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Jul 14, 6:25 PM
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Well it seems that Zenith has lost her memory. Is it possible for her to gain it back or will she have to forge new ones?

And then we got a relationship forming between Roxy and Rudy, which is more complicated given that Rudy made a promise to Sylphie that he will be faithful to her. In American society (I’m American BTW), it’s generally frowned upon to have multiple spouses/significant others, so I get why Rudy made that promise in the first place.

I also understand that since it’s apparent that both Roxy and Sylphie love him to a point where they can’t be happy without him, he has no other choice, unless he can somehow find somebody else for Roxy.

Now that everybody is in the Northern continent, maybe everybody can settle down and things can be figured out. Rudy did intentionally get a big house, so I’m assuming he can fit everybody in the party in his house just fine. He’ll have to explain things to Sylphie and then we’ll see how that goes.

The difference between Paul and Rudy in this case is that Rudy didn’t decide to do this out of his desire for both women, but because it was made clear by Elinalise that this may be the only way for the two to be happy. Otherwise I don’t see what else he could do.

I’m looking forward to what’s to come.
Jul 16, 6:51 PM

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If Millis is supposed to be a parallel of Catholicism, then I'd assume the equal of Islam also exists in that world (considering the city Rudeus lives in is named 'Sharia'). According to Islamic law, the husband actually isn't required to get his wife (/wives)'s permission if he wanted to marry another woman. Though, there's a limit to how many wives can one get. Rudeus can marry two more if he wanted to.
Jul 17, 9:57 PM

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That's some real loyalty to sylphie lmao
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Jul 18, 8:16 AM
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Ok, Roxy loves Rudy, makes sense as her reasons are stated way back in season 1.
Roxy slept with Rudy fully knowing his life situation at that point. What!!!! A selfish harpy!!
But it is kinda excusable as Rudy was in a tough situation.
Everything is fine up to this point.
Then it all goes to the shitter.
Okay, so Rudy LOVES Roxy as a lover now, total relationship shit bro.
How has a relationship that has never even been hinted, mentioned or developed in the series except the past 2-3 eps now such an important thing.
Heck, Rudy never loved Roxy as a partner, he always admired her as a teacher. Now he just can't say he doesn't love her.
I mean come on, how does that even begin to make sense.
What, just because you want to make her happy fuck your own feelings.
What Rudy thinks is said like it is obvious that he will marry her and that it is only a matter of time.
This shit was only in Roxy's head remember?
How is Rudeus so deeply touched by her love?
This makes no sense.
I loved this show before this point but now it has totally shat on all that it did.
I know they will try to show how complex relationships work, but seriously, polygamy? that's all you could come up with?
There probably is a good payoff to this but I just cant see it from the state it is right now.
Jul 22, 11:54 PM
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This was SO manipulative of Roxy to do. After his dad died like 3 days ago? he won't stop wearing a shirt with his blood all over it? Let me bed him to make him feel better. WOW.
Aug 1, 7:01 AM

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I'm not against the marriage to Roxy or against polygamy. Actually, while not necessarily being clear that it would involve marriage or spelling out exactly what type of relationship they would have down the line, it was apparent from the first few episodes of the series that in addition to being partially an ecchi, this was a harem series of some sort and was going to go the harem route, if not right away then eventually. It was pretty blatant and straightforward in how one main girl was introduced after another within the first five episodes. First Roxy, then Sylphie, then Eris. Roxy was the first, the one I always found most attractive both in looks and personality (and voice!), and the one I would have wanted him to "get with" in some form were this not a harem series and he actually forced to choose only one. I felt that since the first episode of the series when she was initially introduced, that I thought the series would be enhanced and made more interesting if there were some form of romance involving them.

However, I have to say this: Not that a sex scene or implied sex offscreen, like what just happened, is necessarily "ecchi" in the way that term is understood in anime, but there were plenty of ecchi-related scenes and moments in the series up to now, and I get that it is in part played for comedy and in part meant for fanservice and gratification as a self-insert wish fulfillment on the part of some of the audience. I never had a problem with any of that. Whether Rudy draping a lady's underwear mask and licking it, masturbating to Eris on the ship voyage offscreen, all the groping and voyeurism, etc. Either it was mildly humorous, sexy, or if nothing else, at least provided further insight into the nature of his character.

But what I do find disturbing, not bad from the writing/creator's perspective if he is intentionally written this way, but bad about the character as a person, is that he seems to only ever to be able to solve everything important through sex. It's how he processes everything, gets over trauma, and seems like he's perpetually on the verge of always dying from a broken heart and despair, or actually driven to attempted suicide, if he doesn't get that validation through something sexual. It's like his only measure of approval and value, he feels worthless without it, and again just comes off like a desperate drug-addicted addict in relation to it. It's honestly just sad to see. Again, not criticizing the writing assuming he is meant to be that way which I assume and have no reason to believe is not the case. But he's no less a psychological basket case in this sense even at 50 years-old mentally (I believe that's accurate as he formerly died at 34 years-old and is supposed to be 16 years-old now in his new life and body) than he was in his previous life at 34 or as a high school teen.

