Forum SettingsEpisode Information
Forums
New
What did you think of this episode?
DO NOT discuss the source material beyond this episode. If you want to discuss future events or theories, please use separate threads.
DO NOT ask where to watch/download this episode or give links to copyrighted, non-fair use material.
DO NOT troll/bait/harass/abuse other users for liking or disliking the series/characters.
DO read the Anime Discussion Rules and Site & Forum Guidelines.
Jan 24, 7:57 AM
#1

Offline
Nov 2011
129464
This turns out to be one of Glenn's first chances to get his revenge. The past connects to the present.

Glenn feels like the underdog this episode but at least they got emotions and expressions right. More suffering for Glenn physically and mentally. Wied is someone to keep an eye on as someone with decent knowledge about their world and its lore.
Jan 24, 10:13 AM
#2

Offline
Aug 2020
4302
it was not bad but i was hoping for more when he tried his revenge...
otakuweek (100k Followers) on insta for News /best recom etc

just have a look, you won't regret it...

Link below:

https://www.instagram.com/otakuweek?igsh=em5kY3Q4NTVtNXlh
Jan 24, 10:38 AM
#3

Offline
Jul 2016
2671
Damn Koinzell really just subdued Aht with his edgelord aura alone.


Poor Peepi got her name reveal Peepi-blocked yet again, and she's not even fazed by it herself anymore lol
Jan 24, 10:44 AM
#4
fanservice<3

Offline
Mar 2012
12724
well DAMN... there's some BADDIES in this mf...

decent amount of hot girls so far... I'm just hoping they didn't censor too much, which ofc they probably did :/
Jan 24, 11:32 AM
#5

Offline
Aug 2010
2136
Reply to EcchiGodMamster
well DAMN... there's some BADDIES in this mf...

decent amount of hot girls so far... I'm just hoping they didn't censor too much, which ofc they probably did :/
@EcchiGodMamster is that all this show is worth? Bunch of girls who fight in their underwear?
https://combosmooth.itch.io/ - I make free-to-play browser games for PC and I sell pixel art animation here
Jan 24, 12:39 PM
#6

Offline
Aug 2012
1887
Aren't they skipping a lot? Or is the novel different in how the succession of events occurs? This should happen later.... I wonder how they will reconcile this.

@ComboSmooth no. But If you are concern about this thing maybe you should avoid the manga. Is much more explicit in many ways. The show is about how power corrupts and about how history is often written by the winners. Is about war, magic and the two sides of the debate if the goal excuses the means. Oh and not to spoil it but it also asks

@Stark700 Glenn is the bad guy. Manipulating everyone. Koinzell tries to get revenge . You are confusing them. Koinzell is the single underdog... the small fairy hybrid...
nightcrawlercypJan 24, 12:58 PM
Jan 24, 1:15 PM
#7
fanservice<3

Offline
Mar 2012
12724
Reply to ComboSmooth
@EcchiGodMamster is that all this show is worth? Bunch of girls who fight in their underwear?
ComboSmooth said:
@EcchiGodMamster is that all this show is worth? Bunch of girls who fight in their underwear?


if that's what this show was about, i'd actually hype 😂😂😂😂
Jan 24, 1:22 PM
#8

Offline
Aug 2010
2136
Reply to nightcrawlercyp
Aren't they skipping a lot? Or is the novel different in how the succession of events occurs? This should happen later.... I wonder how they will reconcile this.

@ComboSmooth no. But If you are concern about this thing maybe you should avoid the manga. Is much more explicit in many ways. The show is about how power corrupts and about how history is often written by the winners. Is about war, magic and the two sides of the debate if the goal excuses the means. Oh and not to spoil it but it also asks

@Stark700 Glenn is the bad guy. Manipulating everyone. Koinzell tries to get revenge . You are confusing them. Koinzell is the single underdog... the small fairy hybrid...
@nightcrawlercyp

The whole underwear bit reminds me more of like Bastard!! or edgy dark fantasy stuff from the 80s/90s. I think its silly more than anything. Like, youre ceremonial revenge gear is panties lol

