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Apr 20, 4:35 PM

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MyllerPhiem said:
I assume this is Netflix/Amazon's influence, sigh.


Netflix/Amazon/Adult swim didn’t influence anything.
The director Watanabe always had diverse characters in his shows since cowboy bebop.
@Old_School_Akira No, read the posting above, that's literally replying to your bs.
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Apr 20, 4:44 PM

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Queue the transphobes getting mad at trans people simply existing in media
Apr 20, 4:47 PM
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well, its certainly getting interesting

but who a guy that causing the end of the world, it doesn't look like anyone or any organization is doing anything about it, except our mc and his group, that's kinda weird

at least the action and animation is top notch
Apr 20, 5:17 PM

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It would be funny if this episode actually showed Skinner and the pill was really the antidote.
Apr 20, 5:25 PM
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The episode was fun and the characterization was good, but it felt like little happened at all. It wasn't a bad episode, but I wanted more. . .
Apr 20, 5:26 PM

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Doug, look! That's Skinner, he's right there with glasses and a hat! He's right there! Even Dora the Explorer isn't that blind.


Every little object or detail makes me think it's going to be important, like the pill Christine found or the flower at Skinner's grandmother's house. I don't think Skinner is the one who rigged the camera, so maybe he's one of the hackers Eleina mentioned. Maybe someone is helping him after all.
Apr 20, 6:29 PM

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I've noticed that the Amazon subs don't match what characters are saying in Japanese, like in the scene where Doug says "Huh?" in reply to Axel saying he can help if the professor was homeless, the subtitles say "Great".

Also the "In laymen terms, please" Joss Whedonism scene made me cringe.
Apr 20, 6:39 PM

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For some reason this episode felt very short to me.
Apr 20, 7:09 PM

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"Oh no muh pwecious animu has a black character talking about racial bias in higher education that he personally dealt with and a transgender character, numbah one Nippon supremacy is now dead because they're pAnDeRiNg to the WOKE Western audience agenda REEEEEEE ๐Ÿคฌ" Holy fuck I miss when this site was free of the buzzword-filled brain rot bullshit that now plagues Twitter ๐Ÿ˜‚๐Ÿ˜‚๐Ÿ˜‚๐Ÿ˜‚

Anyway, I'm glad it seems like the plot is starting to progress a little more. And fuck, that baklava looked divine.
@thebrentinator24 Ive been in Istambul. thats not how it looks, that looks more like Paris. and yes, Watanabe is woke.
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Apr 20, 7:13 PM
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transitioned from watching to dropped
Apr 20, 7:21 PM

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@thebrentinator24 Ive been in Istambul. thats not how it looks, that looks more like Paris. and yes, Watanabe is woke.
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and yes, Watanabe is woke.

Hate to break it to you, but like someone earlier in the thread already said, even since the Bebop days, Watanabe has always been "wOkE." Whatever the hell that stupid ass buzzword even means nowadays.
People on MAL refuse to actually enjoy watching anime.

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Apr 20, 7:56 PM

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and still better than cowboy bebop. the cinematography really stands out too
Apr 20, 8:58 PM
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so ya'll really didn't noticed skinner was showed in plain sight?
Apr 20, 9:16 PM

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I liked the parkour and action scenes but there isnt much else to offer.
Apr 20, 9:39 PM

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First off, i like that the pairings are being circled around. We get to see some of the characters show their strengths and weaknesses. I will say though I am curious why in the hell half of them did get recruited. Hopefully more will be talked about later on.
The action is still pretty damn cool. Though, I was like, "Damn, these guys getting jumped right off the bat." Seemed a bit too convenient but what do i know.

I dont know how it is for the dub since i found english subs but I didnt really mind the....trans and black stuff that I know people these days hate. It was a very minor character and the whole point of giving their background, unless im reading too much into it, was to say that ppl ran to this place and its courtesy not to pry into their lives. So Doug mentions his backstory which is something not uncommon, some educator insulting his intelligence and he fought back and the man they are looking for is who they are looking for. And the leader agrees to help. Imo, the leader saw Doug was just looking to take information to find whereabouts on his professor without really justifying it. I understand peoples issues lately for media with just forcing minority groups into media and making that their only defining trait. However, I felt this was such a short interaction that it didnt bother me and that these are things that people today experience and hopefully Dougs character gets expanded on later on.
I also didnt read the first episode discussions but man would this show really rally 'anti-vaxxers'. Take a drug just for it to kill you 3 years later would really make them say "I TOLD YOU SO".
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Apr 20, 10:06 PM

