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May 16, 2013 4:04 PM
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We know How Johnny died. Anyway, I don't like him. The stand of Joshua has a good look.
May 19, 2013 12:14 AM
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It's brilliant how Jojolion kicks off with so many puzzles. Amnesia, main character identity issues, wall eyes, the Higashikata family and how SBR will fit into the story. Finally some back-story that will clear/mud things up. Is Johnny going to do the 'hit by his own attack' thing again?
May 19, 2013 4:51 AM
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Indeed, the mystery is great in Jojolion.
I'm a bit mad because it seems Araki killed off every protagonist in a part again (poor Johnny), but I'm glad my prediction from the first chapter about the corpse being still important was confirmed. We may end up with a family feud this way.

Araki should hurry and give us the names of the new Stands, though. I want a Lady Gaga Stand already.
Steel Ball Run anime when?
May 19, 2013 6:39 AM
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HOLY FUCKING CHRIST. THAT WAS A BLOODY GOOD CHAPTER.

I take back anything I may have said about Josuke being a slow but intelligent protagonist, he works really fast and is really sharp.

Does Johnny's death have anything to do with the extra Rolling Stones chapter in Vento Aureo?

Did giving Rina the body of Christ cause the Wall Eyes to spawn?

Is there any significance behind the Jizou being erected exactly 6 months prior for an event so long in the past?

And this solidifies my view that Johnny is my favorite. He actually was willing to sacrifice so many things for the people he loved. I wonder if a Caesar equivalent if appear, it didn't mention anything about Gyro having any sort of children or family though.

Legend of Johnny Joestar. That has a nice ring to it that Jonathan never had.
AnvicaMay 19, 2013 6:47 AM
May 19, 2013 10:39 AM
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dayum, I was glued to the screen reading the second half of this chapter. Intense shit, wonder where this is going...

Rina becoming sick reminded me of Holly in part 3.

Anvica said:

Does Johnny's death have anything to do with the extra Rolling Stones chapter in Vento Aureo?

What makes you think that? I see no connection.
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For a stand with an Italian user, it had Japanese written on it.
http://jjba.wikia.com/wiki/Rolling_Stones
MUST HAVE SOMETHING TO DO WITH ROCKS THAT KILL PEOPLE IN JAPAN 3 ARCS LATER, RIGHT?

http://jjba.wikia.com/wiki/Scolippi
My real reason is just me seeing a connection between "Scolippi can be considered to be an overt representation of Jesus Christ." and "Holy Corpse". The method of death was established as a stone on top of Johnny and since Araki had reused the fishing hook stand Beach Boys in the crane hook stand Wired in Steel Ball Run.

Also using similar concepts to depict the new universe as having similar souls like as the old universe, like "Since that's the same end Kars met in Part II, Magenta is most likely his alternate universe counterpart." I can't help but think that Johnny died to anything other than a stand's influence, and that since both deaths had to do with stones/rocks and Jesus Christ, that the connection might be there. I've always wondered why there was an epilogue after the actual story was over, and was trying to put this connection as the reason.

http://i.imgur.com/8iRj8Kt.jpg Rest In Peace Cowboy
http://i.imgur.com/xCfYs9e.jpg JOJOLion x Johnny Joestar
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Quickly re-reading the final SBR chapter (or rather flipping through it), how did Johnny even know where the corpse was? (I have to read it more carefully tomorrow, might have missed something)

And how was he planning on opening that vault?


It's also pretty funny how ugly Rina is in that chapter xD
May 20, 2013 2:34 AM
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grandy_UiD said:
Quickly re-reading the final SBR chapter (or rather flipping through it), how did Johnny even know where the corpse was? (I have to read it more carefully tomorrow, might have missed something)

Okay, I guess Steel or Lucy could've just told him.

Talking about Lucy I'm still not sure what exatly happened in the time between Dio's death and Steel's arrival in the church. It was never actually shown how the corpse was locked and I don't quite trust Lucy...her reaction to Steel saying it was right to lock the corpse was suspicious enough.
May 31, 2013 2:19 AM

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Araki should hurry and give us the names of the new Stands, though. I want a Lady Gaga Stand already.


Scratch that, just took a look at the newest volume. Apparently "Going Underground" is called "Born This Way" now, with Yasuho's Stand being called "Paisley Park". Renaming introduced Stands is a bit iffy and I'd hoped for yasuho to get a Gaga Stand and Holly Paisley Park, but I'm still happy Araki finally included her in his bizarre chronicles.
Steel Ball Run anime when?
Jun 11, 2013 3:30 AM

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NOOOOO....here we go again with the Corpse
Jun 23, 2013 2:42 PM

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This can't be so. Johnny killed by a rock..?

