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Oct 22, 2011 7:04 AM
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THIS IS AN ANIME ONLY DISCUSSION POST. DO NOT DISCUSS THE MANGA BEYOND THIS EPISODE.
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Trap is getting lower on ranking and they are thinking of improving.

More competitors...

lol @ new mangaka who gave up working in the office.

The manager doesn't want them to change, and not care about the ranking. And one of the assistants not trusting him.

Niizuma liking Trap as a not-so-Jack series (suitable style), "interesting".
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Oct 22, 2011 8:20 AM
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Hmm, what a touch decision making there.

In a way, it feels like making decision of whether you should sell your stock when the stock price has dropped three weeks in a row as you can sometime overlook your long-term goal by focusing too much on your short-term goal. Sometimes, constantly looking at your stock price chart would cause you to make hasty bad decision, just like getting informed of popularity ranking at Jack.

Anyway, this episode really focused on manager Miura and I think he has become more likeable character after this episode. :)

Oct 22, 2011 6:04 PM
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Ah, 24 minute episodes are too short...
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Oct 22, 2011 6:27 PM
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Fucking Miura.
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Oct 22, 2011 7:06 PM
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Good episode.
I hope their manga gets better.
Oct 22, 2011 7:21 PM
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I'm glad they're staying true to their manga and their style even if it means 'the end'.
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Oct 22, 2011 8:07 PM
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Wow. This was an interesting episode.
Oct 22, 2011 10:32 PM
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good episode,

their editor is finally getting serious =D

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Oct 23, 2011 12:38 AM
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Good episode... Never compromise your creative work out of fear.
Oct 23, 2011 1:27 AM

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It was a nice episode :)
I hope TRAP would get better next time.

After all, manga is a gamble.
Oct 23, 2011 1:43 AM

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That's it guys, make Trap a success through good writing, solid plot, and engaging characters--just like Bakuman...
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Oct 23, 2011 2:35 AM
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Good chapter. It explains why some Jump mangas start off good and original, but then become the generic boring shounen mangas.
Oct 23, 2011 2:55 AM

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live as a pro mangaka is hard they learn it the hard way.
Oct 23, 2011 6:13 AM

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An pretty good episode. Not much to say about it really.
Oct 23, 2011 6:34 AM

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Er, random curiosity but I lol'd to this screenshot. Mouton Bantivirus 2015, really now?


I want more Hiramaru.
Oct 23, 2011 8:53 AM

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LOL is that Saikorsoft EXL?

Nice episode, love everyones expressions. Saiko is always the calmest of Ashirogi Muto, Ive just noticed.
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Oct 23, 2011 9:39 AM

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Interesting episode about manga rankings ;3
So, Shinta's and Nakai's manga are getting released - cool, I wonder which one will be on the top :3
This, and Eiji and Hiramaru are so funny xD
Oct 23, 2011 9:48 AM

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That was really a tough decision but still I'm doubting with the results.
Oct 23, 2011 10:03 AM

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It was an interesting episode
I hope TRAP will get better result next time
I'm excited to see the next episode
Oct 23, 2011 10:40 AM

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That was intense. I'm glad they stuck with their guns because as a fan of the mystery genre, I wouldn't like it if the mysteries are lame because they tried to cram everything into one chapter.
Oct 23, 2011 12:00 PM

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really nice episode, i can see that they aren't fully trust muira, but at least mashiro understood. Takagi does have his points to though.
anways, nice episode, LOL'd at nakai having that "BIG BABY FACE" chin!!! XD
Oct 23, 2011 12:01 PM

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I hope TRAPs results get better next time.
And its nice to see the editor finally get serious.
Oct 23, 2011 3:04 PM

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Oh my god when Hiramura busted into Nizuma's studio..I died xD He's like 10 years older than him or something and like totally relies in his ass LOL

Oct 23, 2011 5:03 PM

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I like the decision they made.... better to stick with what's in your heart and work hard... than become a sellout.
Oct 23, 2011 8:15 PM
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MusashiRose said:
I like the decision they made.... better to stick with what's in your heart and work hard... than become a sellout.

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Plus they would most likely fail...a sudden change, no time to plan things out, no way that would work.
There was a time in the episode that I thought 'Have they forgotten what really matters?' If they want to change Jump, they just have to make an interesting manga. Miura finally said something...coherent, reasoning, useful?!

Nizuma's awesome as always.
Hiramura's negativity's so funny. Poor guy doesn't like to work. Became a mangaka, just because some day that happened to cross his mind. Realised that it was even harder!
LOL @ Nakai's face. roundly shiny~



Oct 24, 2011 12:14 PM

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I couldn't tell who was talking in the preview.
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Oct 25, 2011 5:10 AM

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I like how Miura gets all serious after how stupid he looks at the start.
Oct 25, 2011 3:24 PM

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Go TRAP! Go!!
Oct 31, 2011 4:39 AM

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Episode give a bit of an education to me. Not bad at all. I like how the anime is progressing.
Nov 3, 2011 3:45 AM

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Hiramaru ftw. Fukuda ftw. Eiji ftw. GOD, I JUST LOVE ALL THESE SUPPORTING CHARACTERS. ♥