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I wonder what's up with the low score? I mean, the animation up to ep3 has been S tier. Some of the best choreography in an action anime I've seen in awhile. And Mappa's use of CGI gives us some insane shots. Sure, the writing sometimes doesn't make sense. But a 7.6 feels criminal for something of this quality, especially in a quiet season like this. I've seen arguments about the show being 'woke', but looking at the stats it's not like Lazarus is getting review bombed with 1s. Perhaps it's too early to judge since we're only 3 episodes in...
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Apr 20, 10:28 PM

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Another woke “sophisticated” episode from Demarcoified Watanabe anime. How DeMarco still has a job…Zaslav, if you’re listening, can this buffoon!

This guy ruined FLCL and now Bebop, it’s gross! Nobody minds natural elements of story but this is all a paycheck for Watanabe. Give the dude money and let him cook, don’t photoshop his project. Why do suits have to get in the way?

Who wanted a Bebop clone, why would the universe need this? Gotta hand it to him though, he sees western youth culture very cynically. We deserve it.

Just think of what could’ve been made with some budget and shutting the f up about story details. If you think there weren’t strict western parameters to the deal then you’re botting or ignorant.

And Carole and Tuesday was good, Space Dandy was good, this is painful. The dub, the generic character design…I would’ve rather had a direct Bebop sequel but they would’ve ruined that too. Hell a Champloo sequel. Lord, it’s insufferable.

Not one real character here. Our suits are so dumb, man. Dumb dumb dumb.
Apr 20, 10:56 PM

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A great episode!

Also i have not read the manga, so this is pure speculation.
But did no one pick up on this?
(https://drive.google.com/file/d/1zBOSbFTg6dfh-wcgOeNGfMyt2ZcTI0i1/view?usp=sharing)
(I don't seem to know how to upload a photo, unless it does work. But'm talking about the 07:15 into the episode with the "blind guy"m who looks just like skinner.)
@krillerthekille

Lazarus is an original anime, there's no manga
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Apr 20, 10:57 PM

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"Oh no muh pwecious animu has a black character talking about racial bias in higher education that he personally dealt with and a transgender character, numbah one Nippon supremacy is now dead because they're pAnDeRiNg to the WOKE Western audience agenda REEEEEEE ๐Ÿคฌ" Holy fuck I miss when this site was free of the buzzword-filled brain rot bullshit that now plagues Twitter ๐Ÿ˜‚๐Ÿ˜‚๐Ÿ˜‚๐Ÿ˜‚

Anyway, I'm glad it seems like the plot is starting to progress a little more. And fuck, that baklava looked divine.
@thebrentinator24

Baklava is so damn delicious...it's a treasure fr

I can't wait to see all the incels screeching "AMERICA RUINED ANIME" while it's Shinichiro Watanabe...who has always been like this. Hell anime has always been "woke".
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Apr 21, 1:03 AM

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Runasius said:
The fact that everyone has used the drug is what's unrealistic to me. You mean to tell me that every single human being on the face of the planet has tried Hapna before??? What about infants, what about people who don't have access to the drug?

There's no way that every single person has tried it.


Just because characters claimed that everyone in the world tried it, it doesn't make it true. Unless technology has advanced to a point where every single organism, or at least human, on the planet is guaranteed effectively tracked and monitored in an infallible database or people are omniscient gods who know the past activities of every other human on Earth, there is no way for the characters saying it to even reliably know. It could also be an exaggeration and hyperbole. Or just a "close enough" type of broad statement and estimate.

I don't know why characters claiming something would lead people to believe that the series' author is trying to get the audience to believe it as an incontrovertible truth. It's what characters are saying in-universe, not something you're required to believe as a viewer in order for the premise and plot to work.
Apr 21, 1:10 AM
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I just came to say one thing

When they were investigating in the slums and the first dude they see with the winter cap who supposedly can't speak..?? ISNT THAT SKINNER??? Like idk just looked like him...
Apr 21, 1:24 AM
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deimos96 said:
I wonder what's up with the low score? I mean, the animation up to ep3 has been S tier. Some of the best choreography in an action anime I've seen in awhile. And Mappa's use of CGI gives us some insane shots. Sure, the writing sometimes doesn't make sense. But a 7.6 feels criminal for something of this quality, especially in a quiet season like this. I've seen arguments about the show being 'woke', but looking at the stats it's not like Lazarus is getting review bombed with 1s. Perhaps it's too early to judge since we're only 3 episodes in...