This episode annoyed me because of how bad certain scenes and moments were constructed. Notable examples being when that new girl, friend of eye-patch face (as you can tell, im great with names) attacked peepi/koinzell.
Then the hard cut to the village was awkward and so was when the smuggler cried after seeing people she saved (what felt awkward was how it happened, not the idea of it happening).
https://combosmooth.itch.io/ - I make free-to-play browser games for PC and I sell pixel art animation here
Jan 24, 2:03 PM
#9
Offline
Mar 2021
272
Hello

I'm gonna say each week what they skipped (I'm not saying anything bad or trying to be negative just info)
They adapted 6 chapter (in the first 6 minutes they adapted 2 chapter)(if counting volume 0 there on 19 chapter if not on start of 16)
The changes: In the first scene the woman has clothe but in the manga she has no clothe, They skipped 5 really important pages lol of Kolnzell and Glenn back story which is really important imo. They skipped the first 6 pages where they wonder if kolnzell is somebody and that Glenn send troupes to find out about the prophecy,they skipped a backstory of the girl who wanted revenge for his brother which was 1 page also Wied and his brother 1 page back story, they chose to skip a page where a soldier says "before his blade becomes a tool of revenge agaibst the empire I will kill him even at the cost of my own life",5 more pages describing the village + Peppi determination how she wants to fight and save like Kolnzell,6 pages of Kolnzell having trauma for what Glenn did,skipped like 7 chapters on how the girl ppicks up the sword and almost strikes him but eventually it's Wied who strikes him,Wied back story which was 1 page,skipped 3 pages on how they found peepi and the others,skipped a page on how the bald guy said that he is the are under the protection of the landgrave army and that's it finally with some dialogue changes too and cutting a lot of dialogues
Jan 24, 2:19 PM
Offline
Jan 2023
6
The worst anime that I saw. The main character is the most stupid person in the world
Jan 24, 4:02 PM
Offline
Feb 2018
18
Reply to Xtengu
The worst anime that I saw. The main character is the most stupid person in the world
@Xtengu He become tougher later.
Jan 24, 5:50 PM
Offline
Apr 2015
20
Reply to AramHovhanued
Hello

I'm gonna say each week what they skipped (I'm not saying anything bad or trying to be negative just info)
They adapted 6 chapter (in the first 6 minutes they adapted 2 chapter)(if counting volume 0 there on 19 chapter if not on start of 16)
The changes: In the first scene the woman has clothe but in the manga she has no clothe, They skipped 5 really important pages lol of Kolnzell and Glenn back story which is really important imo. They skipped the first 6 pages where they wonder if kolnzell is somebody and that Glenn send troupes to find out about the prophecy,they skipped a backstory of the girl who wanted revenge for his brother which was 1 page also Wied and his brother 1 page back story, they chose to skip a page where a soldier says "before his blade becomes a tool of revenge agaibst the empire I will kill him even at the cost of my own life",5 more pages describing the village + Peppi determination how she wants to fight and save like Kolnzell,6 pages of Kolnzell having trauma for what Glenn did,skipped like 7 chapters on how the girl ppicks up the sword and almost strikes him but eventually it's Wied who strikes him,Wied back story which was 1 page,skipped 3 pages on how they found peepi and the others,skipped a page on how the bald guy said that he is the are under the protection of the landgrave army and that's it finally with some dialogue changes too and cutting a lot of dialogues
@AramHovhanued TL;DR They're rushing, and rushing poorly
Jan 24, 5:52 PM

Offline
May 2015
7
Honestly, it makes sense that they are rushing. I just finished Episode 3 and I was super lost with how fast everything was moving and new characters were getting introduced. it also doesn't help they have difficult-to-remember names.
-- CAMBIO FORMA: MODO ATTACO! MITENA DI VONGOLA PRIMO! --
Jan 24, 6:20 PM
Offline
Jun 2019
12
I read the second episode of the manga.

We are missing a lot of sexy scenes. I am so sad about that.
Jan 24, 8:19 PM

Offline
Oct 2024
222
Reply to ComboSmooth
@EcchiGodMamster is that all this show is worth? Bunch of girls who fight in their underwear?
@ComboSmooth If they had kept the sex scenes, it would've been peak.



