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Aug 14, 2024 6:57 AM
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It's another one of those 'battle' based episode although this one seems to have more importance given the location.

Also, starting to take Cefiro more seriously in this show now. I wish I cared more about her character earlier but felt like she was overshadowed often. Regardless, seems they are moving ahead with the ongoing plan by Ike. He's played his leadership role well.
Stark700Aug 14, 2024 7:24 AM
Aug 14, 2024 7:25 AM
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The war pressures on at the frontlines of Ivalias, though I'd swear hearing the lead wolf Beio having HeroAca's Bakugo's VA of all people, plus TsudaKen for obvious reasons. But it's obviously clear that having Beio last long on battle is not a good strategy, which is where the other demon generals like orc Gamos come in to fill that gap by shifts, even having to use Florentina's alchemy if ever possible as a stopgap measure to kill as minimal beings as possible. Ike clearly has a plan against the prideful humans, most especially against their general, to hold out and wait until he decides to act, that the demons give Ike full reign of the ongoing battle.

As to Cefiro, Ike positions her differently for a sneak attack against human forces in the forest, and the stint to rile the human general works to boost remaining morale, but also in anticipation of their imminent deaths. He is always one step ahead of the humans, which also show the frailty of the general being backstabbed by the dwarves that he chased out, despite Ike stopping Gunther before a death is registered, resulting in humans retreating from Ivalias. The resulting outcome is the fellow demons being enamored at Ike's strategy, whilst Cefiro deals with the hero, who gets to live another day with the retreat.

A win for Ike, this war should bring more credibility to his name.
Aug 14, 2024 7:36 AM
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only show this season i'm considering dropping... hopefully i can make it through another four episodes

plus the only character i care about is the demon girl with the wings
Aug 14, 2024 7:46 AM
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Dang the lack of animation is beginning to annoy me...
Aug 14, 2024 8:14 AM
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Aside from the attack shifts, formations, and treatment of civilians, this is loaded with all modern war tactics and attitude towards war that is responsible for the west not having a real win since WWII. The Dwarf was right. Ike is a dolt. That release was unforgivable. The leader is the one person you NEVER spare. It is naive to the nth degree to let him loose. The US is only so tight with Japan today because of the devastating force we used. If we hadn't our relations with them would be like it is in the Middle East today. War is ugly. You can't clean it up beyond preventing things that cause unnecessary and extended suffering like chemicals, bioweapons, and torture without losing.
Aug 14, 2024 8:14 AM
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Aside from the attack shifts, formations, and treatment of civilians, this is loaded with all modern war tactics and attitude towards war that is responsible for the west not having a real win since WWII. The Dwarf was right. Ike is a dolt. That release was unforgivable. The leader is the one person you NEVER spare. It is naive to the nth degree to let him loose. The US is only so tight with Japan today because of the devastating force we used. If we hadn't our relations with them would be like it is in the Middle East today. War is ugly. You can't clean it up beyond preventing things that cause unnecessary and extended suffering like chemicals, bioweapons, and torture without losing.
Aug 14, 2024 8:20 AM
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Even with the most pacifist strategy there are still a lot of deaths, it's the reality of war.
Aug 14, 2024 8:39 AM
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What was that about in the Ending that Cefiro Stared at that red horse guy for?
Aug 14, 2024 9:11 AM
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Well that was underwhelming and I wasn't even expecting anything. Anyway not that I'm here for the battles but still. That bit with Cefiro and the enemy was very weird? Tf was that?
Aug 14, 2024 9:16 AM

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What was that about in the Ending that Cefiro Stared at that red horse guy for?
@Flynn_bridge Ye that felt super weird. Is that gonna be Cefiro's love interest or something cause I sure hope not as this would come out of nowhere and it was implied she likes Ike as well. Claiming him for her and saying stuff like won't hand over him.
Aug 14, 2024 10:13 AM
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I wasn't expecting the next Helm's Deep or anything, but I was at least hoping for more than a paper puppet show. Everything about this 'battle' was nonsensical, disjointed, and a just plain mess. I can only hope that there isn't another major 'battle' in store for the season cuz they sure don't have the budget and/or the direction to make one interesting.
Aug 14, 2024 11:03 AM
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There he goes, taking off his mask while on display at the top of the wall... If they want us to see his expression, just phase it out or something, or have him do it somewhere else.
Aug 14, 2024 11:03 AM
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Cool battle, and enjoyed seeing all the different waves in the plan.

