| Why not save this talk for when the series is actually supposed to come out... |
Mr_Sai said: a remake was absolutely 100% necessary the original never finished plus there too many filler episodes I came here to say this but it has already been said. |
| Everything's fine n all, except Happosai. Heaven Forbids!! For the world has to face that degenerate geezer once again. |
Rahul_101Aug 19, 9:53 AM
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| Don't need it. It's super fine, the way it is. It's only flaw beeing that it's not finished....which will not be changed by this remake ...so....yeah. Don't need it, at all. Also, there's no way it'll be not whitewashed and censored, for 2024 audiences. No way this will feel like back in the day....They never do. You'll see.... this one will be pretty white washed and tame, in some instances. We might still get angry woke people, posting on twitter, after some Episodes, tho. Chances for that are pretty high. But hey....it will have slightly better animation than 1989's Version...yaaaaaay .....🙄 Noone wanted this... and they still proceed to squeeze some money out of it....It's sad, honestly :( |
Merve2LoveAug 22, 3:09 PM
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Don't need it.
It's super fine, the way it is. It's only flaw beeing that it's not finished....which will not be changed by this remake ...so....yeah. Don't need it, at all.
Also, there's no way it'll be not whitewashed and censored, for 2024 audiences. No way this will feel like back in the day....They never do.
You'll see.... this one will be pretty white washed and tame, in some instances. We might still get angry woke people, posting on twitter, after some Episodes, tho. Chances for that are pretty high.
But hey....it will have slightly better animation than 1989's Version...yaaaaaay .....🙄
Noone wanted this... and they still proceed to squeeze some money out of it....It's sad, honestly :(
It's super fine, the way it is. It's only flaw beeing that it's not finished....which will not be changed by this remake ...so....yeah. Don't need it, at all.
Also, there's no way it'll be not whitewashed and censored, for 2024 audiences. No way this will feel like back in the day....They never do.
You'll see.... this one will be pretty white washed and tame, in some instances. We might still get angry woke people, posting on twitter, after some Episodes, tho. Chances for that are pretty high.
But hey....it will have slightly better animation than 1989's Version...yaaaaaay .....🙄
Noone wanted this... and they still proceed to squeeze some money out of it....It's sad, honestly :(
| @Merve2Love >Whitewashed LOL, what? Also, no one wanted this? A whole ton of Rumiko fans have been begging for a Ranma remake or sequel for more than 20 years, moreso than any other Rumiko work, especially BECAUSE they barely adapted half of the manga (comparing to all others, which received a proper conclusion even if missing some content) lol Considering that the new anime is already more faithful than the original, and better paced/without filler (yeah, there was filler taken away already from the first 4 volumes they covered compared to the old anime), and has better animation (though I prefer the old artstyle a bit more), I don't think it's exactly as you said at all. Which is kind of ironic, seeing your pfp (and now that I check, favorite anime), you know what else was censored to hell and back for 75 or so episodes straight for airing in the morning and infantilized (got tamer by a notch, be it within the content on itself than in the art style)? HunterxHunter (2011) compared to the 90s anime and OVAs. Was that unnecessary as well, for those very same reasons, or was it worth the more faithful but mostly censored revival to adapt the rest of the content missing (which, hopefully, will continue to be adapted in this decade or the next from now)? Well I'd say it was worth it for sure. And by all means Ranma as well. I don't even care if both are less aesthetically pleasant nor toned down, the strenghts of their content always lied in the clever writing and great characters, for starters. |
DanpmssAug 22, 5:31 PM
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>Whitewashed
LOL, what?
Also, no one wanted this? A whole ton of Rumiko fans have been begging for a Ranma remake or sequel for more than 20 years, moreso than any other Rumiko work, especially BECAUSE they barely adapted half of the manga (comparing to all others, which received a proper conclusion even if missing some content) lol
Considering that the new anime is already more faithful than the original, and better paced/without filler (yeah, there was filler taken away already from the first 4 volumes they covered compared to the old anime), and has better animation (though I prefer the old artstyle a bit more), I don't think it's exactly as you said at all.
Which is kind of ironic, seeing your pfp (and now that I check, favorite anime), you know what else was censored to hell and back for 75 or so episodes straight for airing in the morning and infantilized (got tamer by a notch, be it within the content on itself than in the art style)?