Jan 24, 10:17 PM

Offline
Nov 2011
73
what a nonsense episode, to be honest. first they tried to put in a climax out of nowhere, failed it then went on to complicate other things like getting new characters out of air plus all other stories or settings... this anime quality is sad beyond all reasons, it's dumb and ridiculous at this point lol one more ep of this and I'm gonna drop it, damn... people not putting their heart into making anime these days, it's so disappointing.
Jan 24, 10:31 PM

Offline
Apr 2023
172
Are production studios allergic to the third episode or something, I swear the amount of anime that just implodes on that number of episode is insane.

Jan 24, 10:40 PM

Offline
Nov 2011
73
For people who read this, I am sure you've also read the comments above already. Yes, do yourself a favor, read the manga now, you'll enjoy much more than this. Like, seriously. You'll want to thank those who suggest this once you get started reading, no lie. The anime really did skip one hell load of things and I can see that is exactly why this anime is such a nonsense right now lmao
Jan 24, 11:12 PM
Offline
Sep 2010
4
Why don't they have problems with drawing severed limbs but have problems with naked tits. Like wth you are adapting gore manga with tons of sex and nudity. For whom? Kindergarten children?
Jan 24, 11:20 PM

Offline
Jul 2023
1920
Lots of action, but Episode 3 seems to be disjoint from the first two. It mentions Koinzell's backstory a bit, but not too elaborate.

I'm getting lost.

*****

ETA:

Gonna put this anime on hold and read the manga. It's like Unnamed Memory where the source material is excellent but the adaptation is butchered.
patkarununganJan 24, 11:23 PM
Jan 25, 1:38 AM

Offline
Aug 2012
1887
Reply to ComboSmooth
@nightcrawlercyp

The whole underwear bit reminds me more of like Bastard!! or edgy dark fantasy stuff from the 80s/90s. I think its silly more than anything. Like, youre ceremonial revenge gear is panties lol

This episode annoyed me because of how bad certain scenes and moments were constructed. Notable examples being when that new girl, friend of eye-patch face (as you can tell, im great with names) attacked peepi/koinzell.
Then the hard cut to the village was awkward and so was when the smuggler cried after seeing people she saved (what felt awkward was how it happened, not the idea of it happening).
@ComboSmooth well they do not seem to have winter and seems pretty hot weather. So it makes sorta of a sense but is just edgy thing actually. Personally I just ignored it.

"Notable examples being when that new girl, friend of eye-patch face (as you can tell, im great with names) attacked peepi/koinzell."


Again cut content. The smugger was depressed because the place where she smuggled those people seemed just as bad as the place from where they left ( and it was). That is why she cries when she gets thanked. Again lots of cut content.
Jan 25, 1:40 AM

Offline
Aug 2012
1887
Reply to patkarunungan
Lots of action, but Episode 3 seems to be disjoint from the first two. It mentions Koinzell's backstory a bit, but not too elaborate.

I'm getting lost.

*****

ETA:

Gonna put this anime on hold and read the manga. It's like Unnamed Memory where the source material is excellent but the adaptation is butchered.
@patkarunungan they adapted the manga pretty good but they cut a lot of it, especially chapter 0 that guves a lot of background info. Also there are some immportant back flashes and talks that were cut
Jan 25, 2:30 AM

Offline
Dec 2010
254
Reply to AramHovhanued
Hello

I'm gonna say each week what they skipped (I'm not saying anything bad or trying to be negative just info)
They adapted 6 chapter (in the first 6 minutes they adapted 2 chapter)(if counting volume 0 there on 19 chapter if not on start of 16)
The changes: In the first scene the woman has clothe but in the manga she has no clothe, They skipped 5 really important pages lol of Kolnzell and Glenn back story which is really important imo. They skipped the first 6 pages where they wonder if kolnzell is somebody and that Glenn send troupes to find out about the prophecy,they skipped a backstory of the girl who wanted revenge for his brother which was 1 page also Wied and his brother 1 page back story, they chose to skip a page where a soldier says "before his blade becomes a tool of revenge agaibst the empire I will kill him even at the cost of my own life",5 more pages describing the village + Peppi determination how she wants to fight and save like Kolnzell,6 pages of Kolnzell having trauma for what Glenn did,skipped like 7 chapters on how the girl ppicks up the sword and almost strikes him but eventually it's Wied who strikes him,Wied back story which was 1 page,skipped 3 pages on how they found peepi and the others,skipped a page on how the bald guy said that he is the are under the protection of the landgrave army and that's it finally with some dialogue changes too and cutting a lot of dialogues
@AramHovhanued So that's why this episode felt all over the place. Going to give it 1-2 more episodes but the possibility of improvement isn't very high...
The worst thing is that I feel lost in this setting and they're not even trying to explain it properly.
Chipp12Jan 25, 2:33 AM
Jan 25, 5:32 AM

