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| THIS IS AN ANIME ONLY DISCUSSION POST. DO NOT DISCUSS THE MANGA BEYOND THIS EPISODE. ---------------------------------------- Well...that solves pretty much everything. You'd think the end of the world would be the last ep, but we've still got some left. Everything happened so suddenly. Next ep looks...rather brutal. |
| Bantorra had a weak start but the final episodes are great. It's a shame that a better studio wasn't chosen to adapt the novel. |
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| Great story! This has been, a very epic series... Not the best thing that came out, but it was good. Better than I had hoped. Jeez I'm talking like it's over. It sorta feel like this was the final episode though. I know we still got two coming. But I would have liked a 'everyone dies' ending. But I'm shure most people wouldn't... GREAT EPISODE! The director looks is kinda gay though. |
| "Never imagine yourself not to be otherwise than what it might appear to others that what you were or might have been was not otherwise than what you had been would have appeared to them to be otherwise" |
| Quite ironic that the episodes that I experienced as rather unsatisfying get a positive remark right away...^^° Yeah the episode was cool in it's over the top'ness but it's really a bit sad that they had to rush through 2 whole volumes like that...some characters just vanished along the way. It's a shame that a better studio wasn't chosen to adapt the novel. Honestly I think up to episode 22 they did a marvelous job...then it seems they realized they couldn't do a second season and decided to cram everything left into the final 4 episodes (and do a 27th one). I don't know if any other studio would have done better?! DEEN might have had the guts to actually take a break after volume 6 (and possibly never continue), but it wouldn't have looked as good. Bones light novel adaptions look good but often turn out awfull...remember Scrapped Princess?! Kyôani is not the type of studio to do mature stuff like that. Madhouse series are almost never long enough for light novel adaptions. I think Davidproduction proved quite capable with Bantorra...as far as money allowed. |
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Honestly I think up to episode 22 they did a marvelous job...then it seems they realized they couldn't do a second season and decided to cram everything left into the final 4 episodes (and do a 27th one). I don't know if any other studio would have done better?! DEEN might have had the guts to actually take a break after volume 6 (and possibly never continue), but it wouldn't have looked as good. Bones light novel adaptions look good but often turn out awfull...remember Scrapped Princess?! Kyôani is not the type of studio to do mature stuff like that. Madhouse series are almost never long enough for light novel adaptions. I think Davidproduction proved quite capable with Bantorra...as far as money allowed. Well, judging from your response, You probably read the novel. I didn't and was utterly confused about the plot development until about the recap chapter. I'm curious whether rather bland visuals are because of the budget or the staff. Their previous anime isn't anything to boast about (at least Dogs). An why not MadHouse, they did well with Death Note and do generally well with complex plots. It looks like that anime will end with this season anyway. And DEEN..no, please, God, no. |
"There is a road in the hearts of all of us, hidden and seldom traveled, which leads to an unknown, secret place." |
| Looks like Matt killed Fhotona, which is pretty cool. And this episode just showed how badass he really is, shooting himself to make sure he wouldn't sleep. Just sucked to see his dead corpse along with Enlike and Hamy in the preview of the next episode. I'm starting to understand what's happening, but I've no idea about what's going to happen in the next three episodes. I can't even imagine. If everyone dies in the next episode, what's going to happen at the last two? :| Matt was the main reason to keep me watching this, and I'm fine if he dies now. He had his moments and was really important, not to mention that Hamy was thinking of him at the end of the last episode. I hope for a resolution of their relationship in the next episode. |
| For my first tough, loli Hamyuts was a busty lady already. But seeing how everyone's talking about the ending already and how the story wraps up, I can't resist, but do the same. Tatakau Shisho have been an unexpectedly great series. It probably won't ever get to be well known basically for the graphics, the non-existent hype and the weird plot development, but I doubt a lot of people up to 20, or so episodes would say it's a bad anime. It didn't impress me at all till episode 4, then we had a bunch of weird episodes up till 13-15, but all that was for the plot aswell. Will probably rewatch it in DVD quality later. |
| so hamyuts has been that way all her life, huh? and the real director of the bantorra library shows up, and hes going to kill the entire world! |