HunterxHunter (2011) compared to the 90s anime and OVAs.
Was that unnecessary as well, for those very same reasons, or was it worth the more faithful but mostly censored revival to adapt the rest of the content missing (which, hopefully, will continue to be adapted in this decade or the next from now)? Well I'd say it was worth it for sure. And by all means Ranma as well. I don't even care if both are less aesthetically pleasant nor toned down, the strenghts of their content always lied in the clever writing and great characters, for starters.
>Whitewashed
LOL, what?
Also, no one wanted this? A whole ton of Rumiko fans have been begging for a Ranma remake or sequel for more than 20 years, moreso than any other Rumiko work, especially BECAUSE they barely adapted half of the manga (comparing to all others, which received a proper conclusion even if missing some content) lol
Considering that the new anime is already more faithful than the original, and better paced/without filler (yeah, there was filler taken away already from the first 4 volumes they covered compared to the old anime), and has better animation (though I prefer the old artstyle a bit more), I don't think it's exactly as you said at all.
Which is kind of ironic, seeing your pfp (and now that I check, favorite anime), you know what else was censored to hell and back for 75 or so episodes straight for airing in the morning and infantilized (got tamer by a notch, be it within the content on itself than in the art style)?
HunterxHunter (2011) compared to the 90s anime and OVAs.
Was that unnecessary as well, for those very same reasons, or was it worth the more faithful but mostly censored revival to adapt the rest of the content missing (which, hopefully, will continue to be adapted in this decade or the next from now)? Well I'd say it was worth it for sure. And by all means Ranma as well. I don't even care if both are less aesthetically pleasant nor toned down, the strenghts of their content always lied in the clever writing and great characters, for starters.
| @Danpmss What? It'll will be heavily censored - that's confirmed already. Also: This will not adapt never seen before material^^....So it won't give Fans this second half, you mentioned. HxH? Yeah, you're right. The 2011 Version is great. You know why? Cause it adapted Chimera Ants - Arc. THIS on the other hand will give fans a couple of Episodes they already know and loved, in the old style, but censored, cut and slightly better looking -> aka, nothing new and nothing anyone would want. It's not made for the guys who begged for a continued adaptation. It's made to try and get some more people talking about Ranma 1/2 again. It won't work. It never does. Full adaptation will never happen. And it certainly won't happen this fall xD ...So yeah....we don't need this. You and me, who watched it back in the day, aren't sitting in front of the Laptop with bated breath. It's recycled stuff, they're trying to make money with. They'll do 1-2 cour and then they're off to other business, trying to revive the next old Show .... :( They'd need like 10 new Seasons of Ranma, after this one to even scratch the things you're talking about. Look around.... did this EVER happen with these remakes? No. No, never. |
Merve2LoveAug 22, 7:21 PM
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What? It'll will be heavily censored - that's confirmed already.
Also: This will not adapt never seen before material^^....So it won't give Fans this second half, you mentioned.
HxH? Yeah, you're right. The 2011 Version is great. You know why? Cause it adapted Chimera Ants - Arc.
THIS on the other hand will give fans a couple of Episodes they already know and loved, in the old style, but censored, cut and slightly better looking
-> aka, nothing new and nothing anyone would want.
It's not made for the guys who begged for a continued adaptation.
It's made to try and get some more people talking about Ranma 1/2 again.
It won't work. It never does. Full adaptation will never happen. And it certainly won't happen this fall xD ...So yeah....we don't need this.
You and me, who watched it back in the day, aren't sitting in front of the Laptop with bated breath. It's recycled stuff, they're trying to make money with.
They'll do 1-2 cour and then they're off to other business, trying to revive the next old Show .... :(
They'd need like 10 new Seasons of Ranma, after this one to even scratch the things you're talking about.
Look around.... did this EVER happen with these remakes? No. No, never.
What? It'll will be heavily censored - that's confirmed already.
Also: This will not adapt never seen before material^^....So it won't give Fans this second half, you mentioned.
HxH? Yeah, you're right. The 2011 Version is great. You know why? Cause it adapted Chimera Ants - Arc.
THIS on the other hand will give fans a couple of Episodes they already know and loved, in the old style, but censored, cut and slightly better looking
-> aka, nothing new and nothing anyone would want.
It's not made for the guys who begged for a continued adaptation.