Offline
Feb 2022
208
Episode 3 completely destroyed everything I had gotten from Episodes 1 and 2. I never imagined the MC would be so pathetic and idiotic as to go after the seven heroes like a rabid dog—it ruined my experience. They’re trying way too hard to make the show appear mysterious. The flow of the episode was erratic, and I couldn’t enjoy the second half at all. Things didn’t make sense, and the pacing suddenly sped up way too much.
Jan 25, 7:18 AM

Offline
Jun 2012
373
Man, you gotta love it when the plot demands that someone who's supposed to be insanely strong suddenly crumbles at the slightest resistance and somehow misses the dagger being thrown at their feet.
Jan 25, 9:47 AM
Offline
Jan 2022
59
It is crazy how bad this show is. They can’t be serious with this, right? Are they trolling us? How can they think this is palatable for an audience?
Jan 25, 2:29 PM
Offline
Feb 2018
18
Reply to Desi_Nehra
Episode 3 completely destroyed everything I had gotten from Episodes 1 and 2. I never imagined the MC would be so pathetic and idiotic as to go after the seven heroes like a rabid dog—it ruined my experience. They’re trying way too hard to make the show appear mysterious. The flow of the episode was erratic, and I couldn’t enjoy the second half at all. Things didn’t make sense, and the pacing suddenly sped up way too much.
@Desi_Nehra Well he goes from noob to badass later, basic shounen route.
Jan 25, 5:17 PM
Offline
Feb 2012
8
This is my first exposure to the series and I have to say, while the first two episodes felt fine, this episode felt completely disjointed.

The story was all over the place and felt rushed. It seemed to adapt multiple chapters and jumped all over the place. Koinzel's confrontation while Glenn, the fight with Aht, and the scenes at the refugee camp. it all should have been split across two or three episodes not all crammed into one.

The action scenes felt really low budget too. The big action shots were just stills. Such a disappointment.
Jan 26, 3:32 AM
The Shrike

Offline
Nov 2009
11666
They completely butchered the source material. Horrible adaptation. They don't introduce the characters properly and just jump from one setpiece to another. Why bother even adapting an old manga if you're going to do such a shoddy job of it.
"Perhaps there is a universal, absolute truth. Perhaps it justifies every question. But that's beyond the reach of these small hands." Mamoru Oshii

There is a cult of ignorance (...) nurtured by the false notion that democracy means that “my ignorance is just as good as your knowledge.” Isaac Asimov

Jan 26, 5:40 AM
Offline
Dec 2024
3
so the beginning was fine I guess, but then so much happened at once, characters and systems were introduced and it just felt rushed. Also the inclusion of the dark moment at this point makes it feel like the story ends next episode
Jan 26, 6:48 AM
Offline
Mar 2018
2
Not many shows could adapt 8 chapters into one episode. I have yet to see one that has done it well.
Jan 26, 6:56 AM
Offline
Sep 2023
61
Reply to Gnza
@ComboSmooth If they had kept the sex scenes, it would've been peak.