It was pretty funny though seeing how loads of troops somehow managed to run into that gigantic ravine that was slowly appeared, and that looked very easily to avoid 😂
Aug 14, 2024 12:30 PM
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Ike-sama finally won. He managed to apply the battle plans together with his trustful comrades and I am glad that Ike-sama chose to let the human captain alive and not kill him. If it was not for him, that captain would have been killed by King of Dwarves. That proves to us Ike still has a human heart.

Cefiro is happy that she can trust Ike and she knows he is the one to take the best decisions. Ivalias might be a peaceful town in the end.
Aug 14, 2024 12:48 PM

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As much as Ike's strategy of keeping his forces fresh while the enemy wears down is sound, the explanation is weak because there are points left unexplained, such as how they neutralized the mages. The lack of animation didn’t help either—the battle looked like dolls with little mobility. To top it off, what the dwarf said was true: an enemy you forgive can cause more harm later.

The scene with Cefiro and the red knight was a bit strange, and I imagine he's the hero. I just hope he doesn't become a romantic interest. Anyway, they won the war.
Aug 14, 2024 12:52 PM

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Well that was underwhelming and I wasn't even expecting anything. Anyway not that I'm here for the battles but still. That bit with Cefiro and the enemy was very weird? Tf was that?
@MegamiRem Same here. Started off pretty good but feels like there's a lack of substance for what it seems like the show is trying to be.
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Aug 14, 2024 1:20 PM

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The whole tactical aspect of the episode was cool and all but I’m sorry releasing the enemy commander after seeing the lows he’ll go to to defeat the demons is stupid. The guy was willing to kill his own men to take the demons down and you think he won’t be back with some more dastardly shit? Ike is a good guy, but there’s a difference between being good and dumb.

On top of that the animation was awful in this episode. Looked like a power point at times which sucks because the Yamamoto OST slapped as usual. Sigh, at least the demons won the battle and for now at least have pushed the humans back. And ideally the rank and file human soldiers will at least see that the demons aren’t pure evil even if they’re pos commander still thinks they are.

Also, Is that human dude going to be Cefiro’s love interest? That was the most awkward stare down ever lmao.
Aug 14, 2024 2:41 PM

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Think Ike did a little more terrain damage then he desired.
Cefiro's full-course meal from that hottie has been cancelled.

Aug 14, 2024 5:48 PM

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I suppose if you are still here after 8 eps you're a connoisseur, a real avid enjoyer of seasonal trash, hats off. I'm on the other side, the camp of people who are in too deep, those who was like let me just give it one more eps maybe it'll get good and now contemplating dropping the whole thing and wondering if its too late. Welp I suppose 8 eps of this is punishment enough, hell I'd even consider forgiving Adolf half his crimes against humanity for making it past eps 3, I'm glad I'm at least self respecting enough to have the courage to drop this anime at this point, and to the valorous connoisseurs again hats off your contributions to voluntary brain root will not be forgotten.

Aug 14, 2024 8:40 PM
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What was that about in the Ending that Cefiro Stared at that red horse guy for?
@Flynn_bridge That was probably the animators rubbing in that they didn't send him to the afterlife like they were supposed to.
Aug 15, 2024 3:22 AM
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EcchiGodMamster said:
only show this season i'm considering dropping... hopefully i can make it through another four episodes

plus the only character i care about is the demon girl with the wings

If the only char you care about is the fcking Succubus then stop cobsidering and drop it allready ffs xD What does she have at all...and don't get the fanservice into here xD
Aug 15, 2024 9:50 AM
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EcchiGodMamster said:
only show this season i'm considering dropping... hopefully i can make it through another four episodes

plus the only character i care about is the demon girl with the wings

If the only char you care about is the fcking Succubus then stop cobsidering and drop it allready ffs xD What does she have at all...and don't get the fanservice into here xD
@NonSenseWILH

sometimes one character like that is all it takes lol
Aug 15, 2024 8:12 PM

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Yeah the battle was underwhelming but regardless Ike's plan was a success and I thought it was interesting how he had the different groups alternate/rotate so that one specific group wouldn't get tired. On that note I think he should've had the flying mobs take out the catapults sooner but he probably had to deal with their mages first.

