to promote anymore so sadly, I think volume 12 with its OVA is the last we will get. I bought the anime hoping my sales would help but too few others pitched in. Shoujo just isn't what the otaku are being these days for anime. Manga, yes! Anime, no :'( |
May 27, 2013 7:07 PM
#35
arrrrrhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! okay enough otaku shock. At least we got to see an OVA *Q* |
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May 27, 2013 7:52 PM
#36
well you know what they say, all good things come to an end. ヽ(;▽;)ノ |
May 27, 2013 8:19 PM
#37
DraconisMarch said: But your words only touched upon the "delays". Making shit up as you go is still "delay" - delay of reaching that (not always clearly defined) end goal. And if anything, human drama seinen can be even worse in this department - things not going the way it should ideally be is so common there. Shounens suffer from a "make shit up as you go" story and don't have a clearly defined end goal. Tonari no Kaibutsu-kun introduced its main plot (the main characters getting together), and then proceeded to just shove in a ton of excuses for them NOT to (like a lot of shoujos do). DraconisMarch said: And these are pretty ignorable statementS (yes, the plural).There IS difference. And my comment IS relevant. |
So MAL finally starts locking news threads that are only a few weeks old? I wonder where was the announcement of this change? Or we are seeing yet another case of changes made that impacted users but not communicated to them? I wonder how long people would put up with this. As much as I have a bunch of information to share about anime announced recently I cannot share it in news board, and the anime series is too disorganized and chaotic to share information except with people already interested in the particular series. |
May 28, 2013 4:31 AM
#38
symbv said: Making shit up as you go isn't "delaying" anything because there's no clear or planned end. It's the result of just making more until it no longer sells, and THEN deciding to come up with an ending. That's different from having a clear ending, but just delaying arriving there.DraconisMarch said: But your words only touched upon the "delays". Making shit up as you go is still "delay" - delay of reaching that (not always clearly defined) end goal. And if anything, human drama seinen can be even worse in this department - things not going the way it should ideally be is so common there. Shounens suffer from a "make shit up as you go" story and don't have a clearly defined end goal. Tonari no Kaibutsu-kun introduced its main plot (the main characters getting together), and then proceeded to just shove in a ton of excuses for them NOT to (like a lot of shoujos do). DraconisMarch said: And these are pretty ignorable statementS (yes, the plural).There IS difference. And my comment IS relevant. Ignorable... how? It's pretty damn prevalent in the scheme of Tonari. Just because it happens a lot elsewhere doesn't mean it's not important to mention. That's just the way it is. DraconisMarch said: I made one comment initially (which you cried about), which is why I used the singular.Did the author finally start running out of ways to delay the story? |
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May 28, 2013 4:36 AM
#39
DraconisMarch said: Making shit up delays the end. That much is clear. So it is not "isn't delaying anything"Making shit up as you go isn't "delaying" anything because there's no clear or planned end. DraconisMarch said: Usually the author has some good idea of how he wants to end a series if it has gone on long enough. So making shit up along the way just delays the coming of ending. It's the result of just making more until it no longer sells, and THEN deciding to come up with an ending. That's different from having a clear ending, but just delaying arriving there. DraconisMarch said: Because Tonari is just like many other manga, a lot of them with much more volumes and going on for much longer, that also delay delay and delay. So your comments add little to the discussion.Ignorable... how? It's pretty damn prevalent in the scheme of Tonari. Just because it happens a lot elsewhere doesn't mean it's not important to mention. That's just the way it is. |
So MAL finally starts locking news threads that are only a few weeks old? I wonder where was the announcement of this change? Or we are seeing yet another case of changes made that impacted users but not communicated to them? I wonder how long people would put up with this. As much as I have a bunch of information to share about anime announced recently I cannot share it in news board, and the anime series is too disorganized and chaotic to share information except with people already interested in the particular series. |
May 28, 2013 10:08 AM
#40