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kashim said: Well, judging from your response, You probably read the novel. I didn't and was utterly confused about the plot development until about the recap chapter. I'm curious whether rather bland visuals are because of the budget or the staff. Their previous anime isn't anything to boast about (at least Dogs). An why not MadHouse, they did well with Death Note and do generally well with complex plots. It looks like that anime will end with this season anyway. And DEEN..no, please, God, no. Well, I started reading them after episode 4 or 5, still I wasn't that confused by the plot, just found it pretty interesting. After starting to read I also started to notice why it reminded me so heavily of The Neverending Story. Well the 'bland visuals' weren't that bland for me... The characterdesign is taken straight from the novels and they also did a fairly good job of executing the descriptions of sorroundings. I liked it that they stayed with the idea that this world has this rather gloomy shadow cast over everything, almost resembling the world at the bring of the 20th century and WW1. Well Madhouse is a mixed bag, most of their adaptions are turned into 12/13 episode series once it's not that popular. I liked Môryô no Hako for example, but they heavily cut down the plot to make it fit. The only faithful adaption they did was Monster, which was really hyper-faithful. And no, I thought, apart from the music and some visuals, that the Death Note anime was horrible. And DEEN...well yeah it's a 70:30 chance of going very wrong, but you have to hand it to them (in the case of Higurashi and Umineko) that they had the guts to actually stop at a certain point. |
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| I liked this episode a lot...and is it just me or does the post man look a lot like the old Acting Director? seizonsha do you have any links where I can read the novels? |
| The spring I met you, The spring without you. |
RinM said: seizonsha do you have any links where I can read the novels? Right now I don't know any... Well, more importantly, can you read Japanese? They're not translated so far. |
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seizonsha said: Right now I don't know any... Well, more importantly, can you read Japanese? They're not translated so far. Ah no...I don't know to read Japanese :( Thanks |
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| I really have no clue how anyone can think this was a good episode. And I find it a stretch that anyone would call this a good show. This episode does what most others do: throw in lots of information and little context. Now, since this is rather close to the end, all of that context is finally framing some sort of picture, but for it to be so incomplete at the climax is still very, very ridiculous. To find out who Ruruta Coozoncoona is in this manner severely dampened the effect that it should have had. I just thought, "Ok, another plot device that I didn't know about until it's supposed to cause mass destruction. Why not?" At the end of the day, the only thing special about the show is Hamyuts. Everything else is so mind-numbingly banal or executed terribly. And I really do mean everything else. I can't think of a single good feature the show has besides Hamyuts, and even she wasn't handled all that well. |
| @noteDhero: Do you like any show? Like...at all?! |
| Waiting for: God Eater (PSP) 私が、探偵だからよ。 |
| Of all the shows that I'm currently watching, I like FMA: Brotherhood, Durarara, Katanagatari, Bakemonogatari, Kimi ni Todoke, Hidamari Sketch x Hoshimittsu, Nodame Cantabile Finale, Yumeiro Patissiere, Sunred 2, Winter Sonata, Cross Game, and Naruto Shippuuden (when it isn't in filler). That doesn't mean that individual episodes won't bother me, though. |
| ^ Well that makes six of anime we shared noteDhero XD So i supposed i can call that director is the last boss eh? at least we shall see the last boss past next week, And unconsciously i yelled "eeq" when Hamy killed that girl..man that was good no i don't mean it's good to kill..but you know |
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noteDhero said: Of all the shows that I'm currently watching, I like FMA: Brotherhood, Durarara, Katanagatari, Bakemonogatari, Kimi ni Todoke, Hidamari Sketch x Hoshimittsu, Nodame Cantabile Finale, Yumeiro Patissiere, Sunred 2, Winter Sonata, Cross Game, and Naruto Shippuuden (when it isn't in filler). That doesn't mean that individual episodes won't bother me, though. Well okay, judging by that I would say this is just not your cup of tea, but that's just my interpretation. I also like Durarara (even though the anime is a bit boring) and Bakemonogatari. Katanagatari is kind of a mixed bag, most of the time it's to bland for my taste. And I stopped watching FMA because I already read the Manga. The rest is so NOT my type of anime. Sometimes I try watching them, but I would never comment on them because their just not my type... |