It's made to try and get some more people talking about Ranma 1/2 again.
It won't work. It never does. Full adaptation will never happen. And it certainly won't happen this fall xD ...So yeah....we don't need this.
You and me, who watched it back in the day, aren't sitting in front of the Laptop with bated breath. It's recycled stuff, they're trying to make money with.
They'll do 1-2 cour and then they're off to other business, trying to revive the next old Show .... :(
They'd need like 10 new Seasons of Ranma, after this one to even scratch the things you're talking about.
Look around.... did this EVER happen with these remakes? No. No, never.
| @Merve2Love No, it isn't "heavily censored" (I already rewatched the leaked eps once now), they only removed the nipples (censorship all the same as it may as well be, it's not that much big of a deal). Much like Mappa always do, such as with Dorohedoro. And that one had far more nudity than Ranma would ever hope for in the manga lol (didn't make much of a difference there either, even though the manga is more ecchi than Ranma, because yeah, nipples are not exactly the thing people are coming to watch for). Speaking of, you don't seem to mind much the far greater censorship in Dorohedoro, so what makes it a problem here that isn't in there (seeing that it is also in your favorites)? This will not adapt never seen before material >HxH? Yeah, you're right. The 2011 Version is great. You know why? Cause it adapted Chimera Ants - Arc. >THIS on the other hand will give fans a couple of Episodes they already know and loved, in the old style, but censored, cut and slightly better looking >Full adaptation will never happen. ...So yeah....we don't need this. And your source for this is? "I made it the fuck up" "xD"? And this will eventually get where the manga stopped being adapted too, took HxH2011 nearly 80 episodes, and for Ranma it will be far less to reach the same threshold at the current pacing (there's already a skipped manga-only arc to be covered in the very next cour for this). >It's not made for the guys who begged for a continued adaptation. It's made to try and get some more people talking about Ranma 1/2 again. Then you would say the same about HxH 2011, which also started from the beginning and took years to get to where Chimera Ants started, the new content. Everything else was not made with the people wanting a continuation of the old series in mind then? Only exclusively new audiences and no one else? Cut the bullshit, not even you believe what you just spouted. Similar to HxH 2011, this remake was made for both old and new fans, people who wanted for the anime to continue (which it will highly likely reach an available conclusion with this new adaptation, much like remakes usually do, unless you oh so beg to disagree with at least one example that doesn't). If they make a whole ass remake, it means they intend to go forward and finish it up to whatever finishing line is presently available at the very least, it's how these things work, even if they were to just adapt a selection of key important chapters in order to reach a conclusion. >And it certainly won't happen this fall xD PS: You don't say, so you are telling me a 38 volumes long series can't be covered in its 12ep initial run (which covered the first 4 volumes with impeccable pacing)? Oh my god, the shock! |
DanpmssAug 22, 7:56 PM
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@Merve2Love No, it isn't "heavily censored" (I already rewatched the leaked eps once now), they only removed the nipples (censorship all the same as it may as well be, it's not that much big of a deal).
Much like Mappa always do, such as with Dorohedoro. And that one had far more nudity than Ranma would ever hope for in the manga lol (didn't make much of a difference there either, even though the manga is more ecchi than Ranma, because yeah, nipples are not exactly the thing people are coming to watch for).
Speaking of, you don't seem to mind much the far greater censorship in Dorohedoro, so what makes it a problem here that isn't in there (seeing that it is also in your favorites)?
And your source for this is? "I made it the fuck up" "xD"?
And this will eventually get where the manga stopped being adapted too, took HxH2011 nearly 80 episodes, and for Ranma it will be far less to reach the same threshold at the current pacing (there's already a skipped manga-only arc to be covered in the very next cour for this).
Then you would say the same about HxH 2011, which also started from the beginning and took years to get to where Chimera Ants started, the new content. Everything else was not made with the people wanting a continuation of the old series in mind then? Only exclusively new audiences and no one else?
Cut the bullshit, not even you believe what you just spouted. Similar to HxH 2011, this remake was made for both old and new fans, people who wanted for the anime to continue (which it will highly likely reach an available conclusion with this new adaptation, much like remakes usually do, unless you oh so beg to disagree with at least one example that doesn't).
If they make a whole ass remake, it means they intend to go forward and finish it up to whatever finishing line is presently available at the very least, it's how these things work, even if they were to just adapt a selection of key important chapters in order to reach a conclusion.