symbv said: If you had nearly as much experience as you like to pretend to, you'd be aware of the abundance of rushed and poorly-developed endings that stem from shitty planning. This is because there wasn't a planned end, and so, they have to quickly fabricate one because their runtime is abruptly coming to a close.Usually the author has some good idea of how he [implying it's always a man?] wants to end a series if it has gone on long enough. symbv said: This sounds more like just your usual beef with any open criticism than anything. It's still relevant, and if you don't like it, too bad.DraconisMarch said: Because Tonari is just like many other manga, a lot of them with much more volumes and going on for much longer, that also delay delay and delay. So your comments add little to the discussion.Ignorable... how? It's pretty damn prevalent in the scheme of Tonari. Just because it happens a lot elsewhere doesn't mean it's not important to mention. That's just the way it is. |
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May 28, 2013 10:16 AM
#41
DraconisMarch said: Rushed endings usually come from manga forced to end by the publisher. This happens most often with Shonen Jump. Otherwise, the author usually has some GOOD IDEA of how he wants to end the series. Mind you: having some good idea just not mean the idea is necessarily good - the word good in "Some good idea" means "suitable" as in "I have good idea of what we are heading". Just in case you read it the wrong way. If you had nearly as much experience as you like to pretend to, you'd be aware of the abundance of rushed and poorly-developed endings that stem from shitty planning. DraconisMarch said: he [implying it's always a man?] Don't you know that "he" in English is often used as a pronoun for a person of unspecified gender?? That is called a generic singular pronoun. (yeah, I guess you hate seeing this word "generic" don't you?) And unless you are being overly politically correct who insists only "he/she" can be used or you just want to troll, I don't see why you could see a "he" as meaing that it is always a man. DraconisMarch said: More like poorly argued and biased criticism because you cannot distinguish that other manga are doing exactly the same thing that you are complaining about for this manga. Obstacles and detours are thrown in in shounen battle manga to delay the endings, just like obstacles and detours are thrown in in this shoujo romance manga, as in many other manga of other genres. So? This sounds more like just your usual beef with any open criticism than anything. It's still relevant, and if you don't like it, too bad. |
symbvMay 28, 2013 10:28 AM
So MAL finally starts locking news threads that are only a few weeks old? I wonder where was the announcement of this change? Or we are seeing yet another case of changes made that impacted users but not communicated to them? I wonder how long people would put up with this. As much as I have a bunch of information to share about anime announced recently I cannot share it in news board, and the anime series is too disorganized and chaotic to share information except with people already interested in the particular series. |
May 28, 2013 12:12 PM
#42
symbv said: "Often"? You mean as in: only used that way in quotes? Or are you just using a different "English" than everyone else? Nobody uses "he" to mean an unspecified gender in normal conversation. It's actually more common to use "they"--even though it's a plural pronoun and you're referring to a single person of unspecified gender. That's just how it is.DraconisMarch said: he [implying it's always a man?] Don't you know that "he" in English is often used as a pronoun for a person of unspecified gender?? symbv said: Uh... what? So now you're going to try to argue that my statement is false? Surely that's not what you're saying.More like poorly argued and biased criticism symbv said: It doesn't matter what other manga do. Just because others do it doesn't make that statement irrelevant. It doesn't make the criticism any less valid. Since you seem so intent on using other manga to attempt to write off relevant statements about the one at hand: You want to know what other manga also do? Not continue to pull excuses out of their asses for why the main couple can't get together.because you cannot distinguish that other manga are doing exactly the same thing that you are complaining about for this manga. Obstacles and detours are thrown in in shounen battle manga to delay the endings, just like obstacles and detours are thrown in in this shoujo romance manga, as in many other manga of other genres. So? Your poorly argued (irony) attempt at making my statement look bad would only work if every single manga were the same, and every single one took the same route of delaying the end as long as possible/making shit up as you go. It would only work if it were an intrinsic property of being a manga--like the fact that manga as a medium don't have sound. But since that most definitely isn't the case, your "other manga do it so it doesn't matter" argument is pretty sad. |
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May 28, 2013 12:39 PM
#43