It’s like people don’t care if animation is good, especially if the story and characters aren’t interesting… Btw there’s something called 3 episodes rule, if after 3 episodes the plot, and characters aren’t grabbing you know that it never will.

Btw it will get lower
Apr 21, 2:51 AM

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@thebrentinator24 ahhh okeydokey!

yeah, ya put one trans person and one dark skinned fella who lied his assets off about 'no people of color are going to win a Nobel Prize' on-screen and 'da woke' and 'da anti-woke' are gonna crawl outta the swamps. i mean there are 16 'black' folks who have won one as of 2024/25. if i'm not mistaken there are more than a few of Indian descent, a scattering of Asians, and a big chunk are Caucasians. :D

Believe me, these people don’t even understand what they are defending.

They literally are the reason why normal people don’t take any of these issues seriously anymore with how they defend such bad representation and scenes.
@Confused_100 keyboard warriors have been dumb since QWERTY was invented back in 1873. i ignore them pretty much all the time, unless they start OBVIOUSLY lying.
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Apr 21, 2:52 AM
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waste of time and braincells
Apr 21, 3:02 AM

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MyllerPhiem said:
"These boys didn't mean any harm"

Bull-fucking-shit. They were about to cut off your hand and shot a gun at your face. This is the same bs as last episode: enemies using deadly means to fight the heroes, then suddenly something happens and then they're supposed to be friendly. This is so bad :/


I don't think the grandmother character saying that is meant to imply that they actually "didn't mean any harm". It's meant to imply that that's what the character thinks - she, a kindly old woman who has a connection to the locals and this neighborhood and probably lived here or around here her entire life. Because later she also says that her grandson, the Skinner we know as the scientist framed as an archvillain trying to exterminate billions of people and wipe out humanity, is still to her just the cute sweet boy she looked after.

So it's clear that that is indicative of her outlook which sees mostly or only the positive aspects and good in people. At least people she already knows and loves/likes, like family, friends, and neighbors. This is very common in real life and an example of a realistic mindset and realistic dialogue.
Apr 21, 3:32 AM

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I'm bored. The detective stuff is weak. The concept is kind of stupid as well. I know the idea is that this is a "special team" or whatever, but given the doom that humanity is facing you'd think the anime would convey a world with hysteria/max anxiety, and that the team would be getting help from other divisions or international teams to track him down.

I still sorta like the characters, but not really enjoying much else. I'd also likely enjoy it more if I was listening to the Japanese actors because goddamn do I hate like 99% of Western VAs.
Apr 21, 3:50 AM

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@thebrentinator24

Baklava is so damn delicious...it's a treasure fr

I can't wait to see all the incels screeching "AMERICA RUINED ANIME" while it's Shinichiro Watanabe...who has always been like this. Hell anime has always been "woke".
@Fukoku No, anime has never been woke. Anime has always been natural diverse, not forced diverse. But transphiles like you keep ignoring reality and all arguments and instead insult everyone who criticizes this episode.

Nobody is "mad" that there's a trans-woman. People criticize that "she" has no reason to be there, because WE ALREADY WERE IN A HOMELESS AREA. These people were already discriminated against by society, so why the double-whammy? That character and what he said existed entirely as a form of woke virtue signaling, and that's everything that sucks about modern media.
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Apr 21, 3:52 AM

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MyllerPhiem said:
"These boys didn't mean any harm"

Bull-fucking-shit. They were about to cut off your hand and shot a gun at your face. This is the same bs as last episode: enemies using deadly means to fight the heroes, then suddenly something happens and then they're supposed to be friendly. This is so bad :/


I don't think the grandmother character saying that is meant to imply that they actually "didn't mean any harm". It's meant to imply that that's what the character thinks - she, a kindly old woman who has a connection to the locals and this neighborhood and probably lived here or around here her entire life. Because later she also says that her grandson, the Skinner we know as the scientist framed as an archvillain trying to exterminate billions of people and wipe out humanity, is still to her just the cute sweet boy she looked after.