PS: You don't say, so you are telling me a 38 volumes long series can't be covered in its 12ep initial run (which covered the first 4 volumes with impeccable pacing)? Oh my god, the shock!
Much like Mappa always do, such as with Dorohedoro. And that one had far more nudity than Ranma would ever hope for in the manga lol (didn't make much of a difference there either, even though the manga is more ecchi than Ranma, because yeah, nipples are not exactly the thing people are coming to watch for).
Speaking of, you don't seem to mind much the far greater censorship in Dorohedoro, so what makes it a problem here that isn't in there (seeing that it is also in your favorites)?
This will not adapt never seen before material
>HxH? Yeah, you're right. The 2011 Version is great. You know why? Cause it adapted Chimera Ants - Arc.
>THIS on the other hand will give fans a couple of Episodes they already know and loved, in the old style, but censored, cut and slightly better looking
>Full adaptation will never happen. ...So yeah....we don't need this.
>HxH? Yeah, you're right. The 2011 Version is great. You know why? Cause it adapted Chimera Ants - Arc.
>THIS on the other hand will give fans a couple of Episodes they already know and loved, in the old style, but censored, cut and slightly better looking
>Full adaptation will never happen. ...So yeah....we don't need this.
And your source for this is? "I made it the fuck up" "xD"?
And this will eventually get where the manga stopped being adapted too, took HxH2011 nearly 80 episodes, and for Ranma it will be far less to reach the same threshold at the current pacing (there's already a skipped manga-only arc to be covered in the very next cour for this).
>It's not made for the guys who begged for a continued adaptation. It's made to try and get some more people talking about Ranma 1/2 again.
Then you would say the same about HxH 2011, which also started from the beginning and took years to get to where Chimera Ants started, the new content. Everything else was not made with the people wanting a continuation of the old series in mind then? Only exclusively new audiences and no one else?
Cut the bullshit, not even you believe what you just spouted. Similar to HxH 2011, this remake was made for both old and new fans, people who wanted for the anime to continue (which it will highly likely reach an available conclusion with this new adaptation, much like remakes usually do, unless you oh so beg to disagree with at least one example that doesn't).
If they make a whole ass remake, it means they intend to go forward and finish it up to whatever finishing line is presently available at the very least, it's how these things work, even if they were to just adapt a selection of key important chapters in order to reach a conclusion.
>And it certainly won't happen this fall xD
PS: You don't say, so you are telling me a 38 volumes long series can't be covered in its 12ep initial run (which covered the first 4 volumes with impeccable pacing)? Oh my god, the shock!
| @Danpmss Wait, you thought I had insider knowledge or I needed a source to quote to say this? xD It's just an opinion, my boy. Relax^^ An Opinion I have, because of Reboots like: Shaman King, Sailor Moon or Urusei Yatsura. Did they deliever full adaptation? Are they what the fans wanted? No. Were fans kinda disappointed, each time? Yes. So I don't think Im beeing too ridiculous by beeing a bit skeptical^^ I guess, it's good to have faith, tho. They're kinda doing it with Kenshin. Hope you're right and they do go through with it. But I can see Ranma failing, waaaaaaaaay before we get to that point. Peace. ....oh.... And I can't say the same thing about the 2011 Version of HxH. Because while it DID take time, it delivered something new. It was 148 Episodes. That's not like it's done, nowadays, unfortunately. |
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@Danpmss
Wait, you thought I had insider knowledge or I needed a source to quote to say this? xD
It's just an opinion, my boy. Relax^^
An Opinion I have, because of Reboots like: Shaman King, Sailor Moon or Urusei Yatsura.
Did they deliever full adaptation? Are they what the fans wanted? No. Were fans kinda disappointed, each time? Yes.
So I don't think Im beeing too ridiculous by beeing a bit skeptical^^
I guess, it's good to have faith, tho. They're kinda doing it with Kenshin.
Hope you're right and they do go through with it. But I can see Ranma failing, waaaaaaaaay before we get to that point.
Peace.
....oh....
And I can't say the same thing about the 2011 Version of HxH. Because while it DID take time, it delivered something new. It was 148 Episodes.
That's not like it's done, nowadays, unfortunately.