Regarding Cefiro, I think she had that stare down with the hero guy because she wanted to "consume" him (like killing him and taking his soul) but the retreat order saved him.
Aug 18, 2024 6:17 PM
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This has been the most boring battle that I have seen in a long time
Aug 18, 2024 9:25 PM

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I've come too far to drop this.....
Aug 28, 2024 8:28 AM
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this ep is giving me overload vibes but atleast the story is kinda good and this ep is engaging sooo over-all average ep...
Sep 1, 2024 12:36 AM

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No real gimmick to this battle. Just basic strategy.....kinda boring. I felt no stakes in it.
Sep 9, 2024 3:24 AM

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Yeah this alliance general was so unserious. Dude was legit sipping tea as his men were dying lol.

At least Ike has his little harem now, with Jiron being the best one in it tbh.


Oct 17, 2024 3:47 AM
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The Dwarf King finally had revenge on that coward Noble General!
Dec 9, 2024 1:50 AM
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Another fine episode.
Dec 19, 2024 4:01 PM

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Ike had the perfect game plan to win that battle.
I would like to see Cefiro face off against the important looking soldier at some point, she was interested in him either way.

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Jan 10, 11:29 AM
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=))))

So, did I understand corectly??

The humans are acting like demons

The demons are behaving like humans

MC dosen't want to cause mass murder, even with the enemy, so Cefiro, was send to delay the reverse... because you know, she could easily kill most of thoes enemy troops = saving tons of their own lives.

Or send Cefiro to destroy all the catapules and similar = less human death, most likely no allie death. And then send Cefiro to delay the reverve

Or send the flying army to attack before the catapuls and smilar mass murder their own trools

Or, whatever cause the groud to break apart, to happen way sooner, exactly because their own allies where fighing inside and near the castle = that rift serve as a perfect wall against enemy, especially after no more catapuls

And, the best of the best: let the blonde scumbag to retreat alive=)))))) WTF????? Did MC never hear about capturing enemy comanders? That would have been more then enough for that scumbag to give the retreat order = enemy army bye bye, = ensure that the scumbag dosen't do anything bad later = mind reading him for strategies

Ahhhh, speaking of strategies. Did you know, as impressive as 12k is, they ALLL need food. Aka, all MC needed to do is find some soldier who know where the food is/get transported, mind read to get the info, and hickjack as much food as they can while destroying the rest = 12k of hungry and weakened soldier=))))

Haven's sake, this show is a comedy=)))) Most of the people in this show are so stupid, that MC look like he is smart=)))))) When all he does is killing his own units to ensure the enemy is not harmed, and of course, ansuring that scumbag are not harmed by people who want justice for what happend to them

This show just show how being a naive, save everyone, fake pro life, end up just helping scumbags while harming good people (regadless of species) in the process. Aka he is taking advantage to other's good will to ensure that scumbags aren't harmed because you know, war, tons of live that where take for scumbags will, let me not even start with slave and similar.

But hey, it's not like MC could not just add a legion, if not more, of skeleton under the ground, to pop up and further disrupt the enemy, while the flying units destroy the catapul, mostly even the mage units, while the soldier are hungry due to lack of food, and MC + Cefiro adding tons of magic attacks to ensure the enemy can't act

But hey, at least MC's trool did not needed to kill troops inside of forest, via guns and being hidden away.... oh yes, i fogot, because MC want to prevent the enemy troops from losing their life, he prefers to sacrifice his own troops life via a direct confrontation

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