So it's clear that that is indicative of her outlook which sees mostly or only the positive aspects and good in people. At least people she already knows and loves/likes, like family, friends, and neighbors. This is very common in real life and an example of a realistic mindset and realistic dialogue.
@WatchTillTandava The heroes accepting it is no realistic at all, though. That's just terrible writing.
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Apr 21, 3:54 AM

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I'm bored. The detective stuff is weak. The concept is kind of stupid as well. I know the idea is that this is a "special team" or whatever, but given the doom that humanity is facing you'd think the anime would convey a world with hysteria/max anxiety, and that the team would be getting help from other divisions or international teams to track him down.

I still sorta like the characters, but not really enjoying much else. I'd also likely enjoy it more if I was listening to the Japanese actors because goddamn do I hate like 99% of Western VAs.
@poemofdevil I find the setup to finding Skinner just so cheap. "Hey, here's a master hacker, let's go!". Makes you wonder what they'd do without a master hacker. That's just such a clichee story trope.
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Apr 21, 8:31 AM

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MyllerPhiem said:
The heroes accepting it is no realistic at all, though. That's just terrible writing.


They don't need to genuinely believe it themselves in order to appear to readily accept the explanation so as to brush it off and go along with it, which better facilitates continuation of their mission. Their entire purpose for being there is to secure information and a potential new lead. With the local thugs outside appeared to have calmed down and backed off and the grandmother seeming willing to talk and potentially give them some valuable, even crucial info, I could see the characters just deeming it in their best interests to play along and make nice to keep the grandmother talking. Starting another fight over it at that moment with them and/or her wouldn't accomplish anything and possibly sabotage what they're there to do.

Those people are nothing to them - they were just an obstacle en route to the grandmother's house. If they can be gotten out of the way by the grandmother making an excuse on their behalf and sending them away, it makes sense to just roll with it. All they need is for her to talk.
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Apr 21, 8:36 AM

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MyllerPhiem said:
@Fukoku No, anime has never been woke. Anime has always been natural diverse, not forced diverse. But transphiles like you keep ignoring reality and all arguments and instead insult everyone who criticizes this episode.

Nobody is "mad" that there's a trans-woman. People criticize that "she" has no reason to be there, because WE ALREADY WERE IN A HOMELESS AREA. These people were already discriminated against by society, so why the double-whammy? That character and what he said existed entirely as a form of woke virtue signaling, and that's everything that sucks about modern media.

There’s black homeless people too like the one who had a basketball match with Axel, what’s your point?

And according to the National Alliance to End Homelessness, “Transgender individuals are disproportionately unsheltered. Sixty-three percent are living in such situations.” So I have no clue on how a trans woman was “forced”.

Seems to me the only problem to you is that there’s a trans woman.
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@epyon4light “woke”?
Then why did you give cowboy bebop a 9? Did you forget the character “Gren” who was pretty queer?
I assumed you enjoyed bebop based on the score.
@Old_School_Akira Buddy, no one cared if that character was trans I also do not recall if this character was ever being condesending about their Traaans situation. On this 3rd episode he was being asked about Dr. Skinner and then stops the conversation to talk about the struggles of trans people. If this isn't hitting any diversity quota checkboxes then I don't know what else needs to be done for people like you to see that it's not the "rIgHt WiNg ChUdS".

Not only is this show bad, it's also a manufactured corpo slop that exists to push the message.
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Lazarus is an original anime, there's no manga
@Fukoku Ahh yea okay. I find it so rare for originals to be good, so i did not think about it.
But yea then i guess no one knows if it truly is him or not yet.
Would be a good classic twist, "he was following you guys all the way" or "he was where you startet, so now you have to race back".
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@Fukoku No, anime has never been woke. Anime has always been natural diverse, not forced diverse. But transphiles like you keep ignoring reality and all arguments and instead insult everyone who criticizes this episode.

Nobody is "mad" that there's a trans-woman. People criticize that "she" has no reason to be there, because WE ALREADY WERE IN A HOMELESS AREA. These people were already discriminated against by society, so why the double-whammy? That character and what he said existed entirely as a form of woke virtue signaling, and that's everything that sucks about modern media.
MyllerPhiem said:
No, anime has never been woke.
anime was always "woke" so cope. anime had gay kisses before any american cartoons did.