@Gnza those scenes are absolutely unnecessary to the story, and add to that that a grown-up is having sex with a kid, this is not peak at all, this is just so wrong
Jan 26, 7:45 AM

Offline
Oct 2024
222
Reply to sailorkugisaki
@Gnza those scenes are absolutely unnecessary to the story, and add to that that a grown-up is having sex with a kid, this is not peak at all, this is just so wrong
@sailorkugisaki

So what? morbid curiosity can be powerful, though. Gore is also unnecessary and terrible, but they can prompt the rawness the tone requires.
Jan 26, 9:18 AM

Offline
Aug 2012
1887
Reply to sailorkugisaki
@Gnza those scenes are absolutely unnecessary to the story, and add to that that a grown-up is having sex with a kid, this is not peak at all, this is just so wrong
@sailorkugisaki some with Glenn and Lebelond do have some purpose though
Jan 26, 10:10 AM
Offline
May 2021
2755
I can't understand shit what's going on, new characters popping in and they are acting like they are in this show for a long time, no introduction, no sense till now. They are literally skipping or rushing too much
Jan 26, 11:39 AM

Offline
Mar 2010
153
This is retarded, dropping this. :3

Jan 26, 6:42 PM

Offline
Feb 2022
208
PhantasyGanime said:
Not many shows could adapt 8 chapters into one episode. I have yet to see one that has done it well.

Wow! That really explains why everyone feels so confused about this episode. What a disaster. I don’t understand why they would destroy the potential of the show like this. What do they even gain from it? The majority of people clearly aren’t okay with it. I’m not sure about the Japanese audience’s reaction, but I can’t imagine they’d be pleased with so many pacing issues either.
Jan 27, 11:28 AM
Lilium Gardener

Offline
Jul 2011
3748
Not going to lie, I felt kind of lost this episode. Not because it was complicated by any means, but it felt super disjointed. The scenes were bouncing around far too quickly. I'm pretty sure like 75% of the characters shown this episode were new? Maybe I just didn't pay great attention to the previous episodes, but they felt a lot smoother than this one.

I took away that Koinzell hopped in the middle of like a 1000 people to kill one of the 7, but obviously failed. Then we were suddenly in a scene that felt important, but was super rushed. Some princess wanted to kill him for murdering her brother and she has connections to party member dude. Peepi found some homies and finally Koinzell is chopping up some rando NPCs. It seems like a lot more important stuff was happening between and during those events, but the rushed nature of the episode didn't allow more than that to sink in. At least from my perspective.
Jan 27, 7:38 PM
Offline
May 2017
900
Koinzell got that mf dawg in him
Jan 28, 10:18 AM
Offline
Oct 2024
52
I was so hype when this show was announced as I had just started reading the manga but after 3 episodes I think I’m going to drop it. I know what’s going on and I’m even confused. They introduce Aht without showing why she was mad at Koinzell which I guess they could show later but IMO that needlessly complicates the plot.

With so much stuff being cut and censored I think I’m just going to go back to reading the manga. No idea why they are speed running through everything but it is making it impossible for me to enjoy it. Maybe someone who hasn’t read the manga might enjoy this more but I unfortunately am not.
Jan 28, 3:57 PM

Offline
Oct 2022
1655
Kind of disappointed in this show
The PV, the description and the hype all said this was a revenge-fest power fantasy.
I went into it expecting a revenge fest power fantasy.
And MC is already falling out of the sky, unable to stand up and fight another loli, collapsing on the ground and moping, freezing up in front of that Hero dude... what the hell

I'm not gonna watch 50 episodes of "AAawwwaghhh!! I can't do it! AH NEEDA GET STRONGERRRRR!!!"
Fuck that shit. Why isn't he already strong. Koinzell already turned into a helpless weakling.
Who is strong- this "Octopus" guy, he's kind of funny and awesome...
But there's way too many characters being thrown in and all this backstory stuff like we're supposed to know who they are, and there's only been 2 episodes.
If it doesn't get back to being a power fantasy like it's sup- wait- did he just slash all five of those guys?
Geezus....
Weird and sloppily written episode, hopefully it improves. This episode was boring, let this be the only boring episode PLEASE!
SuperAdventureJan 28, 4:02 PM
Jan 28, 4:28 PM

Offline
Jul 2023
1920
Reply to mangabboy
I was so hype when this show was announced as I had just started reading the manga but after 3 episodes I think I’m going to drop it. I know what’s going on and I’m even confused. They introduce Aht without showing why she was mad at Koinzell which I guess they could show later but IMO that needlessly complicates the plot.