Wait, you thought I had insider knowledge or I needed a source to quote to say this? xD
It's just an opinion, my boy. Relax^^
An Opinion I have, because of Reboots like: Shaman King, Sailor Moon or Urusei Yatsura.
Did they deliever full adaptation? Are they what the fans wanted? No. Were fans kinda disappointed, each time? Yes.
So I don't think Im beeing too ridiculous by beeing a bit skeptical^^
I guess, it's good to have faith, tho. They're kinda doing it with Kenshin.
Hope you're right and they do go through with it. But I can see Ranma failing, waaaaaaaaay before we get to that point.
Peace.
....oh....
And I can't say the same thing about the 2011 Version of HxH. Because while it DID take time, it delivered something new. It was 148 Episodes.
That's not like it's done, nowadays, unfortunately.
| @Merve2Love Wait, you thought I had insider knowledge or I needed a source to quote to say this? xD It's just an opinion, my boy. Relax^^ My dear MAL user, when you say so confidently that something WILL happen and use that as your main argument as to why something is "X"/bound to "X" in a discussion, you do realize I'm not the person treating your words as facts (as opposed to opinions) here, you are lol Also, I'm pretty calm, I'm more than anything just baffled (and slightly entertained) by the things you are saying with every single precedent going on the opposite direction, and your complains not applying to anime that are on your favorites (which are the same sort of adaptation in more ways than one, and actually had a much bigger censorship than this for most of their content). I do apologize for the swearing, but this is kinda funny to me haha An Opinion I have, because of Reboots like: Shaman King, Sailor Moon or Urusei Yatsura. 1- Every single one of the remakes you just listed had their source material's conclusion in one way or another just like I said before (and Shaman King had a far better conclusion following the manga than that anime original subpar plotline we got in the first anime, even if it rushed through a lot of the earlier parts). 2- This adaptation is basically a panel-by-panel adaptation from the manga and even more faithful than the original manga, it's not missing nor altering in any significant way a single part of their content (not that Urusei Yatsura counts, as the original anime was even more of a mess of mixed plotlines from the manga, it's just more of that, but condensed to just the main cast and main plot beats). 3- You are making an argument ad populum here, and one assuming that most people agree with you that the remakes you are mentioning are bad to begin with, which on itself, at the very least statistically-wise, it's not true. Let's follow that same mindset then: Shaman King was relatively well received despite its flaws, with most people agreeing on a 7/10 here on MAL, because the production team clearly tried their best to adapt it well in 4 cours (it was as good as we would get with the limited episodes they were given, and even the anime staff straight up STATED that themselves), and Urusei Yatsura was very well received overall (because it just did exactly what the rather beloved old anime did, but in a shorter run time not adapting all the mostly episodic chapters, which the original anime didn't either). Hell even Sailor Moon Crystal's criticism was usually directed towards animation issues, and that adaptation as a whole was mostly well received as well for being more faithful to the manga, much like the other 2 examples (season 3 in particular, as well as the movies are about as well received as the wildly popular original anime in this site). So to answer your questions: Did they deliever full adaptation? Yes. Are they what the fans wanted? By all means not perfect, but for the most part, yes, they were well received by fans in an overview (despite their flaws, major or not). Were fans kinda disappointed, each time? Many fans were, you can't please everyone. On the other hand, a higher number of fans were satisfied with the aforementioned 3 remakes. So I don't think Im beeing too ridiculous by beeing a bit skeptical^^ I guess, it's good to have faith, tho. They're kinda doing it with Kenshin. Hope you're right and they do go through with it. But I can see Ranma failing, waaaaaaaaay before we get to that point. You are free to be skeptical all you want and even criticize as harshly as you possibly can if you want. So long as you are being coherent with your critique, and intellectualy honest with the points you are making, I don't think that should ever be an issue. Which of course, I'm just calling out that you weren't, as you are even straight up assuming things that either have no precedents, are already confirmed to be completely untrue, or are pretty much things you are pointing out as so-called major issues that you didn't even see in your favorite anime in your very list that did the very same, but in an even bigger scale in the past. ....oh.... And I can't say the same thing about the 2011 Version of HxH. Because while it DID take time, it delivered something new. It was 148 Episodes. That's not like it's done, nowadays, unfortunately. As I said before, Ranma is only 12 episodes in. HxH2011 didn't have anything new for nearly 2 years worth of episodes (more than half of its run). Even if Ranma was to deliver a season every 2 years, the next one already have a manga-only arc that is new content never before adapted (and chances are that it's either a split-cour or an annual anime). You are just making a whole lot of assumptions and using them as your points, but the truth is that you are basically doomposting without evidence, and with all precedents (in terms of remakes) in anime going pretty much against your words. I repeat, do you really think they would revive Ranma and just drop it after 12 episodes adapting the first 4 volumes to perfection just like that? Unlike every single other anime remake in existence, that went for a complete adaptation from the source, as time went on. Ranma, a timeless beloved classic by the queen of mangakas, would be the one to create that precedent? Really?? |