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kariohki said: Well...that solves pretty much everything. You'd think the end of the world would be the last ep, but we've still got some left. Everything happened so suddenly. Next ep looks...rather brutal. That's definitely an impressive start for the final arc as I expected (although I thought Hamyuts would continue her destruction work on every other character of the series), and quite a great one at that. I can't even begin to imagine how they'll end all of this apart from some Texhnolyze-styled conclusion. I really like the series despite the fact that I'm confused most of the time with the script and chara-developemnts, but well, I'm pretty sure everything will come in place at the end. |
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Laevantein said: And unconsciously i yelled "eeq" when Hamy killed that girl..man that was good no i don't mean it's good to kill..but you know I cheered to myself. I can always count on Hamyuts to do/say what I want. seizonsha said: Well okay, judging by that I would say this is just not your cup of tea, but that's just my interpretation. I also like Durarara (even though the anime is a bit boring) and Bakemonogatari. Katanagatari is kind of a mixed bag, most of the time it's to bland for my taste. And I stopped watching FMA because I already read the Manga. The rest is so NOT my type of anime. Sometimes I try watching them, but I would never comment on them because their just not my type... I'll admit that when I read the synopsis and watched the first episode, I knew I wasn't going to like what I was going to see, but sometimes I get taken by surprise (like with Higurashi and Hunter x Hunter), so I stick around if there are elements that I like. Hamyuts and her mysterious aura was enough to keep me watching, in this case. Despite her boobs. |
| I felt this episode is a bit romantic....should i feel romantic or hopelessness??eternal tragic? I thinking of reading the novel also...5 volume izzit?? Tatakau Shisho to Koi Suru Bakudan Tatakau Shisho to Kuroari to Meikyuu Tatakau Shisho to Kami no Sekiken Tatakau Shisho to Tsuisou no Majo Tatakau Shisho to Ikazuti no Gusha |
MorningGloryMar 13, 2010 5:11 PM
| My god. When you think a show can't get any worse, it just goes to lengths to prove you wrong. Congrats Bantorra, you are now on 2/10. The only other anime I gave that score to was 11eyes, and this is equally deserving. So I guess this ep answered the question I was asking for awhile; just who the blonde chick in the OP is. She's the person this random Ruruta guy likes or whatev. I still wanna know how she's connected to Hamutz and why Hamutz wears her hair the same way, though. Matt killed Photona? Only makes him more awesome. :D I would also like to know how Matt got the scar across his nose. We saw him without it during the flashbacks of when he met Hamutz, but every other flashback has shown him with it, so it just makes me unnecessarily curious haha. Honestly, this show could have been so much better. It just needs better writing, pacing, and character development/characterisation. Lol so actually the only good thing about it is its premise. |
| (statement above)For me, I can't tell a anime is good or not unless i watch it within a short period of time because there are too many on-airing anime interfering my scoring.I will score 10 whenever an anime are easy to watch within a short period of time.There no way you can(unless your memory is good) know how's the anime pace(is good or not) when you watching every week. |
gloryfy said: I felt this episode is a bit romantic....should i feel romantic or hopelessness??eternal tragic? I thinking of reading the novel also...5 volume izzit?? No actually there are 10 volumes and you got the order a bit wrong. 戦う司書と恋する爆弾 (The Armed Librarians and A Bomb falls in Love) (Episode 01-04) 戦う司書と雷の愚者 (The Armed Librarians and the Thundering Fool) (Episode 06-09) 戦う司書と黒蟻の迷宮 (The Armed Librarians and the Labyrinth of Black Ants) (Episode 10-11)) 戦う司書と神の石剣 (The Armed Librarians and the Stone Sword of God) (Episode 13&15) 戦う司書と追想の魔女 (The Armed Librarians and the Witch of Recollection) (Episode 17-19) 戦う司書と荒縄の姫君 (The Armed Librarians and the Strawrope Princess) (Episode 20-22) 戦う司書と虚言者の宴 (The Armed Librarians and the Banquet of Liars) (Episode 23) 戦う司書と終章の獣 (The Armed Librarians and the Beast at the End of the Book) (Episode 24) 戦う司書と絶望の魔王 (The Armed Librarians and the Demon King of Despair) 戦う司書と世界の力 (The Armed Librarians and the Power of the World) I'm not totally sure about the Insert-Episodes about the characters anymore, I think they were not condensed into one chapter each in the novel... By the way, I'm thinking about starting a translation project of Tatakau Shisho in the near future (in about a month or so)...I hope there will be people wanting to read it. |
