| ranma already did it back in the 1990s https://myanimelist.net/manga/23/Ranma_%C2%BD |
| 1. This is not even tagged romance. 2. You understand that so many other shounen are tagged romance and succeeded. Notable example is Horimiya. |
CielordNov 12, 9:44 AM
| Shonen already has peak romance like nisekoi and quintuplets. |
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Bruh clearly this person means, action type shows as majority of those don’t delve much into romance. Why yall mentioning quintuplets and horimiya. Come on yall let’s not pretend we didn’t understand the question. Dandadan is one of a small few heavy action type animes that also delve hard into romance and clearly it works which was the point of the post.
| @Bailey_Swag i mentioned ranma its a battle shonen romance |
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Yeah sorry I didn’t mean you. You’re the only one who actually understood the topic
| @Bailey_Swag ah ok understood i thought you mean all the replies so far |
| It's not a Romance Anime and I don't feel like it's a "major plot point" But... Maybe it's proof that Romance and Shonen could be mixed better, in many other instances...sure^^ |
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| Romance actually feels forced here lol. Their chemistry feels more like best friends type. |
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Bruh clearly this person means, action type shows as majority of those don’t delve much into romance. Why yall mentioning quintuplets and horimiya. Come on yall let’s not pretend we didn’t understand the question. Dandadan is one of a small few heavy action type animes that also delve hard into romance and clearly it works which was the point of the post.
| @Bailey_Swag Clearly, this person should've specified. In general, this post isn't phrased well. |
| I’m like 99% sure Dandadan isn’t the first battle shonen to incorporate good romance while also being successful. Incidentally, Fujimoto’s Chainsaw Man also has romance that ties in well with the plot, or Ranma 1/2 as someone mentioned earlier. You just gotta know where to look, I suppose. |
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CocoJaypee said: Can you share some action/battle shounen with good developed romance as a major focus that was highly talked about during its release? Fate/Stay Night, InuYasha, Nanatsu no Taizai, Rurouni Kenshin and Shakugan no Shana were all major hits. Mitsuru Adachi is also very well known for his Sports/Romance series too. |
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Cielord said:
1. This is not even tagged romance.
2. You understand that so many other shounen are tagged romance and succeeded. Notable example is Horimiya.
1. This is not even tagged romance.
2. You understand that so many other shounen are tagged romance and succeeded. Notable example is Horimiya.
Oh yes, Horimiya the famous BATTLE shounen. One of my favourites to be honest.
| @kyo_1 You can clearly see that OP edited his reply to specify he is talking about action shows. |
CocoJaypee said: Cielord said: @kyo_1 You can clearly see that OP edited his reply to specify he is talking about action shows. Apologies for not specifying the type of shounen I'm referring to, but I mean, you could've put two and two together to realize that I'm referring to action shounens because dandadan is very different from horimiya You didn't talk about the action part being an obstacle to the romance but the demographic. So please spare me this BS. |
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Cielord said:
You didn't talk about the action part being an obstacle to the romance but the demographic. So please spare me this BS.
CocoJaypee said:
Apologies for not specifying the type of shounen I'm referring to, but I mean, you could've put two and two together to realize that I'm referring to action shounens because dandadan is very different from horimiya
Apologies for not specifying the type of shounen I'm referring to, but I mean, you could've put two and two together to realize that I'm referring to action shounens because dandadan is very different from horimiya
You didn't talk about the action part being an obstacle to the romance but the demographic. So please spare me this BS.
Well the action contributes a lot to the demographic because action shounen authors believe that since their readers are mostly comprised of boys, they put more development on the action and not the romance because they assume that boys are not interested in romance
In any case I've cleared up the misunderstanding so do you have anything else to say?
| @CocoJaypee The demographic is just the demographic; what truly determines the content of the series is the genres/themes. When it comes to action series, what makes you think that it was a matter of authors not believing their readers would want romance, instead of simply not wanting to give focus on romance? Especially with the fact that there were many successful romance shounen and romance-action shounen. |
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Cielord said:
@CocoJaypee The demographic is just the demographic; what truly determines the content of the series is the genres/themes.