DanpmssAug 23, 7:16 PM
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My dear MAL user, when you say so confidently that something WILL happen and use that as your main argument as to why something is "X"/bound to "X" in a discussion, you do realize I'm not the person treating your words as facts (as opposed to opinions) here, you are lol
Also, I'm pretty calm, I'm more than anything just baffled (and slightly entertained) by the things you are saying with every single precedent going on the opposite direction, and your complains not applying to anime that are on your favorites (which are the same sort of adaptation in more ways than one, and actually had a much bigger censorship than this for most of their content). I do apologize for the swearing, but this is kinda funny to me haha
1- Every single one of the remakes you just listed had their source material's conclusion in one way or another just like I said before (and Shaman King had a far better conclusion following the manga than that anime original subpar plotline we got in the first anime, even if it rushed through a lot of the earlier parts).
2- This adaptation is basically a panel-by-panel adaptation from the manga and even more faithful than the original manga, it's not missing nor altering in any significant way a single part of their content (not that Urusei Yatsura counts, as the original anime was even more of a mess of mixed plotlines from the manga, it's just more of that, but condensed to just the main cast and main plot beats).
3- You are making an argument ad populum here, and one assuming that most people agree with you that the remakes you are mentioning are bad to begin with, which on itself, at the very least statistically-wise, it's not true.
Let's follow that same mindset then: Shaman King was relatively well received despite its flaws, with most people agreeing on a 7/10 here on MAL, because the production team clearly tried their best to adapt it well in 4 cours (it was as good as we would get with the limited episodes they were given, and even the anime staff straight up STATED that themselves), and Urusei Yatsura was very well received overall (because it just did exactly what the rather beloved old anime did, but in a shorter run time not adapting all the mostly episodic chapters, which the original anime didn't either).
Hell even Sailor Moon Crystal's criticism was usually directed towards animation issues, and that adaptation as a whole was mostly well received as well for being more faithful to the manga, much like the other 2 examples (season 3 in particular, as well as the movies are about as well received as the wildly popular original anime in this site).
So to answer your questions:
Yes.
By all means not perfect, but for the most part, yes, they were well received by fans in an overview (despite their flaws, major or not).
Many fans were, you can't please everyone. On the other hand, a higher number of fans were satisfied with the aforementioned 3 remakes.
You are free to be skeptical all you want and even criticize as harshly as you possibly can if you want.
So long as you are being coherent with your critique, and intellectualy honest with the points you are making, I don't think that should ever be an issue.
Which of course, I'm just calling out that you weren't, as you are even straight up assuming things that either have no precedents, are already confirmed to be completely untrue, or are pretty much things you are pointing out as so-called major issues that you didn't even see in your favorite anime in your very list that did the very same, but in an even bigger scale in the past.
As I said before, Ranma is only 12 episodes in. HxH2011 didn't have anything new for nearly 2 years worth of episodes (more than half of its run).
Even if Ranma was to deliver a season every 2 years, the next one already have a manga-only arc that is new content never before adapted (and chances are that it's either a split-cour or an annual anime). You are just making a whole lot of assumptions and using them as your points, but the truth is that you are basically doomposting without evidence, and with all precedents (in terms of remakes) in anime going pretty much against your words.
I repeat, do you really think they would revive Ranma and just drop it after 12 episodes adapting the first 4 volumes to perfection just like that? Unlike every single other anime remake in existence, that went for a complete adaptation from the source, as time went on. Ranma, a timeless beloved classic by the queen of mangakas, would be the one to create that precedent? Really??