GL/Yuri BL/Yaoi

Just admit you like the so called "wokeness". Even attack on titan is woke. Someone asked a black guy why his skin is black, Mikasa brings up her mixed heritage.
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@Fukoku Ahh yea okay. I find it so rare for originals to be good, so i did not think about it.
But yea then i guess no one knows if it truly is him or not yet.
Would be a good classic twist, "he was following you guys all the way" or "he was where you startet, so now you have to race back".

Yea original anime don’t really appeal to me but I am a bit biased since this is made by Shinichiro Watanabe. The same person who has made great original anime.

So I have high hopes for this.
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MyllerPhiem said:
@Fukoku No, anime has never been woke. Anime has always been natural diverse, not forced diverse. But transphiles like you keep ignoring reality and all arguments and instead insult everyone who criticizes this episode.

Nobody is "mad" that there's a trans-woman. People criticize that "she" has no reason to be there, because WE ALREADY WERE IN A HOMELESS AREA. These people were already discriminated against by society, so why the double-whammy? That character and what he said existed entirely as a form of woke virtue signaling, and that's everything that sucks about modern media.

There’s black homeless people too like the one who had a basketball match with Axel, what’s your point?

And according to the National Alliance to End Homelessness, “Transgender individuals are disproportionately unsheltered. Sixty-three percent are living in such situations.” So I have no clue on how a trans woman was “forced”.

Seems to me the only problem to you is that there’s a trans woman.
@Fukoku Ofc it is. Because "she" serves no purpose to the plot here. It's just a "hey, im a trans-woman now and my life is hard"-scene, in the midst of a HOMELESS SHELTER. Not sure why you would mention black people, being black is normal. Unless you want to say being black is a dysphoria, holy shit ...
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MyllerPhiem said:
No, anime has never been woke.
anime was always "woke" so cope. anime had gay kisses before any american cartoons did.

GL/Yuri BL/Yaoi

Just admit you like the so called "wokeness". Even attack on titan is woke. Someone asked a black guy why his skin is black, Mikasa brings up her mixed heritage.
@Old_School_Akira A gay kiss isn't woke.

But you strike me as one of the crazies who refuse to understand what political and non-politiccal video games are. "All games are political", amirite? Just put on your dog-mask and go do whatever your ilk does.
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I don't fkn accept this disrespect and insult to Turks and Istanbul and I am boycotting this stupid anime.
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@Fukoku Ofc it is. Because "she" serves no purpose to the plot here. It's just a "hey, im a trans-woman now and my life is hard"-scene, in the midst of a HOMELESS SHELTER. Not sure why you would mention black people, being black is normal. Unless you want to say being black is a dysphoria, holy shit ...
@MyllerPhiem

You said "these people were already discriminated against by society, so why the double-whammy?". Black people are heavily discriminated against.

If you actually paid attention to the episode, the trans woman was more than just "Hey I am trans and life sucks". She not only brought insightful information to Axel and Doug, but it expanded on the lore of Axel who is the main character.

Besides, as far as I am aware you and everyone else who is mad at this episode never complain when diversity is actually forced like FGO whitewashing Aztec gods or the Sailor Moon English dub removing the queer couple. But the moment a trans woman shows up, now you suddenly care about diversity being "forced". And aren't these the same people demanding "original trans characters" and shit among the lines of that?

"Being black is normal" that tells me everything I need to know ab your incel ass. Go touch some grass.
FukokuApr 21, 2:21 PM
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MyllerPhiem said:
No, anime has never been woke.
anime was always "woke" so cope. anime had gay kisses before any american cartoons did.

GL/Yuri BL/Yaoi

Just admit you like the so called "wokeness". Even attack on titan is woke. Someone asked a black guy why his skin is black, Mikasa brings up her mixed heritage.
@Old_School_Akira

Attack on Titan is one of the most "woke" anime you can find lmfao. It's hilarious that the ones who consume "woke" media like Star Wars and One Piece are always the ones complaining about "anti-wokeness".
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@Old_School_Akira A gay kiss isn't woke.

But you strike me as one of the crazies who refuse to understand what political and non-politiccal video games are. "All games are political", amirite? Just put on your dog-mask and go do whatever your ilk does.
@MyllerPhiem

I hate to break it to you but a lot of your favorite media is "woke".