Anyway, why does Johnny has the same hat as Josuke? Just a "coincidence"?
Feb 23, 2014 6:43 AM

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No way can a Jojo's protagonist be killed by a rock. Come on, if he have to go down, it have to be in style or against something terrifyingly strong.
Jan 2, 2015 3:56 PM

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Well, Johnny should have learned Hamon instead of the Spin, since now he can't even lift that large rock!
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Man Johnny died young just like Jonathan from the other universe
How did Johnny get the corpse? wasn't it supposed to be super locked and no one would be able to get it out? or did they not actually lock it?
Looks like Funny Valentine was right about not letting Johnny have the corpse.
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Johnny died in Japan.
And it seems to have something to do with the corpse.
Dec 7, 2018 3:42 PM

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Damn, Johnny... Finally is revealed his story after Steel Ball Run Race...
It seems like Rina is going to be investigated by Yasuho and the old man from the pet shop is telling to Josuke all what he knows about the story.
Jul 21, 2019 1:32 PM

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Johnny Joestar
>has one of the most OP stands in JoJo
>gets killed by a falling rock

I'm quite sad though, he was one of my favourite Jojos (along with Part 4 Josuke and Jolyne)

I still don't understand how Josuke got the money though.
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I can't believe he seriously died by a boulder
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The mystery is strong in JoJolion! Johnny Joestar's adventure with Stands and the Holy Corpse didn't end with Steel Ball Run, it seems. Too bad he died like he died, but I'm curious what happened shortly before his death.
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Keeping Johnny alive during all SBR and then killing him by a rock is a shitty move, Araki
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Aw, man! Why did Johnny have to die like that? Sad....................

So we have more stuff related to the corpse? ok... Interesting.
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best chapter so far
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So Josuke's bubbles can even carry around bigger objects like money bills. That seems pretty useful! Wonder if he can even take it as far as carrying around a big piano and drop it on someone's head by popping the bubble, lol.

The Shakedown Road mystery still isn't completed, since we don't know the user yet.

But the Johnny thing is more interesting anyway because holy shit, we got so much information about him. So exactly like his other universe counterpart, Jonathan, he was doomed with a short life. God damn it.

So he's going to use the corpse to heal his wife huh.
Aug 18, 2021 8:33 AM

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ohnewnew said:
best chapter so far


Could you tell me the link for that Makima header you have? It's fire.




Aug 18, 2021 9:59 AM

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Paul_Foreign said:
ohnewnew said:
best chapter so far


Could you tell me the link for that Makima header you have? It's fire.


sure and thx

https://i.imgur.com/qPb5R76.gif
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ohnewnew said:
Paul_Foreign said:


Could you tell me the link for that Makima header you have? It's fire.


sure and thx

https://i.imgur.com/qPb5R76.gif


Thanks! Just discovered I can right click the image and open in new tab. smh.




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Can't say I'm thrilled that my Johnny, probably my favourite JoJo character, seemingly had such a pathetic death, but at least he got a peaceful happy life for a little bit with his wife.

Shakedown Road was a great arc though. I really liked different it was, not combat related, not even a Stand User, just a stand power that anyone is capable of using (though mostly the residents). Really cool idea, and for the first time had that sense of community that Part 4 carried (further felt by the old man's talk with Jo2uke after).

I loved seeing the mystery be solved, as Joshu put all the pieces together and tired to use it to his own advantage because he's a dick. Jo2uke completely winning and making a point to say he completely won was awesome too. Probably my favourite "fight" thus far in this part.
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Haha Josuke with the "I won completely"
That was a good fight.

Shakedown Road was a great idea. I liked it. Something even the non stand users can use to their advantage without knowing what stands are.

Interested to know more about Johnny's death. Surely, he can't have been killed by a boulder. Right? Right??
Jan 29, 2022 9:56 AM

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Wow man im speechless i cant believe Johnny died like that lmao. This part is the most interesting part for sure its so entertaining and interesting i cant stop reading it. Amazing.
Sorry for my english xD!

RIP Kentaro Miura :(
RIP Akira Toriyama :(

Jun 24, 2022 11:38 AM

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so we see johnny in this,knew he had come to morioh at some point an damn the way he got killed was brutal :(
and johnny really is a fine gentleman to be unearthing the corpse to save his beloved
Aug 20, 2022 2:21 PM
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Johnny died horribly. But more than that Johnny unearthing the corpse was a shitty move
Jan 7, 2023 2:33 AM

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this is how he dies? what a sick jocke :(
Feb 21, 2023 6:33 AM
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love the reference to johnny joestar AND THE HOLY CORPSE
Apr 9, 2023 10:03 PM

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Nut King Call lmao nice pun
Jun 29, 2023 10:43 PM
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There goes Johnny being selfish again but he gotta do what he gotta do.
Oct 8, 2023 5:01 PM
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WOW! So that's how Johnny died... very creepy. I feel like this mystery will play a big part in the story
Nov 29, 2023 4:04 PM

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I always found Johnny to not be the best "hero" honestly in SBR there were no heros apart from Valentine a man who would do anything to help his nation. And OG world Diego who just wanted a normal life as mayor of Manhattan, Gyro as well. Still it is sad to see him die but Johnny doesn't really compare to Joseph and Jolyne.
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CEASA- i mean JOHNNYYYYYYYYYYYYYY!!!!!
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Damn, this chapter had insane reveals. The corpse is still relevant in this part. Sad, that johnny had a brutal death. So was he killed as a result of bringing the corpse over?
Rina seems to have the same disease that holly has. whats up with that?

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