Wait, you thought I had insider knowledge or I needed a source to quote to say this? xD
It's just an opinion, my boy. Relax^^
It's just an opinion, my boy. Relax^^
My dear MAL user, when you say so confidently that something WILL happen and use that as your main argument as to why something is "X"/bound to "X" in a discussion, you do realize I'm not the person treating your words as facts (as opposed to opinions) here, you are lol
Also, I'm pretty calm, I'm more than anything just baffled (and slightly entertained) by the things you are saying with every single precedent going on the opposite direction, and your complains not applying to anime that are on your favorites (which are the same sort of adaptation in more ways than one, and actually had a much bigger censorship than this for most of their content). I do apologize for the swearing, but this is kinda funny to me haha
An Opinion I have, because of Reboots like: Shaman King, Sailor Moon or Urusei Yatsura.
1- Every single one of the remakes you just listed had their source material's conclusion in one way or another just like I said before (and Shaman King had a far better conclusion following the manga than that anime original subpar plotline we got in the first anime, even if it rushed through a lot of the earlier parts).
2- This adaptation is basically a panel-by-panel adaptation from the manga and even more faithful than the original manga, it's not missing nor altering in any significant way a single part of their content (not that Urusei Yatsura counts, as the original anime was even more of a mess of mixed plotlines from the manga, it's just more of that, but condensed to just the main cast and main plot beats).
3- You are making an argument ad populum here, and one assuming that most people agree with you that the remakes you are mentioning are bad to begin with, which on itself, at the very least statistically-wise, it's not true.
Let's follow that same mindset then: Shaman King was relatively well received despite its flaws, with most people agreeing on a 7/10 here on MAL, because the production team clearly tried their best to adapt it well in 4 cours (it was as good as we would get with the limited episodes they were given, and even the anime staff straight up STATED that themselves), and Urusei Yatsura was very well received overall (because it just did exactly what the rather beloved old anime did, but in a shorter run time not adapting all the mostly episodic chapters, which the original anime didn't either).
Hell even Sailor Moon Crystal's criticism was usually directed towards animation issues, and that adaptation as a whole was mostly well received as well for being more faithful to the manga, much like the other 2 examples (season 3 in particular, as well as the movies are about as well received as the wildly popular original anime in this site).
So to answer your questions:
Did they deliever full adaptation?
Yes.
Are they what the fans wanted?
By all means not perfect, but for the most part, yes, they were well received by fans in an overview (despite their flaws, major or not).
Were fans kinda disappointed, each time?
Many fans were, you can't please everyone. On the other hand, a higher number of fans were satisfied with the aforementioned 3 remakes.
So I don't think Im beeing too ridiculous by beeing a bit skeptical^^
I guess, it's good to have faith, tho. They're kinda doing it with Kenshin.
Hope you're right and they do go through with it. But I can see Ranma failing, waaaaaaaaay before we get to that point.
I guess, it's good to have faith, tho. They're kinda doing it with Kenshin.
Hope you're right and they do go through with it. But I can see Ranma failing, waaaaaaaaay before we get to that point.
You are free to be skeptical all you want and even criticize as harshly as you possibly can if you want.
So long as you are being coherent with your critique, and intellectualy honest with the points you are making, I don't think that should ever be an issue.
Which of course, I'm just calling out that you weren't, as you are even straight up assuming things that either have no precedents, are already confirmed to be completely untrue, or are pretty much things you are pointing out as so-called major issues that you didn't even see in your favorite anime in your very list that did the very same, but in an even bigger scale in the past.
....oh....
And I can't say the same thing about the 2011 Version of HxH. Because while it DID take time, it delivered something new. It was 148 Episodes.
That's not like it's done, nowadays, unfortunately.
And I can't say the same thing about the 2011 Version of HxH. Because while it DID take time, it delivered something new. It was 148 Episodes.
That's not like it's done, nowadays, unfortunately.
As I said before, Ranma is only 12 episodes in. HxH2011 didn't have anything new for nearly 2 years worth of episodes (more than half of its run).
Even if Ranma was to deliver a season every 2 years, the next one already have a manga-only arc that is new content never before adapted (and chances are that it's either a split-cour or an annual anime). You are just making a whole lot of assumptions and using them as your points, but the truth is that you are basically doomposting without evidence, and with all precedents (in terms of remakes) in anime going pretty much against your words.