DraconisMarch said: Well if I want to say a manga artist of unspecified gender, what should be used? He. Of course in some cases you can use a generic "they", but it has never been wrong to use a generic "he". In fact this was the more common usage in older days. "Often"? You mean as in: only used that way in quotes? Or are you just using a different "English" than everyone else? Nobody uses "he" to mean an unspecified gender in normal conversation. It's actually more common to use "they"--even though it's a plural pronoun and you're referring to a single person of unspecified gender. That's just how it is. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Singular_they#Generic_he Also Origin of the Concept of the Gender-Neutral Masculine Pronoun "It was [Ann] Fisher [author of A New Grammar, 1745] who promoted the convention of using he, him and his as pronouns to cover both male and female in general statements such as 'Everyone has his quirks.' To be precise, she says that 'The Masculine Person answers to the general Name, which comprehends both Male and Female; as, Any person who knows what he says.' This idea caught on. . . . The convention was bolstered by an Act of Parliament in 1850: in order to simplify the language used in other Acts, it was decreed that the masculine pronoun be understood to include both males and females." (Henry Hitchings, The Language Wars: A History of Proper English. Macmillan, 2011) So it is not incorrect to use "he" to refer to a person of indefinite gender. Now after the political correct movement, there is a tendency to use all kinds of tricks, including the generic "they", to avoid using a generic "he", either because of the users being political correct themselves or because of the fear of being called sexist. But it is never wrong to use generic "he" to refer to a singular person of indefinite gender, and your assumption that a generic "he" implies it is always a male only exposed your ignorance. DraconisMarch said: Did I say that your statement is false? Whether this manga drags on for too long is a matter of personal preference and I am not going to argue whether it is the case or not, but even assuming that it does, your targeting this manga and arguing that its delay is something worth a post to criticize is what I am objecting: that your criticism adds little when there are so many manga which also "delay the ending". symbv said: Uh... what? So now you're going to try to argue that my statement is false? Surely that's not what you're saying.More like poorly argued and biased criticism DraconisMarch said: Yeah, if you just want to throw in a platitude that can apply to many manga, of course you could say that. And my comment to that post of yours was to point out that your one sentence post is such platitude. It does not matter what other manga do. DraconisMarch said: Why should "every single manga were the same" is necessary to make your statement look bad? You already look bad if there are other manga (no need for "every single manga") who keep on delaying the end. Since there are so many manga which do this kind of "delay", your targeting of this manga just look poorly thought out and argued. A tendency to "delay the ending" does not have to be any intrinsic property of manga - just the commonness of it would be sufficient to make you look bad in singling out this manga for its "delay in ending". Your poorly argued (irony) attempt at making my statement look bad would only work if every single manga were the same, and every single one took the same route of delaying the end as long as possible/making shit up as you go. It would only work if it were an intrinsic property of being a manga--like the fact that manga as a medium don't have sound. But since that most definitely isn't the case, your "other manga do it so it doesn't matter" argument is pretty sad. |
symbvMay 28, 2013 12:52 PM
So MAL finally starts locking news threads that are only a few weeks old? I wonder where was the announcement of this change? Or we are seeing yet another case of changes made that impacted users but not communicated to them? I wonder how long people would put up with this. As much as I have a bunch of information to share about anime announced recently I cannot share it in news board, and the anime series is too disorganized and chaotic to share information except with people already interested in the particular series. |
May 31, 2013 10:25 PM
#44
Jun 1, 2013 3:03 AM
#45
scabab said: Episode 13 is a bit off from the manga, 1-12 are pretty much spot on so you can pretty much watch the anime, then pick up on chapter 17/book 5 of the manga and read it from there. With crap sales there won't be any more anime other than the side-story OVA which has nothing to do with the manga.This was on my plan to read list so I'll get about it reading it now that it's ending. Probably watch the anime first though. |
Jun 7, 2013 10:18 AM
#46
Aww.. :( At least it won't drag on |
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Jun 24, 2013 6:18 AM
#47
Spinoff coming! Natsume please! http://www.animenewsnetwork.com/news/2013-06-24/my-little-monster-spinoff-manga-to-launch-in-august |
Jun 24, 2013 8:34 AM
#48
hpulley said: Spinoff coming! Natsume please! http://www.animenewsnetwork.com/news/2013-06-24/my-little-monster-spinoff-manga-to-launch-in-august Ye, I think she deserves a spinoff in the future. Anyways, I'll keep an eye on that spinoff as well. |
Jun 24, 2013 5:20 PM
#49
Everything has to come to an end, yup it was a good manga nonetheless, I'm looking forward to the spinoff!! |
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