When it comes to action series, what makes you think that it was a matter of authors not believing their readers would want romance, instead of simply not wanting to give focus on romance? Especially with the fact that there were many successful romance shounen and romance-action shounen.
@CocoJaypee The demographic is just the demographic; what truly determines the content of the series is the genres/themes.
When it comes to action series, what makes you think that it was a matter of authors not believing their readers would want romance, instead of simply not wanting to give focus on romance? Especially with the fact that there were many successful romance shounen and romance-action shounen.
Eiichiro Oda previously said that romance doesn't have a place in his work. His reasoning isn't because he couldn't write it, but because his manga is targeted at boys and he believes fans should read shoujo for romance.
not to generalize but I think it's safe to say that Oda isn't the only author who has this mindset
Nevertheless, not wanting to focus on romance, especially when authors give their characters a love interest, results in poor feedback
Look at Naruto. many criticize sasuke and sakura for having no chemistry and no build up to their relationship. Dont tell me that in the 700 chapters the manga has, that author couldn't bother to develop their relationship?
And can you share some examples of these romance-action shounens you are referring to that have made waves recently? Don't give me classic ones like Ranma or Inuyasha, preferrably something more recent. I would like to check them out
| @CocoJaypee CocoJaypee said: Eiichiro Oda previously said that romance doesn't have a place in his work. His reasoning isn't because he couldn't write it, but because his manga is targeted at boys and he believes fans should read shoujo for romance. Eiichiro Oda is one person and this personal view. It is completely ludicrous to just assume all shounen authors share the same views. CocoJaypee said: Nevertheless, not wanting to focus on romance, especially when authors give their characters a love interest, results in poor feedback Look at Naruto. many criticize sasuke and sakura for having no chemistry and no build up to their relationship. Dont tell me that in the 700 chapters the manga has, that author couldn't bother to develop their relationship? Poor feedback (from some people online), but the success of Naruto is objective. CocoJaypee said: And can you share some examples of these romance-action shounens you are referring to that have made waves recently? Don't give me classic ones like Ranma or Inuyasha, preferrably something more recent. I would like to check them out Did I specify or, in any way, implied recently? No. Don't put words in my mouth. If you want to watch/read romance-action shounen, then you can use the advanced search function. |
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Cielord said:
@CocoJaypee
Eiichiro Oda is one person and this personal view. It is completely ludicrous to just assume all shounen authors share the same views.
Poor feedback (from some people online), but the success of Naruto is objective.
Did I specify or, in any way, implied recently? No. Don't put words in my mouth. If you want to watch/read romance-action shounen, then you can use the advanced search function.
@CocoJaypee
CocoJaypee said:
Eiichiro Oda previously said that romance doesn't have a place in his work. His reasoning isn't because he couldn't write it, but because his manga is targeted at boys and he believes fans should read shoujo for romance.
Eiichiro Oda previously said that romance doesn't have a place in his work. His reasoning isn't because he couldn't write it, but because his manga is targeted at boys and he believes fans should read shoujo for romance.
Eiichiro Oda is one person and this personal view. It is completely ludicrous to just assume all shounen authors share the same views.
CocoJaypee said:
Nevertheless, not wanting to focus on romance, especially when authors give their characters a love interest, results in poor feedback
Look at Naruto. many criticize sasuke and sakura for having no chemistry and no build up to their relationship. Dont tell me that in the 700 chapters the manga has, that author couldn't bother to develop their relationship?
Nevertheless, not wanting to focus on romance, especially when authors give their characters a love interest, results in poor feedback
Look at Naruto. many criticize sasuke and sakura for having no chemistry and no build up to their relationship. Dont tell me that in the 700 chapters the manga has, that author couldn't bother to develop their relationship?