I repeat, do you really think they would revive Ranma and just drop it after 12 episodes adapting the first 4 volumes to perfection just like that? Unlike every single other anime remake in existence, that went for a complete adaptation from the source, as time went on. Ranma, a timeless beloved classic by the queen of mangakas, would be the one to create that precedent? Really??
| @Danpmss Im sorry, dude. I don't have the energy for this xD Uhm....sorry, if my opinion angered you. |
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@Danpmss
Im sorry, dude. I don't have the energy for this xD
Uhm....sorry, if my opinion angered you.
Im sorry, dude. I don't have the energy for this xD
Uhm....sorry, if my opinion angered you.
| @Merve2Love Not even angry haha I'm just wordy and found the way you expressed your opinion (and your arguments for it) baffling lol But I had a good laugh, so thanks. |
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@Merve2Love
Not even angry haha
I'm just wordy and found the way you expressed your opinion (and your arguments for it) baffling lol
But I had a good laugh, so thanks.
Not even angry haha
I'm just wordy and found the way you expressed your opinion (and your arguments for it) baffling lol
But I had a good laugh, so thanks.
| @Danpmss Pretty condescending and angry....for some reason..... xD But yeah. You turned me around. I agree with everything you said. Good discussion. Seeya. |
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Mr_Sai said:
a remake was absolutely 100% necessary
the original never finished plus there too many filler episodes
a remake was absolutely 100% necessary
the original never finished plus there too many filler episodes
I came here to say this but it has already been said.
| @0451 No need. Filler episodes of Ranma 1/2 are gold. |
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No, not really. Based on the leak, it seems like there won't be any filler episodes in the Remake as it seems to have covered 20 episodes of the original anime in 12 episodes and I couldn’t be happier about it. |
| I don't think I will watch the whole thing. It's not as funny as the manga. |
| その目だれの目？ |
| i might try watching the first episode first |
| Hmmm I saw a few glimpes of the OG as a kid but it never really stuck to be honest as I wasn't a fan of romcoms back then, now as an adult the style looks a lot like Inuyasha, and behold I looked it up, it's indeed from the same mangaka. lol The OG churned out 161 eps in just 3 years?! That's insane man. I read there is a lot of filler in that tho. Guess I'll be picking this remake up for the laughs. |
| Terrible remake, removed all the ecchi. |
| I dont care if they censor it or butcher the series. i watched it as a kid in 1990 and it was my first anime ever. nostalgia alone is more than enough to justify this remake. its a pretty special anime for me and watching it more than 30 years later is a dream ( i know i can watch the OG but i dont have CRT anymore so i dont enjoy watching 480p shows in my 4k TV... its just me.) |
| Remains to be seen what I think of it. If we get an uncensored Bluray release like the manga and original anime, then I might be pretty pleased with it. But if it stays censored then it's just garbage and won't be worth buying/subscribing to Neflix for. |
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@Pit93 If the deciding factor between being "pretty pleased" with something vs. thinking it's "just garbage" is whether or not you get to see a 16-year-old's tits, you probably aren't the intended audience anyway
| @DecayToDeath The deciding factor is getting an adaptation that's faithful to one of my favourite series since childhood and censorship of any form ruins that. I've bought the manga series 2 times (2 different translations) and all of the anime on DVD (unfortunately no BD-release), that's how much I've enjoyed it. But yes, if it's censored I might not be the target audience of the studio and about that I will complain as well as about their shitty work. |
| After watching an episode I do like it, but that may be since I just really like the ranma series in general. Hope it can go on to a complete adaptation this time. |
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@Pit93 It's already demonstrated in numerous other regards that it's more faithful to the manga than the original series is. Again, if you look at any given piece of art as "garbage" regardless of its merits, even if it's overall more accurate to the source material than the previous iteration, exclusively because there aren't visible nipples anymore, then you're clearly more concerned with seeing cartoon titties on a character half your age than you are the show itself. Watch some hentai or something if that's the only reason you're here!
| @DecayToDeath I look at its merits however its merits are overshadowed by the censorship. Ranma is no exception to this. Again, it's not specifically about nipples. They could have removed Happosai as well (who I absolutely hate) and I would have been against it. You can keep misconstruing what I say as much as you want, I've been clear that the censorship is my big issue and that "nipples are not the only reason I'm here", although you just ignored that. Censorship feels extremely patronizing and I don't need that when watching/reading/playing something I'm very invested in. |
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