Anyway, I hope TRAP gets higher rankings with the decision they chose. :bd
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Dec 1, 2011 5:11 PM

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I love how the manga storyline is closely followed !
Feb 3, 2012 11:30 AM
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good ep :)
Mar 23, 2012 1:13 PM

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It seems like I was the only one to notice one of the editors running off to somewhere during the final scene of the episode.
I wonder what's up with that.
May 11, 2012 5:44 PM

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The idea about making each chapter solve a mystery was freakin stupid. The route they're taking right now is much better for the long run in my opinion.
Sep 6, 2012 2:34 AM

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Miura is the most worthless piece of crap. Couldn't stand how he made idiots of them in the manga, can't stand it here either.
Sep 18, 2012 8:28 AM

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This reminds me of the route games go when they are desperate to make more money. They try to copy Call of Duty, but that just makes the fans of the other genre mad because they are just reading more of the same. If you're a mystery, stick to being a mystery. You need buildup, its not all about ranking.

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Oct 3, 2012 9:28 AM

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Damn Miura, I want Hattori back, that guy is amazing imo.
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This reminds me of the route games go when they are desperate to make more money. They try to copy Call of Duty, but that just makes the fans of the other genre mad because they are just reading more of the same. If you're a mystery, stick to being a mystery. You need buildup, its not all about ranking.

Oh yeah, I loved the early Splinter Cell series up to Chaos Theory, but after that it got more fast-paced shooting rather than planning out your attacks and using stealth. It sucks now imo and they even removed the good multiplayer game modes.
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Nov 25, 2012 2:55 PM

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Nice episode. By my standards, I'd say that Mashiro and Takagi has a pretty good chance even though their rankings in chapters have been going down. I hope they can step things up though.
May 26, 2013 12:25 PM

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This has a pretty nice pace to it. I wonder how difficult getting an anime adaptation will be.
Dec 10, 2013 5:32 PM

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Quite decent episode, even though their ranking is dropping they're going to go for it and that's great! It does seem that this second season has a slower pace but well let's see what's next!
Dec 20, 2013 6:43 AM

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Very nice ep
Jan 20, 2014 10:58 PM

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Miura definitely isn't as reliable as Hattori : /
Jan 21, 2014 8:54 PM

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It's cool to know that Fukuda and Nakai/Aoki effort are rewarded, even if it was a bit too fast in my opinion.

That episode had me stressed. They were really lost and I really thought that what Muira said would destroy them, but Mashiro understood the meaning behind Eiji word. I'm glad that they continue to go at the opposite of Jack/Jump mentality.
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Miura is just the worst. He got the brain and appearance of a meatball.

Kinda confused at the editor-in-chief here : in what world does "in this case the editor should not be directing the author" translate into "Miura, be more self-confident. Don't show your doubt in front of them." ... That's just encouraging him to be more uncompromising.
Mar 27, 2016 11:37 PM

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Current Editor is too much optimistic . It might get on the way . Change it .
They need to get their selves straight or else they will lose their spot .
It's about balancing everything . Not to rush nor do anything . It's being neutral .
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I love this seasons op and ed they are both so great.
Dec 16, 2019 12:51 AM

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Good episode, I just hope Miura won't be the cause of their downfall!
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Oct 1, 2020 12:50 PM

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I agree with Miura too. Keeping Trap as a genuine mystery manga is much more interesting that turning it into a typical battle manga, even if it may get cancelled.
Oct 31, 2020 9:31 PM

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I agree on Miura actually and glad they agree on the end. I also think that it will be a disaster if they will suddenly change their path just to get a high rank. Mystery takes time and always needs a build-up. Yes it’s good to be mindful of your rank but they should remember that there’s a lot of manga featured in Jack and they are not the only one with good story. Though I hope Miura can’t be too optimistic because sometimes it’s not good lol.
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Good episode with a new interesting conflict that's going to be around for the rest of the series given that Mashiro and Takagi are both professional mangaka serializing weekly in Shounen Jump. The rankings.

Like Fukuda said earlier in the anime run, Jump analyze rankings really closely and are willing to pull the trigger on cancellations very early on if rankings are low, even if the stories are slow-building or are really well written/drawn. It's a popularity system that runs like a machine where every few weeks, the bottom of the pile gets extorted and replaced by new serializations constantly. Mashiro and Takagi didn't start red hot and in their 3rd week, ended up with mediocre rankings at 9th. So they're questioning their direction whether to continue the way they're going and hope to stabilize while maintaining the integrity of their tone and themes, or try to make it more shounen-like to desperately raise the ranks temporarily for survival and compromise the identity of Shady Detective TRAP in the process. Big decisions here for them, and even their editor Miura who is in the hot seat, especially since he believes in survival for the long run with his mindset, over rising to the top.

It was good though that Mashiro decided to continue doing what they're doing and not change up the style and tone, thereby retaining TRAP as a genuine mystery manga and not turn it to a gag or battle manga of sorts. Niizuma's words of encouragement and praise for Takagi's stories were what actually convinced him, but its good to not rush so quickly, especially since its your first serialized manga with the company so its easy to be desperate and not think with a calm mind. The luck will come soon as long as you really believe in your own works and feel like it's genuinely got the quality to attract interest over time.
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