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seizonsha said: By the way, I'm thinking about starting a translation project of Tatakau Shisho in the near future (in about a month or so)...I hope there will be people wanting to read it. I think I don't mind helping with translation if needed, unless the books are too difficult (doubt it). Any help with finding those novels is much appreciated. *wink wink hint hint* The episode was awesome. I'm looking forward to see the rest. Hamy's one of the best anime characters I've ever seen (well, maybe too busty for me, but...). Also Mr Coozancoona looks kinda handsome. Tee hee. |
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KathyKaboom said: Well let us see YOU do it then.. I wish! Anyone know a way to get me into the industry? :P KathyKaboom said: lol For someone who hates Bantorra and doesn't care much about the characters, you sure do a lot of babli-babli-babling about it. Who said I hated the show? I'm saying it isn't a very good show. Calling a show out on its failings does not mean I "hate" it. I will admit, though, that I have commented about/on the show quite a lot. That's because I felt it had promise, and despite it not quite hitting the mark, I watch every week with the (somewhat vain) hope that it will. gloryfy said: There no way you can(unless your memory is good) know how's the anime pace(is good or not) when you watching every week. I don't agree. Most anime is made to a weekly schedule, and I believe that the writing/pacing should reflect that. (Hence lots of cliffhangers at the end of episodes; how else will they get viewers to want to wait a week to watch the next episode?) Bantorra suffers from trying to adapt so much novel material too quickly. For those of us who haven't read the novels, we are introduced to characters in one episode and then they are killed off in the next 2-3. And we, as viewers, are supposed to care? The same thing happened in this episode and the last couple: suddenly, there is an information dump, and "secrets" are revealed, i.e. random characters pop up and fill-in the blanks left in the plot. And, once again, us viewers are supposed to nod and take it in and not bat an eyelash. Despite a previous comment of mine in one of the other discussions saying I didn't want one, Bantorra would have benefited from a second season. The arcs could have been longer, the characterisation more fleshed out, and more hints as to what was actually going on could have been introduced. (Rather than saying, "Oh, character XY, who you have never heard of before now, is actually behind it all".) It's just shitty writing/pacing. I guess I'm more frustrated about Bantorra than I thought, haha. |
yamakasiMar 14, 2010 6:11 AM
yamakasi said: Who said I hated the show? I'm saying it isn't a very good show. Calling a show out on its failings does not mean I "hate" it. I will admit, though, that I have commented about/on the show quite a lot. That's because I felt it had promise, and despite it not quite hitting the mark, I watch every week with the (somewhat vain) hope that it will. Maybe it's just not fullfilling your expectations. It's nothing wrong to feel let down by a show, I felt the same thing with the Durarara adaption or Haruhi in general (because everyone told me it was the best). But that's no instant proof that the show is no good in general. I think if people would just take the time to elaborate why it was bad, instead of filling lines on lines on lines with empty phrases, then it could be far more beneficial. I could also just burst into a Death Note thread and complain about the anime being awfull (to me)...but what does it matter if I don't explain. EDIT: Ah, okay, you editet some stuff while I was writing this, sorry. I agree that the sudden speed-up after episode 22 was a rather bad decision. But as it seems it is either ending on a cliffhanger and maybe never continuing or stuffing everything in. Like the novels the anime doesn't exactly seem to be a blockbuster hit. And compared to many other recent adaptions, I think they are doing a rather good job, as they at least keep the story intact (Ôkamikakushi *cough*cough*). rilwena said: I think I don't mind helping with translation if needed, unless the books are too difficult (doubt it). They're not exactly difficult. Some descriptions so far I had to look up (I'm already trying a bit here and there, but going slow because of a paper I have to finish first), but apart from that it's typical young adult fiction regarding the language. Me and my best friend will try our luck with the translation first I think, but if you wanna be proofreader and maybe edit some stuff we get wrong it would help...as we're both no native English-speakers. But releasing the translation in anything else than English would be useless. |
seizonshaMar 14, 2010 6:10 AM