With so much stuff being cut and censored I think I’m just going to go back to reading the manga. No idea why they are speed running through everything but it is making it impossible for me to enjoy it. Maybe someone who hasn’t read the manga might enjoy this more but I unfortunately am not.
@mangabboy

I will start reading the manga soon because Episode 3 dropped the ball and makes it so confusing. Episodes 1 and 2 are okay despite omissions. If you who have read many volumes and you're confused, I'm afraid the anime is shit. I thought at first that it was good.
Jan 29, 2:13 AM
🥊 CHAMPION 🥊

Offline
Apr 2016
24495
bad animation!
Well, Koinzell lost the the mood after being quickly reduced!
kekeke
Jan 29, 9:04 AM

Offline
Feb 2019
9922
Fuck I keep forgetting to watch this show on Fridays. Forgot the day it comes out

This adaptation is horrible. Even as an anime only I can tell it’s being rushed as fuck and missing a lot. Feels like things are happening at breakneck speed and there’s so many characters being introduced so soon. And that’s not even to mention the awful animation. The world and lore is kinda interesting though. I could see the manga being a much better experience.

LMAO at Koinzell doing all that aura farming and shit talking just to get folded as soon as he saw his old buddy. I guess in the 20 years since the betrayal, the fake heroes really did become OP. Gonna take Koinzell getting way stronger to deal with em

What’s the deal with Geranpen too? Because he speaks using Kashira which is a feminine way to end sentences that means “I wonder” and imagines himself as a Valkyrie of sorts. The other guy said he saw Geranpen kidnap the girl too so maybe someone’s just taking his appearance?
Marinate1016Jan 29, 11:21 AM
Jan 30, 12:50 PM

Offline
Jun 2012
373
When you expected to be feared but ended up becoming the big guy’s crush… 😅
Feb 2, 11:29 AM
Offline
Jun 2021
2
I need the sleeping pills that the boy took
Feb 4, 1:38 PM

Offline
Oct 2009
72
Having read the manga when it was publishing and really liking it, I do think the anime adaptation is lacking.

It's not about the sex scenes or gore stuff, manga would have been still great without them.

The pace is really weird, the story and world building are, for now at least, not really well done, we don't know or understand shit.

It may be nostalgia-bias, but I really don't think I felt this weird about it with the start of the manga, or am I alone in that sentiment, fellow manga readers ?
Feb 4, 4:21 PM

Offline
Jul 2023
1920
Reply to MonsieurPapillon
Having read the manga when it was publishing and really liking it, I do think the anime adaptation is lacking.

It's not about the sex scenes or gore stuff, manga would have been still great without them.

The pace is really weird, the story and world building are, for now at least, not really well done, we don't know or understand shit.

It may be nostalgia-bias, but I really don't think I felt this weird about it with the start of the manga, or am I alone in that sentiment, fellow manga readers ?
@MonsieurPapillon

I'm starting the manga, and even reading it at a leisurely pace, it can still potentially be confusing. Volume 0 starts media res, and there's a lot of names you have to keep track of.

Reading it has convinced me that the anime has butchered it because the faster pace of the anime is not helping people at all.

Too bad because the first two episodes had me convinced that this anime is an underrated gem.

More topics from this board

» The only reason why this anime was made

JoeChip - Feb 10

8 by HaruyukiIsCute »»
8 hours ago

Poll: » Übel Blatt Episode 1 Discussion ( 1 2 )

KANLen09 - Nov 28, 2024

88 by Unleashed_SM »»
Yesterday, 1:03 PM

Poll: » Übel Blatt Episode 2 Discussion ( 1 2 )

Stark700 - Jan 17

55 by Comander-07 »»
Yesterday, 12:40 PM

Poll: » Übel Blatt Episode 5 Discussion

Stark700 - Feb 7

19 by Mari_Marx »»
Yesterday, 11:17 AM

» Something seems mismatched

Voidian - Jan 18

8 by LoneWizzy »»
Feb 10, 3:01 AM
It’s time to ditch the text file.
Keep track of your anime easily by creating your own list.
Sign Up Login