Nothing wrong with sex and having it or being attracted to beautiful girls, but when it's his only measure of worth and he shuts down as a wreck without it because that affection is the only thing he sees worth in, it's just so unfortunate and upsetting for his sake. Why can't he see worth in himself as a person and an individual apart from all that? Why couldn't he ever, before he died? I wonder if the series will ever answer questions like that, or if asking them will just be chalked up to overthinking an ecchi harem power fantasy. But it's not like it's just a mindless gag comedy. When you incorporate this sort of heavy drama, you kind of invite such queries.

Unrelated to all that on a more minor note, it sucks for him and other characters that the healing magic in this world doesn't seem quite as advanced or versatile as it is in Dungeon Meshi, to be able to achieve lost limb and manus recovery.
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Aug 6, 6:39 AM

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With Paul's death, the cycle repeats itself as his son plans to take two women!
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Aug 7, 3:26 AM
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I had accidentally spoiled for myself that
But I'm glad to see that he is indeed fully conflicted at least. Feels more real this way.

Reading all your comments above, I see they left out Rudy sharing his past life with Roxy. Damn. That would've been powerful, I wonder why they left that out. At least they somewhat included it in with Rudy losing it and saying that he thought he "started over", but of course it would've been nice to see more.
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Aug 7, 4:53 AM
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Paul is dead, and his absence is alredy palpable, Zenith's state doesn't even justify his death since she isnt herself. I wonder how the girls will react.
Aug 8, 5:39 PM
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BAHAHAHAHAHA I FUCKING LOST IT AT THE CAMPFIRE SCENE WITH ELINA TALKING TO RUDY HAHAHAHAHAHA WHAT A FUCKING SHIT SHOW
THERE ARE ACTUAL PEOPLE WHO CALL THIS SHIT PEAK AND THEYRE THE SAME PEOPLE WHO WOULD SHIT ON MY TASTE HAHAHAHAHAHA
YOU HAVE GOT TO BE AN ABSOLUTE CUCKLORD TO ACTUALLY LIKE THIS DOGSHT HAHAHAHAHHAH
and roxy? man what a waste. i really liked her at the start of the show only to remove her and constantly build her up ALL FOR THIS???? only to turn her into this shit??? who the fuck wrote this????
like no fucking wonder the members number for part 2 is almost half of part 1 cause i would like to repeat myself by saying this show sucks my ass 3000
Aug 12, 1:05 PM

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he could have said no and stayed loyal to Sylphie but noooo, this amazing fantasy anime has turn into a stupid harem, i'm so done, season 3 can go straight in the bin as well
Aug 25, 6:43 AM
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fuck rudy and fuck roxy
Aug 27, 7:37 AM
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Okay, at this point the only way for this anime to get a score higher than 6/10 from me would be for the next season to start with a scene where wild beasts attack Rudy and Roxy, tear them both apart and for the anime to completely switch to a new protagonist.
Aug 31, 10:49 AM

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Okay, at this point the only way for this anime to get a score higher than 6/10 from me would be for the next season to start with a scene where wild beasts attack Rudy and Roxy, tear them both apart and for the anime to completely switch to a new protagonist.
@Morragan well rudy has 3 wives when he dies old age

ruby_rose180182 said:
fuck rudy and fuck roxy

lol then it was wrong series for u cause its a small harem, he will have 3
Aug 31, 4:19 PM
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@Morragan well rudy has 3 wives when he dies old age

ruby_rose180182 said:
fuck rudy and fuck roxy

lol then it was wrong series for u cause its a small harem, he will have 3
@Sugram22 So Rudeus remains a POS until the end of his life and the show remains a 6/10. Awesome.
Sep 1, 3:53 AM

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@Sugram22 So Rudeus remains a POS until the end of his life and the show remains a 6/10. Awesome.
@Morragan it probably continues as spinoff sins mangod is main bad and rudy dies old age while mangod continues existing and hes kids are destined to take him down
Sep 11, 10:27 AM
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lesssssssssssssssssssssssssssss go
Sep 16, 8:41 AM
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Disgusting author
Sep 17, 5:46 PM

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Sep 27, 1:15 AM
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Roxy was out of pocket for doing what she did. But strangely by the end of the episode the story and relationship was built in a way that somehow reconciled the massive effery that this normally would have been, in a sweet wholesome way. Still not sure how I feel about it.

I have also since read that in the LN, the anime cut out how Roxy did what she did because it had been weeks since Rudy stopped eating and being depressed, so that makes what she did more justifiable. Even still.
Oct 6, 3:30 AM
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Rudeus Roxy moment


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Oct 17, 4:13 PM
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which idiots headcannon was this episode??? like seriously why is the author projecting his own derangement and degeneracy into the series? now this show is a fucking harem???????????????????????????????????????????????????????? jfc i really despised this ep
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Oct 21, 8:15 PM

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PAUL IS ALIVE!!!!!!
Oct 23, 12:35 AM
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what the fuck is this?
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