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seizonsha said: I'm not totally sure about the Insert-Episodes about the characters anymore, I think they were not condensed into one chapter each in the novel... Episode 1 is mostly adapted from novel vol.5 (Volken first showed up and then died in this novel) Episode 5 is anime original. (In the novel, Mirepoc drank water of Argax because she was shocked by the news of Volken killed his mentor) Episode 12 adapted from novel vol.8. Episode 16 is also anime original. (Yukizona and Yuki first showed up in novel vol.6 and played important roles in novel vol.7&8) Episode 23's first half is adapted from novel vol.7. (Librarians suspected Hamy about Volken's death) The second half is partially anime original (Makia and Chacoly died before Hamy became the acting director), partially adapted from novel vol.8. (Hamy's past) Episode 24 is adapted from novel vol.8. Judging from the preview of episode 25, I guess it will be mostly adapted from novel vol.9 with some content from vol.8. Then episode 26-27 will be adapted from novel vol.10. (the title of episode 27 is also the title of novel vol.10) |
| @CTR251: Ah thank you...so far I only skipped through volume 8-10 because I didn't exactly have the time. Yeah right the attack on the ship was volume 5...I knew something was off, but sometimes I mix anime and novel continuity up a bit. Well so there are other people who read it. @yamasaka: Sorry, didn't see your edit. And yeah of course there are also moments where people elaborate, but mostly only after they vented their anger with a 'it's all stupid' post. |
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| The last boss is kind of .. lame.. :| |
yamakasi said: I would also like to know how Matt got the scar across his nose. We saw him without it during the flashbacks of when he met Hamutz, but every other flashback has shown him with it, so it just makes me unnecessarily curious haha. Dude what are you talking about..He had a scar then as well... |
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| I think you just don't understand sarcasm. |
| This was a good episode, this show is F crazy. Too bad we saw their dead corpses on next ep preview, but it still looks great. Let's see what happens... |
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KathyKaboom said: Harsh..very harsh.don't wake people from their dream....HAHA i just notice my signature below are the perfect word for it ^^ be Happy |
| I don't know what to think....This can turn out to be very good or very bad. I'm afraid we'll have a" typical lame last boss battle", but looking at what Bantorra showed us till now, i think they'll surprise us (or so i hope). Leaving that part aside, i'm enjoying the tale. I really like some points of the mythology they created and i also believe many aspects have a huge potential for an interesting story. P.S. The scene when the whole world falls asleep - i immediately thought: "sleeping beauty" lol |
| young Hamyuts was busty....and awesome alsoooo Ruruta reminds me of Noein xD |
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kashim said: I totally agree, yet the end of the world so soon ><Bantorra had a weak start but the final episodes are great. It's a shame that a better studio wasn't chosen to adapt the novel. |
| so we finally learn about hamy's past and the objective cholaty (i still can't remember her name) and the end of the world is approaching... ruruta coocohansnfozo looks like he's gonna make everything go craaay. |
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| I sure wasn't expecting that he would be in the tree! Seems everything is out now... Amazing development they sure got their buildup to the end mastered! |
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| So the actual director shows up, makes sense. I must say Heaven's reasoning to end the world are so...stereotypically human. Lover dies so you go berserk. |
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noteDhero said: Naruto Shippuuden (when it isn't in filler). as if it's good without them. yamakasi said: Who said I hated the show? I'm saying it isn't a very good show. Calling a show out on its failings does not mean I "hate" it. I will admit, though, that I have commented about/on the show quite a lot. That's because I felt it had promise, and despite it not quite hitting the mark, I watch every week with the (somewhat vain) hope that it will. i don't hate it, but it does feel like a lot of stuff is missing from the show. ---- finally, the white guy comes like at the last part of the show. i saw a promo pic for this show and i decided to watch it just because of him. to know that he was the one that killed bantorra...sheesh how strong is he?!?!? he seems very dangerous, and i think he may even kill hamy! the unwrapping of this episode was nicely done, one of the few best of the show. |
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| In the end everything doesn't really matter There's only one enemy left and a grand final Maybe fighting against each other was purely to relieve boredom for what's going to come |
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| I must say I don't care about the armed librarians at all. I only want to know about Hamyuts and why she is like she is. That's the only interesting thing left for this show. |
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| Finally get to see Chacoly's past with Hamy. Also, the end music really does sound like Death Note. I was wondering if it's the same composers. You can tell, Hamy's time is coming :( |
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