Attack on Titan is one of the most "woke" animanga out there. There are so many real world parallels that there's entire articles around them. Star Wars, the empire is inspired by America. One Piece tackles so many real world problems like slavery, racism, and human trafficking. The Fire Nation in Avatar: The Last Airbender is modeled after Imperial Japan in WWII.
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I think the "Skinner" that was in the homeless area, and the pill Christine found are red herrings; the "rare" lily given to Belinda, though???? Hmmmmmm.......
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thebrentinator24 said:
MichaelJackson said:
and yes, Watanabe is woke.

Hate to break it to you, but like someone earlier in the thread already said, even since the Bebop days, Watanabe has always been "wOkE." Whatever the hell that stupid ass buzzword even means nowadays.

The term originally meant being aware of racial issues (or just discriminatory issues in general) but now online losers have changed it to anytime someone who isn’t white or white passing, anything remotely queer, or a woman who isn’t there to give them a boner shows up
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Runasius said:
The fact that everyone has used the drug is what's unrealistic to me. You mean to tell me that every single human being on the face of the planet has tried Hapna before??? What about infants, what about people who don't have access to the drug?

There's no way that every single person has tried it.


Just because characters claimed that everyone in the world tried it, it doesn't make it true. Unless technology has advanced to a point where every single organism, or at least human, on the planet is guaranteed effectively tracked and monitored in an infallible database or people are omniscient gods who know the past activities of every other human on Earth, there is no way for the characters saying it to even reliably know. It could also be an exaggeration and hyperbole. Or just a "close enough" type of broad statement and estimate.

I don't know why characters claiming something would lead people to believe that the series' author is trying to get the audience to believe it as an incontrovertible truth. It's what characters are saying in-universe, not something you're required to believe as a viewer in order for the premise and plot to work.
@WatchTillTandava I can't believe we've gotten to the point where you have to explain this kind of thing to others. I mean, a lot of people seems to complain about the story being weak and dumb, but they don't seem to understand this kind of simple stuff, for ex, what a character says about their world doesn't necessarily reflect the truth of it, it's just what they perceive, kinda ironic.
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thebrentinator24 said:
MichaelJackson said:
and yes, Watanabe is woke.

Hate to break it to you, but like someone earlier in the thread already said, even since the Bebop days, Watanabe has always been "wOkE." Whatever the hell that stupid ass buzzword even means nowadays.

The term originally meant being aware of racial issues (or just discriminatory issues in general) but now online losers have changed it to anytime someone who isn’t white or white passing, anything remotely queer, or a woman who isn’t there to give them a boner shows up
@Fukoku Yup it's sad how the definition of the term has become bastardized, I genuinely don't understand how these people don't get exhausted by being so miserable all the time. POC exist, women exist, LGBTQ people exist, them being present in media literally has no effect on anyone so for people to be losing their shit over that is just pathetic ๐Ÿ’€ and they always claim that it's "pandering" or "virtue signaling" but conveniently they never explain HOW. They just see those groups represented in a show or game and throw that label on lmao.
thebrentinator24Apr 21, 1:14 PM
People on MAL refuse to actually enjoy watching anime.

Your taste in anime isn't a personality trait.

MAL has literally become a brain dead extension of the worst and most moronic aspects of Twitter ๐Ÿ—ฃ๏ธ๐Ÿ—ฃ๏ธ๐Ÿ—ฃ๏ธ


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Lol I was not expecting James Bond reference outta nowhere

I’m surprised they didn’t get sued lmfao
If I had to choose between One Piece and a girlfriend...I think I'll go with One Piece
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O MY BLACK OPPRESSION,

O MY BAKLAVA EX MACHINA,

O MY GENIUS TEEN HACKER,

O MY SIBLING VOICE ACTORS,

O MY TRANSGENDER NAKAMURA,

O MY ECO ADVOCATE VILLAIN,

O MY SPIKE MUGEN RIPOFF,

I AM NOW SHINICHIROU WATANABE, WASHED PANDERER OF ALL WESTERN AUDIENCE.
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I think myanimelist should remove this from thier list becuase its clearly said that non japanese produced shows or shows made for an external market aren't anime xd.

Tho i have t osay some of the issues it presents even if not as cartoonishly presented in the show, are not fake, transgender homeless people are real, specially in highly empobrished cities or places where the culture isn't really in favor of something like this, you even got an example of one in Tokyo Godfathers. The racism shown tho, nowdays it wouldn't be so clear, they usually just keep it to themselves and fuck over them without telling them directly
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I think I found the professor. Thank you. Good night.

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