Poor feedback (from some people online), but the success of Naruto is objective.
CocoJaypee said:
And can you share some examples of these romance-action shounens you are referring to that have made waves recently? Don't give me classic ones like Ranma or Inuyasha, preferrably something more recent. I would like to check them out
And can you share some examples of these romance-action shounens you are referring to that have made waves recently? Don't give me classic ones like Ranma or Inuyasha, preferrably something more recent. I would like to check them out
Did I specify or, in any way, implied recently? No. Don't put words in my mouth. If you want to watch/read romance-action shounen, then you can use the advanced search function.
If Oda is just one person then why do many people criticize the shounen genre for failing to develop a good romantic plot between characters. It's because other authors commit the same mistake whether or not intentionally
Yes, I'm not denying that Naruto is successful, but it's success is largely rooted from its action scenes and not the romance. Dandadan seems to be praised for both action scenes and its romance element, hence why I'm asking whether the show proves that even if an action shounen work focuses on romance, it will not diminish its popularity from the perceived "mostly boys" demographic of the genre
Lastly, why can't you give me any action romance shounen that are successful recently? you're the one being adamant about the "fact" that there are "many successful" romance action shows, so suggest me one that's recent. is it because there are none? is your knowledge only limited to the classics?
| @CocoJaypee CocoJaypee said: If Oda is just one person then why do many people criticize the shounen genre for failing to develop a good romantic plot between characters. It's because other authors commit the same mistake whether or not intentionally Shounen isn't a genre. People criticize what they believe to be bad and praise while they believe to be good, and I assure you, some people criticized one shounen for the romance and some praised another shounen for the romance. CocoJaypee said: Yes, I'm not denying that Naruto is successful, but it's success is largely rooted from its action scenes and not the romance. It really doesn't matter that Naruto isn't popular because of the romance, because (be shocked) Naruto isn't a romance. An ecchi series won't be successful because of its adventure. CocoJaypee said: Dandadan seems to be praised for both action scenes and its romance element, hence why I'm asking whether the show proves that even if an action shounen work focuses on romance, it will not diminish its popularity from the perceived "mostly boys" demographic of the genre People have already given you numerous examples of action-romance shounen that are very successful. CocoJaypee said: Lastly, why can't you give me any action romance shounen that are successful recently? all you have to do is type the titles. is it because there are none? are you only sticking to the classics? I made a claim that there were plenty of successful action-romance shounen, I didn't specify if those were old or newer series. I will reiterate: People already given you examples of what you asked, at this point the conversation should be over. |
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Cielord said:
@Bailey_Swag Clearly, this person should've specified.
In general, this post isn't phrased well.
@Bailey_Swag Clearly, this person should've specified.
In general, this post isn't phrased well.
It’s low key obvious
| @Bailey_Swag CocoJaypee said: A lot of action/battle shounen works don't really develop the romance between their characters because of "demographic," with authors saying that the readers which largely consists of boys are not interested with a romance subplot Not when this is what he specified. |
Bailey_Swag said: Bruh clearly this person means, action type shows as majority of those don’t delve much into romance. Why yall mentioning quintuplets and horimiya. Come on yall let’s not pretend we didn’t understand the question. Dandadan is one of a small few heavy action type animes that also delve hard into romance and clearly it works which was the point of the post. I didn't start to watch it and don't know much about the manga, so is there a serious romance development between Ken and Momo? |
Bailey_Swag said: Bruh clearly this person means, action type shows as majority of those don’t delve much into romance. Why yall mentioning quintuplets and horimiya. Come on yall let’s not pretend we didn’t understand the question. Dandadan is one of a small few heavy action type animes that also delve hard into romance and clearly it works which was the point of the post. I didn't start to watch it and don't know much about the manga, so is there a serious romance development between Ken and Momo? |
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Literally says action
| @Bailey_Swag Yeah, after he edited it. And learn how to reply. |
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